Nintendo wasn't "pulling the same stunt" by rereleasing older games on the FDS. The point was the FDS releases were a fraction of the cost of buying the same game on cartridge.

I wouldn't say it was a mistake. It was a moderate success in Japan. People still played their famicoms long into the late 90s. And some convenience stores still had the kiosks in the early 2000s because customers were still using them. Sure it was flakey and had its issues but it saved Nintendo and gamers money.

I remember my friend had a similar set up for his SNES. I wasn't too keen on the piracy scene in middle school, but his dad had gotten an add-on for his SNES that allowed him to play bootleg floppys of SNES games.

Fun fact:During one of the Peach segments in Paper Mario:The Thousand Year Door, you need to find a disk and upload it on Grodus computer for TEC. The disk is a Famicom Disk system floppy, and what you see on the screen is a video of Mario and Luigi fighting that plays if you have no disk in the FDS

Legware fetish alert, lady decade knows her audience.

I wouldn't call the FDS a big mistake. Hindsight is always 20/20 and the FDS served an important short term purpose for Nintendo. It allowed games to increase in size until the time when the various mapper chips became easy to integrate into cartridges. The FDS was always meant to be a low cost add-on and not a long term solution. Nintendo had to (temporarily) throw their full support to it in Japan in order to get anyone to purchase it in the first place. While the US NES initially had the expansion port on the underside of it, later revisions of the console removed it entirely since shortly after the FDS was released in Japan it was clear that integrated mapper chips were the way to go for the US. Especially since by late 86 Nintendo was working hard to distance the NES from looking like it had anything to do with a computer as in the US most home computer used floppy disks.

Maybe the history of the FDS explains why Nintendo decided to stick with cartridges for the N64

If the accent and love of retro gaming wasn't enough to have me smitten (it was), then the disk-insertion-with-big-toe maneuver certainly pushed me over the edge...

Obviously, this video was not made by someone who was living in Japan when the Disk system came out. i got it shortly after its release and at that time, what i liked about it was that game data can be saved. one disk cost about 3500 yen which was like 1500 yen cheaper than famicom cartridges and kakikae only cost 500 yen per game. when you were a kid, and having not much money, it was a great way to play new games.the disks are pretty good quality as well.

I work with a guy who had a disk system when he was a kid. He said he and his friends loved it when they were kids.

I can't believe you used your foot to push the disk in lol 😆

11:10 Ghosts n' Goblins was never released for the Disk System. But its release is often cited in discussions about the Disk System losing the advantage of more storage capacity for games. In theory Nintendo could have released an updated "RAM Cartridge" as it's often called which could have improved the capabilities of the Disk System but they were always going to be stuck with the same disks which were vulnerable to copying and only held roughly 128Kb per disk. Many later releases would have required 2 disks, Kirby's Adventure is one of the largest games and would have required 6 disks.

Considering that it was already extremely difficult to get an NES to play a single game cartridge without you having to blow on it for an hour, inserting it, taking it out, blowing on it some more and praying it that it actually would work when you put it back in. Nintendo would have caused riots in the streets of America trying to sell an additional add-on for the NES that suffered from the same dust problems that already plagued the NES console and game cartridges.

I appreciate that it opened up the ability for homebrew/unlicensed titles.

Loving the detail you go into in your videos!! I have been binging. 🙂

Two fun facts about the FDS: Fun Fact #1, Side A of a disk contains more than just the title screen. The entire game program is actually on Side A. Side B contains data that needs to be loaded in and out. Fun Fact #2: Every time a FDS game loads anything, the entire disk is read.

The fds was no mistake.... It had some pretty good games and even games we know in the west but with stuff we in the west didn't have on the same games.....like expansion audio. And as you saod yourself.....the thing was a hit in japan!

link was the first cart I had with a battery and internal save on it, instead of absurd password keys. loved Link

Your videos are enjoyable and quite relaxing. Subscribed!

So PS5 supposedly exist but the closest that I've come to one was to see an empty box on display in a used game store. I do nor have any concrete evidence to back up the consoles existence. It's funny since the PS5 was released I've found more Atari Jaguars in stores than PS5s.

Your videos are nicely put together, I enjoy watching! Cheers

I could watch Lady Decade videos all day

12:24 - genius

Around 2007 I visited the Philippines for a few months to visit my brother in the Peace Corps. The thrift stores there were stacked high with FDS's and I still regret not buying one (or a dozen).

I love the FDS! It's really fun to play games on floppy disks for some reason. But yeah it's not great hardware, I've had 3 with various problems. I've always wanted. Sharp Twin Famicom. Maybe we'll see a Lady Decade video on that weird console

I could listen to you banter for ages. Love this series

Very interesting Lady Decade! Appreciate you sharing this!

I do really enjoy these videos!

From what I understand, this drive wasn't as bad as this video insinuates it is. Sure, the floppy disk drive wasn't going to last as long as soon as storage on cartridges improved in size and price. But it was a decent stopgap in my opinion, not to mention that unlike CDs it was already a proven technology

Great video thank you!!

growing to be my fave youtuber ,ima catch up on other platforms aswell ,bravo !!

It still had some of the best ports of games. Some very enhanced graphically and a save feature that worked instead of passwords or the Zelda cartridge nightmares.

I really enjoy your work. I fist saw you in the recommended video in one of your husband's videos. You're both great in your own right.

Wait, Lady Decade - the Floppy Drive’s belt (that spun the read head) doesn’t lend itself to making the floppy discs being ‘bad’ quality. The rubber belt inside the Disk Drive was poor quality. Irregardless, the rubber band really isn’t difficult to replace. With that said, the rubber band was the Disk Drive’s achilles’ heel. Anyway, I just wanted to mention this. It’s your opinion that the Disk Drive itself (and its floppy disc games) are ‘bad’ quality. I’m a big fan of your channel and content. I just wanted you to know, that I’m NOT a troll looking to stir the pot. I don’t agree that the Famicom’s Disk Drive attachment was one of Nintendo’s bad ideas. You said it yourself in your video - there was a chip shortage back then, and the only way Nintendo could deliver games to their consumers, was by Floppy discs. Some may argue that the Floppy Drive attachment wasn’t the best choice, but given the circumstances they faced - it saved the Famicom and it allowed Nintendo and its 3rd party developers to deliver the games their fans craved.

def not a mistake in fact nintendo readily used the system for a long time. many kids in japan loved it due to the fact you could rewrite games cheaper and in a culture where minimalism is big this was a welcome edition

I feel like mid-gen console upgrade (aka pro versions) are the modern version of addons.

It may have been a mistake for Nintendo but I was able to try so many obscure games thanks to the Disk System. The easy accessibility, not to mention the incredibly low price of each game let me go into a game shop and come home with maybe 8-10 titles to play at home. Sure there were some stinkers but that was where I first played Zelda 1, Zelda 2, Metroid and Simon's Quest.

Youre channel is very good

8:36 Don't let Tarantino see this .. erm.. foot'age 😅

hello! Nice video

I feel love in your words to the old school gaming

It would be great if you did a video about the infamous ill fated Sega Genesis Virtual Reality.

This gal doesn't look old enough to make such a video when this Era of gaming was outside of her timeline.

I don't think it was a big mistake: look at the games we got that initially made their debut in Japan on this: Zelda Legend (The Legend of Zelda) Metroid Light Myth: Palutena's Mirror (Kid Icarus) Super Mario Bros. 2 (The Lost Levels) Devil's Castle Dracula (Castlevania) Link's Adventure (Zelda II: The Adventure of Link) Dream Factory: Heartbeat Panic (formed the basis for our Super Mario Bros. 2 after Nintendo of America deemed that the similarly-titled game we first got years later as Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels within Super Mario All-Stars was too difficult yet also too similar to the first game) Dracula II: The Accursed Seal (Castlevania II: Simon's Quest) Were it not for the Famicom Disk System, the American NES versions of these games would never have existed. However, the few mistakes I can think of with the FDS was with the belt drive on the system itself, which was prone to wear after some years of use, and the disks themselves, since Nintendo was concerned about piracy (especially here in the US where some unlicensed games were released for the NES). Also, the long loading times on some FDS titles were a big turn-off for some, especially on the long RPG-themed games like Kid Icarus and Dracula II, where you had to flip the disk over (from Side A to Side B and back) at times to continue the game.

I think your videos are getting better, as documentaries.

Wish you 1 million subscribers soon

The FDS was indeed doomed for a number of reasons. 1) As you mentioned, they choose the Mitsumi's QuickDisk format instead Sony's 3.5" floppy disks. But this means only 112KB of space instead of 720KB for DD disks. This was what caused them to be surpassed by the maskROMs one or two years later. The 3.5" floppy disks would have taken much longer, and using 2 or 3 floppy disks would multiply that capacity for a much lower cost than maskROMs. 2) Coupled with the FDS, the Famicom came dangerously close to the price of the cheaper MSX2 models, that were way more capable machines which could be used for much more than just gaming

that bit at 12:22 really threw me. lol

I have a question for anyone who knows; exactly _how_ do the mapper chips work? Is the concept similar to bank switching on Atari 2600 game cartridges?

Makes you wonder what took nintendo ao long to use off the shelf formats like cd and dvd etc until the wii i mean it cost them more and didnt stop piracy.

It makes me sad something so beautiful could be called a mistake 💔

Yeah I know, but I still want to watch until the end… weird. Keep up the work lass and stay safe!

Hi Lady D!

Fantastic once again dear lady what a brilliant history on nintendo's first big mistake 🤩🤩🤩

Very interesting video

Ironically? If the nintendo had simply gone all in and made a keyboard addon the NES disk system could have served it well. Then again by the time the NES hit stateside the 16 bit personal computers were about to hit so it would have been anemic compared to its competitors in that area. Still. With Nintendo leveraging its then found popularity and a propritary disk system it could have also served as a cheap entry into home computing.

What is the game at 2:41??

Famicon Feet System.

If Nintendo does one thing, besides piss of third parties, it's innovate. Yeah, they have several flops but they also have a bunch of really neat stuff. And sometimes flops can be good. The Wii U kind of paved the way for the Switch. Good episode.

Lol I saw that sneaky Alex Kidd inserted! 🤣

The only mistake I feel was made with the Disk System was not releasing it overseas. Nintendo could have gotten more developers on board due to how cheap it was to make a Disk System game rather than a cartridge based game. Consumers would have been able to get Disk based games for a cheaper price than a regular cartridge based game if Nintendo decided to make the Disk Writer also available in the West. At the same time, this would also cause poorly designed games to make a quick buck to flood the console, thus possibly causing another video game crash, which is probably the reason Nintendo didn't want to bring it overseas.

I find it interesting that Amiga was released before NES (not before Famicom though).

Thanks lady decade i migjt go to twitch goodluck and thanks for the console content

16:11 i enjoyed the video but like...why and how did she put the controllers in the wrong slots and upside down?? or am i the one who is doing it wrong?

Yay!

The Famicom Disk System was popular in Japan due to the floppy disc games being much cheaper than cartridges. Was the Floppy Disk system a smart choice for Nintendo? It really depends on who you speak to. 🤷

Just by the rich sound youu can tell is a famicon disk system. Its sound way better than the regular nes. I believe because it has a extra audio channel.

I think the FDS has gained a bit of a cult following in the past few years. I have the stand alone disk system, and the Sharp Twin. My Sharp Twin is RGB modded, and it is my favorite console that I own. I am pretty sure that the disk media wasn't meant to last for 30+ years, but surprisingly I have had pretty good luck with picking up games. I love hearing all of the various clicks and clanks as I load a disk card into the system, and hearing the expanded audio of Zelda no Densetsu. Sure I could easily emulate it, but it's just not the same. It's like listening to Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl record or MP3. It's funny the "copy protect" that Nintendo tried to implement is printing the word "Nintendo" on the quick disk, as the locking mechanism in the FDS was supposed to "lock" certain letters down. I can't fathom how pirates got around such a copy protect device....lol. The Famicom, and it's disk system peripheral is quirky, cheeky, and fun to collect. The more I learn about it, the more I want to learn about it. I just fear the day when my belt finally snaps and I have to replace it. Fun video, LD!

quick man theme is pretty good

7:11 TMNT manhattan project submarine level music :)

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I like how Alex Kidd stuck his way into the video 2:43 😂

I love the Disk System! First game I played was 3D Hot Rally.

It's crazy cause I just imported an entire Famicom collection through buyee. Sadly I got the second model Famicom, and no Famicom disk system though. This video makes me think that maybe that's no big deal though! 😅

Well Done.

lol. I'd watch out with those feet. Some people are like... a little bit too into that.

How about content about the TurboGrafx 16 and the best game ever Keith Courage!

I have a bunch of disks that sill work... stowed away. I use the FDS Stick if I want to run actual hardware, or my Everdrive too because they are so flemsy, yes I had to replace my zelda twice now. lol. I do really love the music that was added with the disks and wish that was taken advantage of more.

man, i love your hair

32X was great when combined with Sega CD. Night Trap was a good example of this.

You cannot save your position in the game to the game cartridge so you need a disc or something else and some games needed a way to add extension packs to popular games OK.

1:37 I saw that

I wish I had a game collection that big lol.

ahhhh yesss the family computer

AVGN should do this system for an episode.

The disk system was a good idea in theory. But sadly, the manufacturing of the disk system itself had issues. Namely, the drive belts constantly failing.

Interesting that they supported the FDS for so long, but cut off the Wii online services much earlier.

another outstanding video! One of the absolute best channels for History of video games

I don't know, i wouldn't call it a mistake. It was successful in Japan. my cousin in Japan had the famicom twin and everyone was playing it. I saw the disks in the stores and everywhere I went when I visited in 1989.

Best system i ever had was the sega nomad. I could play it on tv, pause it, unplug and play on the go, which i think what every gamer wants to do.

7:56 *BOUJEE* 💅💅💅💅🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ironically, it's not even their worst mistake. When you consider both the famicom carts and the NES carts held less memory than the later versions, it's understandable they used magnetic disks to improve how much could be held at once. Not to mention you could have two games internally due to the disks being double sided. While the Disk System eventually became unneeded, some famciom games successfully got transferred onto the NES. Though if there is one thing the Disk System manages to still do better than the NES, it be the improved sound channels.

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This was actually a huge sucsess in japan. Developers profited more and gamers got the gamws for way way cheaper for exanple legend of zelda being only 20 their on disk and 60 in us on a cart.

Have got the famicom and the disk system think it is good

Bad Title, The Nintndo was the first to make a floppy disk unit as an add-on and was very successful in Japan, that's their territory Domestic and the Japanese play by their rules, Outside of Japan privacy was bad and clones and copyright was broken, heck there were not many if not hacking groups in Japan. Carts were expensive to make even at 64k so why not pass on the cost to the end users, the Disk System was made. 64k each side lots more on both, if the game had a fault just update and write.

I’m sorry… “What a short load of fork!” ??? What exactly does that mean? I’m American. I’m confused.

Nice gams 🥰

Im surprised how cheap they are on ebay right now.

I think it's a cool idea, better than the virtual boy