Hikaru went from a chess content creator to a kramnik content creator

Kramnik complaining about Hikaru farming in chess is crazy cuz now Hikaru is farming him for content lol

We need to start a petition to get Kramnik's kids to protect his legacy by disconnecting his internet.

You can tell Kramnik is a big fan of Levy's channel. Never resign no matter how bad your position looks. He has really taken that to heart.

Kramnik: "I get harassed on the Internet" Fabi: "Bruh, it's the Internet 😅"

If farming 2900’s is cheating whats it called when you get farmed by 1200’s? Asking for a friend

Kramnik overstimated his position, and now his pawns are over-extended.

hey, kramnik clearly consulted his 10 favorite mathemeticians. and if this gets anymore complicated, hes gunna have to take his socks off and ask ten more.

Dang, Fabiano is actually a really smart guy.

Kraminik is now just trying to make a point no matter what

Fabiano is so careful in the use of his words to mean what he intends them to mean and nothing more.. he would have made an excellent scientist/engineer...

Watching Kramnik go crazy is like watching an accident happen. Horrifying, yet fascinating

Fabi needs to put himself out there more. The more you see of him, the more you like him.

As a daycare employee I saw a grown man enter and promptly start punching all the kids. I immediately used what Kramnik taught me and immediately questioned the man on how did his opponents underperformed that fight.

Kramnik is just turning into Fischer at this point

If I play my friend(s) and there's a rating disparity, we're still allowed to play. It's called chess, and since the dawn of chess beginnings, this type of "farming" hasn't been thought of as cheating until Kramnik "invented" mathematics.

Oh, so streaks WERE bad because the were supposedly impossible without cheating and now they are bad because they are too easy if you play weaker opponents? Kramnik is a joke.

I’m not a big fan of Fabi, but what Kramnik said towards Fabi’s very measured response is really really tragic. Kramnik is losing respect daily. Truly sad.

For someone who isn’t accusing Hikaru of cheating he really seems to want it to be true

Kramnik deserves a "Chess Content Creator of the Year Award". No one else is even close. Sorry, Hikaru.

This feels like elder abuse, and Kramnik is only 48 years old!

Honestly at this point the only evaluation that's necessary is a psychological evaluation of Kramnik since he's clearly lost his marbles

Hikaru is a good sport here. Love how he takes it lightly and acknowledges the fairness in Fabiano's statements too eg re farming.

One point I have not heard is that for "the rest of us" being farmed by Hikaru would be a badge of honour! The chance of playing a legend is well worth whatever points we have. This is like getting an autograph!

At last Hikaru said it. “Kramnik has lost his mind”. Yes, he has lost it. Very said, but true.

This cheating drama actually motivated me to take Statistics class. Thanks to Kramnik

I see people saying Kramnik should be sued for defamation. I don't think that's the way to go because the person who's losing their reputation here is Kramnik himself. I agree with Hikaru that something will need to be done if this continues, either ban or just ignore everything he says.

Hikaru dunks on Kramnik so thoroughly that he's got a career in the NBA lined up

Fabi didn't even seem to want to take part in this, he's just having a podcast and sharing his thoughts. And Kramnik's still trying to drag him into the mud fight. Behavior of a butthurt child, heart filled with hatred.

1:55 : I would amend the statement "If you play around with numbers you can prove anything" to be more accurate to say "You can play around with numbers and make it look like you're proving something to people who aren't well educated in mathematics.". The original statement makes it sound like statistics are worthless. They aren't. But, it's easy to fool people with statistics.

If Kramnik is trolling this would be a masterpiece😂😂

Gotta love Fabis way of explaining his thoughts

Fabinao- Makes sure to not mention the names of the people Hikaru- Welp, might as well tell the names.

I'm glad C-Squared guys explain this obvious fact for old goats like Kramnik who don't get it. 😂

$20 bucks says Kramnik threatens to sue Hikaru for making him the lady on the thumbnail…

I don't know if anyone else has pointed it out, but this setup you are using temporarily is actually very pleasant and professional in appearance. Personally, I would seek to continue this presentation after your other computer arrives.

You either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain. Kramnik's lost his mind.

The fault of Kramnik here is that he fails to understand that a top player would willingly play against players who are considerably weaker than him. Kramnik comes from a world/time when top players would face each other in chess to show dominance. So Kramnik believes that everyone Hikaru faces must be his equals (in skill and ability), in which case the 45.5/46 would be nearly impossible. Also, Kramnik has dug himself into a hole. He believes himself to be the smartest man in the room, thus he cannot adequately express an apology anymore since he would see that as being weak, so he feels he must fight his corner to the death. The best way to end this is to stop reacting and let him yell in the middle of the public square like a fool until he tires himself out.

I really like how well educated in Caruana. He seems not only chess-smart, but real world smart.

Fabi out here dropping truthbombs

Talk about a lawsuit. You could probably sue him for defamation.

That rundown of the "names" of people who signed the petition had me laughing out loud. 🤣

I would love for Hikaru to destroy this guy over the board few times . What will he say then 😂

Kramnik and Hikaru need to settle this with a 1000 game blitz chess competition.

Kramnik has just become an old angry man who knows nothing

Hikaru is farming Kramnik for content like Levy farms Magnus :) I like it

15:53 "Cheaters should speak for themselves." had me rolling

he should be glad you are farming so that he will lose less ELO when he plays Hikaru

Fabi is so much more the sound of reason and logic, very level-headed and controlled response.

Kramnik and hikaru, magnus and levi Dynamic duos are everywhere

Kramnik crossed the line when disrespecting our beloved Fabi

Hikaru’s wife has appeared to sign the petition as well. Trouble in paradise? Lol. 16:37

Another day, another way to exploit all the good good content from Kramnik Very nice

When Fabi said that the statistics that say that online chess cheating is not as prevalent are easily refuted, I thought it was just another top level player being overconfident in their understanding of statistics, but honestly I felt that he made very good points. The model used likely didn't consider people who have manipulated their rating within the rules, or people who have not played OTB in a long period of time.

the thing is we all know hikaru farms and he's never hidden it and does it live and openly so if you personally consider it cheating you're free to do so but other people will just disagree with you and there's nothing to actually investigate

Can we just have Fabiano for President of Earth already?!

Kramnik is digging his own grave. Keep it up mate 😂 it’s only going to get worse for him

Farming is not cheating; it is a calculated risk. On the other hand, using a chess engine is. Now Kramnik is just grasping at straws.

Hikaru, looking forward to seeing you in candidates! Good luck

I'm older then Kramnik but still know what farming is. Admittedly I've been playing computer games for longer then Hikaru has been alive so that may play a part in it. Hell, I remember farming NPCs for XP in a MUD that I played in 1990... :/

Hikaru is farming Kramnik for content.

Great content! Hikaru is really lucky!

Not surprising that a dozen “Fabiano”s signed the petition. I want to know know how many times “Hikaru” signed.

Kramnik isn't saying farming isn't cheating, he's saying that it's not mathematically possible if both players are correctly rated and not cheating. He misses the fact that someone might be better at 3+1 or 3+2 than 3+0, but they share a rating, and also is still missing the fact that streaks such as Hikaru went on are LIKELY if you play enough total games.

respect for how you're handling this without threatening legal action

This is so entertaining. Chess is the new netflix!

Hikaru has infectious laugh😂

Back in the day, I used to farm Computer1-EASY (that computer no longer exists, so you can tell how long ago this was). I had a couple of 100+ game winning streaks against it, and managed to get my blitz rating to close to 1900, even though I was a 1200-1300 player against humans.

The simplest point is: it takes 1 person to challenge and 1 to accept

As soon as chess went online it essentially became a video game, and gamers have been farming since before the internet.

Kramnik digging deeper and deeper, gonna find oil soon

Ive said it once and I'll say it again: Kramnik's behavior resembles the results of years of alcohol abuse. Totally out of touch with reality, overestimation of his own intelligence and skill, inability to consider things from another perspective, impossible to reason with, paranoid that everything is a conspiracy against him, nonsensical rambling on social media and picking fights with any and everyone that expresses opinions other than his own. If I were a gambling man, I'd feel comfortable placing a large bet on Kramnik being an alcoholic. I have seen this sort of thing happen time and again with friends and family who can't put the drink down. And I've seen a few finally put the drink down and see how ridiculous they acted and change. I know some people won't like me calling someone I don't know an alcoholic but I don't care, I'm quite sure of it. If its not alcohol, its prescription drugs.

Fabiano's stare is intense, but he's very chill

Can someone please explain to Kramnik what a hypothesis test is? At this point I swear he's drawing the conclusion that if he doesn't understand an argument it must be wrong. This is brutal.

Kramnik is now just an old man yelling at clouds

Magnus, the perpetual farmer.

Wow Kramnik made Hikaru more Famous 😂 and Vice versa

Seeing Hikaru laugh at Fabi roasting 10 second "chess" at 13:39 is hysterical!

Fabiano: breath Hikaru : exactly, thats definitely true

Kramniks fight for relevance (BTW: on the wrong field) that destroys everything he had achieved is tragic in the Greek sense of the word.

I love how Fabiano doesnt dive into the mathematics but approacges it philosophically saying the rating difference isn’t equal to real strength difference and this implied that real games and blitz games online cant be compared as the same thing

It's not ethical to play someone weaker Hikaru! Magnus: who am i playing now 🙂

I don't think I'm gonna watch this right now, but I had to pop in and say that's a LEGENDARY thumbnail😂

I'll start a band with the name "Kramnik and the mathematicians". It sounds so cool! :D

Fabi just looks like such a nerd! Type of dude walks into a room and everyone expects a lecture, and that the lecture will be informative and good.

guess hikaru has now been outed as a FARMER hikaru: laughs hysterically

excellent take from fabiano

Kramnik is exactly like my friend who believes in aliens... writes the same way with capital letters

Kramnik going full Bobby Fischer.

Hikaru constantly sounds like a middle aged man ordering at a drive thru

Cramnick - keep investigating until I’m right!!!

Kramnick going full bobby fisher

Interesting that both Karjakin and Kramnik have effectively removed themselves from chess for the rest of their lives. They chose slightly different methods, but the same result.

Stockfish has been consulting hiraku 😂

Kramnik is being a grandpa. He is just completely out of touch with the online world. It’s sad, but with the world getting ever more complex, it is going to happen to all of us about something eventually. I just hope we don’t have as many eyes on us when it does.

Kramnik giving hikaru free content

Kramnik drafting a new blog post in response to this video as we speak.

Kramnik yell's at clouds

“He cars” is my favourite chess streamer

You should thank Kramnik. As content creator this is a real big reclame