Fantom EX Thoughts - Pianos, Synths, Action, vs MPC
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Күн бұрынMy thoughts on the @rolandglobal Fantom 8 with the EX update (costs $200 for the 'EX' upgrade).
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00:00 Intro, action, and pianos
05:24 ACB technology and synths
13:59 User interface thoughts
20:40 The sequencer
23:50 Versus MPC Ecosystem
#roland #fantom #musicproduction
@teftymusictech 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by! Quick FYI, this is by no means an exhaustive review of all the capabilities of the Fantom and EX update. I'm just sharing my thoughts and experience from about a year of use in the studio with the Fantom 8, and EX update 👍
@bkhschoo1 4 ай бұрын
Finally someone who gives a review with relevant ins and outs of this keyboard and compares key features with other synths. Best review ever!
@stefomeara39 4 ай бұрын
I bought the Fantom 6 just before lockdown, I think it is a great piece of studio hardware and amazing dropping everything into a DAW. I also use various MPC's with it and I have only just after 3 years began to get the feel of the limitless fun you can have.
@henrycstjamesjr8194 3 ай бұрын
I think this is the best I have seen with the new EX update, and pros and cons of the ACB tech. I would think that Roland would have have gave the Fantom OS bigger Storage for future upgrades and UI Changes. You are definitely one of the G.O.A.T's! I have not purchase one of the new Synths or Workstations, this one has me thinking about the Fantom now!💥💥💥
@nettyoc 4 ай бұрын
by the way - for editing reverb and chorus - just hold down the shift button and select the cho/rev on the screen
@chriskochanowski4242 2 ай бұрын
Soft spoken and soft music I almost felt like I was watching mr rogers neighborhood. Lol great video
@ChristopheTornieri 5 ай бұрын
I just acquired a used Fantom 08 mainly for the keybed because at this price it is more interesting than acquiring a midi controller alone. I really like it especially because I can use each of the 16 tones as midi part and control my pianos directly in Ableton and have the sound directly going into the keyboard. @teftymusictech, I was disappointed also at first regarding automation but you can actually record automation for all the parameters. But to do so, you have to assign a knob or slider to a parameter and then record. The assigned value will be recorded as an automation that you can edit later. For synth parameter you need to define a CC in the matrix to control one of the parameters.
@teftymusictech 4 ай бұрын
That's a great tip for the automation! When working mostly standalone with the Fantom I like to assign various filters to the faders (I don't like the knobs for some reason).
Ай бұрын
If you want to use multiple reverbs, I think you can set them as an insertion effect (IF1 or IF2) and set reverb to 0 on that zone. You CAN record automation if you set the REC EVENT ON on the record screen!
@ZTAudio 5 ай бұрын
The “Supernatural Acoustic” pianos bridge the gap between V-Piano and ZenCore. I often find that in certain contexts I like the SN pianos better than V-Piano.
@FranckDigiovanni 4 ай бұрын
the super natural ones are my favorite
@echobenav8 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for making another great video! Really appreciate your thoughtfulness on the strenghts and weaknesses. Interesting how Roland and Yamaha now call their flagships 'synthesizers' now instead of 'workstations'. Probably a recognition that DAWs win in that department. For me, I'm going with the MPC Key 61.
@kevinwhereat3211 3 ай бұрын
You can record the cut off and any other knob. Just assign the cut off to one if the assignable buttons and use the level buttons up and down to record the movements afterwords on mix sequencer mode.
@JamesBermingham 2 ай бұрын
For me it’s the Master Cutoff knob on the Fantom-O series that cannot be automated. Everything else seem to be ok for automation It seems the same on the EX with the master cutoff
@williambierwerth4524 5 ай бұрын
Fantom g was the same loved learning and working on it never conquered programming the sounds
@manboon1399 Ай бұрын
1:19 wow an upright Baldwin Grand piano, at last someone has invented being able to play piano laying down. ☺️
@jlfqam Ай бұрын
I guess you've tried what this site does, I cannot paste links in YT, but searching this will you almost on top of the list: Roland Fantom - how to record filters (cutoff, resonance)
@weddy5700 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this honest review! I will stick to my Akai Force with a controller keyboard. As for the zen core sounds, I use the MC 101 as a rompler box, very affordable and easy!
@FranckDigiovanni 4 ай бұрын
Good video thank you
@teftymusictech 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@xp50player 3 ай бұрын
There’s actually 3 reverb systems. The JD-800 model has its own reverb, but only for the lowest zone number instance of it being used. The audio input section has another whole effects chain, including another independent reverb section. The patch structure is by and large the same as the JV/XP/XV series, in fact easier to edit on with the graphic envelopes.
@JamesBermingham 2 ай бұрын
I love this honest review. I’ve got the Fantom O-7 and it was €1,200 and I do like it but it has its flaws. Not being able to Automate the Master Cut off knob is weird as you said in this video, and yes it’s the same on the O Series. I don’t see too much difference with the EX and the Fantom-O boards warrants a €4500 price tag. I would recommend buying an O series fantom instead if you’re really looking for that Roland sound.
@teftymusictech 2 ай бұрын
0 series is honestly great for the money. You're missing the ACB synths and the detailed piano modeling, but you still have fantastic integration with DAWs and audio interface/midi support. However! You gotta pay for the additional synths that have come out, which can get pricey.
@abrokenframe82 Ай бұрын
great video and very insightful. I was seriously looking into buying this until I watched your video. It sounds fantastic but the limitations in the sequencer and effects routing is a real let down. I wish I still had my Fantom X6 from 2003. The sequencer was awesome. Probably the last Roland workstation to include the old style sequencer. 100 patterns, 16 parts, chain the patterns and you have a song. Simple and effective. I recorded hundreds of songs on it and still have them all on my hard drive. Maybe if Roland bring out a module version of the new Fantom EX I could buy that and then hunt down an old Fantom x from 20 years ago. Lol! Also it used to be that you had patches and performances with 16 parts. Now we have clips and scenes.....It get's too confusing. Rant over.😆
@jordilopezfernandez3369 Ай бұрын
In the Vpno and Zcore pianos HiRes FFT shows note PITCH peaks tops eventually split and usually side bands appear, all in the low Hz range. What's the modulator?
@nettyoc 4 ай бұрын
enjoyed your review - do you EQ your piano's? If so, could you share your EQ settings?
@Clarence_Jr_Ross 5 ай бұрын
I love the fantom 8. One of my biggest issues with it is every panel edit you do to a sound via filter. Fx. Etc. does not save with the scene in one instance. Having to save the sound separately is a pain (now say I use that sound on another production & modify it ever so slightly) I have to save it once again to apply to the scene. lol it’s really something Roland needs to fix
@teftymusictech 5 ай бұрын
Oh man, you're absolutely right. The preset saving versus scene saving experience is one of those 'user interface' choices that just seems like an engineer designed it.
@xp50player 3 ай бұрын
There are Zone filter adjustments within the Scene that offset whatever is saved with the Tone.
@alicaramba7680 2 ай бұрын
It's no different to how 20 year old Fantom s/xa/x behaves.
@matthewgaines10 5 ай бұрын
I don’t see it as a Fantom or MPC. I see it as Fantom and MPC. The Fantom is a genius as a gigging machine. It just needs more polyphony. It eats up polyphony in a non-linear way. DAW integration on the Fantom is best in class. The MPC is great as a studio tool. The plugin sounds aren’t as lush but you can sample keygroups from your instrument of choice. I can get further, faster on the MPC than I can get on the Fantom as far as composing a song. They are different things to me. It’s not one or the other.
@MrCcfly 3 ай бұрын
i see it same way ,,mpc for hw sequencer only ... this is where it shines ,,, and roland or rest keyboards for sounds ... cause mpc sound are just meh
@Official_Zenuh 2 ай бұрын
Hi! The worst part of all is for one like me used to have 80s sequencers and have such useless sequencer on board. The polyphonic issue since I enjoy a lot of ambience it does not bother me at all. but the subject you bring out on 6:50 is the big issue indeed.. Ive tweaked velocities for each zone but the sounds after a while are sounds we have been familiar for years... I know there is a way for multi sampling etc I was wondering I could easily create new sounds etc but way too complicated....Once I had imagined I could sample some sounds , work on that easily bringing me endless sounds into it...but either we learn how to deal with it or play...lol... Thanks for your video...Wish you carry on posting hints about it sharing some secrets about it . Cheers.
@lonniechance5498 5 ай бұрын
Thanks your info is always helpful....I have the Fantom 6 x and the MPC Live 1. My biggest complaint is no linear recording in the Fantom and I know I am not alone...but once I got use to the clip based sequencer ( very weird from and old school guy) I can lay down tracks really fast....Then, I have then been recording live via 5pin to the MPC. Audio tracks. Then using the MPC to finish...up with the liner....Its really to bad Roland didn't improve on this...but it is what it is. Personally been contemplating the MPC KEYs 61...but the sounds just don't get it compared to the Fantom...so my workflow is awkward but hey... I started with the prophet 600 and the original Tascam 4 track...I can't complain man....Good job on this and thank for listening to my rant. 😎 Peace.
5 ай бұрын
With Fantom & Ableton integration you can record limitless. Fantom is quick idea generator & synthesizer. Not a complete workstation.
@MrCcfly 3 ай бұрын
or just use mpc for what is made sequencer ... rest is just attempt at best to get near workstations ----
@The.Foolosopher Ай бұрын
Hey! Great video. Do you know how long of a sequence you can make in this all together? When you said it couldn't record ten minutes, I got a bit worried. I want to buy something to make background tracks for spoken word stuff and wanted to buy something that could do everything without any extra stuff needed. Was going to buy this because the workflow seemed easy. After this review, I'm less sure. Also considering the MPC Key 61, Montage M, or just getting a 88 key midi controller and doing it all within a daw (But I'd rather use hardware.) Thanks!
@jancreighton 5 ай бұрын
nice review and comparison - I like the Phantom sounds prolly a bit better, but I've gone the MPC + plugins and Arturia keys route - for home recording
@teftymusictech 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! And that's a solid setup as well. The MPC plugins have come a LONG way in the past few years.
@jordilopezfernandez3369 Ай бұрын
The main spectral diff between Vpno and Zcore german grands is the higher power in the bass of the latter which hides the treble. Could it be the EQ?
@felipefs106 5 ай бұрын
I don't have a fantom keyboard but I do have a mc 707, that also uses Zen-core and at least to me, Zen-core sounds much better than the plugins in the Akai mpc. Also, the 707 can record automation and go up to 128 steps per midi clip, quite strange that this keyboard can't do those, being a much more expensive device than the mc grooveboxes
@matthewgaines10 5 ай бұрын
You’re getting more tones, deeper engines, more controls, keys, better support for expansions, and better DAW integration for the extra money. It isn’t going to be better in every possible way over a MC-XXX.
@randyjackson4338 Ай бұрын
I know this sounds like a noob question, but how do you bring up the main interface for a model, in other words the entire synth face. I’ve seen it on-screen in multiple videos, but haven’t seen it on my unit. Owned Fantom 8 since 2021, just did the EX upgrade.
@CurtisB1011 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Are all of the sounds and effects from the Roland Integra-7 Sound Module in the newer Roland Fantom Series?
@xp50player 3 ай бұрын
No. The Integra has more SuperNatural Acoustic sounds, and although some of the SRX expansion board content is available in some form free for the Fantom, things like the Spectrasonics Dynamic Drums stuff is not. There’s no v-drum engine in the Fantom, and a better organ engine in the Fantom than the SuperNatural TW one in the Integra. No surround imaging in the Fantom and no wifi ipad editor.
@CurtisB1011 3 ай бұрын
@@xp50player Thank you for that. 💯😎
@sylburnarthurs4398 4 ай бұрын
In the fantom face book group a member write an editor for the zen core engine. It's then i realized how deep it goes in terms of parameters accessible to address. I got a copy of it. It's about 70us dollars. Great video by the way i enjoy hearing about the fantom. Also the montage m8x is a game changer. It's esp is amazing and it's not finished as yet. They plan to fully turn it's editing loose mid year. I agree that the key bed is amazing but it's heavy as most 88 keyboards are. It's unreal though to have the power of this huge board inside your little computer and it sounds just as good with editing bein much easier because of the mouse keyboard and screen size that using a computer offers. It's awesome.
@cinepost Ай бұрын
So the m8x is better for you?
@sylburnarthurs4398 Ай бұрын
@cinepost I was just talking about that tonight the ESP is better for me because it allows me to travel light I prefer travelling lighter as I move around quite a lot. I do prefer the acoustic sounds of the montage by a mile. Because of its weight I find myself always relying on the fantom 0. Unlike the modx it has multiple out put ports. It's an audio interface. And acts as a backup should my computer fail me. The heavy boards stay at home
@garyclement2888 Ай бұрын
Good stuff. I like how you break the sounds down and really show the strengths and weaknesses on this board. I'm trying to see where Roland is taking this entire system, and yes the installation is a monster. I don't fully get it, but I love Roland products. The MPC has a drive bay to add a new SSD. Does this board need that to fix some of the issues, and create more storage? What are your thoughts?
@teftymusictech Ай бұрын
Thanks Gary! An SSD wouldn't fix the Roland issues because the architecture is different. The MPC loads slower because of this and is the reason why you can just instantly recall sounds on the MPC, like you can on the Roland.
@Ziyoblader 4 ай бұрын
They need shortcuts for some of these pages like you're talking about that you have to dive too even creating combination buttons on the unit and then releasing a PDF file for users to download to see the new shortcuts would be helpful
@xp50player 3 ай бұрын
There are parameter controls with shortcut buttons to the right of the screen.
@FranckDigiovanni 4 ай бұрын
very good analysis of the keyboard on the other hand as a pianist I prefer the super natural keyboard sound especially the last one provided with EX rather than the Vpiano control my channel if you want to hear my super natural piano tuned by me. but I am aware that everyone has their own ears for that
@biggiesmalls7939 5 ай бұрын
Nice video, I just got my EX installed two days ago. Everything works great, aside from the "Select User File" for wallpapers. That option is just not there for me. I don't care enough about it to reinstall the update, but kinda weird how every upgrade that came with the EX works, MINUS the wallpaper function lol.
@sylburnarthurs4398 4 ай бұрын
The wall paper does work. After updating it I didn't understand hire to apply either. The roland fantom face book group showed me how tho do it. But I understand that at first it wasn't intuitive similar to the fantoms effect section.
@Begbiespintpot 28 күн бұрын
Agree wholly with the MPC vs Fantom programming. I have the key 61 and the touch screen is excellent, resolution clear and the controls are easy. Ive used the Fantoms and find them nowhere near as easy to use. The key bed on the Fantom is much nicer so i need to find something to complement the MPC with a better keybed, with aftertouch.
@jazzzman1000 7 күн бұрын
Great review. No such thing as an "upright grand" piano, it is a marketing term.
@orlanditopiano1392 2 ай бұрын
My experience. Updating the software to the EX I have no more polyphony issues. Completely gone. Again my experience. I have the Fantom 7 and the Montage and maybe thinking in getting the Nord Piano 5. The German Grand is sexy. You have to go to the setting and tweak it.
@MarcWeertsMusic 5 ай бұрын
Great demo! I do love the Roland sound - my Jupiter Xm has tons of great sounds too which I do enjoy. Their UI's are horrible though and definitely not user friendly. Also - just one reverb for a multitimbral device which has reverb algorithms that are really specific to certain sounds is plain silly.
@teftymusictech 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Marc!
@Letstalkgaming 3 ай бұрын
Can't you actually have a reverb for every separate zone ? And isn't there also a main reverb as well for all the zones together ?
@teftymusictech 3 ай бұрын
Theres a main verb. That's it. You have two other advanced effects and I believe they can be delays, so you can fake a couple extras, but nowhere near what you'd want for sound design. Also the MFX for the instruments can be used for delays, but no lush reverbs.
@larrymann1272 Ай бұрын
Thanks, I staying with my 2004 Fantom X… for me the greatest Fantom….how many piano sounds do you need ?
@Eurystheas 5 ай бұрын
Great workstation as is the Yamaha m8.. Let’s see what will be Korg s answer!
@MrCcfly 3 ай бұрын
nautilus at :))))
@ilovecatsandsynths9702 5 ай бұрын
I see these modern “flagship synth not-quite-workstations” to be mainly performance preset machines… pull up a preset and play. Sound design is a pain on most/all of them, though they do generally have powerful engines under the hood. I’m more a Yamaha guy than Roland personally, I have a MODX now and would love the new Montage M… if you have a chance to check out the M8x I hear its keybed is amazing, plus it has poly aftertouch.
@teftymusictech 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that Montage M is looking very tasty. Plus they released a VST version if you own the hardware. Definitely tempting. We'll see if the budget allows for it this year. Thanks for watching!
@DNGMaestro 4 ай бұрын
You can actually record all that automation my good man!
@jmcoffin1 4 ай бұрын
i’d be interested in hearing what you think of the Montage M8x , assuming you have a chance to play one for long enough to really get a feel for it. IMHO its user interface is a vast improvement over OG Montage and Modx, and its ANX engine is a great sounding and full featured VA Synth. it’s AWM2 engine is also significantly improved resulting in pianos and EPs that I think sound, and feel as good or better than any of their competition , and have no track restrictions or weird requirements like in the OG Montage. Also, I love the feel and expressivity of its’ keyboard… Much lighter and quicker than the Fantom 8, which, at first, I thought would limit its’ expressivity. But, after getting used to it, I found it to be very expressive and is clearly the best action I have ever played. The only area where I feel Fantom 8 is clearly superior to the Montage M8x is the sequencer. But, sequencing it with a MPC One resolves that issue.
@unclemick-synths 5 ай бұрын
Let's just say that I'm "not the target demographic" for these kinds of keyboards but as it's a Tefty video I took a look to see what you had to say. I've been digging deep into ZEN-Core on the AE-30 wind synth. Half of the challenge is the inadequate documentation - the Parameter Guide is the minimum they could have gotten away with (a management decision, not the fault of the tech writers). As part of my research I looked at the docs for all the main ZEN-Core products. I used to grumble about the Aerophone Pro Editor app but having looked at the other ZEN-Core products the app seems to be the least bad interface available. I'm determined to master ZEN-Core because if I don't I'll be the owner of a very expensive MIDI controller! 🙄
@teftymusictech 4 ай бұрын
Hey Mick! Yes, Zen Core is super deep and the documentation reads like a programming language at times 😆
@FeatherGlow1 3 ай бұрын
I've just bought a Fantom 8 (intended as a replacement for my much older Fantom G8) and I find the greatest limitation is the manual. I mean, only 23 pages to explain how to use a synth of this complexity? Come on Roland, the Fantom G manual is 340 pages! And the "replacement" synth has a manual with only 23 pages. That's an enormous limitation.
@Bruce.-Wayne 2 ай бұрын
Did you check their online Manual?
@FeatherGlow1 2 ай бұрын
@@Bruce.-Wayne Why should I? The Fantom G8 came with a full-sized printed manual. As well as an editor. This is just Roland's new cheapskate way of doing things.
@markmaw8 28 күн бұрын
@@FeatherGlow1why waste 300+ pages of paper when you can view a digital copy...
@FeatherGlow1 27 күн бұрын
@@markmaw8 Point taken.
@tonyfromrhody 4 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video and input on the Fantom, I do have a question. I own a Fantom 6 and kinda wish I had gone with the 8 now but I want to buy a 88 note graded and weighted controller with out going over $1000. Any suggestions? I a not really able to try a great selection where I live so would be buying sort of blind. Any options you can offer witll be appreciated. Again really enjoyed the vid. Thanks
@teftymusictech 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience with other piano graded midi controllers. I'm also super picky about 'piano action' so I usually stay away from lower end midi controllers. However! Last year there was a few new additions like Native Instruments etc ... I'd start with those and see if they're good enough. You can always return it if it doesn't work to any of the main retailers. Zzounds is super good about returns (just make sure to read the return policy for each keyboard just in case there's a 'gotcha') Thanks for watching!
@tonyfromrhody 4 ай бұрын
@@teftymusictech Thank you for you time and suggegestion!
@sylburnarthurs4398 4 ай бұрын
SL studio is also great.
@ezlo3390 4 ай бұрын
Kawai VPC1 is amazing and I mean amazing key bed feel, like no joke. They have a used one for $1500 on guitar center. I would spend the difference and get that and you can always return it if you don’t like it
@amstadeathhardcore816 3 ай бұрын
check Roland FP 30X
@thy-wounded 5 ай бұрын
I had the Roland xp60 now I feel so old..
@teftymusictech 4 ай бұрын
I fondly think back to my Logic Gold installation on my Windows computer before Apple bought Emagic 😜
@alexsmart5452 24 күн бұрын
Whats the difference between the EX as an upgrade and the EX that just came out? Other than a $1200 dollar difference in price?
@Bruce.-Wayne 4 күн бұрын
I have the Fantom 8 and I was told the hardware stays the same....the new fantom 8 EX board is the same as the old one as far as hardware is concerned....its just a software upgrade...I might get the EX software upgrade near future
@DrGargani 3 күн бұрын
if the Fantom is your only keyboard, then, yes, these could be a factor, however, when it is just part of a MIDI studio, all of those flaws are irrelevant......so it comes down to just how you use this Keyboard and what you use it for.
@IliyanIrmanov 5 ай бұрын
MC-101 can record the filter and other parameters live. Also it has 128 step sequencer. Why the Phantom can’t, it doesn’t make sense.
5 ай бұрын
Mc-101 can record 8 bar maximum but Fantom can record up to 64 bar. 64 bar = 1024 steps. Fantom can record filter movements but you must assign cut off filter to mod wheels.
@DNGMaestro 4 ай бұрын
The Fantom can do it as well.
@BrJD-ii4iv 4 ай бұрын
Def the most pain in the ass installation, but i love it.
@88mokeyz8k 5 ай бұрын
Does Zeneology have any of these Fantom sounds, and Integra 7 sounds?
5 ай бұрын
No. Fantom sound library contains some zenology kind of sounds but have much more
@xp50player 3 ай бұрын
Zenology has all the Zencore sounds from the Fantom, and can load the same Model expansions, tone banks and PCM expansions, though theyare different formats from Roland Cloud. Zenology does not have SuperNatural acoustic engine, nZyme, V-Piano, ACB engine, Scenes or vocoder from the Fantom.
@djjas764 4 ай бұрын
kindly do... Yamaha new Montage M video as well ....
@MrSimonjan78 5 ай бұрын
True. Programming sounds on this keyboard is not ideal. Roland should make some liberian type software for this imo.
@SunlightOfTheSpirit 5 ай бұрын
The Fantom FaceBook user group will have kittens and some will need to see their therapist when they hear some of your ‘cons’. You get censored and thrown of the group if you dissent in any way. One guy was ‘feeling upset’ with the truth. I did not know you had this board along with the MPC. The drums on the Fantom are insipid and sampling is a joke and the work around on the Fantom Facebook group is to buy an MPC to cover these duties. If you’re stuck for ideas in the future could I suggest using the Fantom, Live 2 and Ableton to make a track plus the setup. Wishful thinking. Thanks again bro.
@ZTAudio 5 ай бұрын
I’m a big proponent of the idea that Fantom + MPC is practically an ideal combination. They complement each other very well, each making up for the deficiencies of the other. Regarding your comments about the FB groups … people generally don’t get booted for simple “dissent”. They get booted after repeatedly exhibiting an inability to engage in adult level conversation.
@Max10_B 2 ай бұрын
yeah that ui and all those buttons with none you want to even touch sucks. need to slim it down to 37 a la mpc and give it core function buttons. A shame cause roland sounds are usually my go to reference sounds
@jordilopezfernandez3369 Ай бұрын
I am considering an 88k synth: M8x has the best engine, f8EX the best key action and Nstg4 the best samples.
@mybachhertzbaud3074 3 ай бұрын
For me, it's just easier and cheaper to use Roland cloud.😁 🎶🎹🎶🎶Play On
@paxwallace8324 3 ай бұрын
They all have great sounds who cares but why wont anyone talk about it as a multi track recording aparatus composition modeler composer's friend ????
@MakeMagic 4 ай бұрын
The German Concert Grand (and most of the V Pianos with the partial exception of East Coast Grand) sound terrible on the Fantom 7. So fake. Not a patch on even a middle of the road sampled piano vst from 10 years ago. Yet some people seem to love them. It makes me wonder if they voiced V Piano specifically for the hammer action Fantom 8 and the velocity doesn't respond properly on the 6 and 7.
@teftymusictech 4 ай бұрын
Hmmm yeah it could be tuned to the 88 keys velocity. I've found the keys respond incredibly well when directly controlling the V-Piano sounds... BUT, when I route the midi through the MPC and back into the Fantom they lose a bit of the magic (not much, but enough for me to tell it's different). So that higher resolution velocity on the 88 keys seems to be doing something extra underneath the hood.
@MakeMagic 4 ай бұрын
@@teftymusictech The main problem I have with it is, no matter how softly you press, you never get that type of 'gentle twinkle' type sound you get from a sampled piano. It's like the velocity mapping is totally off at the low end on the synth action Fantoms, making them sound 'cheap' - every note sounds the same until you purposefully try to play loud - then it sounds great.
@captivesojourner 3 ай бұрын
Zaytovens white uncle
@FugaziSB Ай бұрын
That's 2024 Roland for you, trying to reuse old technology with limitations on polyphony and you can only use one of these special engines in a performance. They had teh technology in the 90's for most of the stuff, but the hardware was expensive or non existent, now hardware is dirty cheap, yet Roland are still 20 years behind.. Common Roland! I'm 54 years old! I don't have another 20 years for you guys to get your shit together!
@ffabs Ай бұрын
16:00 It's not a "you problem". This happens to everyone and it's simply bad UI and UX Design. Basically you can feel that Akai has designers and invests in good design and Roland not! Simple as that. Bad design results an awful user experience.
@MrCcfly 3 ай бұрын
to sum up ... mpc is seq and rest is meh , not even close for live .. roland live greaaat synth with a f ton of great sounds for live playing ......
@JamesRoneyMusic 3 ай бұрын
Your audio feed is poor quality. The sounds in this keyboard sounds ten times better then the audio in your video. Even your voice sounds unnatural. Might want to resolve that before posting more videos. Thanks for your insight and sharing knowledge.
@mohitpanchalkeyboardist7838 2 ай бұрын
Very bad workstation synthesizer Please don't Purchase 😡
@orlanditopiano1392 2 ай бұрын
Idk man. I updated the EX and have no issues
@Bruce.-Wayne 4 күн бұрын
Lol.....I got the fantom 8 four months ago and I'm still learning my way around it, but I got this for the feel and keybed and DAW integration....I was gonna get the Montage 8 but changed my mind after playing it for a few....action felt too plastic to me, but it has better piano sounds than the fantom 8 though
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