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【Fandub】Elizabeth's lament about the imposter

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WeebaLu

WeebaLu

Күн бұрын

This is honestly one of my favorite scenes with Elizabeth in recent years with Black Butler! Though this is sort of a preview I guess? Some friends of mine who are Black Butler fans have plans to fully dub the chapter someday but ey ya know here's my part as Elizabeth xD
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@pragnya_mati
@pragnya_mati 4 жыл бұрын
Ya know...deep down I think she fell in love with OUR Ciel, and our Ciel also got feelings for her
@chiaisannoying
@chiaisannoying 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@milkcreamsweetsweetpig1352
@milkcreamsweetsweetpig1352 3 жыл бұрын
Ang update abt this in the manga?
@hajoojaguaus8998
@hajoojaguaus8998 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh I don’t know -
@milk_tea_latte5605
@milk_tea_latte5605 3 жыл бұрын
She did fell in love with our ciel after the time they’ve spent with each other, but she also have feelings for the real ciel as well.So now that the truth is out she basically fell into the crisis of ‘where did it go wrong’ or ‘who do I truely love’ or both
@coolcats4you
@coolcats4you 3 жыл бұрын
@@milkcreamsweetsweetpig1352 only origins about the staff members so far
@crawaii6302
@crawaii6302 4 жыл бұрын
I pity both Lizzy and "fake" Ciel. "Fake" Ciel a little more since he had to carry that burden on his back for many years.
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine that's an awful time to pretend to be your dead brother while everyone says how happy they are that you're the dead brother instead of who you really are D:
@crawaii6302
@crawaii6302 4 жыл бұрын
They don’t even know who was the real one. In a part in the manga the “real” Ciel came and everyone was shook. That made me pity ourCiel more, he worked so hard and than his bro steals his’ life away.
@lulooper
@lulooper 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Our Ciel worked hard just to get back on his enemies and now people are turning on him just cause his brother is like "I'm Ciel Phantomhive!" SUCH BSSSSSS
@mysticalkeyblade759
@mysticalkeyblade759 4 жыл бұрын
[ FAIRYPRISMS ] I hate bizarre Ciel and Undertaker
@crawaii6302
@crawaii6302 3 жыл бұрын
@Skylar Mccall hippity hoppity ig :(
@fifiannisa9639
@fifiannisa9639 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if our Ciel also thought the same thing as Lizzy, the "I wish Ciel had survived instead."
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
He does, that's the reason he's been pretending to be Ciel, because he believes he deserved to live instead
@random...3723
@random...3723 4 жыл бұрын
He does..
@eunikenatasha5697
@eunikenatasha5697 3 жыл бұрын
i also noticed that some of others families that only know "Ciel" would feel pity if ourciel didn't lie and says that he is the only one that survive, you know.. since he is a spare of his brother twins :") im sad and angry for the real ciel that show up and ruin his twins life so cruely :( like... he did outlife for you, take death and life mission behalf of your name, you moron! :"(
@natsumehide3978
@natsumehide3978 3 жыл бұрын
He does
@nataliawashington872
@nataliawashington872 3 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu right I hope Elizabeth forgives him and sees Real!Ciel for the horrible piece of shit that he is and sides with Our!Ciel
@luna_4982
@luna_4982 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason lizzy should go for the fake ciel because of all the moments they spent
@guardianofthecloud7133
@guardianofthecloud7133 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, our Ciel is the one she loves. The time she spent with real Ciel were when they were children, they definitely care for each other but it’s not romantic love. She’s only staying with real Ciel out of obligation of being the fiancé of the queen’s watchdog, which is him now.
@cindyiraheta8019
@cindyiraheta8019 4 жыл бұрын
@@meganslaw333 OMG is he really falling for her and are u sure it's a romantic thing? I havent read the manga in a long time I'm missing out a lot. Can u please give me details
@lust_4_lyfe
@lust_4_lyfe 4 жыл бұрын
If that happened it would've been like Sabrina (Audrey Hepburn) :D
@HawkinaBox
@HawkinaBox 4 жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING! He treated her so well!
@char3use
@char3use 4 жыл бұрын
@@cindyiraheta8019 well our Ciel cared for Lizzie and he doesn't hate her. He really wants to protect Lizzie even if it costs his life and he wants Lizzie to be happy.
@sarenachavez4604
@sarenachavez4604 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me in the book of Atlantic she mentions what he said a few years back and yet "ciel" had no recollections of that. His face shows it all....
@fatrat3746
@fatrat3746 4 жыл бұрын
He pretended to be Ciel because he wanted to keep his brothers spirit alive..he gets blamed
@sugarqcoat
@sugarqcoat 3 жыл бұрын
i mean it’s shitty. imagine thinking someone is a certain person and suddenly they isn’t anymore and result to be lying to you, i understand lizzie and i would have reacted worse to someone lying to me so awfully
@uwuuwu6229
@uwuuwu6229 3 жыл бұрын
IKR like he was trying to keep her happy but then he gats this NO
@kiramyssu
@kiramyssu 3 жыл бұрын
Guys wtf if someone important to you died you want someone to pretend they're that person instead of telling you the truth?
@uwuuwu6229
@uwuuwu6229 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiramyssu I never thought about it that way. You make a reasonable point so I think you are right
@bernadetteonugha5236
@bernadetteonugha5236 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao you guys should realize that the fake ciel just wanted to keep everyone happy because nobody would be happy if only fake ciel came back and not the real ciel so he had to pretend to be his brother.
@polariize
@polariize 5 жыл бұрын
oh no I'm crying all over again since I read this chapter Lizzy has been my favorite since the start and I instantly felt so bad for Lizzy once the twin theory was confirmed
@kookiecream7259
@kookiecream7259 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I read the manga
@polariize
@polariize 3 жыл бұрын
@@kookiecream7259 i read it on book walker with cdawg va's many codes from sponsorships i havent caught up with the manga
@jiminsmxgicshop
@jiminsmxgicshop 3 жыл бұрын
@@kookiecream7259 you can read it here www.mangaread.org/
@kookiecream7259
@kookiecream7259 3 жыл бұрын
@@jiminsmxgicshop thanks
@chorapitemisachistiinovi
@chorapitemisachistiinovi 3 жыл бұрын
samee i wnat to hug her so bad 😭
@danielcymerman512
@danielcymerman512 4 жыл бұрын
Lizzy is going through the crisis that every woman goes through when they hear a lie from her partner or something that has hidden her, she is disappointed but deep down she still loves him.
@random...3723
@random...3723 4 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly
@KingWarman00
@KingWarman00 3 жыл бұрын
so lizzie stayed with the "fake" ciel or not n
@kiramyssu
@kiramyssu 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingWarman00 we don't know yet, she didn't appear again in the manga since that scene actually
@KingWarman00
@KingWarman00 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiramyssu ha... ok thanks, but personnaly i think its better if she stay with smile/fake ciel . Not you ?
@KingWarman00
@KingWarman00 3 жыл бұрын
Because from what I understood, as soon as the real one arrived she gave up smile
@mariaconcepcionabe9075
@mariaconcepcionabe9075 3 жыл бұрын
Lizzy was a victim of deception. Imagine she loved him dearly, and what if she really married him? The time she spent on him was going to be a lie. That's just cruel. But I feel bad for OUR Ciel too :((
@Star-ie8br
@Star-ie8br 3 жыл бұрын
Yup yup. And I've been there too it pk hurts m'doods 😔
@mystique9130
@mystique9130 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't get if she really wanted to become a bride or just doing it out of obligation. If you include the fact she's willing to become someone she truly isn't just to be an ideal wife towards the Real Ciel in Book of Atlantic. That's alot, but she's slowly becoming more of herself when it comes to Our Ciel, so now the truth is in, what she will choose?
@scarlettbrooks1838
@scarlettbrooks1838 Жыл бұрын
What's really a cruel twist is that the Ciel we knew didn't know that his brother was still alive. He saw him sacrificed by a bunch of heathen pedophiles, and wanted to take revenge in his name. If he had told the truth, or at least part of the truth, nobody would've fully accepted him, and Lizzie would've still been expected to carry on with the marriage. She may have grown to love the false Ciel, but it still would've been a torturous marriage for the both of them.
@aerweyna5715
@aerweyna5715 Жыл бұрын
She should go for fake Ciel, he really accepted Lizzy in all forms. When she was showing her sweet "girlish" side to her awesome swordsman skills. "Real" Ciel was the whole reason she felt ashamed of being a powerful woman. I really hope she realizes how much "fake" Ciel has done for her and much he's actually grown to love her
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
Well I hope so. But I would be happy even if they grow to be friends and not lovers. Just want them to blossom as characters and their dynamic to develop well.
@kathrinlindern2697
@kathrinlindern2697 2 ай бұрын
She should probably not go for either of them, but real Ciel is kinda dead - he exists without a soul, feeds on other people's blood and probably has his mind all muddled with faked cinematic records. Our Ciel lied to her, is bound by a contract to the devil and probably will not live long enough to get married. She should feel sorry for both of them, but really, the only happy ending is Lizzy realizing that she does not need to define herself as someone's bride.
@lizzzzyizhere
@lizzzzyizhere 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Your Lizzy impression gave me chills!
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much!!! :D That means a lot to me
@EeveelutionStorm
@EeveelutionStorm Жыл бұрын
I, deeply hope that Lizzie remembers at some point, when our Ciel clearly was showing her affection. Or how he admired her, truly when she saved him during the Book of the Atlantic arc. She kicked serious ass and he was proud of her. I hope she remembers that the trauma and self doubt/hatred she had for herself was seeded by his twin. Our Ciel, actually respected her, loved her. That Ciel wanted a trophy wife, a cute little doll. He didn't want her to be herself.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
People forget kids her age only start to self reflect then and begin to understand that the world is more complicated than it seemed in childhood. Sooner or later, something always crushes your rose-tinted view of your world. It leaves you confused or disillusioned in the process. It happened to Real Ciel, Fake Ciel, Prince Soma and now her. She is still so young. She is confusing herself with so many contradicting, thoughts and feelings, that she is overwhelmed. She needs to calm down and process it properly. So that she can see the truth for what it is and then decide whom she wants.
@EeveelutionStorm
@EeveelutionStorm Жыл бұрын
@@happilyevernever4289 Oh absolutely. I just hope she realizes who it is... I just look back on all the times Ciel saved her life, or humiliated himself for her sake, even putting aside his own feelings for her and risked his life for her. Ahh now I wanna rewatch Book of the Atlantic again.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
@@EeveelutionStorm it's pretty cute how these two barely know each other's deepest darkest secrets, but still feel like they have each other all figured out. Lol Yeah.. I hope both of them have a real hear to heart moment in the future. I need them to acknowledge each other for who they really are and mend their bond.
@nataliawashington872
@nataliawashington872 4 жыл бұрын
Looking back at all the moments she had with Our Ciel, it just felt more real like Our Ciel truly loved her I mean I can’t count the numerous times our!Ciel put Lizzy first before even his own life. He lives to want to make her happy and even accepted her for who she truly was, a genius at Fencing 🤺, which was clearly a side she didn’t want to show him because she didn’t want to frighten him but he still loved and accepted that side while & ik he was a child at the time and prolly didn’t realize what his words would do Real!Ciel was the reason WHY!! Lizzy Gide that side of herself from both him and Our!Ciel. Plus we’ve seen Our!Ciel he isn’t cruel like that to take pleasure in everyone-mainly Lizzy-not knowing the truth, he was devastated when he couldn’t leave with his Twin, I mean sacrificed himself in BoA so many times to make sure Lizzy was okay even telling her He wouldn’t be mad at her for saving his life. So yeah Lizzy honey I think you should choose the man who went out of his way to make sure you were nothing but happy and safe, like shit I’d want a Boyfriend/Fiancé/Husband like Our!Ciel one as dedicated as Our!Ciel was at making sure Elizabeth was nothing but Safe and Happy, I mean even after finding out she could very well take care of herself (fencing Skills!) he still made sure she was safe. 😈👿👹👺Our!Ciel is one HELL OF A FIANCÉ! 😈👿👹👺 A Damn Good & Amazing One At That Edit: what I would also like to add is from the pages I’ve seen OUR!Ciel seems to see Elizabeth as his equal whereas REAL!Ciel seems to see her as below him-I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he would’ve had mistresses after they got married she’d honestly be miserable if she married him, her happiness doesn’t seem to be his priority unlike OUR!Ciel who puts Elizabeth’s happiness above anything even his own life and it’s obvious to see that he loves her and she loves him which is why Lizzy looks so conflicted here, all her life she was told her duty was to marry and basically be REAL!Ciel’s bodyguard-her duty was to REAL!Ciel but she fell in love with OUR!Ciel not to mention Our!Ciel’s lying only made her further conflicted and she obviously feels terrible that if Our!Ciel came back as himself instead of taking Real!Ciel’s identity then she knows for a fact that she would feel unhappy that her fiancé’s brother came back instead of her actual Original fiancé, which when you think about it is pretty understandable for that time period even though she feels horrible for it-legit women were disowned if they refused to marry their arranger marriage. I feel....possibly anyone would’ve wished the same thing in her situation for their lover to come back rather than their lover’s brother. So I’m not even going to judge her for that especially since she herself realizes and acknowledges that she’s no better than Our!Ciel (since he lied) for knowing for a fact that she would be unhappy if Our!Ciel came back as himself
@Evemarquez_
@Evemarquez_ 4 жыл бұрын
you are so true i kept yelling that ceil risk his life for lizzy. lizzy would be dead at the book of atlantic when the door was closed but no ceil came back to her
@melizabeth4lifemxe236
@melizabeth4lifemxe236 4 жыл бұрын
But if you pay attention he only loves and cares for her as his little sistser
@firewatter5083
@firewatter5083 4 жыл бұрын
@@melizabeth4lifemxe236 I thought lizzy was older than him
@melizabeth4lifemxe236
@melizabeth4lifemxe236 4 жыл бұрын
@@firewatter5083 she is lmaoo😂😂
@nataliawashington872
@nataliawashington872 3 жыл бұрын
@@Evemarquez_ bruh I remember being so scared that the door closed and that he didn’t make it and I thought Lizzy would be on her own. Thank goodness he got there in time
@pandora3586
@pandora3586 4 жыл бұрын
LIZZY X FAKE CIEL FOR LIFEEEE AHHHHH!! 🌸
@Wifesakura
@Wifesakura 3 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh
@bernadetteonugha5236
@bernadetteonugha5236 3 жыл бұрын
No I ship fake ciel and sieglinde now
@cherryblossom2585
@cherryblossom2585 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernadetteonugha5236 but lizzy and ciel is engaged and he loves her he just can't express himself and also why is ciel ship with everyone on black butler like he is engaged already that like shipping your mom are dad with someone but their married
@janethmedina7441
@janethmedina7441 2 жыл бұрын
Ewww, there cousins and it's extremely toxic I can never see it happen like honestly she called him "the spare" like he's not even a living human being just a corpse that Real Ciel used too drag around with blood and guts inside or a doll with no emotions. Just leave it on a table and expecting it too still be there while she goes too have a blast.
@rdyrk8405
@rdyrk8405 2 жыл бұрын
omg fake ciel
@HawkinaBox
@HawkinaBox 4 жыл бұрын
This scene pissed me off so much. Even though "fake" Ciel lied, he still genuinely cared about Lizzy.
@lulooper
@lulooper 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Poor Ciel (the "fake" one) In my opinion, Lizzie doesn't deserve our Ciel, after all he's been through. But in her side of the story i can understand.
@pleasedontlookforme8036
@pleasedontlookforme8036 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't think I can ever redeem her in my eyes now - I never really liked her anyway, she was whiny and annoying and didn't treat our!ciel or his possessions with care. She would never consider his feelings and constantly push annoying stuff onto him. Now this bitch abandons all the years that he spent putting up with her bullshit and loving her for who she was - strength, selfishness, loudness, compulsiveness and femininity and all - and yet she abandons him for the little bitch who even when they were children and he hadn't been turned into a little scheming bitch yet, still called her barbaric and didn't even love her. Seriously?!? You'd think after all those years together she would have at least heard him out and given him the benefit of the doubt? Ungrateful.
@pleasedontlookforme8036
@pleasedontlookforme8036 4 жыл бұрын
@Janne Simi but the thing is, did she really love real!ciel? She's been claiming she loved him since they were tiny little brats but let's get real, what 5 year old knows what love is? I don't think her love for either of them was real. If she did love real!ciel then say it wasn't our!ciel who returned but it was actually real!ciel but he acts the same as our!ciel now due to trauma. His personality would have changed so much to match our!ciel now that he could hardly be considered the same person anyway. If she didn't love real!ciel for his personality, what did she love him for? She doesn't know. She just loves the one known as "ciel", she doesn't care how they act towards her or their personality, it's like she's trying to cling on to the fact that "she loves her fiancée" and trying to console herself so that she doesn't open up to the reality that she's going to marry someone she doesn't love, because, clearly, she prizes love very much. I feel like when she was young and was decided as real!ciel's fiancée, she told herself "he's my fiancée, so therefore I must love him!" And she just kept lying to herself untill it became a truth. You don't love somebody for 3 years and claim every bloody day that you are going to be their bride only to stop loving him because his identity wasn't who you thought he was. That's not how love works. You love someone for their personality, not for their identity. That's why so many people get divorced when they realise the person who they married doesn't have the personality they thought they had, but it'd be a bit ridiculous if we heard of someone getting divorced because someone didn't know the real name of their lover. She's pathetic. She's been lying to herself about being in love, desperate to convince herself. Now that the other ciel is back, she said it herself, the first thing she thinks isn't "I'm so glad he's alive" she thinks, "what now?". Disgusting. And even if you say that her reaction makes her feel more human, let me ask you this. If you found out your boyfriend was pretending to be his deceased older identical twin brother, but then suddenly his deceased older brother turns out to be alive. Would you run to the older brothers side playing victim, or would you want to hear your boyfriend out first? I sure as hell would like to know the reason, but clearly bitch Lizzy only wants to push our!ciel away to get rid of her guilt. Little narcissistic bitch. Sorry if my first reason was confusing as hell, it's hard to explain.
@pleasedontlookforme8036
@pleasedontlookforme8036 4 жыл бұрын
@Janne Simi *sigh* I know... But I just can't bring myself to like her anymore... Her betrayal was just too much...why didn't she even try to find out why our ciel lied?? If she was devoted to our ciel as well, then surely she'd want to know why he lied?!? Right??? To me, she's a coward... A coward and a back stabbing bitch.... She'll probably understand the weight of the finger she pointed at our ciel once real ciel dies, but it's already too late. Remember, because of real ciel accusations, our ciel was supposed to go to prison as a serial killer!!! And she knew real ciel was up to something! And she still ignored him!!! She's simply consumed in guilt and fear... I get that... But so was ciel when he came back from his 3 months of hell, and so was madam red for many, many years.... Yet, neither of them ran away from their problems. They both confronted them! Our Ciel was younger and weaker then she is now when he came back, but he was much more brave! I understand nobody likes to be lied too, however I personally could sympathise with a reason like our ciel's. But for Lizzy, not only did she not try to find out the reason, she doesn't even want to hear it! She's just running away!! I hope she realises the hardships caused by her actions! It's a cruel fate to give to a teenage girl, but she deserves it. Real ciel will die, our ciel will no longer have the feelings he caught over 3 years of being her fiancée, and cancel her engagement and only then shall she know, how much the connections of the present ment to her than a long dead ghost, who never truly loved you for you anyway. She is pitiful, but not pitiful enough for me to forgive her. She reaps what she sows. Ungrateful brat - to let the boy you claimed to love for 3 years straight get thrown into prison for a crime you know in your gut he didn't commit- no - to play a part in it! How disgusting.
@random...3723
@random...3723 4 жыл бұрын
His name is astre
@skye387
@skye387 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel weird that people questioning Lizzy's love like... she's only 14? She probably doesn't actually know love like that yet? Honestly, with her being that young, it's understandable not to realize especially since the circumstance actually allow for changes in someone from the trauma.
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 3 жыл бұрын
Hell, if I were in her shoes at 14, I'd feel the same damn way. That's already a conflicting thing to go through, to go through it as a kid who barely understands what love is? That's insane!
@Pomelochoco
@Pomelochoco 2 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu and people hated on her still because of this... Lol wtf
@mrana4186
@mrana4186 4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that Lizzie is gonna snap very soon...
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
At her fiance hopefully
@moonieangie
@moonieangie 4 жыл бұрын
Oof when that hits me hard to see Lizzy like this. I hope she choose our Ciel
@char3use
@char3use 4 жыл бұрын
to be frank i cried when the real Ciel made an appearance in the manga I LEGIT CRIED BRO. I never really tried reading mangas because i prefer watching but Black Butler made me read a freaking MANGA !!!
@sakurausagi5046
@sakurausagi5046 4 жыл бұрын
That was GREAT voice acting! I’m serious, you have talent!
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@kikilovely9100
@kikilovely9100 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this is too awesome.
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@kikilovely9100
@kikilovely9100 5 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu you're welcome ❤️ have a nice day
@isabird2944
@isabird2944 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry people we still have a long road to go. The story did not end yet
@aliengarbage
@aliengarbage 4 жыл бұрын
WAIT REALLY!!! WTH I thought it was all over! ALL OF IT!! 😱👌👌👌👌
@isabird2944
@isabird2944 4 жыл бұрын
@SlightyChippedCookie You can start checking out the manga, there’s a new chapter every month
@aliengarbage
@aliengarbage 4 жыл бұрын
@@isabird2944 NANI!? Where?? HOW!? What!! Where can I read it??
@isabird2944
@isabird2944 4 жыл бұрын
@SlightyChippedCookie manganelo.com/chapter/kuroshitsuji/chapter_162 (This is the latest chapter, you should probably start at the first chapter so that you can understand the story more and this website sometimes post new chapters a few days late but it’s okay)
@mme__sutcliff4433
@mme__sutcliff4433 5 жыл бұрын
My poor baby girl ♡
@lumine7885
@lumine7885 2 жыл бұрын
When I read the manga .... I felt complicated..... I felt Lizzie only cared about the 'Ciel' she was engaged to.... She felt bad because the fake ciel would have married her..... But the thing is..... The fake ciel only wants to be the earl of phantomhive....... He wants revenge ...... He wants all those who killed his brother and parents to suffer... The fake ciel .... I guess he knew that he would never her..... Since Sebastian is going to take his soul after he completes his revenge.... Plus.... I also felt bad for the fake ciel... When I read thier back story..... No one has called him by his name..... Rather than Ciel's twin ... He was treated like Ciel's imposter.... He...who was there with them while all the times.... He ... Who did all the work as the Queen's dog.... Was betrayed by all...except his servants ofcourse...who knew the fake ciel after the incident... I just hope when the Undertaker said that he doesn't want to lose any more phantomhives... He was not only talking about ciel but also the fake ciel.....
@maoyuhh9748
@maoyuhh9748 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh reading this make me more sad
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
Assuming that it took fake Ciel all his life to take revenge, which Sebastian admittedly is gladly ok with, what-Lizzy's supposed to just bear his kids like this? Does he want her to strive to be a widow? Because that's where it all looked like she was headed. Maybe after that he mutters the courage to tell her the truth, after she gave half her life to him. Devoting so much of her and he gifts her with this lie. Does he think it'll hurt her less when he parts from her then? Why use her and not let her be free of her obligations as 'his' fiance? His end goal is revenge, but I see no reason for him to lead Lizzy on like that and drag her into this mess. That's what's truly selfish. It boggles my mind how people can't see how fake Ciel can and has negatively hurt people with his path to revenge. It's beautiful and dark and nuanced. That's what I like about the way Yana writes her characters.
@madisonyomans9004
@madisonyomans9004 2 ай бұрын
I see a bit of our Ciel mindset. Because I am a twin, but we, my sister, aren't identical. However, twins are often referred by being called "The twins," my name or thier name Twin, or just "twin." As twins, people have a habit of associating their identities with each other. You're never seen as separate from one another. It was tough for Ciel because he lacked his own identity and lived in the shadow of his stronger twin brother, who was the next in line to inherit the family legacy. He constantly felt the pressure of living up to his brother's reputation, and the trauma of witnessing his brother's death, knowing he was expected to take his place, had a profound effect on him. While it was wrong for him to assume a false identity, it's understandable, considering the expectation that his family wouldn't accept him as the surviving brother. They would likely have preferred him to have perished instead.
@liapaulageduspan256
@liapaulageduspan256 4 ай бұрын
Of course this was going to be her reaction. Her entire life revolved around Ciel --- she felt betrayed.l to know the person she spent loving and clinging to wasn't the person she thought he was. But she also knows that she fell in love with his twin, the "imposter". Deep down she knows she was happier with oCiel because he treated her with respect, kindness and tolerance.
@rebekahwolkiewicz449
@rebekahwolkiewicz449 3 жыл бұрын
Lizzy. They’re identical twins! Identical! You never spent any time with ‘Fake’ Ciel so how would you know the brothers’ were different at all? One side of a coin doesn’t know it has any difference or outstanding features than the other side it never sees it. Babies can’t tell the difference between identical twins, even if one is a parent. It’s about time people felt some sympathy for ‘fake’ Ciel.
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a bit more complicated than that. Black Butler uses heavy undertones from the Victorian era. Elizabeth was raised her whole life to only love the real Ciel because they were betrothed, her falling in love with his brother isn't a big deal in today's world but back then? That was practically bringing shame to your family. If this were in a modern era, none of these issues would be happening in the first place though xD I guess it shines a light on just how fucked up the era was for women. The other thing was that the twins did have differences. Our!Ciel was shy, had poor health and was easily scared. When this kid comes home and he's radiating confidence? Yeah, Francis admits she genuinely thought it was the real Ciel that came home because of the drastic shift in personality and the fact that Our!Ciel refused to tell anyone what happened and likely shut down any/all attempts to press him further about what happened.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
People already do feel sympathy for fake Ciel. It's Lizzy most rabid fangirls can't sympathize with.
@zofiawisniewska8710
@zofiawisniewska8710 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God now I feel even more sorry for her 😫 I didn't like Lizzy on the beginning but when I started to understand her behavior my point of view changed too. I noticed that she's someone more than cute facade. The worst thing is that she's right - people wouldn't be so happy if they knew that the one who came back wasn't real Ciel. I feel like our Ciel was in the shadow of his brother all the time. What was he supposed to do if he confessed the truth? Would his family allow him to become an earl? I don't say he's without guilt I just think he chose the best option for himself. And hurt Lizzy awfully by the way.
@josephinamungaray6118
@josephinamungaray6118 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like everybody forgets that the fake Ciel exists. No one talks about him or misses him.
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 3 жыл бұрын
Madam Red kinda explained it in her cinematic record but basically: Everyone *did* ask him about what happened to his brother but our!Ciel refused to talk about it and no one wanted to further traumatize him about it so they decided not to pressure him. Not to mention that due to his health (and the Victorian era's handling of the spare child in general), he actually didn't know his own family very well.
@josephinamungaray6118
@josephinamungaray6118 2 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu How did Victorians treat spare children?
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephinamungaray6118 It depends largely on the household and the status of the family. You had spares who were treated more like a tool and weren't acknowledged as their own person at all, households that were extremely harsh on the spare child so they were prepared to take over duties if the heir died or households that hated their spare child all together and sent them to some sort of boarding school in the city. The gender also depends as well. If the spare was a girl, pretty much expect constant disdain and disappointment. If the spare was a boy, expect constant pressure or neglect because they weren't born first. Again, this all heavily depends on the noble status as well. A Baron might treat their child with more respect and love due to being lower on the noble tier but a Duke might be very harsh towards his child because they're such a high status within the noble tier. The opposite can happen as well, it just all vastly depends.
@astre8321
@astre8321 4 жыл бұрын
Because of this. I just realize that my life since I watched the 1st season 9 yrs ago is a lie. I need to rewatch and read the manga now.
@naweludoucene2825
@naweludoucene2825 4 жыл бұрын
Baby girl should return to baby boy i mean "real" is obviously up to no good And omg Lizzie in a weiding dress❤❤❤😍she s a real beauty
@kerrypanda4472
@kerrypanda4472 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Ociel😭😭😭 like the manga he said pointing to Rciel at the table "that is me and here is Ciel phantomhive" he tried to making Rciel keep alive and pointing himself(Ociel) to be the one who they killed😭😭👊 BTW if you remember at chapter 90-91 Ociel show his truth Emotions and felling....and he said "Ciel doesnt want pain anymore" its show that he loves Rciel so much😭
@Star-ie8br
@Star-ie8br 3 жыл бұрын
That's painful, to suddenly discover all you've known was a lie. 😔 Sorry Elizabeth Thanks for the upload, nice dub 👏
@NinjaTellTales
@NinjaTellTales 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell what book this is-? I'm very confused- I thought I read them all ;-; (there are only 27 right-?)
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
This is from chapter the soon-to-be released volume 28. Chapters of Black Butler are released first so I highly recommend checking Bookwalker or a similar site for the chapter :)
@NinjaTellTales
@NinjaTellTales 5 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu ahh! Thank-you so much! I'm glad to know Lizzie isn't dead XD
@viola7833
@viola7833 Жыл бұрын
I like to call REAL!ciel a fake ciel.. Because he’s practically dead. He’s pretending to be alive while stealing everything away from the ciel we always knew, the ciel that everyone in the show knew until that unwanted dead brother decided to randomly come back to life,, That’s exactly why I’am starting to think undertaker is the real imposter here
@kyouka3482
@kyouka3482 3 жыл бұрын
I would've picked OurCiel because Lizzy and OurCiel made so much memories together. OurCiel also caught feelings for Lizzy but she wants the realCiel. It's her choice. I just hope she remembers the memories with OurCiel..
@kye4773
@kye4773 4 жыл бұрын
Lizzy should be with the "fake" Ciel cuz he had spent those times with her and *THAT'S* what's precious.
@pleasedontlookforme8036
@pleasedontlookforme8036 4 жыл бұрын
Nope - after this I'm convinced. Our!ciel deserves better. Wayyyy better then this ungrateful whiny bitch. He should get closer to that German genius loli (I forgot what her name is lol) cus she was way better then ungrateful Lizzy.
@kye4773
@kye4773 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontlookforme8036 I thought our Ciel stole his brother's name so that's why I thought he was the fake one... This sounds confusing and Idk how to put it in a less complicated way... Sorry. 😅😅
@kye4773
@kye4773 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontlookforme8036 I liked Lizzy in Book of Atlantic...
@pleasedontlookforme8036
@pleasedontlookforme8036 4 жыл бұрын
@@kye4773 our!ciel is the fake one, your right - but Lizzy completely abandoned him without even trying to hear his side of the story, undermining all those years they had spent together, all those times our!ciel put out life and limb to save her - just because his identity wasn't who she thought he was. Her love is a lie, both for real!ciel and our!ciel - her love is for her fiancée, it doesn't matter who they are, she'll love them just because they are her fiancée. Not because of who they are as a person. You don't love someone for 3 years and then stop loving them because his identity was actually not who you thought he was, that's not love, that's a lie. A lie to convince herself that she's in love with the one she'll end up marrying so she doesn't feel miserable for marrying someone she doesn't "love". She's pathetic. Lots of people in the fandom call her 'queen' - but she is no queen - just an ungrateful, spoilt, whiny brat who has been mistaking "denial" for "love". Our!ciel deserves better than that back stabbing bitch.
@kye4773
@kye4773 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontlookforme8036 Wow.... This is incredible that you put this much effort to explain it... Thanks for telling me! 😄😄
@Wifesakura
@Wifesakura 3 жыл бұрын
I ship fake ciel (our ciel ) with lizzie because he treats her so good and she wants just too make him happy 🙏🏻 i loved their realationship so much💕😭 (soowwyy for my english)
@cherryblossom2585
@cherryblossom2585 3 жыл бұрын
And when the r!ciel came back she lost her smile
@labyrynsphinx2797
@labyrynsphinx2797 4 жыл бұрын
I am starting to think, does lizzie really, truly love ciel? Because as she had stated, she could not tell apart ciel’s twin from ciel himself.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 3 жыл бұрын
It's not fair to judge her when she's distraught over many a things. She needs time and a healthy, safe space to sort out her feelings, not Blavat's effing cult. 😂
@Pomelochoco
@Pomelochoco 2 жыл бұрын
She's a kid, she sometimes doubted it... But as a kid you would just brush it off and think of it as them growing up or smth. People forgets that she's just a kid and not some pathetic adult lol
@kathrinlindern2697
@kathrinlindern2697 2 ай бұрын
@@Pomelochoco The thing is... all the adults in her family really are that pathetic. They also never noticed, never cared and let a severely traumatized ten-year-old take on burdens that would be hard to carry for an adult. They left him completely alone with his demon(s) is that old mansion and then pretended to be cheated. The thing is, Lizzy noticed that "Ciel's" personality had changed completely - and then just chucked it up to trauma, because, yeah.
@Ale9012
@Ale9012 3 жыл бұрын
I- Well damn, chill bro he is doing this so Ciel wouldn’t be forgotten, cause lizzy you forgot all about the real Ciel twin, he is doing this for your fiancé
@wengielee4826
@wengielee4826 4 жыл бұрын
Good Lizzie voice but I still ship them
@mg-dy7wm
@mg-dy7wm 5 жыл бұрын
YESSS! BLACK BUTLER! THANK YOUU!
@RemikoHanashi
@RemikoHanashi 4 ай бұрын
Im just imagining our ciel would yell "I DO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS WANT MY BROTHER TO BE ALIVE, NOT ME. DO YOU GUYS THINK ITS EASY TO HOLD ALL THAT TRAUMA AND PAIN?! AND AT THE END I WILL GIVE ALL THOSE HARDWORK I HAVE DONE?"
@user-lesserafim0502
@user-lesserafim0502 5 жыл бұрын
What chapter is this?? BTW you have a cute voice it fits her character so much!💓
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It's chapter 144 :)
@hayleyzefox610
@hayleyzefox610 4 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu omg im only on chap 16 lol
@sunnysong9122
@sunnysong9122 Жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu OH DEAR HAVENS THANK YOU I'V BEEN LOOKING FIR THIS FOR AGES
@pandora3586
@pandora3586 4 жыл бұрын
Lizzy should go for the "Fake Ciel " because he spent so much time with her! He never only acted like a fiancé had to, he really LOVED her! He rescued her so many times! And to be honest the "real Ciel" doesn’t deserve the role as the Queens Watchdog. "The Fake Ciel" worked hard for the role! He made the Phantomhive’s so big! He worked hard for all this! And like I said ,I hope Lizzy chooses "The fake Ciel". And he looks way hotter anyway,lol.
@pyukumuku-6645
@pyukumuku-6645 3 жыл бұрын
dont call my baby an imposter
@ray.x3103
@ray.x3103 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like- The Artificial ciel A.K.A zombie ciel Will soon turn on her someday. Hurt her. ect.
@Alina-rm4pe
@Alina-rm4pe 4 жыл бұрын
nice dub ! (+ the music from mad father >>)
@Buhbayou
@Buhbayou 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone's talking about how they seem to have learned to love each other and I do agree that in book of the Atlantic it kinda seems like it, but am I the only one that feels like he's only protecting her because it's his duty as "his brother"? In the beginning of season two with the white stag, he only agreed to go look for it after there were people telling him, that it's not very noble of him to make his fiancé cry. Usually (at least to me) it seems like he hesitates to do what Lizzy wants to, but then remembers what his goal is and gives in to it.
@kiramyssu
@kiramyssu 3 жыл бұрын
With season 2 you mean the one with Alouis and stuff? Since it's all filler I didn't watch it idk what happens there, but I agree they don't love each other, at least not romantically, O.Ciel cares about her ofc and Lizzy has the illusion she must love Ciel since they are engaged, in this scene it feels as she is just really shocked from the fact that "maybe I don't love my future husband?!?!?"
@everythingwillbe6904
@everythingwillbe6904 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Lizzy loves ciel, but ciel doesn't love Lizzy in a romantic way but rather in a more relative way
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually not *his* duty. He took it upon himself to be the fiance as comes with playing the part. I don't think it has brotherly connotations at all, when they fuckin played house😂👍 and went on dates. If this lie went on any longer, then they'd prolly be married with kids and yall still would claim he's just brotherly towards her.
@oneweeksinceyoulookatme4386
@oneweeksinceyoulookatme4386 5 жыл бұрын
Wait is the imposter Liquid or Solidus Ciel or is it Venom Ciel What happen to Solid Ciel?
@baronsionis6855
@baronsionis6855 4 жыл бұрын
So what does Ciel do now? Does he eliminate the imposter? What of the servants and Sebastian?
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
Currently in the manga, he's working with Lau to infiltrate and destroy all of real!Ciel's blood supply (as he needs blood from donors to keep him alive) then that's when he can kill his brother. We don't know like the full plan as right now we're starting a story arc involving Mei-Rin's backstory.
@baronsionis6855
@baronsionis6855 4 жыл бұрын
Now that is satisfying. Im so glad Ciel is going to such great lengths to eliminate his brother who just randomly appeared and screwed things up for him.
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
@@baronsionis6855 Yeah! The only problem is to make sure his body is destroyed so Undertaker can't bring him back >-< since Undertaker is obsessed with the Phantomhive family and refuses to watch any other Phantomhive die
@Edithan22
@Edithan22 4 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu where do you read manga???
@aliengarbage
@aliengarbage 4 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu What will they ever come out with more manga or is it the end??
@ravensponsler9278
@ravensponsler9278 4 жыл бұрын
I would take the fake Ciel so bye now he’s up for grabs. Lol 😂
@cctruong3866
@cctruong3866 5 жыл бұрын
You did amazingly on this dub!!💕💕
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@yukotakeoi2170
@yukotakeoi2170 4 жыл бұрын
I love fake ciel I love the little twin brother 😍😍😍
@graceobrien4142
@graceobrien4142 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how we’re all calling the ‘’fake’’ ciel, fake. It’s just pisses me off the fake ciel deserve to be called just ciel 😔( I hate ciels twin/ the one without an eyepatch)
@itznickzplayz6496
@itznickzplayz6496 3 жыл бұрын
Same I hate the real Ciel too
@babyelephant14
@babyelephant14 4 ай бұрын
Great fandub !! I'm so sad for Lizzy... She feels guilty while it is not her fault....
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 3 жыл бұрын
Lol she can't even wholeheartedly blame OurCiel. Beating oneself up, that's one more thing u have in common with OurCiel. ;)
@ciellikescake5085
@ciellikescake5085 5 жыл бұрын
Hey omg would it be possible to use your audio for a CMV? I’ll give credit and a link to your channel?
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
Sure! As long as you give credit and link the video / my channel :)
@imaslimeandimlonely3713
@imaslimeandimlonely3713 4 жыл бұрын
Is that Maria's Theme from Mad Father i hear
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Destiny_Fvcker
@Destiny_Fvcker 5 жыл бұрын
Holy sht what happens now
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
Our!Ciel's gotta earn back everything he worked hard for >:)
@genzhours9466
@genzhours9466 5 жыл бұрын
No idea what this is, but it's awesome!
@brycevo
@brycevo 5 жыл бұрын
Black Butler
@strawberryyyz
@strawberryyyz 2 жыл бұрын
I want this arc animated so badly. But it probably won't get an adaption till like 20 years have passed or at all. 💔
@ak38595
@ak38595 10 ай бұрын
Yo congrats its getting animated
@keyshitsherlock8912
@keyshitsherlock8912 3 жыл бұрын
'i wish ciel had survived instead' right here I was disappointed... In his childhood, Ciel was always ostracized, sick and always considered himself a substitute. elizabeth no, nobody deserves OUR ciel...
@seaurchinboiVODS
@seaurchinboiVODS 3 жыл бұрын
Oooooh that was so good!
@invalidloop6523
@invalidloop6523 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all can someone confirm one thing for me ; why is ciel(the elder brother) being like that for example when he said do anything with the toys that ciel(the younger brother) ordered or something how come he was like "burn it or do whatever you want" can someone please explain? Because I didn't really understand
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
Because real!Ciel is a manipulative child. He views everything his brother made, although proud of what he did on his own, as inferior and improper. He is proud and shocked that his brother was able to achieve his dream, but it's not his dream so he wants to burn down Funtom because it's not his and he doesn't want to be a business man. As he said to his brother when they were children "Nobles don't make toys." Basically Real!Ciel is a bitch lmao
@invalidloop6523
@invalidloop6523 4 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu ah I see, thanks!
@lulooper
@lulooper 4 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu Lmao tru i was like "Wow how nice he's proud of his brothers work" and then he was like "BurN It" then i was like "Hol uP-"
@rayne3035
@rayne3035 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't astre's fault since he also suffered by seeing his brother tortured and killed he only replaced his brother to keep his image and he watched over the family while having the burden to keep his brothers death secret it wasn't his fault so I don't get why they blamed and ridicule him :(
@ray.x3103
@ray.x3103 4 жыл бұрын
i wish season 2 is just a dream that he wakes up from in season 3 Spoiler for season 2 I dont want him to turn into a demon-
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
season 3 is a reboot that follows the manga so I guess you could say it's a bad dream xD
@lulooper
@lulooper 4 жыл бұрын
Season 2 isnt canon Lolol Lau and Abberline dont die either
@kiramyssu
@kiramyssu 3 жыл бұрын
Half of season 1 and entire season 2 are not canon, anything that happens there happened in the manga, so don't worry it *was* all but a bad dream Like in the anime the twin thing wouldn't work since that's not a thing here, tbh isn't Alouis and Claude a mix of O.Ciel and Sebastian plus R.Ciel and Undertaker?
@littlepotato1129
@littlepotato1129 3 жыл бұрын
I never loved Lizzy but now I like her even less. Her problems seem so ridiculous compared to what "Fake" Ciel have been through. He saw so many horrible things. Honestly, I always thought she didnt deserve him and I do NOT ship these two AT ALL. (In fact, I think Lizzy doesn't even deserve the "true" Ciel, I mean, she's so annoying !)
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 3 жыл бұрын
Well, she is an emotionally traumatized 14 year old girl so...lol Her problems with the "Fake" Ciel is that she doesn't know exactly what happened while he was kidnapped. He hasn't told anyone about what happened just that the "other twin didn't make it" but no one knows how. Madam Red even tried to ask and he changed the subject. She doesn't know how much he actually suffered, but she still has her own shit to deal with. Imagine being afraid your whole life in having an interest or side of yourself that's not deemed "ladylike" by society and an entire half of your family being murdered in one night? Not to mention a fiance who's extremely distant. In the manga and Book Of anime, the reason she appears "annoying" is just her attempts to try and make Ciel happy because society pressures a girl to be the best wife she can possibly be and if her husband isn't happy, it's her fault. She's a girl dealing with the pressures of her time period, loving the "wrong twin" and the trauma of an entire family being murdered overnight.
@KK_teller
@KK_teller 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the dub version
@paweurbaniski
@paweurbaniski 7 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for your works, and for now, it's going to be fucing great 🙂
@mayura7210
@mayura7210 2 жыл бұрын
WRON Q DOBLAJE TAN GENIAL QUEDÉ IMPRESIONADA DESDE EL PRIMER SEGUNDO EN QUE EMPEZÓ A HABLAR LA.VOZ REALMENTE LE QUEDA
@maoyuhh9748
@maoyuhh9748 2 жыл бұрын
So.. when ciel died and came back, nobody cared about our ciel...? Like..
@aerweyna5715
@aerweyna5715 Жыл бұрын
I've literally only seen the anime and read the manga and I'm so displeased to. Nobody realizes how much our Ciel has done for everybody including his brother
@animeyukiomalayalam6882
@animeyukiomalayalam6882 Жыл бұрын
Bro weeblu shoudl do more fandub like this
@goreysins
@goreysins 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I hate her she does got a point
@amtis2548
@amtis2548 2 жыл бұрын
She is a foolish character.. 😂😂😂😂😂 Btw ..have they animates this into anims?
@xXLunarMoonXx
@xXLunarMoonXx 3 жыл бұрын
I ship her with fake ciel 🤧✋
@toriaoi9765
@toriaoi9765 4 ай бұрын
สะใจจริงๆ อยากให้ฉากนี้ทำเป็นอนิเมชั่น แปลไทยเร็วๆ ให้คนทั้งโลกได้รู้ว่า ไอ้คนที่ด่าเซบาสเตียน อย่ามาด่าเรื่องบนเรือ อยากเยาะเย้ยให้เต็มที่ อยากสะใจให้เต็มที่กว่านี้😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@u-tone1997
@u-tone1997 2 жыл бұрын
Like it or not, I would rather say that Elizabeth "loves" real Ciel, and is more likely having a teenage crush on his little brother. Real Ciel is very very important to her as a friend and her responsibility (future husband and family), but our!Ciel being such a gentleman for always taking care of her and protecting her constantly for three years is not something to be ignored, and could easily cause romantic feelings to any teenage girl. Elizabeth is no exception. Rather, I think the reason she suffers like now isn't that she couldn't tell her rightful fiancé and hus twin apart, but she didn't want to- because she likes the "Ciel" in the back 3 years, and wanted him to stay the true one, her fiancé- rather than accepting the truth. She probably does develope romantic feelings for our Earl (let's be honest, if you got a guy swore to protect you with all he's got against a hord of zombies and actually fulfilled it without considering his own wellbeing, who wouldn't fell for him? ) , So she tried to ignore all the hints and evidence that might make him not "Ciel" even if she already suspected that, cause she likes this boy and wish he's her rightful fiancé, then her romance and responsibilities can both be achieved at one time. But as the truth bumped to her face that "Ciel" really wasn't the real one, she now feels guilty that she developed feelings for a guy who's not her rightful fiancé when he's under dire situation for three years, and while she still has to stand with real Ciel, her love for his little brother might all be in vain cause the other part was never sincere. Being deceived and mistook the twins for years isn't big deal, (Frances and Edward did the same, you just simply clearify and adjust it once you know the truth), it's that Elizabeth finds herself doesn't love real Ciel that much as she should (couldn't tell him and the twin apart), even betrayed him (sort of falling in love with his little brother, whom she shouldn't love that way) constantly (being suspicious about our Earl's identify but chose ignorance, because she actually prefer letting him stay her fiancé over knowing the truth), and the one who she could actually has feelings for doesn't really consider their relationship to be a serious one from the first place (it's like even you could be really in love with somebody, but if your opponent always treat it more like putting on a show for a character assigned to him then he couldn't be sincere but more like treating you like a child, just comforting you with candies, thus with an insincere man your love would never come true, but rather become a joke and made yourself a fool). Actually I think it's better for her to know the truth at this point, just 3 years of mistakes, way better than deceived all her life like a fool. Besides, I doubt our Protagonist ever really considered seriously about marrying Elizabeth, cause he himself doesn't look like anticipating any bright future beyond his revenge, and I'm sure he wasn't even sure whether he could live up to the age of marriage. Either way Elizabeth could easily be left alone, either by her "fiancé" or become a widow once our Earl's revenge is done, so better for her to know the truth before that I suppose. I guess our Earl never really wanted to give his heart nor promise Lizzie anything because he knows himself he has no future, and was simply cherishing her as someone close to her and as a gentleman. And I do think Elizabeth does love the real Ciel.....Maybe not in a romantic way, but she has strong familial and emotional ties with him, and he's also the person she shared her childhood and given her promise for a decade. That's love, if you ask me, not in a so fairytale way, but that's something you'll have to somebody very intimate and important to you and whom you've wanted share your life with.
@mystique9130
@mystique9130 2 жыл бұрын
Our Ciel is not gonna live much more longer considering he already sold his soul. Everything Our Ciel used to be before the tragedy is long dead, even if he does show love and care to Lizzy, it's never gonna change everything. His sole purpose is vengeance, nothing else, so he has his own faults too. We see how Our Ciel gets angry the fact when the truth is out, almost everyone turn his back on him. He never even once, consider the pain he gave to Lizzy with the lie, even if there's a reason for it. Our Ciel is slowly being corrupted time after time, the way Sebastian wanted. EDIT: Don't forget, the reason why Sebastian keeps Ciel alive for this long is cause he wanted to taint his soul to the point of no return and when that happens and if Ciel finally gets his vengeance, he will ate him.
@kathrinlindern2697
@kathrinlindern2697 2 ай бұрын
@@mystique9130 I think *practically* you are right - Lizzy is the only one of the three with a chance of growing up. But I do think our Ciel is genuinely very aware of how he hurt Lizzy. Lizzy is the one person our Earl actually considers the feelings of in a not-so-manipulative way. He is painfully aware that the information she just gained hurt her. And I don't think he blames her. He is never specifically angry at anyone - besides Undertaker and that bizarre-doll brother of his, who *did* frame him for murder. He just - rightfully - points out that the title and the accomplishments of the last three years are his. Also, Sebastian does not want the soul of a psychopath who does not care, he wants the soul of a desperate child who is fully aware of all the terrible things he did, will do and suffers for it. It's just that the kid thinks the suffering is worth it. Ciel is tortured, more so than just corrupted into not caring. He does evil despite the fact that he cares enormously and sometimes because of it.
@anngleeson4736
@anngleeson4736 Ай бұрын
Our Ciel took his brother's place for power and the Earldom. That being said, his first wish before that was for Ciel. That thing that the Undertaker is pretending is Ciel isn't Ciel. Sebastian informed Our Ciel that Ciels soul is gone too summon him it was sacrificed. But the complete abandonment of God is why he wants to give his power to Our Ciel. That's a reanimated corpse. I'm not sure what's in it, but it's not Ciel. Shame on Undertaker for desecration off what's left off Ciel and for putting Our Ciel through this. The worst part is that this all-powerful Undertaker didn't save them. Oh, he's tied to their family, so he knew where they were but abandoned them. I hope Sebastian ends him in the most painful way possible. Lizzy was loved more by Our Ciel he loved her for her. Not for what he wanted her to be. She is nothing but a idiot to fall for a corpse and a evil shit.
@chimauzlol326
@chimauzlol326 4 жыл бұрын
So it’s true that Ciel has a twin
@eavioli
@eavioli 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who didn't like Elizabeth since she showed up??? I mean it's confirmed that she was a betrayer after all. Even she spend most of her years with 'fake' Ciel but still can call him a liar. Isn't that too rude??I actually never liked her thought(don't hate meh) =^._.^= ∫
@stampoulisrafail7836
@stampoulisrafail7836 4 жыл бұрын
How would you feel if the person you are in love with,isnt realy the one you loved but just an impostor.
@pleasedontlookforme8036
@pleasedontlookforme8036 4 жыл бұрын
@@stampoulisrafail7836 true, she spent all those years admiring our!ciel believing he was real!ciel. But they sure as hell don't have the same personality, even if ciel was trying to mirror him. So clearly her love isn't based on the admiration of a specific person - it's based one whoever is real!ciel. That's not real love. You can't love somebody just because they are the "real" ciel and and then no longer love them because you realised they aren't the "real" ciel. If she really loved real!ciel like she said she did she would have stopped loving him when _'he came back'_ because even if she didn't know that our!ciel was pretending to be real!ciel, his personality still did a fucking 180° - even if that was the real ciel he would have practically been a different person. She doesn't deserve our!ciel and she has repeatedly shown that throughout the show. Fuck you Lizzy. Our!ciel deserves better.
@stampoulisrafail7836
@stampoulisrafail7836 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontlookforme8036 Its Ciel's fault he lied to her and everyone else.
@pleasedontlookforme8036
@pleasedontlookforme8036 4 жыл бұрын
@@stampoulisrafail7836 sorry, my comment wasn't clear enough - lizzy does not love real ciel - she thinks she does, but she doesn't. If she loved real ciel, then that day 3 years ago when our ciel came back pretending to be real ciel would have been the last time she loved him. Why? Because even if at that time instead of our ciel coming back alive, it was real ciel, the ciel who Lizzy loved (confident, bubbly and outgoing) would have changed so much that he could hardly have been considered the same person. When you love someone, you love their personality, that is why people get divorced when a spouses personality changes. However Lizzy's "love" is not based on personality, but on whomever is her fiancé. That is to say, her love is based on identity. That can hardly be considered love. And the reason why her fickle "love" changes depending on the identity of the person is because her "love" is not love at all - it is denial. She wants to believe that she loves the man whom she will marry, and so she keeps lying to herself. She can't accept that she has been forced into an unwanted engagement since she was too young to understand what love is, so instead she kept lying to herself, telling herself that she loved ciel, untill that love became a "truth" - however that truth was very fragile, as we all saw, and with the switching of real ciel and our ciel, we can see just how self centered and disgusting she really is. In a way she is pitiful, but she's pitiful to the point where it is pathetic. On top of her pathetic state she has an annoying personality that would drive anyone up the wall. She is honestly such a hateful girl. And yes, our ciel did lie, however he lied because he knew that her, and everyone else, would have not wanted him to live, but his older brother instead. Think about it, have you ever heard any of the characters that supposedly knew our ciel since young mention our ciel to the boy himself believing he was real ciel? Nope, nobody ever brings up our ciel even once. Nobody missed him - including bitch Elizabeth.
@kaltheeaa9432
@kaltheeaa9432 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontlookforme8036 ᑭ👏ᖇ👏ᗴ👏ᗩ👏ᑕ👏ᕼ i even took a screenshot of your reply, it's just well explained.
@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331
@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331 2 жыл бұрын
Simple don’t marry either you’re kids.
@twstroastmemesfortoxicfans5705
@twstroastmemesfortoxicfans5705 3 жыл бұрын
This is my theory but, if Lizzy were to refuse to know the truth and stick on to the Real Ciel, *She will die.* I'm not sure about it, but the illustration of her being one of the corpses laid on Our Ciel's throne might give a hint.
@yumimaramouto
@yumimaramouto 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, if the twin who died is the 'real' Ciel, then what was the name of the other twin? Why is it that I can't find the damn name ANYWHERE!?!?!??!?! Why is the manga being so damn secretive about the name?
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 theories on why his name isn't being revealed- 1: He was so overshadowed by Ciel that it's like the book and movie Rebecca where all we know *IS* Ciel but not out main character. Possibly showing just how bad our!Ciel's sense of self worth is. 2: We have been told his name already but we just don't know it. It's possible Sirius is his name. (Ciel's cult name, likely using it as bait for his brother) All we know about our!Ciel's name is that it's not a traditional British name as someone meeting Vincent in a flashback said "Your *sons* have unusual names for this country."
@ailamatias1382
@ailamatias1382 4 жыл бұрын
Ciel is still ciel but ciel sell his soul to the demon to take revenge
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 4 жыл бұрын
Okay so: The Ciel we've been watching and who Sebastian is contracted to is not the real Ciel Phantomhive. His real name has not been given but for now you can call him the Spare. The real Ciel Phantomhive was killed by the cult to summon Sebastian who would obviously go on to form a contract with the spare. Yana Toboso has commented on this confusion because of this twist and she wasn't very helpful about it because she currently can't give the spare's name out just yet so just call the fake Ciel as the spare / Our!Ciel and the real one as Real!Ciel
@ailamatias1382
@ailamatias1382 4 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu is it true that ciel have a twin ???
@Ana-vv4to
@Ana-vv4to 4 жыл бұрын
@@ailamatias1382 yeah
@wutyouwant6549
@wutyouwant6549 3 жыл бұрын
AHHHHHHHH
@paydasheenajean
@paydasheenajean 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I want to ask where can I read this season in manga?
@user-lr9ih5sy5g
@user-lr9ih5sy5g 4 жыл бұрын
My image of her is ruined I just wanna know what happened she does after
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
0:24 woah..female Tanaka???
@animeyukiomalayalam6882
@animeyukiomalayalam6882 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@maryammohammad4612
@maryammohammad4612 2 жыл бұрын
Black Butler Kuroshitsuji "Ciel Phantomhive brother Ciel Phantomhive Ciel Phantomhive brother "Ciel Phantomhive "Ciel Phantomhive twin brother Ciel Phantomhive Ciel Phantomhive twin brother "Ciel Phantomhive Ciel 💞"Ciel "Ciel 💞 Ciel Ciel💖"Ciel "Ciel💖 Ciel Phantomhive family 4
@THENIGHTCOREHOPE
@THENIGHTCOREHOPE 5 жыл бұрын
Yooo can't marry yoo cousin I ship Ceil and Sebastian
@WeebaLu
@WeebaLu 5 жыл бұрын
You ship a 13 year old child with a demon who had canonically taken the form of a man in his late 20's and chose to look like his father? You do you but pedophilia is disgusting. (incest is too obviously but I'd rather have that then a CHILD with an ADULT)
@cctruong3866
@cctruong3866 5 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu yea u rite. Shipping a 13 year old boy with reaaaallly older dude is absolutely disgusting. It's not fucking cute. Its down right gross and disturbing
@cctruong3866
@cctruong3866 5 жыл бұрын
@@WeebaLu totally agree with you^^^
@Hanako-San100
@Hanako-San100 4 жыл бұрын
Ciel and Lizzy are cousins???
@Anxious_Millie
@Anxious_Millie 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hanako-San100 yes but back in the 1800's it was normal to marry family
@Merlin-hr8fp
@Merlin-hr8fp 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I love both the fake and real ciel idk why but I feel like my heart belongs to the real not the fake sorry if I offended anyone
@itznickzplayz6496
@itznickzplayz6496 3 жыл бұрын
Uhh how come? Just wanna ask... since he does kill a hundreds of people just to keep himself alive isn't it kind of selfish?
@Furina1811
@Furina1811 3 жыл бұрын
Chapter??
@nagi-san2877
@nagi-san2877 4 жыл бұрын
Conversation in comment section is too hot......! I can't follow it😂. Whatever it is, I watch/read kuroshitsuji is becuz of Demonic Genre And Badass Cute Mey Rin. Prefer wrote that way 🚦.
@mysticalkeyblade759
@mysticalkeyblade759 4 жыл бұрын
Lizzie should just not go for any and this volume made me hate her for betraying our Ciel. Also she’s kind of selfish and she needs to just open up and be herself and her parents need to stop putting all this pressure on her
@sunnysong9122
@sunnysong9122 Жыл бұрын
WHICH CHAPTER IS THIS I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR AGES
@galexienacua2895
@galexienacua2895 4 жыл бұрын
Where can i see the manga pls?
@galexienacua2895
@galexienacua2895 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much
@akiraaihara428
@akiraaihara428 4 жыл бұрын
@@galexienacua2895 no problem
@nadia_supremacy3767
@nadia_supremacy3767 4 жыл бұрын
I'm SO confused..Can somebody PLEASE explain.. ;-;
@ninithehunter9117
@ninithehunter9117 4 жыл бұрын
Omg this is spoiler from the manga ... RUN RUN RUN
@janethmedina7441
@janethmedina7441 2 жыл бұрын
Can't say I feel too sorry for her. I didn't forget how they treated Our Ciel in the past..nah..nah.. this is karma that finally bit them I think.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what fake Ciel's karma is after killing all the innocent circus victims?
@janethmedina7441
@janethmedina7441 Жыл бұрын
@@happilyevernever4289 Fake Ciel? At least he accomplished things even with his butlers but he actually treated people and haven't you ever considered what Circus Members did was probably personal too poor "OUR" Ciel not "Fake" Ciel we have been watching Our Ciel longer, don't tell me your gonna start treating him differently just because we now he has twin bruh 😒
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
@@janethmedina7441 I was not talking about circus members, I was talking about the kids that the circus people kidnapped. Lol I've been consuming kuro content longer than u it seems. I've been well aware of 2Ciel theory before it was confirmed to be true since I've been reading manga for quite some time. So I don't know what you're yapping about. Our Ciel, fake Ciel, all the same to me.
@janethmedina7441
@janethmedina7441 Жыл бұрын
@@happilyevernever4289 I think he said that he spared them, he said that he knew kid's like those and that he knew that they will be normal or whatever.
@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Жыл бұрын
@@janethmedina7441 what he said is his opinion. It doesn't change the fact that he burned them alive without trying to see if anyone of them atleast can be saved. Ofcourse I understand the reasoning somewhat, but that action still falls under murky morals. So there's no sugar coating what he did was dubious.
@annagilbert1569
@annagilbert1569 2 жыл бұрын
What chapter is this?
@pandora3586
@pandora3586 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone give me a link where I can read chapter 167 of Black Butler? I don’t seem finding it! ;(
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