Fans of older Dynasty Warriors will be disappointed..

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Koei Kollection

Koei Kollection

Күн бұрын

Recently I asked the community to provide their predictions & piping hot & spicy hot takes for the upcoming Dynasty Warriors Origins release.
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0:00 Intro
0:55 Really sick of CAWs
2:25 Brain-dead peons
3:47 There'll be no Free Mode
4:39 Dong Zhuo
4:48 Branching paths, Bladestorm & DW, weapon systems & reused assets
6:54 Xu Shu
7:29 New character speculation
8:55 Fans of the older games will be disappointed, state of play, & cutting characters
10:43 Dynasty Warriors Origins wishlist
12:06 No two-player splitscreen, character release method & DLC discussion
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@xKlein_
@xKlein_ 19 күн бұрын
maybe it's gonna be like DW4, where you could either play with your CAW or the Original Cast, which was a really great idea tbh
@ermong8124
@ermong8124 14 күн бұрын
Dw4 was the best in my opinion
@Stenchovies
@Stenchovies 8 күн бұрын
@@ermong8124 4 was great, but I also loved 5's Destiny Mode. Wish they'd bring this back. 3 has a special place in my heart, because it was the first one I played.
@puffin310
@puffin310 18 күн бұрын
We need a warriors game where 500 kills feels like ALOT. It’s crazy how I am already getting 3000 kills on level 1. It takes the gratitude of getting that 1 in 100 games where you go HAM for 1K+ kills, where I don’t get that 4 digit number unless it’s been a true epic to get there
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
In Dynasty Warriors 2, 3 and 4 that was alot of Kills
@scratch7971
@scratch7971 18 күн бұрын
Dynasty warriors with mount and blade elements would be nuts
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
Dynasty Warriors 2 Characters had Better Mount Attack Damage than Dynasty Warriors 3 Characters.
@UdGin0
@UdGin0 14 сағат бұрын
@@hurricane7727 mount and blade is a game, he's not on about mounted combat
@Renderc4t
@Renderc4t 19 күн бұрын
I wouldn't mind weak peons as long as the stronger versions like lieutenants, guard captains etc are meaningfully more capable in combat. They need to be more than just trash with a higher HP pool.
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
In Dw3 Xl Bodyguards had Lv3 Weapons and Dynasty Warriors 2 Bodyguards can fight and were strong
@Valseil
@Valseil 19 күн бұрын
Okay, no one said it, I will. Bring back the "I AM THE TRUE WARRIOR OF THE THREE KINGDOMS!" after killing 1k enemies. And please make the troops very skilled and agressive when morale is high, and vice versa, I love that system. Bring back the duel system, I love the one from dw6, very adrenaline pumping! And bring mobile unit captain back, make em stronger, love those guys 🤣
@Valseil
@Valseil 19 күн бұрын
bring back personal bodyguard system!
@NoelJohnCarlo
@NoelJohnCarlo 17 күн бұрын
Bring back the Original English Voice Actors, if you want to keep the same voice actors from DW9. At least make them sound better!
@hojukimchi1412
@hojukimchi1412 17 күн бұрын
Hopefully the morale system is more revamped too, it makes strategic fighting more enjoyable
@Valseil
@Valseil 17 күн бұрын
@@NoelJohnCarlo oh god english speaking lu bu yesssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@NoelJohnCarlo
@NoelJohnCarlo 17 күн бұрын
@@Valseil Make Jamieson Price Lu Bu's Voice Actor again!
@queenniamh
@queenniamh 18 күн бұрын
The idea of a battle pass in DW sounds even worse than the current DLC model imo. At least with the DLC I don't feel pressured to log in every day with for fear of missing out on the battle pass rewards, and can instead play on my own time
@radhiteaji631
@radhiteaji631 18 күн бұрын
we need the likes of Liao Hua on each kingdom, who narrates the story of the kingdom from the start to an end, Liao Hua could become the narrator for Shu stories as he's the one who see Shu from when they are born, into their demise, for wu, it can be Lu Xun or a brand new character, for wei, you can took the point of view of Sima Yi or Cao Shuang
@DweebLord
@DweebLord 18 күн бұрын
Shu could be Jian Yong into Jiang Wei. Wu could be Zhu Zhi into Lu Xun Wei could be Cao Hong into Sima Yi.
@radhiteaji631
@radhiteaji631 14 күн бұрын
@@DweebLord for shu, the most suitable still Liao Hua, since Koei loves Guan Yu centric character, and Liao Hua in romance three kingdoms novel are one of Guan Yu retainer, and his story of faking his death to escape from Wu when he get captured after Mai castle are one of the most impressive display of loyalty to shu
@mickieg1994
@mickieg1994 19 күн бұрын
I really want this game to be a mix of 6 and 4, with more story elements and a refined combat/battle system. Massive battles and thousands of units onscreen is awesome but wont mean much if we end up with braindead ai. If the main story is all about the created character but with the ability to play from the perspective of any other character, i think that will be a great way of having a concise, replayable story, without losing out on free mode. multiple narratives, unique stages for some characters and having stages change depending on the outcomes of previous battles aswell as which character you are playing as, would be a super fun addition to the game.
@ChaolaoFueChi
@ChaolaoFueChi 15 күн бұрын
I would also like the directions they've had with DW7's storytelling. It was really good, Cao Cao's death bed, Liu Bei's rage, etc.
@mickieg1994
@mickieg1994 15 күн бұрын
@@ChaolaoFueChi I don' know much about 7, played for an hour or two and then traded the game in, just remember there was no free mode and the campaign was totally different from what i had played before.
@ChaolaoFueChi
@ChaolaoFueChi 15 күн бұрын
@mickieg1994 It's all good, it was more of a unfinished and just another experiment of a Gane that didn't even finish It's storytelling, 8 was just an upgrade but at the same time not much changed but was polished if anything.
@ChaolaoFueChi
@ChaolaoFueChi 15 күн бұрын
@mickieg1994 I'd recommend checking the cutscenes out for the ones I mentioned. It's good. Gave me the chills and made me question why they haven't they actually polish the storytelling in most of the games.
@Mikuroko69
@Mikuroko69 16 күн бұрын
I want there to be multiple storylines that allows replayability. Depending on what decisions we choose, we become the stratigist of shu for example. Taking over zhuge liang's spot is the best stratigist. Zhuge liang then has a different backstory since his canon story of being the stratigist is no longer. Instead of a Defeat screen, let us become captured, where we have to now work with the enemy and our commander/forces are sending messages trying to get us back. Allow us to be the one to rescue liu shan instead of zhao yun thus allowing zhao yun to be placed in a different province at the time and allowing shu to fight off against the enemy thanks to us being the one going back to save liu shan. Allow us to be the reinforcments for guan yu at fan castle where we either do or dont make it in time before his death.(They kinda did this what if with Xing Cai in DW5XL but i think it'll be cool to expand on) Somethings like that to change the story we once knew I think would be cool.
@megahobbit5972
@megahobbit5972 20 күн бұрын
No one is as critical of Dynasty Warriors as Dynasty Warriors fans. As we tend to know the series the best and im glad not everyone is blindly excited but cautious of DWO. The thing is this could be W-Force (The devs of The DW games) chance of redemption. Tecmo Koei has plenty of devs underneath them who pulled some great stunts like Nioh. So as a company they put more resources where its worth it. If W-Force fudges this one up they lose a lot of faith as 9 seemed to be the breaking point as is and 9 empires didnt make it better. The ball is in their court blow us away and see if you can garner that lost faith again W-Force. That aside we gotta get the first person who appears alphabetically on every Dynasty Warriors. Raise the spears for my guy AHUI NAN! He deserves to be brought as a unique dude! Btw the Dong Zhuo steamy relationship is needed maybe we can take him to the good side Overall dude was nice listening to some hot takes I read on the post as well and get your thoughts will be interesting for sure
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 19 күн бұрын
I think criticism is a sign of a pretty passionate audience in this case which is a great thing. Generally it seems like the consensus is cautious optimism, but it’s also totally fair if people are burnt out by this point. You hit the nail on the head 😁 they’ve whipped up great games like Nioh before, hopefully they’ll do it again with Origins 🤞🏼
@Abigdummy4life
@Abigdummy4life 19 күн бұрын
I can personally imagine Dong Zhongying just chilling on an island or peninsula under the sun....minding his own business and learning what real paradise is lol
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 19 күн бұрын
@Abigdummy4life hahahaha this made me chuckle😂
@cauliflowerconnoisseur2710
@cauliflowerconnoisseur2710 19 күн бұрын
personally i would love for the morale system from 3-5 to come back. it made taking out troops worthwhile. morale in 8 was pointless since the enemy could have no generals left but high morale bc of the never ending troops. bring back gate captains as well I just wanna see Guan yu's fictional children cut from the game as well. idc about them. i want characters that matter.
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
I like older dw ps2 Shu but dislike Ps4 dw8 Shu. All they talk about is Benevolence in dw8
@krazyknightmare7410
@krazyknightmare7410 18 күн бұрын
I just want all the weapons koie ever made and their charge attacks. Give us back old Gan Ning! Give us back the body guard system. Give us better mounts. Give us more items. Let us hold more than 2 weapons. Make the ai actually fight…. Like some generals you will have to avoid till you are leveled up. Or just take a page out of hell divers and deep rock when it comes to swarm combat. Also I really miss my orbs from dw3 and dw4 😢.
@ChaolaoFueChi
@ChaolaoFueChi 15 күн бұрын
I do miss the old weapons. They've maybe the same styles, mostly the spears, swords, and pikes. Like, Cao Cao, Liu Bei or Sun Jian having a single sword stance but different battle forms in attacking, Cao Cao l, Liu Bei, and Zhou Yu was my favorite sword users, Ma Chao and Zhou Yun were the best spear users, especially the basic generic officers styles. But I've git to say, DW6 visual actually had more background lighting and other stuff compared to the sort of bland colorings so far, DW9 playable officers had amazing and nearly true Chinese outfits, aside from DWE9... had enough with the outfit creation, the coloring system was pretty much more optional than Wo Long, or Ronin has.
@RenegadeVile
@RenegadeVile 18 күн бұрын
It honestly looks very, very gimmicky. And Omega Force does not do new mechanics well, almost ever. I don't understand what's so difficult about taking the story mode and more serious tone of 7, combining that with 8, and then adding in a lot of the cut story beats that were included in 9. Get as many of the original voice vast from 8 back. And then expand the mechanics. I've always liked the idea of characters having unique move inputs. So some characters have very lengthy normal strings with their charged attacks sprinkled in. Others have more compact move lists, but can chain their charged attacks more easily. Breaks up the monotony, and allows them to give each officer even more unique attacks. This is going to be yet another one step forward, three steps back story and it's going to push the series down a hole even more. I swear they're their own worst enemy, time and time again.
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
I think Dynasty Warriors 3 og data + Dw3 Xl is still the Best Dynasty Warriors games next to Dynasty Warriors 2 and 4Xl with Dw4 Original Data
@RenegadeVile
@RenegadeVile 13 күн бұрын
@@hurricane7727 I dno't know what my favorite is. I greatly enjoyed most of the main entries, often for other reasons. If I HAD to pick, I think DW7 was the best for me, because of the massively improved storytelling.
@SnowJester
@SnowJester 19 күн бұрын
DW3 was my first Warriors game back in the PS2 era and I've been a fan ever since until DW7 where I noticed they were starting to cut corners and the drop in quality. People were very critical of 6 back when it was released but it's still one of my favorite Warriors game (sue me), the graphics were great going from PS2 to PS3, the story was amazing with it's with if scenario, harder difficulties was actually challenging and not in a unfair way, controls were tight and combat was as amazing as DW5 if not better, VAs were great and the music were amazing. All I'm saying is DW6 had soul despite how critical the fan base was. DW dropped the ball for me where characters starts to feel like clones of each other when they're using the same weapons. DW8 might be the best modern DW game but I still felt the same issues it had with DW7. DW8 despite some of it's flaws, it's still one of my favorite DW game and I would place it in my top 5 DW games. I thought we might be back on track with 8 Xtreme Legends but then we get something like 9. I don't think we need to talk about DW9, we all know how that game turned out. 9 was the game that made me lose faith in the franchise as a whole. DWO gave me a glimmer of hope because I truly think this is what the series desperately needs, a reset button. I know people wants the series to go back to it's roots, be able to play as our favorite characters we know and love over the years and I do too. But listen, I'm a very simple man with very simple wishes. Here's what I want from DWO, if we're only gonna play as our CaW character then give them a proper personality with fully voice acted lines. If we get a silent protagonist, I'm instantly out. Let us choose factions to join and whichever faction we join will impact the outcome/story. Let our CaW character interact with characters from pervious games in meaningful ways. Give us Co-Op multiplayer and PvP where players control their own armies trying to take control over enemy territories. And if the combat plays just as good as it looks then I'm sold. Personally I don't mind if we don't get to play as historical figures, we can keep those for numbered titles like DW10 for example. And please for the love of god hire better VAs for the game.
@finalroar
@finalroar 14 күн бұрын
My prediction is that DW:O will likely merge aspects of DW and DWE. We'll likely get to play as our CAW and interact with the cast, marry our waifus, etc etc. But it'll follow the gameplay/story of a normal DW title, maybe with extra branching, what-if's or additional scenarios depending on what happens.
@hakikiwicaksana7231
@hakikiwicaksana7231 10 күн бұрын
for me, a combination of captivating stories of DW7 and combat system of DW8 is acceptable 😌
@blairwilliams3311
@blairwilliams3311 17 күн бұрын
i mean the dong zhuo love story needs to happen, that will be a must buy just for the laughs. but the real question is does dong zhuo want us to notice him?
@timmyshi9213
@timmyshi9213 Күн бұрын
I don't know if anyone has noticed that, starting from Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires, the producer of the Dynasty Warriors series has changed from Akihiro Suzuki, who produced 7-9, to Tomohiko Sho, the producer of Dynasty Warriors 6 and Fate/Samurai Remnant. Sho Tomohiko himself has repeatedly emphasized in interviews that he prefers the action-strategy genre of the old Dynasty Warriors. I think this time's Origins may be more like a complete version of Dynasty Warriors 6, and the difficulty will be increased, but not like older dynasty warriors, but more like Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires, which increases the difficulty by restricting players.
@nikolasweischner3560
@nikolasweischner3560 19 күн бұрын
I'm torn with you on the first comment. It's ALL going to depend on execution. Seeing the heroes play out through the eyes of an outsider could be pretty fun for some fictional story options. But if they don't do it well, it could easily be one of the worst experiences in the franchise. At least they're taking creative risks. Doing SOMETHING. These games could be some of the best in the business if they put more effort into them. Not just for their hard-core fans like us.
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 19 күн бұрын
I couldn’t agree more!
@xnm5588
@xnm5588 19 күн бұрын
This might be a hot take, but I really want to have different characters that I can play as, not only the "nameless" hero. Also, unique weapons and move set for everyone. Not the recycled weapons and move set that we got in recent titles. I really enjoyed DW8 for example and the combat system was great, DW9 had a great potential too, but the action in that game was really terrible you would have to waste so much time just to actually be involved in a battlefield and the battles were not even challenging.
@joebgreen9639
@joebgreen9639 18 күн бұрын
No offense, but this looks like a big concept of a game, but the problem is that it's Koei/Omega force, and they love to half-ass anything they do so the bigger the game the bigger the half-assery.
@ChaolaoFueChi
@ChaolaoFueChi 15 күн бұрын
I'm unsure how true they have ass the bigger games, but they have been so far. Since their working under other many, like too many games to make. Like, Fire Emblem Warriors came, then Hyrule Warriors, Warriors Orochi, etc. Maybe that's why they changed to Omega-Force instead of Koei-Techmo?
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 17 күн бұрын
As long we can play RPG mode like expanded ver of DW5 destiny mode with custom character, I will be safistied. My wishlist to play DW but have heavy RoTK PRG element in it.
@indrathelonewarriors1677
@indrathelonewarriors1677 17 күн бұрын
8:36 my man throwing facts out here o7
@vidfreak727
@vidfreak727 18 күн бұрын
Enemy intelligence was ok in Arslan Warriors, they attacked me in the middle of my combo and managed to interrupt my attack. No free mode already pisses me off, sadly
@ChaolaoFueChi
@ChaolaoFueChi 15 күн бұрын
It's a shame free mode will be gone, but sacrifices gotta be made along the way...
@vidfreak727
@vidfreak727 10 күн бұрын
@@ChaolaoFueChi it’s a powerful system, by now this should be EASILY doable.
@morginstjarna
@morginstjarna 18 күн бұрын
Haven't been this excited for a Warriors game since DW7:Empires
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
Warriors orochi 3 Ultimate was great
@NeoNassim
@NeoNassim 19 күн бұрын
You said everything iwas thinking about on the latest videos related to your perspectives on the new DWO.... so i'll just comment in here to say that you are currently the best DW/Musou content creator and wish you the best continuation. Also, ihave been enjoying your 5TH/6TH weapon guides on DW8XL which made me replay the game again and get all weapons to get the trophies too
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 19 күн бұрын
Thanks NeoNassim! That’s really made my day😁 plus I’m glad to hear you got back into DW8XL and got all the weapons, it’s easily one of the best warriors games😎
@sGzBugz
@sGzBugz Күн бұрын
I would love a dynasty warriors hack and slash combat experience with the world, army/resource managing, tactics and role play of mount and blade. Probably one of my dream games I’ve had since being a kid. I also always wished that you could lose battles in like empire games. To know the struggle of not being the most powerful kingdom bc the player fights for them. I know this is a 1v1000 series so losing isn’t part of the formula but I think it would just be more interesting if losing a battle and the game progressing off it happened
@Badbufon
@Badbufon 19 күн бұрын
i am the kind of guy who likes his musous with hundreds of characters, dynasty gundam and orochi warriors 3 being my favorite, so by that front i know i will be disappointed since it looks like it will be their new low in scale type of game so in exchange i expect in-depth battlefield roleplaying elements, but, we know that even the empire games are quite simple in their design, i have been following w-force long enough to know i can't expect a baldur's gate 3 level of complexity, so i will also be disappointed in that front as well in conclusion, i know the game will be mid and it's cool they are doing something at all, but i am not really looking forward to it to be honest.
@DavidLucian
@DavidLucian Күн бұрын
Nostalgic Vibes... My first Dynasty Warriors that I was playing during my childhood days was DW4, a purely Masterpiece DW game in my opinion. My favourite Dynasty Warriors games of the Entire Franchise will always be 3, 4, 5 and 6 on PS2. 🤷🏻‍♂️✌️
@andrewjohnson3273
@andrewjohnson3273 13 күн бұрын
Just to add to the new character idea, I would love to see King Shamoke be a character just for the simple reason that he kills Gan Ning and Zhou Tai basically goes on a personal revenge mission to kill him. Its nothing major but its something i think could add to both characters personalities outside of Gan Ning being an overpowered badass with bells and Zhou Tai being a personal shield for Sun Quan. Also to take a little creative liberties and show Gan Ning and Zhou Tai joining Wu from being pirates would be nice as well. Also got favorites from all factions Zhou Tai would be from Wu Gan Ning doesn't make the list only because he doesn't have his Sword from Dynasty Warriors 4. Favorite weapon for him to this day.
@Uknown291
@Uknown291 16 күн бұрын
why can't they just make a remake of dynasty warriors 3 or something
@treaon511
@treaon511 15 күн бұрын
Very grateful you decided to show my opinions on your video!
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 15 күн бұрын
Anytime!😁
@kentsemenuk157
@kentsemenuk157 13 күн бұрын
When it became literally 1 vs 1000 these games started sucking 4 and 5 are.the last good dynasty warriors games....better systems should have been better army vs army battles but they said fuck that...
@FateburnXVII
@FateburnXVII 17 күн бұрын
my thoughts upon seeing the trailer is that we'll start in the very first year of the ytr and end on chibi. it kind of reminds me of the opening cut scene we see when starting dwo and chibi is one of the major turning points of the three kingdoms. also, alot of characters died during chibi when we read their biography xD
@AngryBLKGam3r
@AngryBLKGam3r 13 күн бұрын
They need to remaster the old series they would make so much money and bring back the body guard system along with customization... they are tearing this got damn series apart with this bullshit. Its pissing me off... they fell off after DW 5...
@Votris11
@Votris11 18 күн бұрын
I feel like Origins is going to skip Jin. We has yet to get Wu side of the Jin campaign and Ding Feng is pretty much the only character that is alive during that time. Unless they extended Wu campaign before the Jin campaign to match the length of the other campaigns or add more unique characters for WU during that time, I don't see them doing Jin.
@NoelJohnCarlo
@NoelJohnCarlo 17 күн бұрын
We definitely need the Jin vs Late Wu Scenario, it's been years already.
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
The Later sun Family needs Playable models
@NoelJohnCarlo
@NoelJohnCarlo 16 күн бұрын
@@hurricane7727 Like Sun Hao? Yeah, I like to imagine him like Dictator-like or something like that.
@Abigdummy4life
@Abigdummy4life 19 күн бұрын
In all honesty this at least allows most of us fanfic nutcases to write off DWO as its own thing and allowing us to continue with the headcanons from 8 and 9's establishments in our own way.
@UnkwnFlava
@UnkwnFlava 18 күн бұрын
I’m just seeing it as a spin off lol like how the Mortal Kombat series has MK: Shaolin Monks
@zephyrhatake
@zephyrhatake 19 күн бұрын
I cant wait. Hopefully, and this is something big to be hopeful for, they'll remaster the older ones. 5 was my starter, and is still too this day my favorite
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 19 күн бұрын
I’ve been replaying 5 & 5XL and despite being on PS2, these games just feel so smooth to play - fingers crossed for a re-release one day 🤞🏼
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 19 күн бұрын
I want a Remaster of Old DW Games.
@zephyrhatake
@zephyrhatake 19 күн бұрын
@@KoeiKollection I can just picture Hu Lao gate opening, and Lu Bu dropping from the heavens with an earth-shattering landing with todays graphics. My childhood is screaming at me with how awesome that'd be
@SSGoatanks
@SSGoatanks 11 күн бұрын
It's not an Origins story without lore about the first emperor who conquered China and founded the Qin Dynasty.
@PancakesTsuki
@PancakesTsuki 18 күн бұрын
I can’t wait to see more gameplay and maybe they show the CAW options!!! Tokyo game show I hope we’ll see a lot more Also in the gameplay I seen u chose xiao qiao as ur destiny mode officer I did too :D
@ChaolaoFueChi
@ChaolaoFueChi 15 күн бұрын
Wu and Wei are somewhat different yet easy to do in Destiny Mode, Shu on the other hand... dear lord! Why's it so hard! Especially Zhou Yun's, it has more stages too.... pain.
@PancakesTsuki
@PancakesTsuki 15 күн бұрын
@@ChaolaoFueChi I’ve only done wu’s the start of destiny mode is pretty slow so I haven’t done others yet but I prob will do cuz it’s rlly fun he fei and fan castle was kinda difficult for me……
@firstnamenicklastnamelight7123
@firstnamenicklastnamelight7123 16 күн бұрын
I think this might be more along the lines of Samurai Warriors Chronicles.
@Makoto03
@Makoto03 12 күн бұрын
I'm interested to try Dynasty Warriors Origins. Hopefully they learned from the disaster of DW 9. Though honestly i wish Koei would resurrect the Dynasty Warriors Gundam subseries, since thats my personal favorite of the all the warriors titles.
@jacobxiong2739
@jacobxiong2739 15 күн бұрын
I enjoy a choose your own, but they should add a fighting style like nioh or wo long when fighting officers or generals, but when fighting enemy peons they should make it where they actually fight in a unit and you should have your own unit counter them like blade storm like. So its realistic units vs units and officers vs officer until one unit falls and they well move against that officer and overwhelm the officer to create a challenging peon fight. So if you don't plan or level your unit appropriately they can be sliced through like butter and you'll eventually be overwhelm by enemy peons so as your opponent. If they intend to do a Live service please use Helldivers 2 as a ref as they are truly live service done correctly.
@SoulKiller7Eternal
@SoulKiller7Eternal 18 күн бұрын
The combat around 9:40 was pathetic and whoever was doing it needs to get better. Thats an attack base, need to be fighting at its gate to be safe.
@StarzAlpha
@StarzAlpha 17 күн бұрын
You are a man with taste! DW5 had great music
@aybeepee973
@aybeepee973 16 күн бұрын
i'm hoping it will be like that game mode in dynasty warriors 5 xtreme legend, i hope and pray
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
Quests and Side quests were in Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce! It even had Guest characters appearing. I would want soul Calibur Characters playable since both dw and sc Characters use weapons and Sophitia had a Great Moveset
@SirIsaacFortesque
@SirIsaacFortesque 19 күн бұрын
I don't really have any hot takes right now, I prefer to see how something pans out with more trailers, I can still make predictions, but I don't want to judge something till there's a decent amount of info out. As for some of my takes on takes here, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about CAW's in this kind of game, but if it's handled like Samurai Warriors Chronicles, where you can switch characters mid battle and grow relationships and stuff I'm most likely forgetting, I'd have no problem trying something new. I don't have much to say on new characters, (Mostly because I'm not a history buff and I haven't read the novel yet :P) but I do know I want more other characters like Zhang Jiao's brothers. And while I don't hate battle pass's, I don't know how I feel about one for a DW game. Side note, Destiny looks like a pretty cool mode, now if only the older DW and SW games were easier to find out in the wild.
@AntiSkarabey
@AntiSkarabey 18 күн бұрын
You sure are playing the Devils advocate here. Koei sorta needs good DW game, but that is don't necessary mean they will deliver.
@fuelthepyre00
@fuelthepyre00 17 күн бұрын
As long as the story is solid, the gameplay is combo based again, and the voice actors are good, im sold
@KorhanR6
@KorhanR6 17 күн бұрын
I'm kinda hyped for this game, I just wish that we get a full package, give us everything we had in prior games and let us play all the characters and were good
@J3ryMack
@J3ryMack 12 күн бұрын
I just want a main line modern Dynasty warriors game thats as good as DW4
@AuomAk
@AuomAk 2 күн бұрын
all i need is to scratch that perfect combination of action and strategy gameplay again. build off of dw4
@plain1150
@plain1150 18 күн бұрын
i hope they take either the destiny or xtreme mode in DW5XL and expand upon them
@wolfofpersia2275
@wolfofpersia2275 18 күн бұрын
this is how I think the game would be based on omega force and koei tecmo policies: the game will be set during the yellow turban rebellion, using lots of wu long and dw9's assets it will also reduce 2/3 of the dw9's roster like sw5 but adding redesigns of old characters and new characters that might replace some of the old ones like how Yasuke replaced Ranmaru Mori in sw5 there will be less weapons but with unique animations for each character gameplay will be like sw5 more story will be added as paid dlc I hope that I'm wrong but that's just how this franchise is
@apocalypseruin
@apocalypseruin 16 күн бұрын
I must admit my own expectations are quite low, I've been met with disappointment too often as of late. On the positive side, maybe the new DW surprises me. I miss the older DW as well, so guess that tracks.
@emperorjoker9240
@emperorjoker9240 18 күн бұрын
I think that if you want to get a good feeling for what this game could potentially be like look at rise of Ronin(also made by Koei).
@johannvalery1686
@johannvalery1686 13 күн бұрын
As long as it's not an open-world, I'm fine with it.
@rayedwards86
@rayedwards86 9 күн бұрын
I want the old combat system back
@AziaXtremeNFinity
@AziaXtremeNFinity 15 күн бұрын
As much as I'm excited for this game honestly it's time to move on from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms and start a brand new series in the Dynasty Warriors franchise I think they should use the Warring States Period of Ancient China (476 BCE-221 BCE) and maybe the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms era (907 CE-960 CE) as future Dynasty Warriors games What do you think?
@otaking1794
@otaking1794 14 күн бұрын
For this game to be amazing they need to learn from their mistakes , yes the dynasty series fell off after 5 but as u said there's still good things in 6-7-8-9 , for this game it would be amazing for it to have something like a mix between musou mode and destiny mode (5 Xtreme legends) you have a nameless hero who start as a private or a mercenary let say he starts in the allied force against the yellow turbans after you win you choose a faction you'd join( wu shu wei) , and to introduce the Players to the world of the r.o.t.t.g the scenarios should be accurate not fictional, if you choose wu faction, it would be weird to get both shu and wei massacred at the end (and that didn't happen) i feel like you'll fight in an accurate scenario battles, let say you joined yuan shao and faught against cao cao in guan du (historically cao cao won) you'll get captured or surrender and go fight under cao cao.... In this way players will have a piece of lore that will get them hooked , starting at the yellow turbans till when jin family won against them all, and maybe till the fall of the jin ( the war of the eight princes (sima YI's grandsons civil war)), this way the game to me would be cool as hell, i don't mind weapon switch system, but don't make it tooo rpg , plus there's alot of things for dw6 they need to add (my opinion is that dw6 was a great game but not a good warriors game) strategies siege machines.... I wanna feel like I'm in war!! That's pretty much what do y'all think
@NoelJohnCarlo
@NoelJohnCarlo 17 күн бұрын
Sima Yan and Lu Kang needs to be there!
@trapgod3505
@trapgod3505 14 күн бұрын
i wish they would add blood in the game like they did with Wo long
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 12 күн бұрын
Wo long was made by a different company and that felt like Onimusha
@sterlingsingleton4340
@sterlingsingleton4340 10 күн бұрын
DWO will always be Dynasty Warriors Online for me.
@gustavobarron2948
@gustavobarron2948 10 күн бұрын
Pretty sure it is going to be a single history for one single character... Kinda like Wulong... Lastest Koei game
@Trans4Hire
@Trans4Hire 19 күн бұрын
I'm plain exhausted with DW discourse these days. I have plenty of other franchises I enjoy that don't disappoint me or make me argue anywhere near as much as DW does. I have tons more opinions and thoughts and predictions and gripes and everything, but I'm near the point of not caring anymore. If it looks good when it comes out, maybe I'll give it a chance, but it's not on my radar
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 19 күн бұрын
Yeah definitely, it can reach a point where a lot of the same issues or concerns get echoed, and it leads to apathy or disengagement
@xt3916
@xt3916 18 күн бұрын
Character name: Fun yette Phat
@andrecole7008
@andrecole7008 18 күн бұрын
There another new character that he forgot to add that been in Dyanasty Warriors since 2 or 3. Jian Yong of Shu it would be cool to see him as a playable character. Dude been in every Dynasty Warriors that I know of
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
Liao Hua as well and also Huang Quan and Yan Yan
@andrecole7008
@andrecole7008 12 күн бұрын
@@hurricane7727 Good one I agree especially Yan Yan I bet he would be an incredible bowman just like Huang Zhong
@onlyyoucanstopevil9024
@onlyyoucanstopevil9024 18 күн бұрын
NO LIAO HUA AS UNIQUE CHARACTER, I WILL NOT BUY IT
@jbarrera6638
@jbarrera6638 8 күн бұрын
As long as the legacy characters aren't BS skins with their respective moveset it'll be okay.
@darknessknouva5921
@darknessknouva5921 18 күн бұрын
You might not ever be able to really win with takes on CaW. THere will be people that absolutely hate them and want the conventional DW experience, and there are some that only like to play through Empires/Destiny mode because of the CaW and the fact that you can make your own story. We always do that play as the historical characters through the Musou Mode, which usually barely changed any of the story until the hypotheticals in DW8. CaW as protag would be excellent if they take influences from Rise of the Ronin... just make the choices of faction actually matter unlike RotR. DW9 Empires could have made the grounds for something akin to a musou RPG... too bad they didn't fill that big open world with anything to do beyond fight some bandits and wild life, interact with people to look at the same low-res food pictures (Seriously, look at the foods compared to games like FF15, no wonder why most just did the interact through the menus). But something of a Musou RPG would be great, but they have to put in effort to make it interesting.
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
In Dynasty Warriors 3 If you beat Musou Mode some characters would be alive and in Dynasty Warriors 2 Sun Quan actually Replaces Sun Jian in Yellow Turban Rebellion and Battle of Hu Lao Gate
@dohzamora8059
@dohzamora8059 19 күн бұрын
Sir can i ask what is your favorite dynasty warrior game?
@KoeiKollection
@KoeiKollection 19 күн бұрын
It changes from time to time, but right night I’m really enjoying DW5 the most, but it’s probably bc I’m also grinding out 4th weapons in the game at the moment haha
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
I think Dw5 Empires is the Best Dw5 version. Because you can Control all your Forces and cant do that in The other dw5 versions
@LuBu-vi
@LuBu-vi 18 күн бұрын
There is no split screen and no online
@sherrdreamz7232
@sherrdreamz7232 18 күн бұрын
I loved Dynasty Warriors 3-5 in all its iterations. The addition of hallway based progression with bases you just need to conquer and then go to the next one was when the game became way too repetitive. My gold standard is still The open concept and dynamic battlefield of the Yellow Turban Rebellion in DW 3 or Hu Lao Gate from DW 4. Dynasty Warriors 6 was very meh in so many ways and then I liked 7 quite a bit with its weapon swapping mechanic. Dynasty Warriors 8 was OK, but I expect more from games nowadays. I dont think the game has a good difficulty level that is both engaging and manageable. DW 3~ 8.5/10 DW 4~ 9/10 DW5~ 9/10 DW 6~ 6.5/10 DW 7~ 7.5/10 DW 8~ 7.0/10 DW 9~ 7.5/10
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
No Dynasty Warriors 2? That games Guan Du and Chi Bi makes Dw3 version look easy
@sherrdreamz7232
@sherrdreamz7232 16 күн бұрын
@@hurricane7727 I never played DW 1 or 2
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
@@sherrdreamz7232 Try Dynasty Warriors 2. It's actually a Hard game
@Ldcrs826
@Ldcrs826 18 күн бұрын
I truly hope one day the Warriors franchise moves towards an original KUF (Kingdom Under Fire) lens. Controlling your character and controlling multiple groups of troops was awesome in the early 2000s. I don't understand why Koei hasn't given it a shot given how awesome KUF was and how stale the Warriors franchise has been. I'll also continue to hope for another Dynasty Tactics game for mobile gaming on my Deck.
@felipebisi4145
@felipebisi4145 14 күн бұрын
Hey i am all in for a new focused and beefier Destiny Mode They lost the chance to do it in a Orochi Warriors sincerely
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 12 күн бұрын
That mode was for Dw xl games not Warriors Orochi Games which was about Multiple Characters
@felipebisi4145
@felipebisi4145 12 күн бұрын
@@hurricane7727 still would be better for orochi that DW
@DrakkAlm
@DrakkAlm 19 күн бұрын
This is probably my hot take: but I genuinely think Fire Emblem Three Hopes is an absolute new gold standard for Musou games for me. Not only is ally AI compotent, but the enemy AI in Hard and Maddening are also compotent and providing good challenge. Commanding AI officers to take bases and clashing with opposing officers feels amazing. It finally felt like me and my army fighting as one. Taking it to the next level with actually commanding troops, maybe like, in bladestorm and telling battalions where to attack and hold in a dynamic battlefield. I genuinely think it could be amazing, I'm very hyped for Origins. Three Hopes being great as it is after the disastrous DW9 gives me hope that Omega Force can innovate the musou formula in the correct way. However, like most people im cautious, I'll wait for reviews and see how it pans out. I'm crossing my fingers for a step in the right direction for my favorite hack n slash action game.
@Vexal50
@Vexal50 18 күн бұрын
Disagree on Three Hopes being the gold standard, as it had some huge design oversights, such as the game eventually devolving into combat art and spell spam due to how easily they could one shot things on the highest difficulty settings and it's unfortunately another musou thats heavily reliant on giving everything super armor, something that's been a trend since I believe Age of Calamity? I also felt the AI was smarter in the original Fire Emblem Warriors and, while FEW suffered from having a lot of clones, it only had one bad moveset, wheras in Three Hopes I am actively wanting to avoid half the movesets in the game. EDIT: Another point I dock Three Hopes for is its weapon attribute system, as it was mostly meaningless. Still had more impact than AoC, but that's not a high bar. The only point I can really give the Three Hopes weapon attribute system is that it's not SW4-II's, which was way too tedious if you wanted to make really good weapons. commanding officers also isn't a Three Hopes thing; FEW had it, SW4 and 4-II has it, and the HW remake had it. I'd be more surprised if Dynasty Warriors *doesn't* get the system eventually.
@sherrdreamz7232
@sherrdreamz7232 17 күн бұрын
I think the best blend of features is still Persona 5 Strikers the warriors centric combat in that game was always fun and the difficulty level was far better balanced than any Dynasty Warriors game. Three Hopes was pretty good aswell but some of its choices were a bit eye raising like making Combat Arts the central tool for taking down commanders. "At least it wasn't super spamable" just moderately with a high hp weapon".
@henosmerha5491
@henosmerha5491 18 күн бұрын
I think it's gonna be like samurai warriors 5, they're going to delete some characters
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
Hope it's in english
@obitoxshinobi8978
@obitoxshinobi8978 18 күн бұрын
if this fail again ill😂they should have made dw10 n brought back dw2 were soldier atk you aggressively n u atk them 1 by 1. bring back dw7 unique weapon i miss Zhou Yu sword n Gan Ning sword
@themurricane8711
@themurricane8711 18 күн бұрын
are we really just glossing over dong zhou's love story?
@Darkheart1413
@Darkheart1413 19 күн бұрын
I’m fine with peons being easy, theres nothing more demoralising then getting your ass kicked by peons. Sure it’s unrealistic but with the amount of souls games storming the gaming scene which I play a fair bit off, its so nice to just come on DW and kick some peon ass That being said I do hope officer combat is interesting and perhaps more a challenge, and more important fights like lu bu are almost treated as bossfights
@megahobbit5972
@megahobbit5972 19 күн бұрын
There is a balance you can strike there where peons are just there do be numbers while also not being dark souls. Id say a good level is around Dynssty Warriors 4 and 5. Where they are aggressive enough to actually be soldiers while also weak enough to not upstage the officers
@Darkheart1413
@Darkheart1413 18 күн бұрын
@@megahobbit5972I remember last time I played dw5 yeh those cocky little bastards keep interrupting your combos and the majors for sure can be troublesome I think it’s important that the archers are not annoying as they usually can be very annoying. But I suppose a few powerful troops once in a while would be good, they should do what SW did and have more range, they had sumos that I remember could be an issue
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
In Dynasty Warriors 2 peons could actually Kill your Character if they surround you
@kongmonh
@kongmonh 5 күн бұрын
This community is so toxic, everytime they are crying... Hey if you want to boycott do it but don't cry if Koei just cut the license ! Anyway, this is evolution stop living in the past, a game is made to evolve if you want to play your DW3 or DW5 go back to your PS2, I'm a fan of older and new Dynasty Warriors series, I appreciate all of them and I still play the 9th a lot, I can't wait to play the Origins !! Living in the past like you are still thinking about your ex, be toxic with yourself but not with Dynasty warriors !
@Achance2c
@Achance2c 12 күн бұрын
I want to be like everyone else and say “I want it to be like 6 or 9 or 4” but in reality, this won’t be those games and I’m so happy about that, 2 3 4 5 7 and 8 were just the same thing with a new paint job. I really just need something else. We are in PS5 era, they are also revamping their Dynasty and Samurai series. I think it would just be best to let the past games go, if you want to play them, some are on gamepass, steam, and PlayStation+
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 12 күн бұрын
2 through 4 are the best games and the ai is actually aggressive
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 12 күн бұрын
They should have Bodyguards return. In Dynasty Warriors 2, Dw3xl they were strong
@Sainttow
@Sainttow 19 күн бұрын
im a childhood dw player but i loved dw9 and empires and fuck i grew up on dw4 and everything after while 100%ing all games
@Shaco.
@Shaco. 18 күн бұрын
The character design needs to be more fairhful to the RTK series... I always disliked the anime character design.
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
The Older Dw games designs from the Ps2 weren't as Anime Based
@LuBu-vi
@LuBu-vi 18 күн бұрын
If I can join LuBu I would definitely buy it and save him
@aemediocre34
@aemediocre34 16 күн бұрын
'Gamer is creature that very quick to find the problem but they also had came up with horrible solution for that problem' Is what summarized what musou community the most. Especially the take about brain dead peon. they design it, to make you feel invicible, and become the sword waste for your musou. Its deliberate, design them that way both allies and enemy alike. If you people need allies to defeat 'x' enemy meaning you are bad player. that didnt know how to time management. Even worse its musou game, potraying how bad you are as a player. Even the hardest difficulty doesnt make them smarter only give more damage and hp bar increasing. Do you think People want bring masocore into Musou game? You will be dead by an arrow the moment you walk one step.
@hurricane7727
@hurricane7727 16 күн бұрын
In Dynasty Warriors 2 and 3 a Peon/ Private could actually Hurt your Character. In Those games rushing a Army alone could kill your Character and Archers would Also Take you down
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