Yes I believe the Newhall Incident highlighted that problem of range habits that can get you killed.

Brass policed when shooting is over...we were never taught to hand dump

However, this story - as well as all of the details surrounding it - is just that, a story. The truth is that Pence dumped his expended casings on the ground and, despite being shot several times and sustaining a lower leg fracture, reloaded his revolver just prior to being murdered. But an even more important truth is that Pence did the best he could with the training and equipment he brought to this fight and he deserves better in death than to have his heroic efforts colored by a story that is untrue

bullshit Leo's have never been killed. they engage people who engage back. Noone is hunting these pigs

🤣 Ron Jeremy in “Car 54”! 😆

That actually is him for anyone thinking it’s just a joke. He did all kinds of low level acting prior to being creepy for the next 50 years.

I would say that all these principals are still very solid.

shinobi1kenobi75 You are right. One of the changes is the kind of weapons and the kind of ammunition.

I understand you, I've practiced in the "Tiro Federal Argentino" in Buenos Aires, what we call FBI shooting. I did it with my SW 357 magnum. We had 4 seconds to unholster and shoot five bullets to a siluet at 15 meters distance , and it was a great weapon. Me and my son received several medals in competitions.

In the time period depicted virtually all departments used revolvers. Few officers could shoot well with them. Many needed remedial training for every qualification to the point of pencil whipping the scores.

I’m most certain it was taught in the 70’s, perhaps the FBI didn’t think of that during the making of the video _because it’s common sense_

FBI taught to "prep" the trigger, as did others. LASO did it until they went from Berettas to S&W M&Ps a few years ago.

Since it’s a trainingbfilm from FBI tactics instructors, I would imagine that fingers on frames would have seemed a redundancy in an era when cops used double action revolvers or shotguns with a safety switch. Even the automatic pistols of the era would have had a safety in the case of a 1911 or been a DA like the early smith and Wesson pistols of the era. I have no proof of this but I think another form of trigger control was that beat cops of the day were taught to be more reluctant to draw a duty weapon in the first place even if that put an officer at a tactical disadvantage

Smith and wesson model 10 revolvers, Ithaca model 37 or Remington 870 shotguns.

@@azmrblack thanks!

@@azmrblack Now that I'm on vacation this week I need to get my S&W Regulation Police model .38 S&W revolver 5 shot and my Remington 870 pump 9 shot to the outdoor range and practice some amidst all this chaotic bullshit we're struggling with these days now in 2021 !!!!

Many don't realize how bullets richochet off walls/the ground. Valuable lesson, also the shotgun patterning is often less spread then most expect (movies make it seem like you point down hallway and it cover the entire hall.. naybe a sawed off with light birdshot, but most 18 inch+ shotguns people have for home defense pattern much more tightly then they expect at home use ranges. If you dont aim decently you'll miss with shotguns. Some of the stuff is dated, but will work better then no training which sadly some % of gun owners buy a gun and do 0 training or even research how to in a video like this or whatever else they find online

That depends on what form of resisting arrest is used by a suspect. It’s not a boxing match an officer can afford to lose. If the cop gets knocked out or rendered helpless, he can be disarmed and killed with his own gun. People need to understand that any physical confrontation with a cop involves a firearm. The one the cop is carrying