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2 жыл бұрын

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@MBTYuGiOh
@MBTYuGiOh 2 жыл бұрын
Cope, seethe, mald.
@KyunaCookies
@KyunaCookies 2 жыл бұрын
Witness as true Draco wins yet another MBT
@darkmagicianfan3423
@darkmagicianfan3423 2 жыл бұрын
All I know what to do anymore is summon fibrax, it's been so long. I don't know what yugioh is anymore. The other day, I drew Veiler and tried to normal summon it. In Plant format. Everything has become fibrax to me. There are no other monsters, no spells other than tuning. The only trap i know how to activate is conquistador. Occasionally I add back a card with barricadeborg, and I cry a little. I attack for game but wish I was being gamed instead. It's become a joke of sorts, or maybe it's just my life. I can't go anywhere without seeing auroradon combos. I went to feed my dog the other night, but instead of eating she turned into a link 1 and summoned 2 tokens that can't be used for a link summon that turn. I had to put her down. I sit in the corner now counting down the days, the days where we shall see sweet release from this torment, the day when synchro summoning was about 2 monsters having a special bond and creating something beautiful. Those days are long gone. I have seen God, and I have seen the devil, but they are one and the same. I stared into the abyss and screamed, and it screamed back: "summon linkross effect”
@LostEndgame
@LostEndgame 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyunaCookies spoilers: it didn't
@KyunaCookies
@KyunaCookies 2 жыл бұрын
@@LostEndgame oh god I can't wait, no spoil. I'm guessing maybe uh Despia
@TrevorAllenMD
@TrevorAllenMD 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually Farfa’s confession he’s been a member of the Ghostrick community all along.
@Caleb-zl4wk
@Caleb-zl4wk 2 жыл бұрын
ikr
@canirunitDOTio
@canirunitDOTio 2 жыл бұрын
Either ghostrick community member or altergeist fan club member 🤔
@heulg.darian2536
@heulg.darian2536 2 жыл бұрын
one of us, one of us
@amangill1752
@amangill1752 2 жыл бұрын
The Genex gang
@TheoJay615
@TheoJay615 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Altergeist fans hated MBT too lol
@captainchaos5705
@captainchaos5705 2 жыл бұрын
"are you trying to bring it back just for the sake of bringing it back?" Yes. That is precisely the point. What is the maximum number of things we can bring back without destroying Yu-Gi-Oh Also something I've noticed with MBTs banlist is that he unbans pieces going "well this thing alone doesn't break them" and then he does the same thing for the other pieces so it is busted
@Supergupo
@Supergupo 2 жыл бұрын
(Looks at Djinn) "This alone doesn't break Drytron" Proceeds to unban Eva.
@youngdoodle
@youngdoodle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Supergupo herald build is way better than including djinn anyway
@suezuccati304
@suezuccati304 2 жыл бұрын
@@youngdoodle yeah, Drytron doesn't really synergizes with Djinn but it's terrible for future proofing
@lorenzolombardi3369
@lorenzolombardi3369 2 жыл бұрын
Procedes to unban master peace that ruined all of his tournaments. Way to go.
@flogos989
@flogos989 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzolombardi3369 dragon ruler lost round one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@WhiteWolfRQ
@WhiteWolfRQ 2 жыл бұрын
“Are you bringing back Victory Dragon just for the sake of bringing it back?” Yes Farfa, that is the entire point of the Moron Banlist Tournament.
@jonatassilva2605
@jonatassilva2605 2 жыл бұрын
A shame, because it used to be better, a thought out list of cards that could come back....now is indeed just 'cause.
@geiseric222
@geiseric222 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonatassilva2605 yeah I will agree, bringing back cards you know are only there for technical reasons rather than playability is pointless for an online tourney
@TheSaicoKiller
@TheSaicoKiller 2 жыл бұрын
Previous Moron Banlists were more thoughtful because they were made with the idea of actually releasing cards that don't need to be there. Last time MBT said himself that now that he has done that, the goal is just to release as many cards as possible, basically for the sake of it. If you want a more thoughtful Moron Banlist, watch previous videos where he did that. No point making the same video over and over again
@geiseric222
@geiseric222 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSaicoKiller eh this is a bit silly as the meta changes and cards will interact with them differentky
@TheSaicoKiller
@TheSaicoKiller 2 жыл бұрын
@@geiseric222 A the point is to be silly B yes but realistically there has been little cards that changed because the cards he originally picked are just bad. There are exceptions like Time Seal, which sucks, might not suck as much since Labrynth is a thing. Surely he could make another more serious one but refer to point A
@galesturms
@galesturms 2 жыл бұрын
Just like watching this when it happened on stream, no one can tell if Farfa understood the bit for about half the video.
@ryancondon2246
@ryancondon2246 2 жыл бұрын
FARFA the point isn't to make the game more fun the whole thing is "how many cards can I take off before the game is destroyed"
@prosamis
@prosamis 2 жыл бұрын
This, lmao
@exzyyd392
@exzyyd392 2 жыл бұрын
>Starts with Victory Dragon
@ryancondon2246
@ryancondon2246 2 жыл бұрын
ALSO im raging that they banned verte that was my whole joke, makeVerte :(
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 2 жыл бұрын
The question isn't "Is this good?", it's "Did Icarus really go high enough?"
@lilgrabbo6142
@lilgrabbo6142 2 жыл бұрын
I get the critique of master peace, that is a clearly broken piece he should know from his other mad science experiments
@LazyLee
@LazyLee 2 жыл бұрын
farfa doesn't understand that fun is irrelevant it's about causing as much suffering as possible
@maltenuchter7134
@maltenuchter7134 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why its called the MASOCHIST banlist after all.
@thegwallitn5337
@thegwallitn5337 2 жыл бұрын
i find causing suffering to be fun :)
@GzzGtu20
@GzzGtu20 2 жыл бұрын
*THE PLEASURE OF PAIN*
@Machiroable
@Machiroable 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa is really hufing on that copium implying current YGO is fun even with all these cards banned, especially because most of the overpowered getting banned are a must of in rogue decks.
@maxh7085
@maxh7085 2 жыл бұрын
One man's pleasure is another man's suffering.
@Haruhater
@Haruhater 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa and MBT need to duel now with all the strats they can think of.
@bl00by_
@bl00by_ 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa only knows 6 decks: Evilswarm, Infernity, BA, Ignister, Adamanciptaor and Draco Pals. So it's going to be alittle hard.
@BagMakingBagmaker
@BagMakingBagmaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@bl00by_ I have definitely seen him use more
@saif19845
@saif19845 2 жыл бұрын
@@bl00by_ I have seen farfa play infernoids and ligthsworn grass
@GrugGangGrugGang
@GrugGangGrugGang 2 жыл бұрын
@@saif19845 Have you seen him play them well?
@menekenkack
@menekenkack 2 жыл бұрын
Danny in chat: "I love this tournament for the reactions" while Farfa is losing his mind over the banlist
@WinterGray8888
@WinterGray8888 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I think he’s misrepresenting here is that MBT has to hit a quota, he doesn’t genuinely think these cards should come off but he’s saying that if you have to un ban 90 cards then these are the least bad
@pmrobin8
@pmrobin8 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexYu-gi-oh he literally put them all to three tho
@TheMatt_SD
@TheMatt_SD 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexYu-gi-oh He put the Exodia pieces to 3, though? They're on the last slide of cards to unlimit
@WinterGray8888
@WinterGray8888 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMatt_SD yeah, he did.
@Unknownz000
@Unknownz000 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmrobin8 well yeah. What does putting every banned card to 1 even do? You get staples but that really all it is. It'd just be already existing decks running these one of staples and nothing else. When u unban cards to 3 then you introduce more decks that can be played so it's actually entertaining rather than watching normal yugioh with a strong card every now and then.
@alexandruandros1271
@alexandruandros1271 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unknownz000 what does putting every card to 1 do? Uh you get trad format
@squidge477
@squidge477 2 жыл бұрын
"Flip it over and summon and ftk and also extended." Truly a legend
@DallySkyeAnims
@DallySkyeAnims Жыл бұрын
He was obviously referring to extending the handshake for such an amazing match. :)
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
The card does read "you have infinite normal summons per turn", and can explicitly be used during your opponent's battle phase to normal summon any number of monsters. Are we pretending that special summons aren't good specifically because you can do as many as you want per turn?
@agushernandezquiroga9064
@agushernandezquiroga9064 Жыл бұрын
​@@dontmisunderstand6041 The problem is that since it's a trap card, the earliest you could use it is during your opponents battle phase, and at that point it's definitely going to get either destroyed or negated.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
@@agushernandezquiroga9064 Baiting a negate sounds good enough to make it in a deck to me.
@agushernandezquiroga9064
@agushernandezquiroga9064 Жыл бұрын
@@dontmisunderstand6041 I mean, if baiting a negate or destruction on a card that can only be activated in the battle phase is good enough, might as well be playing Drowning Mirror Force. Mass, non-targetting, banishing removal for no cost or need to have normal summonable monsters in hand to activate and is searchable with trap trick. But nobody plays it because the opponents battle phase is too late to activate trap cards.
@UniGya
@UniGya 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Joseph was pretty open about how this one and the previous banlist "prediction" lists were about seeing how much you could take off the list without actually changing what the best decks are, not making the game more fun. Like no shit this list sucks ass, he's not actually advocating we do this
@saif19845
@saif19845 2 жыл бұрын
@UC3y55kzpWt7Jty6PTP4SriA still a dumb concept
@theauberman
@theauberman 2 жыл бұрын
He even calls it "The Masochist Banlist"
@Meanlucario
@Meanlucario 2 жыл бұрын
Saying that Konami could unban these cards today and it wouldn't change anything implies otherwise.
@UniGya
@UniGya 2 жыл бұрын
@@Meanlucario by “it wouldn’t change anything” he meant “the current best decks would remain the best decks,” not that the game would be complete unaffected
@Meanlucario
@Meanlucario 2 жыл бұрын
@@UniGya He says as True Draco, Syncrons. and the latest tournament says otherwise.
@mekklord
@mekklord 2 жыл бұрын
MBT: "Here's a list of cards that could come off and not make all that much of a ruckus. It's not a wish list - just a list to test my own, admittedly degenerate format." Farfa: "WOAH I CANT BELIEVE MBT WANTS ALL THESE CARDS BACK IN THE GAME"
@Mani-en9lw
@Mani-en9lw Жыл бұрын
I think i saw you in duel links Reddit
@TheWitchBoi
@TheWitchBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Farfa just going through his Joker Arc rn.
@Farfa
@Farfa 2 жыл бұрын
Guys it's just a joke relax lmao, no we don't have beef.
@user-cs6me3tv7i
@user-cs6me3tv7i 2 жыл бұрын
Is justa joke why hab to be mad?
@Hempujonsito
@Hempujonsito 2 жыл бұрын
Too late I'm already seething, boiling, malding and coping even
@crusaddy982
@crusaddy982 2 жыл бұрын
When the copium needs to huff copium to keep up
@dougla517
@dougla517 Жыл бұрын
I'm still seething with rage. How dare.
@TheFourthBlackReaper
@TheFourthBlackReaper 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa. This is not a wish list. MBT does not want these cards unbanned to make the game better. It’s to challenge Konami into being more open to removing cards from the ban list that do not need to be there. Should Victory Dragon stay banned? Yes. Should cards like Trap Dustshoot, an ancient ban that was situational at best in its hayday of 20,000 years ago, stay banned? No. That’s the point he’s trying to make. It’s just a silly idea to have some fun with a wacky ban list for a tournament to goof on Konami.
@fukou_da
@fukou_da 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but his reasoning is still bad
@Machiroable
@Machiroable 2 жыл бұрын
@@fukou_da Yeah, but in practice said cards aren't broken anymore or only broken in pretty specific situations.
@fukou_da
@fukou_da 2 жыл бұрын
@@Machiroable It's still pretty silly to say something like "making Verte is better than activating Fusion Destiny from the hand"
@spacepsycat
@spacepsycat 2 жыл бұрын
You are a big fucking dumb dumb just as MBT. He is not trying to make a point, he is just an "entertainer" doing "entertaining" things for his stupid audience.
@firstnamelastname7587
@firstnamelastname7587 2 жыл бұрын
@@fukou_da Which is more likely to happen in a game, you summon 2 monsters? Or you hard draw FD? I'm pretty sure that was his point and not literally that if you have FD in hand already you should make verte instead cause thats better.
@DuncanHarbison
@DuncanHarbison 2 жыл бұрын
5:35 - none of your fingers have effects that activate in the graveyard.
@effluxi9587
@effluxi9587 2 жыл бұрын
lmao farfa really channeling his viewer's intelligence and reading comprehension for today's video
@nethius100
@nethius100 2 жыл бұрын
The sad part is that MBT only gave like a day and a half for people to make decks with this list before submissions closed so probably no one got time to make things genuinely spicy
@DuskoftheTwilight
@DuskoftheTwilight 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that's the real flaw with these banlists. Ideally he'd give at least a week or so for people to lab stuff
@melchior0184
@melchior0184 2 жыл бұрын
Imma search Change of Heart with Alembertian and nobody can stop me 2:47 Laplacian: "maniacal laughter"
@TwistedBOLT
@TwistedBOLT 2 жыл бұрын
"The masochist banlist" Farfa: How is this fun?!?!?!?? Sorry dude but you need a big wooosh for the video as the entire point of this series kinda went over your head.
@saif19845
@saif19845 2 жыл бұрын
The idea is stupid itself since it’s not accurate this format is just for one event a realistic format is many events over many months where innovation happens.
@lagxus7445
@lagxus7445 2 жыл бұрын
Here we see three diferent Views of the game: Farfa - priorizing fun MBT- Prefers varieties of stratrgies instead of fun Konami: MONEY GOES BRRR
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 2 жыл бұрын
MBT - Prefers chaos
@fosterdawson7339
@fosterdawson7339 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashikjaman1940 theduellogs: gimmick decks and Akiza memes
@austinnowak5414
@austinnowak5414 2 жыл бұрын
The point of the Moron Banlist Tournament is too unban as many cards as possible. It's not about fun
@bl00by_
@bl00by_ 2 жыл бұрын
I like how farfa either doesn't understand MBT's unban series or understands it but malds about it anyway just because he wants to.
@ZelniteMH
@ZelniteMH 2 жыл бұрын
He knows but the "rage" clickbait is ez content for him.
@bl00by_
@bl00by_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZelniteMH Imagine you're so desperate for clicks that you have to do something like this, meanwhile most other yugitubers put out quality content.
@hyperion1644
@hyperion1644 2 жыл бұрын
Its actually puzzling to me how engage is at 1 but harp horror is still banned
@Rastaboulotte
@Rastaboulotte 2 жыл бұрын
You wan't to Engage! banned? I can support that.
@Tanka036
@Tanka036 2 жыл бұрын
I think the logic is, Harp at 1 is Harp at 7 for Orcust due to Girsu and Scars. Where as Engage is maybe at 2 on any specific turn. I would love to be able to have Harp Horror back just because the deck really hurts without it, but that might be the logic.
@hyperion1644
@hyperion1644 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tanka036 i know what you mean but yeah the deck is really crippled still
@hyperion1644
@hyperion1644 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rastaboulotte not that but want one horror
@Tanka036
@Tanka036 2 жыл бұрын
@@hyperion1644 true, I want to play Orcust as well, gonna buy max rarity and cope/wait for horror back
@Pyrrha_Nikos
@Pyrrha_Nikos 2 жыл бұрын
This is how the endless conga line of content starts this year. I can't wait for Joseph's response and then Farfa's reponse to that and so on
@AstralPhnx
@AstralPhnx 2 жыл бұрын
Oroboros once again
@Boristien405
@Boristien405 2 жыл бұрын
16:00 Verte is literally better. It dodges the most commonly played card in the game, Ash Blossom. The point is that with Verte, every hand can get to FD. Without Verte, you have to hard draw FD. Remember, FD as a spell takes a card out of your hand while Verte can just send from Deck and randomly dodges things like Crossout/Prohibition too.
@Cassapphic
@Cassapphic 2 жыл бұрын
The power of verte is any two monsters do it, in most cases you've already checked for ash before hard activating FD unless your hand is bad and you were gonna do DPE pass or something.
@blinktwice296
@blinktwice296 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really not, if your opponent saved an Ash for the final play then they already lost lol
@andreamarini9940
@andreamarini9940 2 жыл бұрын
But if you ban FD, guess what happens, you can't neither hard draw it, nor use It with verte. But i guess It doesn't matter because verte Is now banned anyway, but still
@Boristien405
@Boristien405 2 жыл бұрын
@@blinktwice296 One month later, guess I was right. Nobody except HERO is playing DPE after Verte got banned and Ash is still the most popular handtrap. Decks are now much more diverse now. Obviously there's still problems but we have Despia, Swordsoul, Flundereeze, Therion PUNK, Dragon Link, etc. as the top decks. Verte was "the problem" of the package.
@blinktwice296
@blinktwice296 2 жыл бұрын
@@Boristien405 ngl idk what I was on with that comment lol. I feel like I always knew Verte was the problem, but maybe it’s cause I was salty that so many people in the past did hard draw FD against me despise me negating Verte lol
@glover683
@glover683 2 жыл бұрын
Feel like Farfa is kinda missing the point of the video
@Marqrk
@Marqrk 2 жыл бұрын
I think he believes (or chat told him) that this was MBT’s genuine banlist prediction/wishlist rather than a challenge to god to smite him for his hubris
@LilyApus
@LilyApus 2 жыл бұрын
doesn't he usually miss the point?
@Phoenix107
@Phoenix107 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this live, and it really feels like farfa just didnt realize that the Point of the list is to bring everything back you CAN. "How does this make it more fun?" - DOESNT MATTER, thats not the point.
@PhoenixLance13
@PhoenixLance13 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Farfa LITERALLY commentate one of these tournaments too?
@ivanmaterazzo2631
@ivanmaterazzo2631 2 жыл бұрын
But the point of the list is not just nerfing powerful archetypes, but we also want to get rid of obnoxious cards. We are 100% sure plant ftk or "solemn cards+ last turn+ barrier statues" lists won't be any near to competitive, but boy if they can be ridiculous to play against. Farfa argument is not so weak and I believe the masochistic tournament while fun it doesn't prove at all if some cards could or couldn't come out from the list safely.
@Evil_Florida
@Evil_Florida 2 жыл бұрын
He is just very honest about what he wants to do, ok. He quite literally stated the purpose of this is to destroy yugioh forever
@Unknownz000
@Unknownz000 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if farfa realizes that mbt doesn't want the whole banlist to be at 3. This is basically how many unbans can I do without absolutely fucking the game over. And I honestly think his unbans are reasonable since theyre literally the ones that don't kill the game completely.
@andrejv.2834
@andrejv.2834 2 жыл бұрын
They would in an actual tournament setting and time to do proper testing, but the point is to have a funny draw droll or lose tournament so we don't care about that
@simonlarimore1770
@simonlarimore1770 2 жыл бұрын
It takes a unique set of skills to double the length of a video and still not get the point XD
@matthewsouden6998
@matthewsouden6998 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa has officially lost his mind and then lost it again
@DoctorFalchion
@DoctorFalchion 2 жыл бұрын
It's called the Moron / Masochist Banlist Tournament for a reason, it's intentionally anti-fun, the only limit is that it shouldn't unreasonably raise the power level of top meta matchups, or in other words, straight-up break the game.
@WarpedByTheNHK
@WarpedByTheNHK 2 жыл бұрын
MBT is mostly right (some of his choices are insane). The forbidden list should only really contain cards that are meta relevant. If you ban every irrelevant off meta card that isn't "fun" then you are going to end up with a list clogged with trash like Gishki Gustkracken and Naturia Bamboo shoot. No matter how unfun a card is, once it loses relevance to the meta, it should leave the list.
@zuleanservant
@zuleanservant 2 жыл бұрын
To play devil's advocate about fusion destiny: activating verte can't be ash'd vs raw activating destiny. There's also the variable of not needing to have the destiny in hand to make use of it whereas verte is always live so long as you can put 2 bodies on the board. Which is statistically more likely than topdecking a 3-of. In a vaccuum raw dropping destiny is the better option when consistency isn't a variable however you will have a greater likelihood of just being able to make verte and banking on your opponent not having imperm, vieler, or gamma.
@andrejv.2834
@andrejv.2834 2 жыл бұрын
So verte can't be ashed but can be hit by 3 other commonly played hand traps Also that's the point, you use verte for when you don't open fd and make something better than verte when you do open it
@zacharycannaday6075
@zacharycannaday6075 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm missing something. How can verte dodge ash?
@tcoren1
@tcoren1 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacharycannaday6075 first off, sending the fusion card to the graveyard is part of verte's cost rather than effect, so you can't ash that. But what about verte's actual effect? Well verde's effect reads "this effect becomes that Spell's effect when that card is activated, also, you cannot special summon..." so verte's effect is "copy the fusion cards effect", which is not something ash can negate, even if she would've been able to negate the copied effect
@mathewricafrente5984
@mathewricafrente5984 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda want MBT to do a tournament where everything is at 3, just to see how badly the results would destroy Yugioh.
@masterduelzero1795
@masterduelzero1795 2 жыл бұрын
You literally have to play Droll at 3 to have any chance of seeing turn 2
@joshleake3517
@joshleake3517 2 жыл бұрын
@@masterduelzero1795 But then they draw one of their three called by and three crossout anyway so it doesn't matter
@DrDrao
@DrDrao 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshleake3517 You also play 3 if just to guarantee you draw the out.
@waskithonugroho3955
@waskithonugroho3955 2 жыл бұрын
well unlimit all draw card lead one ppl to play floodgate masterpeace and win the tournament soooo
@Spxngxd
@Spxngxd 2 жыл бұрын
Play IO turn 1 win the game
@alexcrawford5539
@alexcrawford5539 2 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes his reasons are just a bunch of words". Wasn't MBT in law school or am I making that up?
@rubenjerate5848
@rubenjerate5848 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he was :)
@pinkdelicious655
@pinkdelicious655 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean he's good at it. There's sovereign citizens who studied law
@GentlemanBones
@GentlemanBones 2 жыл бұрын
I think an important thing to note about MBT's banlist tournaments is that: 1) Eveyrone knows everyone else's deck list going in, so you can play specific counter cards like Eschatos with precision, and 2) He's lying anyway, because he gives himself the ability to veto certain decks from being entered, so you can't just freely take advantage of the ban list he curated.
@orga7777
@orga7777 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Everyone is on Droll in every one of these tournaments. It is frustrating. It is always "See, FTKs and endless draw power doesn't work. Just draw Droll." Like... hello? lol. Nobody like formats where you either play Droll or lose.
@Trojanexe-gk8kf
@Trojanexe-gk8kf 2 жыл бұрын
@@orga7777 but the point isn't to make a good format the point is to unban 90 cards
@orga7777
@orga7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trojanexe-gk8kf That is fine and all, but that isn't what Joseph says in the videos. He honestly thinks it changes nothing in the format.... Except now everyone is forced to main deck Droll and Lock Bird or lose in seconds.
@ryansanagustin6553
@ryansanagustin6553 2 жыл бұрын
@@orga7777 He doesn’t genuinely think removing all these cards won’t have ANY impact. He’s just trying to prove the point that the banlist should be more lenient by taking it to extrema. And if he’s sorta wishy-washy ab his argument, it weakens it (tho I will admit his rushed arguments for each card and curating which decks can be allowed in the tournament also weakens his argument but really it’s about clickbait and about getting his point across about how stingy the banlist is currently)
@darkblade9924
@darkblade9924 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny how the winner of the tourney was:.... Infernoble.
@lollojojjo6612
@lollojojjo6612 2 жыл бұрын
Can I be honest? I think smoke granade of the thief can return now since auroradon is banned, I don't think infernoble will do other than discard 1 or 2 card, expecially now that they unlimited trishula and mermail still exist
@commander950
@commander950 2 жыл бұрын
"How would this make the game more fun?" Oh sweet, silly, naive farfa it was never about fun it's about succeeding where Icarus failed.
@netcat22
@netcat22 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest part to me about the moron banlist is that it put duo to 1 but not COH
@bigman94755
@bigman94755 2 жыл бұрын
COH is just a weird unban from Konami. Just put Mind Control to 2 and you have the exact same thing as now but not as strong.
@Caleb-zl4wk
@Caleb-zl4wk 2 жыл бұрын
He skews this so hard. Mbt chillin
@DillonChichester
@DillonChichester 2 жыл бұрын
I’m one minute in, but I can already tell this is gonna be 20 minutes of farda repeating his one bad argument about the list making things more “fun”…
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 2 жыл бұрын
2:13 how is that any more egregious than flunder? Flunder can also protect the statue way easier than books can protect jowgen and can play through Ash.
@lamthejamman5468
@lamthejamman5468 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa having numerous mental breakdowns over MBT’s decisions is fucking fantastic.
@qweschuning
@qweschuning 2 жыл бұрын
Theres something about the way MBT jingles keys that truly makes me believe anything is possible.
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 2 жыл бұрын
Thus the cycle of MBT unbanning Masterpeace, realising how terrible this decision was only to then unban it again in the next moron banlist shall continue.
@zRunes
@zRunes 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa: How does this make the game more fun Title of the damn event: Masochist banlist tournament
@antrondon3654
@antrondon3654 2 жыл бұрын
The game is fun when you get to play with your cards. Every card that doesn't break the game should be unbanned.
@bagredecartola1289
@bagredecartola1289 2 жыл бұрын
Actually ultimate offering would be extremely good on monarchs, using your squires on your oponents turn to generate tribute fodder and then using them to summon more monarchs, and also if you could summon 1 erebus on your turn and other on the oponents turn it straight up loops 2 cards and then you the other monarchs
@mikaela5938
@mikaela5938 2 жыл бұрын
a lot of the unhits he lists are because it would be funny to unhit them, victory dragon is terrible but it's funny, mass driver is dumb but ftk is funny
@alexYu-gi-oh
@alexYu-gi-oh 2 жыл бұрын
How is that "funny"? I swear mbt's community calls everything funny just because. Like how is it a fun experience for you to go to a tournament just to play against some dumb player who plays last turn or victory dragon and u have to waste 20 minutes on judge calls instead of just playing the game
@livingbeing4517
@livingbeing4517 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexYu-gi-oh Because the tournament you're going to is against other MBT viewers (hand-picked by MBT) and the point is to make the most of this banlist and so nobody will play Victory Dragon anyway?
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 2 жыл бұрын
Mass driver is also absolutely awful. We have 3x cannon soldier who is infinitely more searchable and summonable than a continuous spell that isnt part of an archetype. Also as MBT said if you can summon 20 times you can make a billion negates or have already gotten nibiru'd. Pay offs are hardly ever the issue. Game is all about how consistent your engine is and how well it plays through handtraps.
@alexYu-gi-oh
@alexYu-gi-oh 2 жыл бұрын
@@livingbeing4517 he said victory dragon is "funny" so im trying to understand where the fun in that card. Please dont try to be a smartass
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 2 жыл бұрын
@@luminous3558 this. Back in Danger! Darkworld FTK that deck would've ran soldier over driver due to how flexible the card is over a continuous spell especially since if you discarded it you just went with plan B of 5000 negates and used the potential extra dark in grave for cards like beginning of the end.
@Meanlucario
@Meanlucario 2 жыл бұрын
MBT is the guy who watched Jurassic Park and decides he wants to clone dinosaurs as well, ignoring the movie's cautionary tale.
@lightningfarronxp8899
@lightningfarronxp8899 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa: "YOU CAN'T UNBAN THINGS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF UNBANNING THEM!" Cry about it lol.
@Xhalonick
@Xhalonick 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa cries about everything from the state of us politics to really anything and everything under the sun. His entire channel is false outrage.
@otretzel7533
@otretzel7533 2 жыл бұрын
Cry about it
@Akoom
@Akoom 2 жыл бұрын
Projection
@sugglemynuts3754
@sugglemynuts3754 2 жыл бұрын
"untargetable monster that pops a card" masterpiece is just a shity dragoon you have to normal summon
@luigirock96
@luigirock96 2 жыл бұрын
Change of heart is scary, use the meteor hand trap and change of heart on the token to one shot.
@puppieslovies
@puppieslovies 2 жыл бұрын
There are much stronger turn 3 plays if you get to resolve nibiru and your opponent has an empty field It's basically impossible to lose if you do that anyway
@Kurumisama
@Kurumisama Жыл бұрын
Victory Dragon should be errata to make it "also If your opponent surrenders at any point the turn you summon this card, win the match"
@hannes_r
@hannes_r 2 жыл бұрын
i play goat format a lot and you know uhm, duo can never come back, the people who made it were batshit crazy
@lukemacinnes5124
@lukemacinnes5124 2 жыл бұрын
normal summon during opponents turn could be cracked depending on what you play with it, though that requires two cards in hand but being able to normal summon amano or something along those lines would be good
@CZPC
@CZPC 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa jesus. The point of the video just flew 80mph above your head.
@TheRobin120
@TheRobin120 2 жыл бұрын
Tempest magician is ultra easy to get out with endymion pend stuf and with selen getting a million counters ...
@vedremo9240
@vedremo9240 2 жыл бұрын
Not that easy
@SirAthiro
@SirAthiro 2 жыл бұрын
"SHUT UP!!!" *Pauses video* Bro I lost it. 😂
@I2obsturn21
@I2obsturn21 2 жыл бұрын
MBT trying to get delinquent duo to come back 😂🤣
@Nyartatouille
@Nyartatouille 2 жыл бұрын
Errata Victory Dragon so that it says "While this card is on the field, your opponent cannot forfeit" and it can comr back.
@Dw7freak
@Dw7freak 2 жыл бұрын
About the cards Farfa has an issue with: Victory Dragon doesn't work in closed tournaments like this. With the amount of resources it would take to normal it, you could just win the game. Even then, match winners only work in the ocg where you can't just scoop on your opponent's turn. Djinn doesn't work in Drytron, the only viable ritual deck currently. Unless we see some Nekroz, I don't see anyone playing it. I agree about Duo. It should stay banned. Truedraco... He just wants to watch his tournament burn. Misc is literally the only reason Dino could be competitive. The deck still loses to a bunch of the meta. Even without Verte, every deck is still gonna splash DPE. The third copy of Fusion Destiny won't do anything but clog your hand after turn 1. Tempest Magician is only plausible in Endymion and we all know how unviable pend is.
@The_Doctor__
@The_Doctor__ 2 жыл бұрын
The last episode of The masochist banlist series would have MBT removing every card from the banlist and destroying Yugioh once and for all thus saving the environment and preventing the end of the world.
@Shazam1998
@Shazam1998 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa doesn't seem to understand the point of the video and neither does his chat.
@KyunaCookies
@KyunaCookies 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS NOT A WISHLIST
@crowcrow7040
@crowcrow7040 2 жыл бұрын
The Brainworms really got farfa this time o7
@yaxkingonzalez2728
@yaxkingonzalez2728 2 жыл бұрын
At this point MBT it's Vigilante doing crazy faces
@bioniclelegend7
@bioniclelegend7 2 жыл бұрын
Okay one thing I do have to point out on farfas opinion on misc is the fact that it is vulnerable to hand traps through it's second effect. It's second effect for most Dino builds is very important as it can be the combo starter and if you ash, bell, called by or skull meister it, it hurts a ton. With lythosagm(however you spell it) it does mean you don't need to rely on misc as much to get archo to pop your baby but he can still be a brick in your hand. Also misc only protects your dinosaurs so if you try your scrap combo, it can still be hit by stuff like nibiru which can shutdown the Dino player. Basically, I do think misc might be okay to go 2 as then it means he's not as common in opening hands and if you hit the misc with a negate, they only have 1 left. This also keeps the true king variants down as with 2 misc it means you have less of a chance of getting thr fire true king effect off and he will just be even more more of a break.
@qedsoku849
@qedsoku849 2 жыл бұрын
This is the man who thought engage couldn’t come back
@YuseiTheSynchroHero
@YuseiTheSynchroHero 2 жыл бұрын
I mean TBF, if I see _AQUA_ and some other BS discarded by my Delinquent Duo, I would be like... (๑•﹏•) Also... Speaking of, FARFA, WTF was that comparison with Delinquent and your _FINGERS GETTING CUT OFF_ ಠ_ಠ
@spoof6023
@spoof6023 2 жыл бұрын
Duo is funny to me because there's a psychic support card where you tribute one of your psychic monsters and they shuffle their hand and draw three which was always funny turn one.
@TheSuperf12
@TheSuperf12 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa, you guys should team up and make a unban banlist together.. you could keep each other in check and make it bigger and see what can actually be done
@telepathicdragon
@telepathicdragon 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Farfa, but I love MBT I came here specifically just so i had an excuse to watch MBT's video again.
@crowcoregames1785
@crowcoregames1785 2 жыл бұрын
technilcy you could maybe 2-3 turn kill with a burn efect deck useing ulti offering asuming you set for example flamevail traps before and have ways to normal into fires to get more fires in the grave then use secret barrel + the flamevail trap that burns for damge based on fires in grave but even then they could easly just respond to any of those efects, so thecnilcy it would be more of a 2-3 turn kill but yehhh
@airsoul366
@airsoul366 2 жыл бұрын
Mass Driver is definitely not coming back with Morphtronic Telefon on its way now.
@sdquad6
@sdquad6 2 жыл бұрын
Farfa did you.... Just make this thinking it was a banlist wishlist or something? Do you not understand the actual concept of the ---> Moron
@milobentley9217
@milobentley9217 2 жыл бұрын
The true patient zero of brainworms.
@YGOPD
@YGOPD 2 жыл бұрын
What are these drastically escalating analogies lol
@werzottel601
@werzottel601 2 жыл бұрын
"The end board is already good it does not matter if it becomes better." means literally nothing else than "if you are able to summon auroradon and your opponent is not able to stop your combo, it does not really matter how much the end board is improved in later steps. You will either not be able to win no matter what or you will be able to break that board. The amount of negates does not matter.
@caiooliveira4964
@caiooliveira4964 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making it clear for the people who don't get it
@mitrimind1027
@mitrimind1027 2 жыл бұрын
They could just make a ruling where if they surrender while victory dragon in play, they forfeit the match.
@bluemew22
@bluemew22 2 жыл бұрын
Hey MBT, how about we just hard reset the list and only ban whatever causes problems in Unlimited Format 1 event later?
@justinbrett1227
@justinbrett1227 2 жыл бұрын
Normal summoning Magileine twice a turn? Completely cracked, they'd never let you do that.
@jupiter1518
@jupiter1518 2 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot this isn’t a prediction video…..
@piranha9411
@piranha9411 2 жыл бұрын
Probally just me and a few others but ultimate offering comes off, monarch players would want to normal/tribute summon on their oponent's turn, but thats nieche. Example your oponents turn during battle phase, they try to chain monster offects, you can chain uo tribute into either majesty's fiend to stop the stack, casius to banish something, mobius to destroy two back ground, or even better the mega monarchs or erebus/ehther for more disruption
@FloatingAmongTheCosmos
@FloatingAmongTheCosmos 4 ай бұрын
I love how MBT labelled Farfa as patient zero of brain worms when he predicted Engage being unbanned and he does this. The true brain worms patient zero reveals himself.
@mitrimind1027
@mitrimind1027 2 жыл бұрын
Hey maybe fiber jar can come back if it banished itself and made you lose half your life points. That could work, right?
@rebeccathenaeum
@rebeccathenaeum 2 жыл бұрын
the fact you uploaded this the day after the tournament is very funny to me.
@thefool304
@thefool304 2 жыл бұрын
your finger doesnt have a grave effect
@DeitySkullKid
@DeitySkullKid 2 жыл бұрын
Aqua dolphin also needs you to discard, you give up one to potentially remove one, it also doesn't work (and you get burned) if they have no monsters in hand Delinquent duo doesn't care
@sonikblade
@sonikblade 2 жыл бұрын
Now Farfa (or a representant) needs to play in this tournament and do better then the meta decks! I bet MBT would allow him, even if the brackets were already closed lol
@nigamnation
@nigamnation 2 жыл бұрын
Who remembers when the title of this video was different
@brianwilson7934
@brianwilson7934 2 жыл бұрын
The main problem with Yu-Gi-Oh is that ppl think the answer to each format is to ban a bunch of cards they don't like instead of just letting the power creep sink in
@wonkybiscuit2760
@wonkybiscuit2760 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah with all the going second cards that exist currently, I agree the solution isn’t always a nuclear banlist. We did need certain cards to go this format, just for the health of the game though.
@Kris_King
@Kris_King 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, a reasonable comment? On a Farfa video? Did I enter an alternate universe somehow?
@LilyApus
@LilyApus 2 жыл бұрын
in a game about back and forth plays the mentality that you need to ban strong cards instead of making other cards good/better is very ironic.
@brianwilson7934
@brianwilson7934 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize anyone had even responded to me but cool Also real quick Verte is better than Fusion Destiny because the likelihood of you having two monsters left to make verte is higher than the chance that you naturally drew fusion destiny Fusion Destiny costs less to activate but can also brick your hand with multiple copies. A card's versatility and accessibility is sometimes more important than its stated effects.
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 2 жыл бұрын
@@LilyApus To be fair there are lots of situations where the solution of "make stronger card" causes even more problems. We don't need a card that can out rhongo. That way you just end up creating cards that blanket out everything. Not that konami isn't already playing whack a mole with powercreep on bosses and outs, thats how we ended up with DRNM and Droplet.
@sevensaske
@sevensaske 2 жыл бұрын
this video is literally MBT video...
@emmanuelsilvaruiz
@emmanuelsilvaruiz 2 жыл бұрын
Not if is rocksies!!! That got me lol 😂
@Zerato
@Zerato 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club we meet on Saturdays
@snowwflake1463
@snowwflake1463 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Verte Is just infinitly easier to get to since it's an extra deck monster
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