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isn’t all that happened was that the group was supposed to debut but didn’t? or am i missing something completely.

@@hey-gd6wp yes , but they didn't Debut because of dirty things

​@hey-gd6wp one member got into a scandal and left then they decided to disband the whole group

You can't call it disbandment when they never had a debut. The only thing they did was canceling the project. No one kicked these trainees. Some stayed, some left. It's their decision @@dixi-chan6410

EXACTLY

it started when Min Hee Jin started ADOR that a lot of BigHit staff were transferred to other labels like Source Music and ADOR.

@@azusa0421source? Where did you get this info?

top comment fr🫡

LITERALLY when I seen I was literally in disbelief bc they can’t even manage the one group that’s active rn

TONE DEAF** not deaf

​​@@angsilaw oh right

WHY DID YOU ONLY HEAR THE DEAF PART IM DYINGGG😭😭

KPOP STANS ARE GETTING WILD 😭😭😭

there is a deaf kpop group though. Look it up, it is actually a real thing

BigHit has only TXT as their active group. Wdym?

@@azusa0421the recent stages show that even as the only active group, BigHit doesn’t pay a lot of attention to TXT, along with the lack of promotion… it’s just one group, yet BH can’t handle it. Why debut another??

@@azusa0421Bighit is literally HYBE, HYBE has already debut a ton a groups under their sub lables in the span of 4 years (which is a lot considering they're not initially part of the Big 3 Ents) Not to mention bighit can't even promote TXT even with the absence of BTS and their soloist. A new group is not what they need.

@@Skye00000 thank you! you word it so nicely

@@Skye00000 I don't think BigHit isn't paying attention to TXT. They just have shorter music show appearances or shorter promotion time in SK because they have been focusing more on their world tours and how they are being marketed in the West. TXT has been around since 2019, with them reaching their peak and without a definite comeback for BTS, BigHit Music will need another group to market for a different audience. That's just how the industry works.

I need an explanation of their situation so bad but I guess we’ll never get it..

Did the company really do that or did the members themselves? They were a rather problematic group, starting with the tiktok that “how grateful they were for not having to hand out flyers on the street” and the misogynist and sexist song of one of the members. It’s good that unnecessary controversies were spared because of their disgusting behavior.

But I think it’s due to what happened with Leo. Leo seemed to be a core member and after he left it was like so should they continue? I also wish Trainee A would’ve gone ahead but what can we do now? We can just hope that other boys from Trainee A like James (was last seen as JKs back up dancer for Seven in SK) join them. Plus at least now the other boys from Trainee A are starting to come out as either solo or in groups. Like Leo went solo in a different label, JJ seems to be a trainee in SM, Jihoon debuted under HYBE in TWS, etc.

They didn't. Y'all act like u know the behind story. You don't know if after Leo scandal the group couldn't stand again or maybe the artist were disturbed and wanted to leave. Y'all act like you know everything Everyone including me wanted them to debut but maybe if they had after the scandal it might just be worse and be GLAM 2.0 We don't know so don't judge

How did u know The same fans like you blamed hybe for garam leaving forgetting hybe did their best to keep her but toxic fans (haters) just had too... And now I'm seeing in some comments that HYBE did lsrfm dirty and hated garam??? Like u mean the same HYBE that refused to let her go for 2 months and put on hiatus than let her go, the same hybe that started investigation and released statements supporting her

Hybe stans don't wanna hear that 😂

​@@oishyzaman5513 Idk but as a Hybe stan all the hybe stans/MOAs I talk with want TXT to rest and to stop touring sl much 😭

The way Jin went to military when Enhypen was on tour... Jin came back already and Enha is still on tour.

@@jaehwa8544once you start being greedy about money there is no limit

Enha also bro...they have a world tour going on and just had an album, "memorabilia" and now the full length album 🙂👏 (not complaining that they're having comebacks but they literally need rest bro)

@@jaehwa8544 Big Hit is just as bad as hybe when it comes to focusing on dance over vocals. I love both BTS and TXT, but their dance skills heavily overshadow their vocals. I mean ffs JK carries BTS vocally with V - their subvocal with a limited range - coming in second. I've followed both groups since debut and love them dearly, but I can whole heartedly say that Big Hit did not give either group the vocal training they need.

LMFAOO

@@_ksm0922personally, I think txt are fine in terms of dance and vocals. They are seriously just overworked and have been since their first tour after those online concerts

@@_ksm0922 IMO one of the reasons why BTS works even though most of the members do not have strong vocals is because those that do not contribute vocally, are strong rappers, producers and lyricists. And these traits overshadow their weaknesses in singing. And the beginning of their career they had songs that suit their voices. But this doesn't work on more commercial groups that HYBE is producing nowadays.

@@burntsolis3942 yeah but as an idol group, they shouldn’t have weak vocalists. Music is about singing, not dancing. You can musical performances without dancing, but you can’t have them without singing. So for BTS to have weak vocalists especially 11 years in is inexcusable, and because so many of their fan base just doesn’t care, HYBE is going to take that as “oh, well clearly fans don’t care about vocals so let’s just train dancers first.”

That can be the name of the group 😂

What💀when hybe has iconic boy groups and biggest kpop group. Nj and fromis are also good. Even illit proved their vocal recently. Leserafim improved🤷‍♀️

Ofc you feel that way. You're a fan. 😂 ​@@nikitamuskan2962

Imagine they name it TDDG 💀

@@nikitamuskan2962 I'm just quoting a commenter..

compared to other labels, theyre really not that bad

​@@rmcrave651That's not true. Even yg debuted girls that can sing with baemon. I think they're the worst of the worst even with how badly other companies are at management and mistreatment and lack of proper promo. Btw this all started last year with the solo live encore of bts jimin who is a lead vocalist. Now we've had lsf, txt, ilt live encores that have also verged on tone deaf. After a certain point, the problem is a company problem. These are also the groups managed by bang. Compare nj f9 and svt who are actually very talented as singers from hybe but managed by others. I really think they're ruining these kids and using them as shields because hybe can always debut new groups. Hopefully, individually these members decide to invest in themselves and hire vocal coaches because they have the right foundation

​​@@pikachu7572 nah, dont drag txt in the untalented group, they had ONE bad encore and netizens suddenly forget about their past perfect performances. But tbh, other than talent training, hybe's treatment for their artists isnt as bad as other big companies, especially Sm.

​@@jeonghanlovesjoshua lmao u don't want your txt to drag with untalented group But u still drag sm ? Yep sm (was) famous for mistreatment But I wonder which entertainment the worst in (last two year) Definitely not sm

@@actuallynotaperson5846 didnt say sm artists were untalented tf? Haa, not sure, ask red velvet & nct, let's see what they say 😁 Do u need reminding which company literally collab with starbucks? "was"? Its definitely an "is" Lol🤣

They even removed txt promotion team in 2021 and fired txt stylist

Fr that's why we moas are telling on every txt post #STOP_MISTREATING_TXT

​@@Aelist12GIRL IT'S STOP MSTREATING TXT 😭😭

@@aaaaaaaafjjdjs I AM SO SORRY 😭

Over working them Since Their last comeback

@@jaehwa8544 even before BTS went on hiatus they were working like crazy. Even BTS was being worked to the bone....

TXT has been around for over 5 years wdym?

@@MewDenise hybe groups aren't given proper care and are basically worked to the bone... And few groups have rushed debuts and aren't given enough training..

@@MewDenise hybe group are not given enough safety measures for their safety during travels and shoots and are basically worked to the bone... And many have rushed dabuts and aren't given enough training....

​@@sonalibose81 spoiler BTS worked that hard bc they decided to. They love being musicians and work when they wanna work

Fr bighit groups has the best vocals

​​@@armymidzy1lmao no they don't. They arent even in top 10. Hybe is overrated. Fatman bang is a scam artist

HYBE had good girl groups too, honestly people are just throwing a hissy fit because Le Sserafim and IllIt cant sing except for like two members. All but two groups from HYBE have stable vocals and there is like over 10, my expectations haven't changed honestly.

@@armymidzy1 you mean they are stable because txt enhypen even bts arent vocally strong

@@Manchis123 excuse me are you being fr right now first of all I'm talking about bighit groups bts and txt they have the strongest vocals in hybe enhypen is not under bighit and Idk which nugu group you Stan that give the audacity to say BTS AND TXT are not strong vocals you need to get a mental and ear check up make sure you are OK cuz a healthy person won't say such bullshit💋

@@jaehwa8544 exactly. theyre being overworked and at the same time not being promoted properly for the work they HAVE done.

people like to group hybe and bighit together as if hybe isnt MULTIPLE labels all under the same corporation

@@ariannaramirez15 everyone is doing like it according to their prefrence like if they want to compliment other groups they'll say it's a different company under a multilable ent company and has nothing to do with it however when have to criticize then they are all in one

heavenly voices lol you've clearly never heard lesserafim

@@nanami464 read the comment properly I said bighit not source music or belift lab

@@nanami464 bighit, not source music? you fearnots obviously dont know how to read. Why would moas and armys praise ur talentless favs

when literally bighit artist are good but ofc absent minded ppl will keep labeling all of them all as "HYBE artist" and drag the artist whom is actually good T T

As if that isn’t the definition of Stray Kids

​@@offstage7 U DID NAWTTTT💀💀

now why is a stay talking… 😭

brushed under the rug by kpop stans AND their own company lmao. they deserve better

What’s the trouble? You mean Ador and Hybe? In Hybe’s defense it’s not their fault one of their CEOs is a psychotic manipulative toxic greedy backstabbing shaman worshipping woman trying to destroy Hybe. All and all, Hybe has a good track record with boy groups so I really don’t think Hybe is the problem here.

At this point, whoever auditions in HYBE and seems pretty good will be selected,expected to train themselves and debut in a blink of an eye. The way HYBE is debuting groups like they're handing out grapes, I'm pretty sure they will debut all their trainees and start looking for more 😂😂

Anyone who has made it into HYBE is actually doing good

Same 💀

Trueeee😭💗

It's not hybes fault a member got in scandal and he was face of the group. Later the group faced some problems. So it's better to disband them.

@@nikitamuskan2962 Well true but I'm upset because I've followed Trainee A since they were first announced 😭 not just because HYBE disbanded them

@@nikitamuskan2962 Exactly it's like people can't be satisfied no matter what. imagine if they had debuted with the member then people would have harassed him and the group also blamed the company. and eventually would have made him drop out. this is better than all that drama.

Bonedo is KILLING it ong, but on the topic of trainee a, I really hope we get to see jj debut one day!! He was really a powerhouse in dance

OMG WELL SAID 👏👏

@@Snowgulp 😁

Not some group only leserafim coz illit proved that they aren't bad vocalist and people are now praising them. Even leserafim is improving now

@@nikitamuskan2962 really? I'm so happy to hear it ☺️

Haha. Funny joke

Me too

Fr ❤

Contact HYBE America then.

@@Bunny_xoxo. lol 😂

idk they seem like REALLY genz and i cant handle that but still rooting

Yeah exactly

Everyone leaves out Seventeen it’s annoying

@@therealmuyani17 isnt a bighit group, theyre pledis

2 out of 1000?

​@@goldenhourss it's a bighit music audition....... BIGHIT MUSIC GROUPS ARE ONLY BTS AND TXT.......are some of y'all genuinely this mf slow and braind3ad

Because they do NOT realize that. People hear hybe and fail to understand that there are many labels under the company each label with different training and management. Also despite the fact that out of all the labels there are only 2 groups who are not good in singing live and the rest generally don't have problems with that people start acting as if all of the artists under all of the labels are incapable of singing.

@@cornelia4838 it so annoying how trendy misinformation and generalization has become 😭

​@@cornelia4838 Exactly, with all the misinformation a lot of kpoopies and big 3 stans are on their high horse dragging all the groups under HYBE.

honestly! like all the boy groups in hybe have not had any issues with singing but i don’t wanna jinx them 😭🤞

Yea tbh I feel so bad for hype bgs there always accused for have bad vocals and they literally have such a strong vocal line

@@ArrrriiThe problem ppl have is that Hybe keeps pushing out these new groups damn there every month but the current groups they already have now needs serious help and training and instead of focusing on that they’re getting ready to debut another group

​@@ssnation6401 they literally give mistreatments to almost many groups under their own labels it sucks bro

Yeah exactly people are ridiclous

Imagine having a main vocalist that strains G4, ye that’s TXT's main vocalist for u

Don't bring Svt in this, they didn't train with Hybe, they were already amazing before☠️☠️

@@Verowinday777 dude he is still stable txt can sing

@@sanazamir8341 so? stability is not everything, it just shows that u have a good stamina, not good singing abilities.

​@@jaehwa8544yeah ifc sorry for saying it wrong

illit and lesserafim may struggle sometimes but they generally have good vocals, NewJeans have good vocals especially for the songs they make, fromis has amazing vocals, and katseye seems to have great vocalists too,,, I’d say some of the boy groups have had just as many struggling moments as illit and lesserafim have, maybe not seventeen though.

@@lovesick3317 girl have you heard txts vocals cause

@@AnnikaMuelleri haven’t, but i feel like lesserafim and illit seem like they struggle more than average because of the fact that girl groups are more popular with the general public, so people talk about them more

@@lovesick3317 its deff illits and lesserafims companies fault but hybes bgs have amazing vocals

They didn't disband them bcz they are there next big thing but leo situation going bad bcz k media already renuied his image

​@@user-ik8oo5wo6z k media doesn't care if yoh say n word Kmedia actually had less problem with that Leo already debuted There are many misunderstandings Hybe did that cause they thought those boys weren't much a catch even tho even dancer JJ was vocally decent Jo wocchan is hella good rapper Jiwoon is already under pledis tws has decent vocals Trainee A was great but they didn't debut them

@@oishyzaman5513 girl you need to check again bcz bighit and hybe promoting them as next big thing and they has strong big fandom even before debut even army supporting them as little brothers and i stan them at that time I Know how k media create there image and even bcz of media leo was in depression and then he leaves group

@@user-ik8oo5wo6zleo is a soloist now and he doesnt get in trouble no more💀👍

@@toxicforenha I Know in 2023 he joined new company

That doesn’t makeup for the fact that Bts and txt are incredibly weak vocally and played a big part in lowering the vocal standards for kpop

Wtf says who? You? Unlike other kpop groups, they actually perform live. Yall seriously playin bts right now. as if they are not know for amazing live performances and concerts 💀

@@dibidibidis3367 you know what they are kpop idols, who need to be good in all the fields of performance not excelling just one thing. And they are good enough. I sing, so I do known.

@@starrysky6721 yes ik they perform live and are hella good and dedicate to their job, thats the most imp thing.

@@not.gonna_tellya "good enough" still low standard

@@jaehwa8544WHO? WHO? LEO? BYE BYE💀

They could never make me forget. Oh my boys :,(

I think it's stans from others companies tbh... It became a fanwar at this point lol

hahahaha

@@lululittlebox What's funny

No one's saying that the group would be on talented necessarily I feel like that's more joking. It's more that this company kind of sucks at their management they only have two boy groups under this particular label that they're talking about and they're barely able to promote both of them at the same time. They're either completely focused on BTS and kind of forget that TXT even exist. Even with them being the only active group under the sub-level at the moment because all of the BTS members are in the army they still seem to kind of lack in the way that they're promoting and or pushing the group. Hell most of us who have been fans of BTS since the beginning know for a fact that the company is always had an issue with knowing how to promote in the first place like armies were carrying that shit on their back in the very beginning. If it wasn't for us pushing the boys and constantly sharing videos and creating English captions for videos and shit they wouldn't have gotten pushed as much as they were like I genuinely forget that some people who joined the fandom later on just don't understand that the company isn't the best at advertising it at all they never have been it was always the fans pushing and I feel like people also forget how powerful that is when you have fans backing up a group even if the company doesn't like Loona is a great example of fans pushing a group and doing shit or even if you look at like Block B or is there a successor / younger brother group Ateez even with the company's backing them it was the fans that pushed it Forward enough for them to become more well-known and more popular from fans sharing the content and things. That's the issue they need to learn how to manage more than one group before they start trying to debut more groups

honestly though not really, Bts has one of the weakest vocal lines of 3rd Gen, for boy groups id honestly say they’re bottom 5. Txt’s best singer, yeonjun is under average. Txt also has one of the weakest vocal lines for boy groups in general. Yes their voices sound nice, but they aren’t good singers.

@dibidibidis3367 I'm not looking for the crazy high notes out of nowhere or the forced vibrato. Not into the singers or groups that have something to prove. I'm into the soft, melodious, beautiful voices that bts and especially txt offer. I like tone and emotions. Really into TXTs voices in particular. But to each their own. To me, when it's too much, it's headache inducing.

@@TheIsaiah1992 You’re not looking for the forced vibrato? If that were the case you wouldn’t like Bts or txt, because that’s what the majority of both groups extended notes and high notes make up of. You’re really just proving my point more. You like their natural voices, that doesn’t make them any better of singers. Both groups have little to no technique to offer. They aren’t trying to prove anything because they have little to no non natural skills to offer.

@dibidibidis3367 I'm just not hearing the forced vibrato you speak of. What are your favorite groups that sound good to you

@@jaehwa8544 Yes, I think the criticism is towards female groups, companies are focusing on the girls being pretty but are lacking in the voice and dance department

​@@Misakininbo which girl group? bighit don't have girl group. They only have two group bts and txt so which girl group are you talking about

@@super_geto I said companies in general, I'm not pointing fingers to an specific one

Yeah you can tell as soon as BTS went to the military Txt has had no break …

Lol

Lol

You clearly don't know what good live singing means then.... Good live singing doesn't mean a ton of backtrack.

@@Verowinday777 What's funny

They'll bring stupid rumours that happened to defend hybe for disbanding them Those company stans are making me feel sick

​@@oishyzaman5513not a company stan but calling their grps a 'tone deaf dance grp' is disrespectful to other existing ones..but I won't lie they did traniee A so dirty probably becuse of k netizens being so anti at leo misogynist lyric..idk you can seech it up

Netizens cancelled a member so the project shut down cause he was THE core member

@@MewDenise yea I netizens are always making shi up and they clearly didn’t like the fact the members weren’t fully korean (as ALWAYS) and hybe didn’t even try to defend him like..?

Nj aren't carrying nothing lmaoo

@@user-vv7hc7kb5obut they are though especially talent wise lol they are one of the VERY FEW hybe groups especially girl group who can do at least the bare minimum…

It's bts, svt, txt and ENHYPEN who are carrying the lebel. Njs is successful but not enough for carrying a whole big lebel.

Joke of the year "NJ carrying the company" 😂😂😂 more like payola pants being carried by Hybe from bgs money 😂😂😂 Bro after BTS the most revenue is generated by TXT and SVT and after that comes enha so sit back your bunny little @ss down 😂

Newjeans can f off

fromis 9 is from peldis and katseye is from Geffen. Bighit only have two group bts and txt so what do you mean by more group? 😭 2 group is not a lot

TXT and BTS are under bighit so maybe the new group is under bighit too , en- is be:lift i think

@@soumyaprajith4710 oh I'm stupid

Bighit is a label under Hybe

@@Niki_thebear oh 😬

​@@Sofiebarnsey22 lol :))

someone with low standards

​@@lululittlebox don't be such toxic please. Everyone have preference. If you want to comment atleast comment something nicely.

@@lululittlebox Let's be realistic here. Even your idols have flaws. If they don't, then they must not be humans nor even AI. They must be a god then. Commenting aggressively like this wouldn't change that your view of the world and how it works is narrow.

It's true though in HYBE only seventeen vocalline can considered good while other are just average.Like compare main vocalist of hybe group to any vocal group,the gap is very big

@@chetnaprajapati8972 Only seventeen is above average? Girl bffr, Fromis_9 is too, TxT as well, Enhypen, TWS, and BND, and when GLAM and Gfriend were around they were also and BTS has several members that could be considered above average. Because average is being stable. Also not to mention I never originally said anyone was above average, you don't have to be Mariah Carey to be considered a good singer. Like Hyein of NewJeans is already being praised because of her vocals in her collaboration with IU. The gap being big doesn't matter. The expectation is for them to be able to sing and dance with stability and y'all are still trying to bring down HYBE groups when they can do that. I hate to say this but yeah, y'alls expectations are too high.

The expectations can never be too high, although some of the old groups that were well established are good, some weren't even under hybe during their debut and for the most recent ones it's just passable, there are some members you I don't even know what they do in the groups because they don't add anything important

@@Willis_skz expectations can be too high though, when a new group debuts you’re not gonna expect them to sound the best, you just expect them to be stable. Some of y’all are comparing them to artists who sound like they could be Beyoncè’s kid. Which is too high, as long as their vocals aren’t weak everything is fine.

@Bunny_xoxo. idols train for 7 to 8 years like Seulgi and Jihyo and who are now both main dancer and main vocalist at the same time, and more recent examples baemon who are super stable or even nmixx even with much less years of training , so how does an agency like hybe with money to have the best coaches manage to have incapable trainees at there debut?

Singing isn't equal to being vocalist and except seventeen no group in HYBE has good vocalline or proper good vocalist