Fat Joe Tells Jim Jones Why Big L Went After Mase In Harlem | 2020

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3 жыл бұрын

During a recent Instagram Live Stream, Fat Joe sat down with the "We Fly High" Hitmaker Jim Jones! In this live stream, Fat Joe explained why Big L went at Mase In Harlem New York! Jim Jones also speaks on why Cam'ron had beef with Mase.
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@dollaman2745
@dollaman2745 13 күн бұрын
Who else is here after made told this story on “ it is what it is “ ?
@themollymachine
@themollymachine 13 күн бұрын
yup... yo why is jim hating so much
@marcusw7117
@marcusw7117 13 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@liverightgetmoneyent
@liverightgetmoneyent 12 күн бұрын
YUP 😂😂
@SeymourCoochie92
@SeymourCoochie92 12 күн бұрын
Facts 😭
@MegaSilvabak
@MegaSilvabak 12 күн бұрын
Meeeeee..lol
@dpizzle911
@dpizzle911 13 күн бұрын
Everyone was pocket watching Mase and didn’t even know what was going on!!💯
@Sportsguy0258
@Sportsguy0258 12 күн бұрын
All the girls loved Mase. It pissed everyone off except Cam because he was getting girls to
@Forever.Remain.Nameless
@Forever.Remain.Nameless 12 күн бұрын
Puff wasn't paying Mase right and the hood thought Mase was rich rich. Recipe for disaster....
@fabolousjada5070
@fabolousjada5070 11 күн бұрын
@@Sportsguy0258facts
@awsohmvision
@awsohmvision 10 күн бұрын
Communication is key!!! Mase should have kept it 💯 instead he was frontin like he had it but really didn’t. He even said that.
@Sportsguy0258
@Sportsguy0258 9 күн бұрын
@@awsohmvision lol aye so does everyone in Harlem.
@anwarmangum7673
@anwarmangum7673 Жыл бұрын
Okay but Mase taught Jim how to rap and introduced Cam to BIG which led to Cam's first record deal. That's worth a lot more than they are giving Mase credit for.
@jaybeswick9062
@jaybeswick9062 Жыл бұрын
Yea but mase ain't from nyc or New York so you are supposed to look out for those that protect you and look out for you etc ! People thought mase was from Harlem he from Georgia you see him put anybody from Georgia or even talk about Georgia ? He sold nyc cause that was before Georgia became a hip hop mecca now u got mad cats from Georgia who do tracks with nyc but not mase think about that you from new york and Georgia and nobody f**KS with you from either state 💯 that's on your character not on anybody else 🤔
@therealliveguy
@therealliveguy Жыл бұрын
Teaching how to fish is much more valuable than handing out fish. Takes wisdom to understand.
@wilsonfisk4741
@wilsonfisk4741 6 ай бұрын
It was cam who thought Jim Jones to rap and big l and herb mcgruff black Rob help cam bloodhed mase etc how to tighten the writing skills and points and tips on developing there flow big facts
@freshrich736
@freshrich736 3 ай бұрын
​@@wilsonfisk4741mase taught Jones how to Rap and he came up with the name diplomats too
@wilsonfisk4741
@wilsonfisk4741 3 ай бұрын
@freshrich736 no it was cam and blood shed who taught jim and mase came up with harlem world with cam cam come up with diplomats thus harlem world diplomats a combination of sorts and the reason they both have harlem world tattooed on there arms none the less
@themollymachine
@themollymachine 13 күн бұрын
here because of "it is what it is"
@davebutz2448
@davebutz2448 Жыл бұрын
Mase said he didn't have it like that when they thought he did but by the time he did really get the bag, too much drama and damage had been done to their relationships for him to give back the way he really wanted to smh. I still don't get how the next man feels someone owes them anything. smh
@grav9992
@grav9992 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have been trying to count his pockets for him
@dwayne-wayne
@dwayne-wayne Жыл бұрын
He didn't have it puff was fucking erybody
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 7 ай бұрын
They held mase down for years and took care of him its only right he give back
@hyyerr83
@hyyerr83 2 ай бұрын
I hate when guys dont understand friends thats IN THE HOOD! If i get rich... im not leavin my main homies out. ESPECIALLY if we all looked out for each other.
@gucci_got_ink
@gucci_got_ink 13 күн бұрын
Mase the reason they all got deals he taught him how to rap and brought cam to biggie.
@Hollywood24163
@Hollywood24163 13 күн бұрын
If u notice they secretly hate mase
@montelay8943
@montelay8943 13 күн бұрын
They hate my boy Murda
@ToasterForLife
@ToasterForLife Жыл бұрын
When the underdog wins, they hate. Mase did introduce Cam'Ron to Biggie. Walked him into his bedroom.
@prodigy513
@prodigy513 Жыл бұрын
Pause, but yeah.
@FitsUWeddings
@FitsUWeddings Жыл бұрын
Facts, pause but facts
@dujuanjohnson5025
@dujuanjohnson5025 Жыл бұрын
And taught Jimmy how to rap
@freshrich736
@freshrich736 3 ай бұрын
​@@dujuanjohnson5025and came up with the name diplomats too
@Maczomba1
@Maczomba1 Жыл бұрын
Mase was the genius in Harlem, he became a millionaire at 18… he didn’t have carry the whole hood.
@DM-lj2mn
@DM-lj2mn Жыл бұрын
Without Mase there is no Dipset dude opened up the flood gates for Harlem and Camron connection to him is what got him signed
@KingMK31
@KingMK31 Жыл бұрын
@@DM-lj2mn If you didn't know Cam would have went with Biggie at one point in his career!
@nathanamazin8464
@nathanamazin8464 Жыл бұрын
@@DM-lj2mn without Big L there’d be no Mase
@HARDWORKCORP
@HARDWORKCORP Жыл бұрын
@@nathanamazin8464 That's where ur wrong...L had the deal 1st, but didn't have the pull or power to put ppl on to bigger deals. He may have influenced style-wise but Mase didn't get his deal that changed his life thru L connections or promotion
@charlielongstick7157
@charlielongstick7157 Жыл бұрын
Not smart enough to not fuck w ppl he couldn’t beat🤷🏾‍♂️.
@jason-fu6tc
@jason-fu6tc Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Mase done blew Chrissy’s back out 🤣🤣🤣
@TheEsquireOfSports
@TheEsquireOfSports 12 күн бұрын
So did Po, and Jimmy never fixed his mouth to speak about him lmao he knew better.
@ronmatthews
@ronmatthews 11 күн бұрын
She touched it in Miami LMAO
@kslay14
@kslay14 10 күн бұрын
​@@ronmatthews lol word?
@timharris1675
@timharris1675 9 күн бұрын
​@@kslay14Free The Boss Don😎
@kslay14
@kslay14 9 күн бұрын
@@timharris1675 is that something to look up on KZfaq or what
@raulsalazar6362
@raulsalazar6362 Жыл бұрын
If everyone around Mase didn't let Jealousy take over them they all could have ate more than they did
@dagmantv
@dagmantv Жыл бұрын
Jim Jones: "Mase wasn't a hustler or never knew how to make money..." ... 🤷🏿‍♂️ But we all know Mase signed to BadBoy before any of them got legitimate deals! You can tell why Mase didn't do nothing for any of them because there is a hateful tone to what Jim is saying... Listen to how Memphis Bleek and TyTy talk about Jay; Banks and Ayo talk about 50; Dr Dre talk about Easy-E and PAC; even the Lox and Diddy... No matter what these dudes might go through they always give their bread winner the credit he deserves or is owed... And what I mean by that is Cam and Jim constantly dig out Mase like he's a punk but talk like he should have been helping them, make it make sense. You can't clown a man and then expect handouts.
@stocksinvestments2788
@stocksinvestments2788 Жыл бұрын
🤔 damn that’s something to think about
@youbetterknowityoubettersa2685
@youbetterknowityoubettersa2685 Жыл бұрын
Look at the million dollars worth of game podcast with Mase he explains it
@dagmantv
@dagmantv Жыл бұрын
@@youbetterknowityoubettersa2685 I have and it's basically they were hating on him believing he had more than he had and wasn't sharing the bag. So when he did finally have the bag, he was already at war with them so he couldn't share it.
@Camjj89
@Camjj89 Жыл бұрын
As much as I rock with Cam and Jimmy, I gotta agree with you on that. Jim Jones seem like he still has ill feelings toward Mase
@jh8567
@jh8567 Жыл бұрын
@@Camjj89 he grew up thinking hes better than mase, and mase taught him how to rap and make a living. And he cant face it. so he talks down on mase to feel better about it.
@pro2callmuzik
@pro2callmuzik 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Jones acts like he really grew up with Mase. Cam Cleary said Jim isn't from Harlem and they didn't grow up together. Mase taught Jimmy how to rap
@khalilburks5331
@khalilburks5331 Жыл бұрын
Bra if u around nigga at 16 17 years old u definitely grew up with them
@daddyfamlittle6262
@daddyfamlittle6262 Жыл бұрын
Yup!!!
@pookeyrich8974
@pookeyrich8974 Жыл бұрын
His was born Bronx but he grew up in harlem
@jhonstarks4693
@jhonstarks4693 Жыл бұрын
U from the town?
@HessKnows
@HessKnows Жыл бұрын
Jim stayed with his granny in Harlem so he came up with cam and mase them was his niggas Jim not cappin
@vlmshv
@vlmshv 9 ай бұрын
They trying to re-write history. Conveniently left out the part that Big L’s NFL crew took a bad boy chain of one of the members prior and then big L wore that chain to the tunnel. Puffy obviously told mase he had to get at Big L and get that chain back since they both from Harlem and came up together. Jimmy been hating on mase his whole career. Shit lame
@DJBugsy215
@DJBugsy215 7 ай бұрын
😮
@jonstorm1484
@jonstorm1484 7 ай бұрын
​@@DJBugsy215who jimmy😅
@user-nc9ms5my4n
@user-nc9ms5my4n 2 ай бұрын
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@TheEsquireOfSports
@TheEsquireOfSports 12 күн бұрын
That last line... 100%. I witnessed the early part of that before I left Harlem the first time in '99. I don't fw jimmy hard to this day because he always been a snake.
@nikreece7955
@nikreece7955 11 күн бұрын
Damn that’s deep
@SLSMe
@SLSMe Жыл бұрын
For those that don’t kno Ma$e corroborated this part of the story. The issues began when his homies started believing he had money he didn’t really have. He got signed to a deal and they expected kickback but he didn’t have it like that.
@franklingreene3132
@franklingreene3132 Жыл бұрын
My lol I’m I’m M N
@hrrspaul4
@hrrspaul4 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@brianteague44
@brianteague44 Жыл бұрын
Agreed...Diddy was the blame cuz Mase ain't have the paper like he was flexing like he did.
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 7 ай бұрын
Rightfully because ppl was holdin him down before he got paper
@Nekowhite93
@Nekowhite93 7 күн бұрын
Even if he HAD the money, why would he owe them ANYTHING?
@Rambunctious216
@Rambunctious216 Жыл бұрын
Heard Jim wasn't really bout that life either.
@kno2much597
@kno2much597 Жыл бұрын
Mase said "give me the catalog I'll show you how daddy ball"
@wafe107
@wafe107 9 ай бұрын
Big L was that dude. His punchlines were other worldly and his charisma was different. Top 3 dead or alive for me.🙏🏾🎤
@300quid
@300quid 2 ай бұрын
the illest to ever do it💙
@phillysmallz1
@phillysmallz1 10 күн бұрын
@@300quid🤣🤣🤣
@nivek1660
@nivek1660 10 күн бұрын
@@300quidStole from Mase and Nas
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness 10 күн бұрын
​@nivek1660 everybody took a little something from someone else. Lyrically mase is not even close to L no disrespect
@nivek1660
@nivek1660 10 күн бұрын
@@AllPersonalNothingBusiness This is your opinion. L took from Mase not the other way around. Mase didn’t take from L and was sick with the lyrics. Just because you prefer Big L it doesn’t make him the better rapper/lyricist. It’s your personal preference.
@scLefQ
@scLefQ Жыл бұрын
Listen to what Jimmy says..."Me and Cam was about hustlin and getting money; Ma$e wasn't with that." Then goes on to say how Ma$e got hand me downs and how they clowned on him. Any of the dudes that's with me don't get to look bummy while I'm getting money. You may not look as fly as me, but ain't no way I'm going to stunt on you if you my homie. Ma$e's means of getting money was rap and capitalized on that. How do you expect the dude you used to clown on and stunt on to turn around and give you what he finally achieved? Dudes got things backwards. And then you throw in Puffy robbing him all those years... it just allowed that man to see who was really down for him. I would move out of the city too if my so called "homies" were hating on me.
@naomithomas9572
@naomithomas9572 8 күн бұрын
I grew up in the PJ’s in Cali the had a good friend she was my homegirl. She was poor but extremely poor. But because she was a real one I didn’t dog her I gathered things for her so she can be fly. Because my heart is like that. When you’re a real friend you never talk about the misfortune of your friend. You ride or die with them, rob with them whatever it takes so that our walk is even. You hungry I got a sandwich oh you need something to wear I’m going to my sisters and we hooking up my friend. They dogged out Ma$e now look who’s laughing
@Ismail-cf6xu
@Ismail-cf6xu Жыл бұрын
There’s something about Jim…Can’t put my finger on it but when it comes to Ma$e and Cam’s relationship, their history…listening to him talk about it there’s always this emotional thread that sticks out: hate, envy, jealousy? Idk
@gatlinempire6337
@gatlinempire6337 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@bigbusiness4335
@bigbusiness4335 Жыл бұрын
He is a loser to him... he couldn't walk in those unfortunate shoes ...
@deanod8303
@deanod8303 Жыл бұрын
Because he's not from the savage heart of Harlem like they were. So it made him wanna be even more bout it.
@bigbusiness4335
@bigbusiness4335 Жыл бұрын
@@deanod8303 wtf are you talking about smfh
@Ismail-cf6xu
@Ismail-cf6xu Жыл бұрын
@@deanod8303 you may be right. Interesting theory
@njguy4844
@njguy4844 2 жыл бұрын
I never really heard Mase talk and rhyme about “that life”. He was on some smooth stuff.
@lisalopez8026
@lisalopez8026 2 жыл бұрын
His nickname was Mase Murda bro....Listen to Danger Zone
@malikburberry9981
@malikburberry9981 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was murder p Diddy name me pretty yeah murder mase was on gangsta shit in the beginning listen to his verse on niggas done started something of DMX Album
@SupremeSpeaking
@SupremeSpeaking 2 жыл бұрын
Murda Mase… Children of The Corn. Murda was DEFINITELY talking that talk lol
@MillieMoBuckz
@MillieMoBuckz 2 жыл бұрын
Murda Mase was Street …. MA$E was smooth
@adamcosman8789
@adamcosman8789 Жыл бұрын
@@lisalopez8026 *murda mase
@olearyeugene
@olearyeugene Жыл бұрын
Jimmy ain't really about that neither. Too many stories of him getting his ass beat and crying
@Nemesio609
@Nemesio609 Жыл бұрын
One thing bout Jim he was never a pussy doe he never ran from beef
@jaystacks5249
@jaystacks5249 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@BadaBigga
@BadaBigga Жыл бұрын
Who
@LTtvCombatSports
@LTtvCombatSports 4 күн бұрын
💀💀💀
@columbusohio72
@columbusohio72 3 күн бұрын
And running from rucker park
@swagnificentMAN
@swagnificentMAN 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy such a hater 😂😂😂 Mase had the juice and you didn’t just keep it a buck
@jada8047
@jada8047 2 жыл бұрын
Mase an Cam sound the same almost
@archsciontrismegistus4194
@archsciontrismegistus4194 Жыл бұрын
Word cause how u riding with drivers and dt know who you sliding on?👀 Major major hater cap🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nicestuff8755
@nicestuff8755 Жыл бұрын
Mase was the smart one, he didn’t had to be bout that “life” to succeed, but was surrounded by a bunch of haters
@michaelpolite5805
@michaelpolite5805 Жыл бұрын
Street 🐈 cats got at Mase according to Cam'ron
@RazorReg
@RazorReg Жыл бұрын
Well if that's the case why have a rap name " Murda Mase"???? That name alone is gonna get you checked.
@INCRWDntwrk
@INCRWDntwrk Жыл бұрын
“Murda” being a metaphor for murdering beats or murdering rappers on wax.
@Kingjames313
@Kingjames313 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Kingjames313
@Kingjames313 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpolite5805 According to a nigga that don’t fuck with him………
@mariusseidel9654
@mariusseidel9654 Жыл бұрын
Big L Rest in Peace 💯💥👌
@hassan415
@hassan415 Жыл бұрын
In most cases it’s either damn he wasn’t even like that growing up now he a shooter. Or he wasn’t like that growing up and they press you till you become the shooter or coward away. It’s a lose lose growing up poor. These niggaz will set you up for failure then do a podcast about it like you the bad guy years later 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️👎🏾
@jankylegz4331
@jankylegz4331 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy
@lawrenceq79
@lawrenceq79 8 күн бұрын
Exactly! 💯😂
@kevinjohnson963
@kevinjohnson963 Жыл бұрын
Before Mase got on he was the brokest and wasn’t fresh at all used hand me downs and nobody thought he would be the one to hit and it was basically revenge for him to shine on everybody when he got it
@eyeamgod2734
@eyeamgod2734 Жыл бұрын
Mase also said that when he blew up he didn't have the money yet! He wrote all the hits and did the beats while Puff was out partying! By the no way out tour happen he was still figuring out the business side of music! During the end of the tour he figured out that he was the headline but wasn't getting paid! He said when he refused to go out they gave him 15k! He still fighting with Bad Boys right now for his 50% masters because Sony already paid him their 50% of the same masters and paid him back royalties plus more money he is owed!
@tgrogg9301
@tgrogg9301 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@SonniBlack180
@SonniBlack180 Жыл бұрын
Exactly “Now it’s my turn to shit on these niggaz”
@lfreeman202
@lfreeman202 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a dude who want you to stay under em forever... As a teen he was broke... He changed his own life, then dudes assumed he owed them. They wanted Mase to stay the lil dirty broke cat forever, and couldn't handle Mase now having more... Cam did the same thing to Jim when he came up. He so used to Jim being the hype man, couldn't handle Jim being his own man...
@facksvillain2296
@facksvillain2296 4 ай бұрын
They knew who he’d become, if he was to catch a break. They were hating when they had more than him
@nathylsnipesakayipes7252
@nathylsnipesakayipes7252 Жыл бұрын
Salute from your Winston-Salem, NC family 💯
@hydro8sixty
@hydro8sixty 4 ай бұрын
Cam: Ma$e was getting money at 8 on the corner by his self I seen em walking to McDonald's with my mom's Jim is from the Bronx 😂😂
@dthomas1583
@dthomas1583 9 күн бұрын
And Jim was a bum
@WhiteSauceher
@WhiteSauceher 6 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 and Jim was broke
@dthomas1583
@dthomas1583 6 күн бұрын
@@hydro8sixty fuck he talking bout
@urbanflavorz
@urbanflavorz Жыл бұрын
When did Mase talk about selling crack smh. Jim Jones hatin. He put Cam on who put Jim on. He took Cam to Biggie
@dandojambo1176
@dandojambo1176 Жыл бұрын
Big created a style that transcend hip hop forever 😎🗣️💨🔥
@the4thtribe709
@the4thtribe709 Жыл бұрын
Jones and Cam come off so Jealous of Ma$e.
@johanmassy5290
@johanmassy5290 2 жыл бұрын
He was smart for as you put it "Mase never trusted me (Fat Joe) again". If not for the Harlem love Big L. (R.I.P.) & Mase had this story may have concluded violently. Truth is many in Harlem & NYC were hating on how Mase fan base blew up + the fact he was embraced by Puffy, Biggie LOX & R.I.P. Darkman X!
@brandonlujoso7447
@brandonlujoso7447 2 жыл бұрын
Nah that’s not the truth, the truth is Mase did a lot of sucka shii in Harlem… I’m from Harlem so I know the bs he was did
@lward528
@lward528 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonlujoso7447 A WHOLE lotta sucka shit. R.I.P. Baby Maine & Pop Lotti.
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt Жыл бұрын
@@brandonlujoso7447 All I heard him do was sleep with his godson's mother(Maine's BM),Jimmy and Cam referenced a book he wrote and sign Harlem World to a bad deal...other than that what did he do?
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt Жыл бұрын
@@lward528 wait but I thought Maine and Lotti crews had beef before Mase slept with Maine's girl
@lward528
@lward528 Жыл бұрын
@@dtraversodt Mase pitted the 2 against each other, after he violated & put that song out. He shoulda stayed in his rapper lane, especially knowing he ain't gon bust a grape in a fruit fight.
@monnyo1123
@monnyo1123 Жыл бұрын
Mase never rapped about that but sometimes Jim can do extra
@AndreWhyte
@AndreWhyte 11 күн бұрын
How was mase not getting to the bag if he got signed at 19? He wasn’t even legal to drink but doing world tours. What is Jim talking about?
@coolmasterlove377
@coolmasterlove377 8 күн бұрын
Jim know he is done since Cam hooked up with Ma$e...its just a matter of fact 😂😂😂😂
@stevengrvp
@stevengrvp 2 жыл бұрын
Love these stories
@SocialStudiess
@SocialStudiess 7 күн бұрын
This was a good dialogue. What Mr.Jones said and then what Joe said about knowing the people who claim to do what the lyrics said. I always kept hip-hop at bay and never got into lyrics like that. They say you don’t learn anything from television. I listened, and I stayed in my lane. Am a high school teacher now. Appreciate my alumni, like these two ✊🏾
@jadakiss7778
@jadakiss7778 11 күн бұрын
To depend on a 18 year to lift everyone else up is a serious issue. If you and cam were hustlers why would you be salty at a 18 year old for not lifting everyone else. These dudes crazy!
@acidmack1041
@acidmack1041 Жыл бұрын
Jim still mad that the most successful cat from their clique didn't carry him
@jumentu9385
@jumentu9385 Жыл бұрын
1:23 😂 He pulls up to Mase
@mase552000
@mase552000 3 жыл бұрын
This was posted a month ago but ...First lol . I've never been first it feels good
@frenchy2047
@frenchy2047 2 жыл бұрын
Booo!!! 🍅 👋🏾
@_bigmalo_
@_bigmalo_ 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@NVTwistedProductions
@NVTwistedProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine feeling good about being first on a youtube comment.
@Loyale1229
@Loyale1229 2 жыл бұрын
@@NVTwistedProductions Let the kid have his moment danggggg lol
@trueking1857
@trueking1857 2 жыл бұрын
If that feels good too you then you need too get out more
@turnofeventz
@turnofeventz 12 күн бұрын
Big L was out b4 Ma$e...Jim Jones is a clown...How Ma$e supposed to put Big L on? 😅
@harri8162
@harri8162 6 күн бұрын
Big L flopped.
@breakinbreadwnbjones4341
@breakinbreadwnbjones4341 Жыл бұрын
So basically Mase started gettin money and the nigahs who was gettin money in Harlem b4 him got mad he was gettin money. That’s what I’m hearin’
@ericatkinson2752
@ericatkinson2752 13 күн бұрын
Jim took the convo on some clown s×××
@djdoubled6970
@djdoubled6970 Жыл бұрын
Great Story! Thumbs Up! #139
@KD_SWAGGER
@KD_SWAGGER 2 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Big L! I'm all for hearing and reading about Big L stories. I highly assume Big L & Mase would have had diss records on each other at some time if Big L was alive today.
@jasongil6200
@jasongil6200 2 жыл бұрын
The craziest thing was BiG L was literally undissable. Every bar was a punchline there wasent anything any one could say that he couldn’t flip
@columbusohio72
@columbusohio72 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasongil6200 no such thing as "undissable". You sound like a groupie
@jasongil6200
@jasongil6200 2 жыл бұрын
@@columbusohio72 also who dissed big L during his short life time on earth? Who has something bad to say about big L ? You know who influenced the style of slim shady?
@jasongil6200
@jasongil6200 2 жыл бұрын
Do u know who the only person nas feared??🤣🤣🤣 you sound like someone who has zero to no knowledge about the foundation of hip hop…
@johanmassy5290
@johanmassy5290 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that is just a presumption. If that's true why wouldn't Cam'Ron & Jim Jones be on that list along with Jay-Z?
@HatianHurricane
@HatianHurricane 2 жыл бұрын
Something about this video makes me feel like it's all truth!!!!! Real talk!!!!!!
@brianingram6214
@brianingram6214 Жыл бұрын
Grow up guys.Black on black negative energy
@CalvsCorner365
@CalvsCorner365 10 күн бұрын
The crazy part is that Joe and Jim got accused of sh*tting on people and not looking out. The thing us this everyone feels entitled to people's money based on relationship.
@robertjackson8835
@robertjackson8835 2 жыл бұрын
Rip Big L
@toinewhite1
@toinewhite1 8 күн бұрын
He never trusted me again in his life 😂
@nygelbartlett1843
@nygelbartlett1843 Жыл бұрын
Fat joe you was seeing me and my mom's when we hit the corner on 163 and grand concourse to walk down the hill to my aunt building, it was a crowd of y'all I wasn't scared the mid 70s
@carlchargo6479
@carlchargo6479 Жыл бұрын
R.I.Power Big L
@earlcooper5914
@earlcooper5914 3 күн бұрын
Man forget the beef and these cats need to come together and make history
@MaccaveliDon
@MaccaveliDon Жыл бұрын
All jim do is 🧢
@Jinxcity84
@Jinxcity84 Жыл бұрын
Mase recently said he didn’t have the money they thought. He knew how to fake it
@marlonennis4786
@marlonennis4786 Жыл бұрын
Jim sounds like yal were trying to extort Mase not help him.
@treydeuce8479
@treydeuce8479 Жыл бұрын
exactly.. He said they were mad that he wasnt kicking back (that becomes extortion once you start pressing them for not kicking back) Then he said that mase was being ran out of harlem by guys who owned blocks and got money lol so why’d they need a kick back? Lol 🤷🏾‍♂️
@alexvilma599
@alexvilma599 Жыл бұрын
Becuz like Jim said. When he didn’t have he held him down. Y’all missed that part. And even Mase said it. Cam would give him clothes and sneakers. If you my man and I’m giving you my clothes and sneakers so you can keep up with us. Then you blow up and you not gonna bless niggaz that helped you? Cmon
@alexvilma599
@alexvilma599 Жыл бұрын
But that shit water under the bridge. Mase admitted he messed up. He got the money and wilded out. Him and Cam are cool. They just was talking a few days ago. Mase posted it
@slycooper1979
@slycooper1979 Жыл бұрын
@@alexvilma599 bruh mase did not have the money when he first blew up what exactly did you expect him to kick back???? It took a couple months for mase to start seeing that money
@YungDes83
@YungDes83 2 ай бұрын
Just cuz your signed doesn’t mean you can put people on. Plus Jim weds to grow up. Mase is the smart one. Where’s Big L now And Jim still fighting in the streets t forty something
@rasta9658
@rasta9658 Жыл бұрын
that's what goes on in the hood i guess, peeps you grow up with envy you for making money and moving up. i always say this, the hood is the worst place to live, nothing good happens there.
@damianwashington6072
@damianwashington6072 11 күн бұрын
Killa cam said Mase been outside before he was outside on the block
@amaxwel3277
@amaxwel3277 Жыл бұрын
Mase Made more history then all of them and they still hating
@vicvega24
@vicvega24 4 ай бұрын
Ma$e is still alive and winning.
@Nekowhite93
@Nekowhite93 9 күн бұрын
😔 “he wasn’t showing no love” Mase: sat down and TAUGHT JIM JONES HOW TO WRITE RAPS(literally taught him how to fish) Mase took cam’ron to biggie this starting Camron’s music career and by proxy helped father dipset if things like artistic lineage matter. So already mase hand held & directely put on his best friend and the next 20 years of harlems hip hop influence. And that’s just by putting cam in place, mase was bad boy entrainment it’s biggie in 1st place then it’s mase all of puffys 90 hits run outside of victory and all about the Benjamin mase wrote. Puff betrayed him, He Tried to put on harlem world the group, he got betrayed by his best friend in cam… big l another childhood friend tried to set him up to get robbed and this story from the tunnel, the hot 97 call where Jim shat on the person that is the reason he can even be a success (mase) and mase never even until this day has said any public negative thing towards jimmy. Not to mention the other street beefs you hear he had over 🐱 here we are all these years later and mase was right from the start! And peep this he outlived all that did him wrong and made more money than all of them and “thought he was the king of harlem” look at it like this. Till this day no other harlem rapper that I know of has sold more records than mase. And he only has 3 albums. Harlem world went platinum 4 times. All of the other harlem rappers album sales combined don’t equal that. He is until further notice the king of harlem.
@emoneybagz8629
@emoneybagz8629 4 күн бұрын
Jim sounds REALLY disgruntled! Cam was his right hand & now Mase & Cam are popping! Lesson to my peoples - STAY HUMBLE! 💯 ❤️
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
What's crazy is Jimmy ain't meet Mase till '94 after knowing Zeke since kids in school in the Bronx and Harlem and Cam in '93 through Zeke. I don't know how true it is but Jimmy claims Mase taught him how to rap in exchange for him living in Taft with him and Cam before he blew up
@SupremeSpeaking
@SupremeSpeaking 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a fact Mase taught Jimmy how to rhyme
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
@@SupremeSpeaking yup in '96 cause Mase said if Jim wanted to keep coming on tour he had to learn like Huddy did
@oshinsview4227
@oshinsview4227 Жыл бұрын
That is wholeheartedly not true of when Jomo met Mase
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt Жыл бұрын
@@oshinsview4227 it had to be when they were 18 cause remember Jimmy was cool with Cam through Zeke before he was ever cool with Mase. Mase did say Cam and Jim hustled together and gave him their hand me downs so he could get fresh so that had to be happening around when they were all 17 or 18.
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt Жыл бұрын
@@oshinsview4227 😐
@richiesantos4818
@richiesantos4818 8 күн бұрын
Cam said he used to get fresh because of mase and mase taught Jim how to rap....Jim is bitter and sad cam and mase are seeing success without him
@abrahamlevy9923
@abrahamlevy9923 8 күн бұрын
Jim explained it vividly why Big L had those sentiments towards Mase, he said Mase didn't show love by not putting some of the artists on that wasn't making a buzz. I guess he looked out Cam and Jim because they alot closer to him.
@ibramblebush
@ibramblebush 9 күн бұрын
Cam said, "Two Bronx dudes chop it up."
@chrisgoffe5048
@chrisgoffe5048 Жыл бұрын
..always LOVED ma$e especially with 50 cent
@MarcPlaysDrums
@MarcPlaysDrums 6 күн бұрын
Jim hating on Mase. Cam said Mase was outside before Cam. Jim was know for being good with hands but not for hustling. Also, Mase put Cam on who put Jimmy on…what more could they ask from him? I like Jim but he be hating a lot. That’s kinda why Cam doesn’t rock with him but he rocks with Mase, cuz Mase is about the bag. Why you think he still getting money with Cam and Jimmy ain’t? Cuz Cam(who’s all about the hustle)knows Mase is about his money.
@TB-rt1hm
@TB-rt1hm Жыл бұрын
i went to college with mase.
@rasulsamad5860
@rasulsamad5860 Жыл бұрын
Clark?
@mr.allfacts9489
@mr.allfacts9489 11 күн бұрын
🧢
@JPL16
@JPL16 7 күн бұрын
Jones has always hated Mase
@StuLenS_Gaming
@StuLenS_Gaming Жыл бұрын
So Mase was the „Chief Keef“ of Harlem back then 🤣
@andrik78
@andrik78 13 күн бұрын
Jim jones was from the Bronx what’s he talking about
@Calvin23
@Calvin23 5 ай бұрын
Mase clowned all the haters with his witty raps I just started really getting to the money myself when Mase came out so felt a connection with the music. I would have loved their be lots of song with Mase and Camron their style is pure Harlem.
@itsamedjmario
@itsamedjmario Жыл бұрын
Fat Joe felt like the biggest back stabbed ever ??? Let’s ask Big Puns wife and kids what THEY THINK 🤔
@mikejarmon8431
@mikejarmon8431 Жыл бұрын
Oh that's punching 👊 niggas in the balls with brass knucks on
@harveymcelroy9332
@harveymcelroy9332 Жыл бұрын
Facts!!
@cosmicsage911
@cosmicsage911 Жыл бұрын
Cam mase and l all went to highschool together
@ernestorodriguez1230
@ernestorodriguez1230 11 ай бұрын
Mase and L made Danger Zone
@bobbyjones2293
@bobbyjones2293 Жыл бұрын
Nice guys finish last, imagine mase still rapping. Prolly be some smooth as shit he putting out vs gang gang
@ronaldlewis3055
@ronaldlewis3055 4 күн бұрын
Mase looked like he blew up, but Puffy didn't take care of him like that.
@KevinJ.-rc4ih
@KevinJ.-rc4ih 3 күн бұрын
“He forgot where he came from” Translation: Mase had more money and women than all of them and they were jealous.
@artmessiah83
@artmessiah83 6 ай бұрын
What’s funny is that Mase corroborated most of this stuff on Million dollars worth of game podcast. Mase said he was poor and used to clean Cam’s sneaker and also saying Cam’s hand me downs were his get fresh. He felt like he was always #2 to Cam. It always feels like Jim is speaking from a personal place whenever he talks about Mase. Always in a backhanded tone. Maybe it’s just me. 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️
@KING0420
@KING0420 8 күн бұрын
Crabs in a bucket
@bigcohiba298
@bigcohiba298 6 күн бұрын
But Cam said Mase used to give him stuff Sounds like Jim Jones cappin
@Zo_1987
@Zo_1987 12 күн бұрын
Mase broke it Down, he's a Great Storyteller!💯
@calvincoldwater8731
@calvincoldwater8731 Жыл бұрын
Joe done turned into the knock knee'd TK Kirkland of the rap game! 🤣🤣😎😎...Salute Joe
@doobzthechamp3134
@doobzthechamp3134 12 күн бұрын
BIG L BIG BROTHER WAS PUTTIN ON…. AND L WAS STANDIN ON HIS NAME WIT BULLSHIT.
@fabolousjada5070
@fabolousjada5070 11 күн бұрын
and they both got hit and big L got it to the face
@weedkanda6531
@weedkanda6531 2 жыл бұрын
You try to jump me I'm not putting u on either. And then the guy mad at mase was over a chick..soooooooo?!?!!? What are we really saying
@asonc5043
@asonc5043 Жыл бұрын
Jumping someone and calling someone out is different man. Mace don’t rep the hood, L did. Listen to the songs. L call out his brothas every time. Mace? Never.
@asonc5043
@asonc5043 Жыл бұрын
I’d be mad too if I was all around better and someone else getting hyped.
@el84oro
@el84oro Жыл бұрын
@@asonc5043 mase put cam on. Cam got his first deal on the strength of mase introducing him to big. Betha taught Jim how to rap. He stopped messing wit Jim over some other shit
@TA-ht4jo
@TA-ht4jo Жыл бұрын
@@asonc5043 That’s not true. Mase called out a few of his homies like Cam
@Black-cd3lc
@Black-cd3lc Жыл бұрын
So Mase making a group with Cardan, Blink, Loon and Baby Stase wasn’t putting Harlem on? Taking Cam to Big and cam getting his deal through Big with Un? Teaching Jim to rap? All of that is NOT showing love. All of this done while going 5x platinum on Julie solo debut and writing hits for Puff….make it make sense.
@leefortuin9839
@leefortuin9839 2 жыл бұрын
Ma$e a better emcee than both Jim & Crack.They didnt do or live all the things they rapped about either.
@shabazz360
@shabazz360 8 ай бұрын
Jim didn’t but then TS dudes was for real. Joe included.
@brooksfleming7643
@brooksfleming7643 Жыл бұрын
He admitted he used wear Cam sneakers too.
@ericcoffee6841
@ericcoffee6841 6 күн бұрын
They didn't know Mase was getting robbed legally, he ain't have money to give messing with Puff
@hr9336
@hr9336 4 ай бұрын
Mass said it himself. He was the dirty dude in the background until he met Puff. Then all these dudes expected him to take care of them before he take care of himself. No wonder he bounced on them clowns.
@yorkrothschild9922
@yorkrothschild9922 Жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for mase Jim would’ve never been on period
@chrisrobinson8339
@chrisrobinson8339 Жыл бұрын
But Jim. Didn't mase teach you how to rap?
@TheDundeal
@TheDundeal Жыл бұрын
Mase didn't have it when they thought he did
@bayleafcreativetv9627
@bayleafcreativetv9627 2 жыл бұрын
More ppl need to tell they Mase stories so we can get a better understanding…cause if we gotta listen Mase reasons 🤦🏾‍♂️
@DBIGDEENO
@DBIGDEENO 9 күн бұрын
Mase explained it perfectly… They were pocket watching and not knowing he didn’t have it the way they expected. Why would he stay in Harlem especially with vultures like that? Camron understood it LATER, and matured after knowing how the business can take advantage of young inner city talent who sign these contracts where they’re really not rich as they appear… fast forward Cam and Mase are good, they’re rich and Jim is a bitter 50 year old Blood who fights old people in airports
@joshbutler4162
@joshbutler4162 Жыл бұрын
Big L was so nice!
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