My good friend Jim pulling his 30-90 Russel Steam Traction Engine on the weight transfer sled at the National Threshers Reunion in Wauseon Ohio 2011.
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@firebird77clonefirebird893 жыл бұрын
A neat fact: steam engines make the greatest torque at lowest speed! Slowing them down actually makes them pull harder!
@mitchellbrown22333 жыл бұрын
Similar to Electric engines
@dr.cummingsoutdoors60923 жыл бұрын
Or a 12v 5.9 Cummins 😂
@aleksankazakov2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellbrown2233 Electric pulls more current under load and create more resistance when slowed down to the point of near pure short circuit meaning they are limited to the source of power even when it is a wire unlike steam engines or just boiling water that has no way to escape forms explosive pressure that is going to escape one way or the other the only limiting factor is the cylinder walls and is not the heat source..
@user-jq5ie2ne7q2 жыл бұрын
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@michaelcrider84132 жыл бұрын
That is neat. Look at the Dyno Data, the torque at the start is near infinite numbers!
@nemo53355 жыл бұрын
imagine showing up with some 40,000 horsepower turbojet powered monstrosity and getting your ass kicked by a 30hp steam tractor.
@gtb81.3 жыл бұрын
it's probably happened somewhere sometime
@reneelenaerts44653 жыл бұрын
It is not the power ist traction
@gtb81.3 жыл бұрын
@@reneelenaerts4465 it is also power, these engines can have 25hp at 900+ lbft torque
@SirSpinalColumn3 жыл бұрын
@@gtb81. I think you’re off by a couple thousand ftlbs there bud
@gtb81.3 жыл бұрын
@@SirSpinalColumn just looked back on it, it was about 5k lbft sorry bout that
@mance9855 жыл бұрын
"Pathetic sled, You think pulling my front wheels off the ground will slow me? It only gives me more traction, muwhahaha"
@rokuthedog5 жыл бұрын
lol thanks for the laugh.
@tractorboy314 жыл бұрын
Good one
@trainfan-ks5hk3 жыл бұрын
While i admit this is a funny comment there is actual danger when it a steam engine goes on an incline or decline see in the firebox and boiler their is a crown sheet which separates the fire tubes and firebox from the water. If the engine goes on an incline all the water comes towards the driver on a decline it goes towards the front of the boiler this is dangerous because of the potential for a boiler explosion if the crown sheet gets to hot and the water suddenly goes back over it the metal will rapidly cool making it brittle When it turns brittle all that steam pressure you built it will quite simply kaboom
@jamesb1202 жыл бұрын
@@trainfan-ks5hk that's a fair point, but remember these are tractors designed for plowing fields. Not smooth rails with little elevation change
@tippyc23 жыл бұрын
It was impressive how the operator hung the front wheels barely an inch off the ground, not rotating as the tractor kept pulling.
@RedesCat5 жыл бұрын
HP: 30 Torque: YES
@markbrown35873 жыл бұрын
All of it!
@UncleDon2263 жыл бұрын
Interesting thing about steam engines, the slower the RPM, the more torque it produces. At higher RPM the steam is in and out of the cylinder too quickly, but as a load is applied, the engine slows down giving the steam inside the cylinder more time to apply expansive force. The end of the run had the torque climb into the thousands. That one last little chuff the piston made at the end was able to lift the tractor off the ground. One stroke of that one piston lifted several tons into the air like it was nothing.
@arthurwheeldon22802 жыл бұрын
The most powerful thing in the world nature wind, water and temperature.
@mandytroxel8103 Жыл бұрын
just like a tesla, they both need to steam to run. 😎
@UncleDon226 Жыл бұрын
@@mandytroxel8103 lol
@YourKeysPlease3 жыл бұрын
All in a days work. And it'll probably still be running in another 100+ years.
@davidisaacson59935 жыл бұрын
Might be slow. But it will pull the house down.
@davidisaacson59934 жыл бұрын
@@steambom3350 Yeah!! I think they pulled the whole farm around with that tractor.
@catey623 жыл бұрын
Legend has it they used these to change the course of rivers.
@pedro14923 жыл бұрын
steady gets the job done
@Wildstar403 жыл бұрын
Build back when nine miles per hour was considered break neck speed.
@georgerapp85026 жыл бұрын
Beautiful machine. Many thanks to the man preserving this working piece of Americana. Absolutely gorgeous.
@Kit_Bear3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for praising this British invention.
@didyou55511 ай бұрын
Patented in the 1890 by a California grain farmer and inventor named Daniel Best, the steam tractor was originally designed to replace teams of draft horses in the fields, but it soon became popular in the timber and mining industries as a means of transporting heavy loads.
@lordj.89624 жыл бұрын
Absolutely massive, massive amounts of torque! Steam is so rad! Love it!
@dunxy4 жыл бұрын
Aint nothing like steam power! Spectacular,what an engine!
@nitro-t64787 жыл бұрын
I don't know anyone who can pull a wheelie in a steam tractor for that long
@dunxy4 жыл бұрын
First one ive ever seen, i never though possible!
@FarmallDoctor4 жыл бұрын
Throttle control, with an expert operator!
@ExploringCabinsandMines9 жыл бұрын
Slow and steady wins the race!
@art-1345 жыл бұрын
Этот паровой трактор столетней давности опустил ниже плинтуса все новейшие крутейшие турбодизельные тракторы с их электронной начинкой !
@electronicshelpcare5 жыл бұрын
wow, that calls old is gold. thanks for your video. I ever saw. Thanks for posting this.
@Mrypants313 жыл бұрын
Can you say it again in English?
@JC-mx7zb3 жыл бұрын
I dont know whats worse, the spelling or the fact ive seen the same comment on other steam tractor pull videos word for word lmao
@raghusahraghusah13053 жыл бұрын
@Brock Main3 the
@1929modelagirl3 жыл бұрын
Won't set any speed records, but don't get in its way! This is a wonderful example of torque over hp
@markfortin4214 жыл бұрын
What a FANTASTIC display of pure power! There is to be nothing but respect from anyone witnessing such a wonderful machine at the prime of its life, doing exactly what it was designed to do....PULL !!
@joewoodchuck38245 жыл бұрын
He stopped because he wanted to. He was on his way to another zip code!
@randyschurter67793 жыл бұрын
That's just old school coolness right there
@howardking36013 жыл бұрын
What a beast! I love those old steam traction engines. There's nothing like them. Hurray for low-tech engineering!
@Bodgemiester6 жыл бұрын
30bhp at 200rpm and a billion foot pounds of torque
@johndowe70035 жыл бұрын
788ftlbs of torque not including any gear reduction
@chubbysumo22305 жыл бұрын
and its gear reduced like 30 to 1, so, it a literal buttload of torque.
@codyramos32005 жыл бұрын
John, at what rpm ? i know every stroke is a power stroke so max power must be low
@johndowe70035 жыл бұрын
i did 30 hp@ 200 rpm that equals 788 then lets say it is geared down to 30-1 like they say that would be 1900 max ft lb of torque @ 6rpm
@sethclark98975 жыл бұрын
Your math it's a bit off. 788 times 30 is a bit more than that
3 жыл бұрын
Me: I lost my job and all my future KZfaq: how about a tractor that looks like a train 🚂 😂
@sledgenwedge3 жыл бұрын
Hope it's not true but if it is heads up when one door closes another opens maybe something better around the corner waiting for you.
@jamesthemotormaniac28073 жыл бұрын
Hope your doing ok man.
@coloradostrong2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesthemotormaniac2807 _you're_ not "your"
@Skarfac3d2 жыл бұрын
This is held just down the road from where I live! Love being so close and hearing those whistles go off in the distance.
@MikeSmith-zn8sr2 жыл бұрын
Was this at wauseon?
@MaineGeezer8 жыл бұрын
With a steam engine, maximum torque is at zero RPM. That's when you have full boiler pressure acting on the piston.
Steam expands. It also goes through a phase change. So what you are saying isn’t necessarily correct.
@willybee30564 жыл бұрын
@ In the older machineries hand books, they show how to calculate the horse power of a spinning flywheel. But, you are right. Top dead center and bottom dead center can be a bugger. But most single cylinders are double firing.
@SMGJohn4 жыл бұрын
@ Most Steam tractors had double acting piston at this age.
@dkrenshaw13 жыл бұрын
Awesome engine and a skilled engineer! Great job!
@matt597365 жыл бұрын
it never ceases to amaze me reading the comments how many people are commenting on a machine they know nothing about if you listen to it and watch it as it's pulling you can see in here that he was actually releasing the throttle he was getting back off of the throttle he was toying with it that thing had a lot more to go! and he did a wonderful job of setting the front end back on the ground without smacking it that really takes some skill to feather that throttle. and another one for you at a hundred pounds of pressure at 250 RPM at takes three thousand foot pounds of torque to equal hundred horsepower.
@maxdavies99584 жыл бұрын
It was pretty obvious he was playing around, He could have pulled a few more of those sleds.
@junaidgt904 жыл бұрын
The Toot 💨 toot 💨 🚂 was epic 👍
@jonathankipps90613 жыл бұрын
The "wheelie" had more to do with the high hitch height than it did with power or smooth operation. At 1:36, you can see the angles of the tow chain. The rear of the tractor is literally being pulled down by the sled weight, which by now, was maxed out all the way forward, and wasn't moving anymore. So all the operator had to do by this point is leave the throttle settings the same, and he'll do a wheelie for the rest of the track.
@jandoerlidoe34123 жыл бұрын
Bravo ! for that Russel traction engine...
@Dan23_76 жыл бұрын
Wow !!! Brilliant 👍🏻 not the worlds quickest tractor pull but executed with grace 👌🏼👌🏼
@dakotaslt2320015 жыл бұрын
It can go much faster, but pulling it off the ground with that kind of torque at that speed and weight would most likely be the end of the machine, the people around it, and then end of steam engines being used for recreational and educational use.
@1929modelagirl5 жыл бұрын
Impressive. And a damned good operator🌞
@stevehess10295 жыл бұрын
Pictures
@justinmoss1018 жыл бұрын
tractor "oh ... am i dragging something"?
@garydos0004 жыл бұрын
Its stretching its legs
@sledgenwedge3 жыл бұрын
I know right?! LOL
@killman3695473 жыл бұрын
Russel: So how much torque do you want in your new tractor? Farmer: Yes.
@rogermetzger73353 жыл бұрын
This video MAY help young people understand how, 100 years ago, steam locomotives could move such ENORMOUS loads.
@kimpatz21892 жыл бұрын
There's also a slogan for any little 2-8-0 consolidation locomotive. "Pulling impressive loads at unimpressive speeds." At that time, it was the best balance of locomotive weight, tractive effort and power. Then theres the 2-8-2 with bigger firebox. This only increased the speeds of this wheel arrangement but still retaining the impressive pulling power. 2-6-x locomotive lacks the tractive effort but can go ridiculous speeds with very large drivers. 2-10-x has excessive tractive effort and limited turning radius.
@rogermetzger73352 жыл бұрын
@@kimpatz2189 Thanks for keeping this kind of information alive. A few days ago, my wife told my sister that I'm a trainiac. I guess I haven't posted my favorite comment about steam engines on this thread: A friend of the author of a book on the subject written a half century ago wrote and introduction to the book: "When we were young men, it seemed to us that nothing could stop these marvelous machines - steam ships and steam locomotives - not hell or high water. Then we got to thinking 'That's what makes them go - hell and high water.' "
@Peter-V_005 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS!
@theGHETTOMAN112 жыл бұрын
YES!! Carried the front wheels most of the way AND its got a sick ass steam whistle!! ; D Steam rules! lol
@Chr.U.Cas22162 жыл бұрын
👍👌👏 Extremely impressive!!! Thanks a lot for making recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health.
@bluesharp594 жыл бұрын
Cool video and a Thumbs Up liked for you.
@Clunk494 жыл бұрын
Front mounted engine helped keep the frontend down. Would like to see a 30hp Minneapolis w/front water tank on the same pull.
@alexblough57394 жыл бұрын
Who's engine was that? Couldn't tell
@majorwedgie81664 жыл бұрын
No school like the old school 😎
@iambiggus5 жыл бұрын
Remember kids, horsepower is just a math equation... Torque is what balls are made of. Ask any Tesla or steam engine operator.
@Bartonovich524 жыл бұрын
Uh.... horsepower is torque over time. And all torque is is force times distance. With enough gearing you could make a 1.5L engine out of a Honda Fit produce more torque than this tractor... it would just be very...... very..... _very_ .... slow. The engines I run have well over 3000 lbs of torque each. But it’s the over 1000 shaft horsepower a side that accelerates it down the runway until it reaches 125 miles an hour in a matter of seconds, then leap off the runway and still _accelerate_ to 200 MPH as it’s climbing a _16 PERCENT_ grade! Then level off above half the atmosphere and accelerate again to 350 miles per hour. This tractor can’t do any of that. Even if you figured out really really really tall gearing for it because the frictional losses would be far too high. It needs most of that low gearing just to move _itself._ But my engines have been used for all manner of purposes. They’re used for helicopters that sling huge loads. They’ve been used to power locomotives. They’ve been used for sports cars, race cars (until they were banned), snow plows, gen sets, etc So no... torque doesn’t rule. And when your time is valuable you want power, too. The Tesla has power in spades (a watt is a measurement of power and is volts times amps and is what actually makes the Tesla move).
@thermidorlevrai654 жыл бұрын
not tesla
@kornaros962 жыл бұрын
Torque means nothing if it's not moving something.
@cryipticcreep55864 жыл бұрын
Not only was the transfer box at the front but the wheels were braked.
@oldschoolgreentube5 жыл бұрын
Its all about torque and traction.
@willybee30564 жыл бұрын
In 1980 I saw the Edna G tug boat. 400 horse, it had trophys where it outran 14000 hp diesel tugs in sprint races.
@FarmallDoctor4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I was privileged to be a guest onboard Cheyenne in this year's Tug Boat race! What great fun! I have a video of the race here on my channel.
@justinytofficial37753 жыл бұрын
That's very strong engine ✌
@YerluvinunclePete2 жыл бұрын
Dude, this was awesome. It looked like something tried to take your first shark as bate! Imagine if you had a second, bigger hook on that rig?
@rapturebound1974 жыл бұрын
You gotta love it man! Old school tough.
@Teesquared003 жыл бұрын
I wasn't alive for the steam age but I wish I was. Love everything about steam power!
@Kit_Bear3 жыл бұрын
Especially the early years with exploding boilers, shearing rivets at mach speed and boiler cracks that blasted the skin off your face with high temperature and pressure steam. Gotta love it.
@dedrakuhn61033 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Very, very cool indeed!
@ionhunter8 жыл бұрын
He was later disqualified for running a Heavy Water Nuclear Reactor.
@brucerogermorgan23886 жыл бұрын
Actually, a Nuclear Reactor wouldn't make it any more powerful - it's just another way of generating the steam! You wouldn't have to refuel it for about 5 years, but . . . .
@SpaceShipDeathstar5 жыл бұрын
Bruce Roger Morgan also cool it constantly for those five years. ;)
@brucerogermorgan23885 жыл бұрын
SSDeathstar, yes, you'd have to do that too, you can't really turn them off!
@crestfallensunbro60015 жыл бұрын
@@brucerogermorgan2388 you can slow a nuclear reactor to near-stop though
@brucerogermorgan23885 жыл бұрын
@@crestfallensunbro6001 Yes, you can slow it down, but the cooling system must remain operational no matter how slow the reaction is, or you will end up with a melt-down.
@jpsholland9 жыл бұрын
Those old steam engines had a re torque from here to the end of time. But you need some time and patience.
@angliscsaxon12882 жыл бұрын
Someone: its a lovely house but it's in the wrong area. Russell steam engine tractor driver: hold my beer🍺...
@fredericmichel62872 жыл бұрын
this is unstoppable
@wilianantoniovieira3 жыл бұрын
Old but gold 😎
@paulie50762 жыл бұрын
Awesome appsolutely awesome 🤘
@oldSawyer12 жыл бұрын
That's one way to keep the crown sheet covered.... carry the front wheels in the air. :-)
@aslkdfjhg Жыл бұрын
That conrod in the engine had several tones of force on it at the end of the run, it must be absolutely huge.
@johnathanfrailey90344 жыл бұрын
Winner of best wheelie goes to steam tractor 👌👌
@MrWhitelightning737 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍🏾👍🏾
@sledgenwedge3 жыл бұрын
Anybody else notice that the sled had to put on the brakes after putting on the weight just to get that thing to stop LOL that's some real power
@brucerogermorgan23886 жыл бұрын
The British never made a Big Boy . . but the Americans never made anything like the Flying Scotsman! Both countries made excellent machinery for the time and place of work, they were just different.
@jimmarshallman63005 жыл бұрын
Big Boy for me ..... EVERY TIME! Jim from AU
@lordofrims4 жыл бұрын
Different works... the big boy was made to carry heavy and long, the flying Scotsman to provide a fast service. Its like comparing a shinkansen to an alco.
@dunxy4 жыл бұрын
We Aussies did ok, in my state Victoria,we had(still have, rusting away in a museum..) heaviest non articulated loco in southern Hemisphere, H220.We also had the lovely S class pacific's which were 3 cyl like the flying scotsman, they were marvelous engines, all 4 scrapped rather secretively in the 50's. They ended their lives with gorgeous streamlining.Some other states had some decent sized Garrets (AD60) as well.Some of our later engines are also rather nice, the R class Hudsons very much so, stoker fed and running roller bearings.Many years ago i was lucky enough to experience a main line cab ride at speeds approaching 80mph,which was a seriously rare thing because at that time (now maybe even less) they were supposed to do no more than 80kmh! If you like locos, check out the ones i mentioned above if you are unaware of them. Flying Scottsman is a marvelous machine, i road behind her in the 80's when she visited us.I spent much time talking to one of the drivers(Barry Dunn IIRC but it was a long time ago) many years after the event and he said it was the finest constructed loco he'd ever driven, very sensitive regulator compared to our local stuff, first time he opened it he induced a massive wheelspin, even though he was being very careful!
@Cragified3 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you but many American steam locomotives were capable of matching a LNER Class A3 4472 such as the Milwaukee Road class F7.
@lilbigrigw990410 ай бұрын
Big boy is where it’s at
@MrSrtdan3 жыл бұрын
Never knew locomotives could go off road, nice.
@Duetmaster23 жыл бұрын
The larger ones were actually called "road locomotives."
@lilbigrigw990410 ай бұрын
This is where our farm tractors come from and then our semi trucks. It was horse, then train, then steam tractor, then normal farm and tractors and semis
@MerlinOpeth3 жыл бұрын
So much torque she's doing a wheelie all the way to the finish.
@ofenfrischeritaliener44413 жыл бұрын
We don't need electric cars we need the smell of an genius made engune
@wahidtrynaheghugh2603 жыл бұрын
Steam power is way way more efficient. Had we kept on engineering steam engines, we’d have some crazy machines on our hands. Unfortunately the fuel used to create steam like wood has a far lower energy density than something like gasoline, and has less range because of it. Steam power is badass.
@FarmallDoctor3 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir!!
@GrumpyIan2 жыл бұрын
Also when they failed the explosion is alot more devastating.
@nathanielhill81568 ай бұрын
@@GrumpyIanthat has more to do with 1890s safety culture than a design flaw. We use much more powerful steam engines today without that same fear of exploding.
@yetanotherjohn3 жыл бұрын
So when Grandma told me she loved watching her daddy pop a wheelie when he ran his steam engine... she WAS NOT KIDDING.
@reedvending23848 жыл бұрын
here, i will drag you to get more weight for the sled...
@JZ-vg6ke3 жыл бұрын
What a pro
@tonyloechte99942 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎
@RJ1999x6 жыл бұрын
8000 series Allis Chalmers cab on the eliminator!
@charlesparr32964 жыл бұрын
And the torque rating on this tractor is yes, all of it!!!
@raviamble19024 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@redcarpetlounge13 жыл бұрын
RIGHT THERE!MAN OH MAN!
@patrickrobinson12627 жыл бұрын
redcarpetlounge American abell 28hp
@tommallon40525 жыл бұрын
I think you're gonna need a bigger sled.
@lawrencegenereux85675 жыл бұрын
Now THATS my kind of "drag race".
@seankennedy55025 жыл бұрын
You won't bate stame !!!! 💪😄 Love these old Engines !
@exilfromsanity8 жыл бұрын
He's playing with it. He could walk out at full RPM if he wanted to.
@FarmallDoctor8 жыл бұрын
+Luckystrike You are right... but my good friend Jim is a skilled engineer and likes to put on a good show! There's no feeling like pulling the sled out the end with a steam engine! I've done it many times and it never gets old.
@nomon954 жыл бұрын
here are 2 factors:the gear reduction 30:1 says and fo2 200 rpm the torque is approx 100kgr.m at the wheels is 3000 kgr.m
@Electronieks3 жыл бұрын
Farmall Doctor ok
@timesthree57573 жыл бұрын
@@nomon95 how do you know that is torque? Do you know piston diameter, stroke legnth, steam pressure, valve size, is it double acting, single acting, steam pipe size, flywheel weight, governor setting? All of these affects torque in a dig way. For steam pressure. An example. You will get more torque from 100psi then 50psi. You have know idea what the torque is.
@nomon953 жыл бұрын
@@timesthree5757 yes y know how is torque.
@brandoncaldwell952 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling they better be production of these tractors again. Way fuel prices are going, im tempted to have one back in the field. May take me 3 days to mow, but at least i have the wood to supply it.
@garniful2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about all of these It's probably powerful more than most people could think
@GrumpyIan2 жыл бұрын
Jay Leno has a few videos about steam powered cars. If I recall in one he said the car made something like ~90 horsepower and ~1000 footpounds of torque.
@garniful2 жыл бұрын
@@GrumpyIan 💞 Lovely oldies Bless them 🌹✋
@TanerNilluhktaf3 жыл бұрын
Someone: How much torque does it have? Steam tractor: Yassss!
@gedungisphoopnuchle91212 жыл бұрын
Stack talking 🎶yeah yeah, Stack talking 🎶
@jamest.50013 жыл бұрын
So that's what spins the earth!
@DisloalSking Жыл бұрын
Homens empinam motos... lendas empinam motores a vapor
@faerieSAALE4 жыл бұрын
And to think that we purposefully threw steam power aside for diesel, gasoline, and electricity. STEAM IS THE BOSS AND WILL REMAIN SO FOREVER.
@rodneyjohnson63132 жыл бұрын
Behold the power of steam
@bsimpson62043 жыл бұрын
Next run we'll give it full throttle !!
@herauthon3 жыл бұрын
this ancient water processor has quite a few pipelines for its age !
@9736grunn4 жыл бұрын
Full pull !!!
@buntik16872 жыл бұрын
Basically a steam locomotive doing slow drag.
@superkas3 жыл бұрын
I just feels like wanna push that kind of honk just only once in my life time
@kovu71913 жыл бұрын
Imagine if pulling was around in the days of steam tractors, that would've been something else
@GoingtoHecq3 жыл бұрын
Back then it would have just been a series of explosions. Safety was a voluntary thing.
@gundorethemighty3 жыл бұрын
if never been on one . Man theses things where some work horses . yes it took awhile to get them started . an yes they where slow as all hell . but they could pull just about anything
@joesmith-jb4ls5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the 9ld girl work
@mikaelabowen57817 жыл бұрын
Nigh on unstoppable.
@kevinragsdale62563 жыл бұрын
What is the gear ratio on something like that?
@alexblough57394 жыл бұрын
Hey, this is at weasseon Ohio! Idk if I spelled that right lol.
@FarmallDoctor4 жыл бұрын
Wauseon
@MyNameIsChristBringsASword3 жыл бұрын
the secret is to keep the front wheels down so the pipes in the boiler are evenly heating
@stealthtrees963 жыл бұрын
First time I've ever seen one hang the front end
@StefanBlurr5 жыл бұрын
Lol, that's CJ in the back of the tractor
@michigandon6 жыл бұрын
Is this the same Russell that used to belong to the Bunyeas? Sure looks like it.
@vrokkronos56223 жыл бұрын
They say money makes the world spin round. Pretty sure it's just this guy's tractor.