You are welcome👍 Awesome man Im glad this video helped you out👍 Thank you for sharing your experience with us. If possible could you share your modding pics on twitter or instagram? If not no worries. I hope to make some more videos showing how to do the same mod in different ways. Did you do the no drill method or make it look cleaner with rca outs?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I might post some pics on twitter later. I was considering using RCA jacks but decided to just hardwire composite cables. My cables were thin enough to fit between the housing and the 'tv game' switch. So no need to drill holes.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I should also mention that at first the video had a lot of jailbars. This was greatly reduced by adding 2 caps on the bottom of the board

@@mrmii6596 Hey, realise it's been a while but have done the same as you (hardwire etc) remember whereabouts you put those caps?

@@DABYXman Hi, not sure anymore where those caps were, no, it's been a while, haha. I do remember reading about adding those caps on a different site or forum. Plenty of famicom mod guides show those caps to reduce jailbars.

Thank you🙏🙏🙏

Im glad you enjoyed it and even better you were able to successfully able to do it.

That is great man! Glad to hear this tutorial helped you out. Sounds like you made it work for what you had on hand. You are welcome. What game are you gonna play first?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Mario 3. 😂 Then I have a bunch of games I've never knew existed. DBZ and sailor moon games should be interesting . Pretty cool to play finally. Been waiting a long while to get a Famicom. Thanks again for all you vids. Appreciate them a lot

Daniel Im glad this tutorial was able to help you out. Thanks for watching. If you finish your mod an want to share please tag me in twitter or instagram. I love seeing other folks results. Good luck man.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I have bought all the necesary items, but before I start modding I have a question if thats ok. I've got the same TRRS jack that you used in the video and want to double check so I dont screw it up. At 3:10 the Audio out pins are marked with two red circles, the longest pin at the top and the one closest to the camera. The pin for Video out marked with a yellow circle is in the back. But at 3:48 it seems to be the other way around, the yellow cable (video) is connected to the pin that was marked as Audio out and vice versa. So my question is if it matters how the cables are connected to the jack?

Thanks for the kind words my man. Its is not too difficult even if you are inexperienced at soldiering. Let me know how it goes for you. What game are you gonna play first?

I've had Final Fantasy 1/2/3 and Metal Gear but mainly I have some random clone multi carts, I've never been able to see what's on them so will be interesting. Gotta find my soldering iron first though.

@@ryoma0045 Nice choices I also love the old TMNT carts mostly 2 and 3. Hope you find your soldiering iron👍

Wow, thanks! I'm glad it helped you out

Glad i could be of some help sharpshark👍 love to see your finished work share it with me on social media if possible. Good luck man.

Im glad it worked out well for you. Isnt it funny how things can get forgotten about? Glad you are pleased with the results.

Thanks. I'm glad there are others out there who agree with me and are unsure to add a jack or leave it as is. This way we can keep the ancient rf intact. In Japan often junk just means untested. A lot of times they just don't have the time or care to test it.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB The fact that both outputs still work is pretty amazing to me, I’m glad you were able to figure that out. Many a great deal, just because a Japanese person won’t be bothered to plug something in. 😂 I’m at about a 95% “completely fine” rate for “junk” items so far.

Yes same here I've come across a few that didn't work but were repairable

That is a big compliment thanks. I agree this is the easiest method ive found thus far. Lifting pins is no fun. Happy modding man👍

That is awesome I hope the mod goes smoothly for you.

Glad I could help! It could be the value of the capacitor you used causing the darker image too. But glad to hear things worked out for you.

could be the value of the resistor

Im glad I could be of some help to you. I wish you luck in your AV Famicom mod. Share your results when you finish id love to see how it turns out.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB hello, today i received my console and unfortunately my motherboard is different than the one in your video, do you have any suggestions?

Congratulations I'm glad you were able to get it up and running👍👍👍🎮

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Thank you man I´m hyped af. Is it worrying that im not using the ceramic capacitor? could it screw up something? or is that capaacitor more like for filtering noise and stuff so its something that wont damage anything by not beeing there?

Sam Im glad you enjoyed it! Editing that took me quite a bit of time but it was fun to do. I love the look of the original famicom and all its retroness. Do you own one?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB not yet. The system is really quite a novelty because it developed in so many directions. With cartridge and the disc add on, the wired in controllers, and the amazing games that originated for it (i think I'm saying that right) and the length of its dominance. It was the last of its kind in some respects and first of its kind in others.

Kris thank you so much🙏 Yes, thats how it is done a simple continuity test. Share your results with me once you are done👍👍👍

Nes stereo mod? Do you mean suddenly stereo or actual real stereo?

That is a good way to handle it. The snes multiout should be standard on all retro tech would make things a lot easier😉👍👍👍

You are welcome! Glad to hear it! hope you get to enjoy the improvement in picture 👍👍👍 whats your famicom game of choice?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Gun Dec aka Vice: Project Doom.

I'm glad the video helped you out.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Just got the final part installed today, and it works great!

Im glad you found it useful. Hope it helps you complete your famicom mod successfully. Do you have a favorite famicom game?

I'm glad to hear it 😊

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Forgot to ask but is there a way to remove vertical bars on famicom's output because they are pretty noticable.

Thanks for joing me man! Jim is a cool guy indeed. Thats right no drilling. Have you a famicom that has been av modded?

Thomas thanks for letting us know how it went on your version of the board that will be very helpful for thoese that want to try this mod on the HVC-CPU-07 version of the board. Thank you for sharing. 🙏🙏🙏

Thank you infinit Loop!

Glad you like it!

thanks man hope you try it out.

Thank you. Are you a modder? 😀

@@ScruffyLookinRGB yes :) I made AV mod for my Famicom, Atari 2600 Jr., made some AV mods on very crappy video quality NOACs and 1:1 famiclones. Awso Sega MD1 and MD2 over clock and region mods :) and on my first NES I added famicom slot in the bottom on the expention slot place, and on one tiny B/W TV I added NOAC inside :)

@@intel386DX You are super awesome my man that is an impressive list I especially like the nes with famicom slot mod🤯👏

@@ScruffyLookinRGB thanks I will share you some photoset if you wish, when I am at the PC :)

@@ScruffyLookinRGB a bit late but, here are some of my mods :) facebook.com/Retro-World-102895561482822/photos/ bazar.bg/obiava-29205348/nintendo-sega-atari-remontiram-i-modifitsiram

Im glad this helped you out. Whats the first game you will plop in after your mod?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I’m in the middle of Metroid now.

Some times the hum comes from the controller two volume slider. A little ipa to clean the contacts on the pcb board and the 2 prongs on the slider. Or the length of the wires they used on the inside may be too long. But sounds like you have a nice work around. Id love to get my hands on a framemister how do you like it?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB An OSSC is probably a better option now, but when I got the FrameMeister in 2014 it worked great for the most part. Some Genesis games had HDMI handshake issues (due to the Genesis's wonky sync signal I guess). I got a PVM a few years ago so don't use the FM much anymore, unfortunately.

Thanks for the love man👍 Glad you are gonna try it out definitely show me your results. What is the Open Tendo project? Sound creative and intriguing😯

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Welcome my man! 👏🏿 OpenTendo is a completely open source recreation of the front loader NES PCB: github.com/Redherring32/OpenTendo You can get your own newer after market components, and solder it into the board, then add any enhancements onto that as well. It's pretty damn awesome sounding, so I wanna give it a try. 😅

@@RetroSho wow this is very cool is there famicom board as well with fixed jailbar issues, and composite capabilityes? :)

@@RetroSho that sounds cool😯 even has expansion audio capabilities👏If you make this you gotta show me👀Thanks for sharing with us🙏

there are many revisions of the board but nintendo is usually good about labeling things. Also you could google the schematics of your board version that may help.

Glad you like it. And yes the mic will be intact no problem👍👍👍

no try wings my man just simple screws. very convenient. Plans to mod you own?

Not to worry you can still do the mod check out this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r65gl7aQ0tWbZ4k.html

You are almost there just keep trying things out i know you will get it workin soon😁

@@ScruffyLookinRGB i wonder how you know that 😂😂😂😂

Glad you agree with me. Have you done this mod on your famicom?

The older famicom boards are quite noisy. It's tough to get them just right

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I took a second look and the coaxial output image is clear. It's only the mod that has that interference. It may be related to where I attach the 3.5mm to RCA cable into the Jack.

The video signal will still be NTSC, not PAL...

May the force be with you. Let me know how it goes for you.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB ok so I modded the first board and plug it in and all I get for is a gray screen with a black strip moving across it. the mic on controller 2 works and i can hear it from the tv but no video or game audio. I only have one game for it so if my game doesn't work would it be normal to have that screen? Because the nes has a gray screen when it can't read the game so if you turn on a famicon with out a game in it thought AV will you get the same result?

Thank you

The earlier mobo revisions tend to have a much noisier signal. Later revisions have a much clearer signal. The earlier versions need a litte more work to get a clear signal. If you want the best signal the av famicom is the way to go. But if you like the original famicom astetics the later one is easier to mod for av.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Thanks for your reply! Famicom looks like the console from my childhood and AV Famicom is too expensive. By the way, I looked at the auctions and I have another question: if you just buy something that looks normal but has not been tested, what is the likelihood that everything will be fine with it? If there is just a little rust and swollen capacitors, this is also normal) Are there problems there, like with the Super Famicom, when one of the processors may be faulty?

I hope you are able to fix the issues your having👍👍👍

Thanks a lot! Should be easy getting the other bad boy out I suppose. Just get the hot glue out, de-solder those wires and caps and see if I don't wreck it more than it is already! :D @@ScruffyLookinRGB

Thanks. It a budget mod for all the nerfherders out there.

Thanks for the kind words.

When in doubt use a multimeter it is the surest way. Happy modding👍

That is great id love to see how it turns out. As for thin film or metal oxide im not familiar with thoese terms. I usually use any japanese brand capacitor like nichicon. Ill add more cap brands as i remember them. Good luck.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Didn't completely work for me. Any ideas what it could be? I'll check over my soldering. Nice to have sound though, ha. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8CEkrVhv6u1iX0.html

I redid the TRRS and I'm having the same issue. I then reattached the video wire to the resistor and no improvement....in fact, I don't evet get any picture now, whereas before, I got flickers (I havent soldered the TRRS yet though, I was just checking). My resistor is massive compared to yours. Whereas my ceramic c is tiny in comparison. Ha. Could it be my soldering to the video pin? It's not exactly tidy but it's not messy either. It's also seat on it, rather than beside it (and I've used more solder than you did). Can one use an RCA (yellow) cable instead of TRRS for the video? A white or red cable for mono sound (can you duplicate it, like the NES uses? And if I go that way, how would it be grounded? Sorry about all the questions. I think I might be best just buying an already modded one!

Okay, so I re-did most of the soldering, to ensure my work was clean and it turns out, I probably had it correct in the first place! How I solved it/worked that out? I used a different 3.5mm jack to RCA; one from an old camera. When pulling the 3.5mm jack in and out, I noticed sound was on parts I didnt expect. I then remembered I had a similar issue with my Android box where the 3.5mm jack wouldn't display video properly. So instead of using the new, working 3.5mm to RCA I bought for the Android box, I used the camcorder one, which didnt work on Android box and hey presto, I had a beautiful clean picture on my Famicom. This youtube video helped me realise there was a difference in how they're wired, though I don't know how they're actually wired inside! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g69kftZ7qtbZlXU.html I had a slight buzzing sound in the background and realised it was caused by the mic on controller 2 (lots of people experience this). I could set it just above silent and it stops buzzing but moving the TRRS to the other side also helped. So, your mod was brilliant, thanks again and hopefully my comments will help others. I believe I've seen someone else identify this issue too. One thing to note, the size of the capacitor and the resistors. My 220µF is quite large and I believe it's very snug against the bottom of the case....perhaps too snug....? Also, my resistor is huge, so my video is set back a little more than yours. Anyway, I hope this helps somebody and I might do a little video to show what I did and what I used. Thanks again. My first mod and somehow, it was a success!

Okay, this is my 'things I learnt; video and thanks again for posting Scruffy. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7WCdJp9qq3efKM.html

Good luck! I hope you get the sound up and running💪

Got my parts in and installed iv got sound now and better video. Thank you so much. The bigger capacitor does seem to barley hit the bottom case and slightly bulge it when tighted. But I don't think it will be a issue.

Thanks Raph! Always a pleasure retrobright is the way to go if you wanna clean it up. 👍 Famicom has a nice iconic look to it dont you think?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I think it looks way better than the boring grey usa version..

They are definitely two different amimals. Japanese version has a lot more character👍👍👍

Yes unfortunately its a trial and error type of situation. I found a japanese blog that had this method here so i used it and it works great for this particular board revision. Other board revisions may vary unfortunately

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Yah, 1k ohm gave me the best color saturation on LCD TV, but my CRT TV couldn’t detect the signal when using that resistor. I settled on 510ohm resistor as the best value between saturated colors and signal reliability.

That is a darn good question sorry im not quite sure about that

I put all the items I used down in the description even some of the tools. If there is something i missed let me know.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB can you tell us where we can buy the jack male and female please thanks in advance

Yes and yes. I would suggest a no clean flux. Rosin or soldiering past leaves a bit of sticky residu so if you go that route hit it with some ipa to clean up the area.

Glad you enjoyed the video. I was following a Japanese tutorial on line so i couldn't say for certain. Sorry i don't know exactly.

Great job man👍 Jail bars are just a part of life I think some people say there are things you can do to minimalize them but I havent attempted it. Some people no matter how much they try say they cant get rid of them. Sorry couldn't be more help with the jail bars issue. If your on instagram or twitter post a shot of your work and tag me in it love to see how it came out. Oh also jail bars show up differently on different TVs too so try another tv and see if anything changes.

Im famliar with that mod where you lift pin 21 and remove the transistor add resistors etc. I have done this mod both ways and cant tell difference in quality of sound or the picture. Except this way is very easy. That sucks your famicom died maybe the caps went bad. If you get another fami or decide to fix it try this way you wont be disappointed.

I'd say between 220uf an 1000uf. Hope you find the sweet spot.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Thank you so much. I’ll order a couple capacitors and check it out. Another theory I have is that it may be because I am powering my Famicom with a 9v Genesis Adapter rather than the original 10v one. I’ll let you know if I figure it out

If i have the same problem i double and triple check my soldiering points. And if you still get nothing it may need new caps. Also if your board is not the same version as the one here it may not work the same way. Good luck

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Thank you for the reply, i really apreciate it. I allready triple checked my soldering, and i checked and its the same version as the one you did in the video. By recaping you mean change all the original capacitors? Or do you know wich caps could be responsible for sound and color. Im very happy allready though, it sure would be amazing to get color and sound out of this almost 40 year old console but even if i cant get it any better than this its ok still. So no matter what, i really apreciate your video and still taking the time to respond after so long of posting it. Thanks alot my friend.

If it's the older revision, it won't be the same as this one. But the good news is it easy to swap out the power board for a new one with composit video. Rgr makes a good one.

Hello Mathieu. I have a confession to make Im no electronics expert my self. I like to tinker and just try things out to see if they work. I found this mod by a Japanese modder and have been able to duplicate it multiple times on my own as for how and why it works sorry I dont have any details in that area. sorry i couldnt be of more help man. If i find the site where I originally found this mod i will share the link but i still have yet to rediscover where it was that I found it. Cheers!

I did put all that info in my parts list in the description did you miss it?

It very well could be I did this mod a while ago and havent bought new ceramic caps in quite some time i think the mod may even work with out the ceramic cap to be honest. Its worth a try anyways.

Ashen thank you. Yes you can certainly do this with a trs jack. 👍

Does the one that gets a pink screen work in rf?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB With the rf cable actually i only get a blue screen. No sound Only a blue Screen.

25V means the cap can take in more voltage than 16v⚡️rule of thumb is it's OK to replace a cap with a higher voltage rating never the opposite 😉

It may be the 3.5 jack and cable don't match try hooking up the red and white to the video in on TV not all cables are hooked up the same. To be sure you need to test from the mobo to the end of the cables to know for sure.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Already solved it thanks! Switching matching colors worked for me. Sadly, i can confirm I got vertical stripes on the screen, and I can't use my Famicom with RF cable... Strange since the mod looks almost the same as yours. Thanks anyway!

I know they can be av modded just not sure if it can be done using this method.

A quick Google search should pull one up quickly

You most definitely could 👍🏻✨️✨️✨️

Glad to hear your mod was successful 👌 congratulations 🎊 unfortunately i have never fussed with trying to get rid of jail bars maybe i will in the near future.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB does your have it? Yeah, most of the games I have don’t really bother me, except on super Mario and super Mario land 2

Sorry to hear that. I usually double check all my soldier joints. And usually I find things work out good luck

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I got it working, my resistor and ceramic capacitor look different than yours, they're smaller. The colours on mine are a different contrast. Any ideas?

I believe if you are in the usa and you are using the famicom stock rf output you need to tune your TV to channel 95 or 96.

No, you gotta have the right value of microfarads

Will ask for them to change up the order! Thanks

@@ScruffyLookinRGB What is the thinking of putting a 220uf in series with a 1uf, all that does is make a 0.995uf capacitor.

Yeah, the series capacitors confuse me too, from my understanding the 220uF capacitor doesn't do anything here?

It might be the soldering joints or wire length. The longer the wire the more chance for interferience. Also the player two controler can cause an echo if its not cleaned or the volume slider is slightly turned on. But if its none of those things it could just be the console has a bit of noise. Ill check a few of my modded ones at home and see if i get any noise. And good work on your successful mod!

Thank you! Yea every one has their own way of how they want to finish it it off. I have done quite a few of these so I wanted to show people you can keep the original hardware intact with out having to drill holes or mess with the original functionality of the RF output. Maybe Ill do another one where I switch things up a bit. Stay tuned for that one.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Cool!... Man, could you do a permanent AV mod (trrs 3.5 jack mount on the RF slot) on my famicom if i send it to you?.

@@elronaldese depending on where you are in the world that may or may not be possible due to the current world situation. Send me an email to scruffylookinrgb@gmail.com so we can exchange more detailed information.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Cool bro, I just sent you one. Hope didnt fall in spam. Thanx!

@@elronaldese No worries👍

Wow you have some very sought after games my man. Interesting I have never heard of anyone loosing their expansion sound after doing a AV mod like this. I was also thinking about this the other day. My thinking is that the expansion sound is actually on the disc system and not the white and red famicom. I wonder if anyone else out there has similar issue?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB there are a handful of games that have extended audio from cartridge hardware that don't show up when piping audio out of the CPU pins or pin 45 so I was told to cut those connections and pipe it out of pin 46 on the cartridge connector because that signal is already amplified and it will modulate through the speaker as is

@@MysteryManBob after cutting the trace you still get the normal audio? But not the expansion audio? I just picked up the cart of Akumajyo densetsu. Im now curious to test the sound with an un-modded famicom vs the one i modded here to see if there is a difference in sound as you mentioned. Thanks for bringing this to my attention i will research it further and ask around.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=14571.0 this sheds some light on the audio mixing situation. I wish there was a diagram to go with it but I think it's pretty straight forward

I have done the pin lifting method before too. But for that revision i haven't tried it this way. In theory it should work. I'll have to try it out.

Just an update. I tried this method and confirmed it also worked with the HVC-CPU-07 model.

50v should be plenty.

I don't think that would be the reason. Usually it's a connection issue. I'd double check all your soldier joints.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB seems like my Retrotink 5X was the reason i wasnt getting a picture, directly into my TV tho gives bad waving lines and a loud buzz when the video signal is connected, all my solder joints are definitely good and i'm using the same components listed in the description, its so confusing :S

yo! just an update, got it all working, needed to ground the video connection seperately, must've been something off with my TRRS jack cause for some reason it only grounded the audio, the picture being all wavy and buzzing caused the retrotink to not accept the input aswell, so as soon as i got that fixed the RT5x was working too and looked very good for Composite, thanks for the vid!

Im not sure 😕 you could try it. Id be curious to know how or if it will work with out the ceramic capacitor all together 🤔

I'm not familiar with atari modding so I can't say for sure.

Glad to hear you got it working. some times you can change the value of the cap it may give you a brighter image.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Ohh okay, thank you! Can I just remove the cap and connect the video out pin directly to the TV?

Take a close look at the comments here there is someone who has been able to do it but said the picture was a little too saturated. He said he had better luck with the pin 21 method.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB thanks for the response... The pin 21 I think its too intrusive... But it's OK!

Thank you Tai. Yes it is that simple. This is the board version of the famicom i come accross most often. Unfortunately i have not tried this on any another board versions. But i do think it is possible. You would need to google the schematics to find out where the audio, video and ground can be tapped into. They should be fairly close to the ones in this video. Sorry there is no certain way to tell what board unless you open it up. One thing I might add is if you look into the cartridge slot and see metal around the blue plastic of the slot you have a good chance of getting the same board version as in this video. If it is just the blue plastic with out the surrounding metal than its a different version. I hope you find the one you want. Oh and yes you can do this with regular av cables just getting them to fit through the same controller port might take some ingenuity. Good hunting my friend👍

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Thank you! I'm hoping it works, Famicoms are fairly well-known for hating British televisions, and I maaaaaay have ordered one without the RF cable to keep shipping weight down. If all else fails I'm pretty sure some people just sell motherboards for the console so that's always a backup. Thanks for the tutorial, it's really cool!

@@ScruffyLookinRGB Hang on, final question, just to double-check I assume I don't need to ground it if I just wire straight into the audio and video without using the jack? Or should I ground one of the audio channels? Thanks again, I haven't seen this mod anywhere else so don't know who else to ask lol

@@Victor-bm4sl yes you should definitely connect it to ground on the board. I hope your mod goes well. Let me know if you have any questions.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB thank you! I hope it works, I'm not sure which board revision I've got as it hasn't arrived yet, but I reeeeeeally hope it's the GPM-02 as that would make it so much easier. Really glad I found this mod when I did!

This mod is only for this revision of the motherboard if you have the older mobo the process is a little different.

I've never tried it but it certainly should.

Ok amigo no va quedar otra que probar con el mío 😅 es que e visto un video donde realizan este mod a un top loader nes pero no especifica o más bien no se alcanza a ver las equivalencias de capacitores la verdad tú lo aces ver muy fácil muy buen video gracias por compartir tus conocimientos 👍

You could try and see what happens. I don't think it would hurt anything but I'm no professional.

@@ScruffyLookinRGB i put another comment but it seems yt deleted it because it has a link i was asking if this trrs port good or not but it seems i cant put a link or else yt delete it

I've never tried but it should

That is a good question. One I don't know actually. It might set the radio frequency for rf out but that is a guess

@@ScruffyLookinRGB I know you can adjust these to work on us channel 3 but I don't know how to do it

Same place as the one i soldier to in the video there are more places on the board for ground too just look for a spot that says GND for ground.

So connect ground to both video and audio?

I understand your frustration. The one reason I think why the controllers are so short is that Japanese living rooms are very small and every one sits closer to the TV than in a western home. One thing i do like about the famicom is how the controllers have their own holder what do you think?

@@ScruffyLookinRGB well on paper it sounds cool those controller holders,hack even the retron 5 has a controller holder among other (old) consoles, but i sometimes think that they could,ve saved that extra plastic and just make those consoles just smaller instead.

You will have to follow a different process.

I've had issues with video or audio not coming through, but it always comes down to a poor connection on my soldiering.

@ScruffyLookinRGB seems like I needed a bigger ground wire than I was using. All set, thanks! I have another revision I'm trying but getting no luck. Not enough ground like the other but no matter where I ground it I'm having the same issue. Might have to do the full conversion mod on that one.