grindcore is if metalheads lived in an amazon warehouse

You'd be surprised how many locations offer showers! ... nobody uses

@@Farvann just the way it should be us crust heads and grindcore fans must stay trve to our roots

Well, I'm one step closer to grindcore then

Wrong, that is crust punk

​@@viniciusfrattafritz4547 grind is an offshoot of crust. Punk>hardcore>crust>grind Never heard the saying ''in grind we crust''?

I see it more like old school DM with Hardcore Punk/crossover. D.R.I is crossover btw which is thrash mixed with Hardcore punk 😂

@@shagstars I know D.R.I., I am old enough for that (44yo). Their style has been described as "Crossover Thrash". The Exploited - Beat the Bastards, releases in 1996, was also considered as "Crossover Thrash". I also like the old stuff of The Exploited, when they were "Street Punk" and "UK82".

@@ChuckyDoll79 the exploited of early 80s was fun yeah. Fuck the usa! 🤣

I thought it was from a cespool full of shit mixed with nuclear waste.

It's more like an evolution of "thrashcore', starting with DRI, then stuff like Septic Death, Siege, Electro Hippies, etc. Although most early grindcore bands were "Crust Punk" first, feels weird to have it in that equation . I mean, how can Amebix and Extreme Noise Terror be in the same subgenre, right?

True, but shhhh 🤫

OR the other way around! It's still not clear whether death metal or grindcore existed first

Hardcore subgenres take from metal and metal subgenres take from hardcore. The majority of both was influenced by the other, or even a lot of music that we call "metal" actually evolved not from metal at all, but was called metal only because of the dark satanic aesthetic associated with it (e.g. black metal literally grew out of punk and only later on evolved into stuff that could be called metal when newer waves starting mixing black metal with actual metal influences), or even thrash metal is literally a mix of heavy metal and hardcore (especially the rhythmics of thrash are taken grom hc/punk) and so on. Nothing about modern music genres existed in a bubble and you can't entirely separate metal and hardcore, there is more overlap between them than what could be considered "pure" either in all of existence.

@@TimmyTurner421pretty sure dm existed first. Scum was released in 87 and is generally considered the first grindcore album, while Possessed’s Seven Churches was released in 85, and that’s the first death metal album. And Jeff from Possessed coined the term “death metal” as early as 1983

No shit

powerviolence is the punk version of grindcore, grindcore is the metal version of powerviolence :P

so then metalcore is the stepbrother and the child of its mothers (hcpunk) embarrassing affair with pop music and tries to get accepted by its stepfather (metal) by annoyingly identifying as a son of metal lol

​@@sausagewater484sumed up perfectly

metalcore is the step child, DUR!!!@@sausagewater484

​@@sausagewater484nooooot really "metalcore" in its original form came about in the late 80s and early 90s with bands like Judge, Earth Crisis, Ringworm, and Integrity that took the slower, heavier, and grittier styles of hardcore punk and mixed in thrash & first wave black metal, even occasionally death metal (this would be the earliest incarnations of "deathcore"), what you're referring to is what happened when hardcore punk started falling by the wayside in popularity behind pop punk and metal became so marginalized in the popular music space that only melodic death metal and extremely flowery power metal were making it through to the MySpace generation as "relevant"

No Grindcore is loved by its parents Its the siblings that are less loved😂

just a little slow!

And of course, too long.

Brutal Truth :)

Went to a 3 days grindcore festival once. Best two hours of my life.

@@Bazelf That sounds awesome man! 🤣🤣

they played 85 songs

Thank you! My channel is called 'Eric & Frank TV'

Yeah, after making a new video for Atmospheric Black Metal I decided to remake some of these old videos. It's fun and motivating.

​@@Farvann love this idea, hope to see more!!

@@Farvann is next week's video going to be a remake as well?

@@Thomas_17 I don't even know if there's going to be a new video next week. But I hope so!

@@Farvann you're just as organised as me 😂

Just like this comment is an extrem (sic) form of banal idiocy

@@8523wsxc maiby you are ignorant about early grind music

I've always seen Napalm Death as a form of metal. Guess I live eand learn. Anyway, I'm a metalhead and I love grindcore as well.

napalm death were influenced by metal even on their first album, before they called themselves grindcore they called themselves thrashcore not crust punk

@@itscorvid358 "hardcore punk". Read something more about them.

Sort of. I think the genre powerviolence is a better example of that Most bands play very tight while fcking with time signatures and tempos. Highly recommend the band No Comment and their EP Downsided if you've never heard the genre!

@@Sergio-nb4hj True, Powerviolence is great

Oh, yes, absolutely. I mean, it's common knowledge that hacks like Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, Fear, and Rich Kids on LSD were horrible musicians. I mean, just listen to their tight rhythm sections and shredding guitar players to hear just what I mean. Total amateur hour.

The myth that punk comes from people not having music skills was a weird marketing trick to get interest from the public in bands like pistols, damned and clash and their new york equivalents by the promoters flogging the product, it then lead to a bunch of regional copycat scenes which resulted in either crap party bands or gradually developing competent musicianship on the part of so called punks. American hardcore is even weirder because despite the fact that it was even more grass roots than 77 era punk the members of bands like bad brains and dead kennedys came from prog backgrounds. The idea of punk being unskilled comes from the fact that it was a minimalist music movement designed to counteract the mid 70's stadium rock scene which was exclusively populated by very high tier musicians. Waay too many early 80's hardcore bands were made by exceptional musicians, just minimalists instead of musically decadent and indulgent like prog starts were at the time. The real problem here is that long haired metal dudes literally too much of the time don't know a fucking THING about other genres of music, embarrassingly so the genres that influenced and shaped it into what extreme metal has been since the 80's. Just try minutemen, nomeansno, die kreuzen, articles of faith, the effigies, all are made by competent musicians.

Wtf, no. How did you get this impression?

Cringe

He posted it like five seconds ago......

Supporters get the videos a few days earlier

@@Farvann Oh ok

@@themanonguitar3398 mere mortal, it's Octoman, he's always on time! Even when he's late!

War metal is a good combo of the two

@@Signal_in_the_noise I definitely dig war metal.

Why would a warehouse have a basement? For forklifts to fall into? Had a job?

@@FardtilUshid to do k in duh

Exactly this dude is trippin

Oh yes and they are a better audience as well

@@Farvannyes they like to have fun

Yeah the editing was fun! But also very time consuming hahaha

farvann stays in sex

Mostly just the deep guitar sounds and speed, mixed with the vocal styles, is why it gets lumped into metal. I’d say

Completely agree with you​@@s.t.5590

what the hell is "Thrashcore"? is that a new genre you kids made up? i don't like it *grumps*

@@randomdudelife Unfortunately the sub-genres of sub-genres of sub-genres of sub-genres will likely never stop.

​@@s.t.5590Thrashcore is a term thats been used since the late 80s, youre just ignorant lmao

You never know!

That would be grindrcore.

To be fair pornogrind exists

Actually no, I was in Tucson only. And I landed in Phoenix, didn't see any tents 😅

ND stopped being pure grindcore around early 90s, but they have never lost this hardcore punk/post-punk/crust punk base from which they came. Even today, you can still hear all of those influences in their sound even though they brought many metallic elements and styles.

The mods on that site genuinely believe that Infant Annihilator's first 2 albums aren't metal, only their last one... I dont even need to explain how moronic that is, do I?

Gulch

Buzz and riff

"I think it's better to say offspring, not subgenre" 🧐

*gone wholesome

hahaha