I always assumed it was Moltres.....even after gold and silver were released 🙄

I always thought Fearow evolved into Ho-oh

@@stevekirkby6994 They might be related. Who knows ?

@@twikie258 a legendary evolution that they ended up cancelling 🤔

I doubt you were the only one

Defiant though?

@@jaredparks4713 defiant, but it's an omniboost

@Carlos Albornoz imagine if they actually added that lol

I mean, you could kinda argue psyduck doing the same in the anime did the same to cloyster.

It was ninetales tho

Nah dude, Farfetch'd could destroy all 3!

@@Stink252 agility + swords dance x2 + drill peck. Hit a 5 or 6 times for the e4, rinse repeat

@@212mochaman It would get too many crits, which make swords dances worthless

Tri attack's animation alone is enough to make dodrio the best gen 1 bird.

I always used Pidgey just out of loyalty as a kid. But I always knew Fearow was objectively better. I just thought he wasn’t as cool looking. Same with Dodrio. If I could go back I wish I would have used more team variety back then for fun.

@@ChristianSedaPlays Same: Pidgeot being (subjectively) the best looking of the three is why I kept running with it. The only thing Fearow has over Dodrio (in the games) is earlier accessibility. When he decides to do a Dodrio start-to-finish run, it can also get Body Slam. Probably will help make Raichu a little more palatable via either a clean 2-shot or a 1-shot with a crit.

I fucking love Dodrio and Farfetch'd bro, underrated af

I always kept the fearow for the same reason that too many other kids at the time had pidgeot 🤣 my fearow would drill peck their pidgeot into oblivion when we had link battles😁 granted i always used a bit of vitamins to bolster his stats but that was really just icing on the cake

I agree. That takes into account difference in growth rates, such as in this case. It doesn't make that much of a difference in this case, though, since Medium fast is just a little slower than medium slow for the first 50 or so levels and a little faster for the rest. It makes a max of two or three levels of difference. I think it would make a nice difference from pokemon in fast and slow groups where there can be a difference of 14 levels.

On the other hand pkm that struggle against brock will have a disadvantage in that case. Grinding from lvl 10-20 takes way longer in the forest than lets say lvl 50-60 in the late game

Surprisingly, that means that level finished does matter so far as it reflects level grinding. Like if you can do the regular gym challenge without much grinding but then you grind up to Level 90 for that good move the levels matter. That being said, if the levels they end up when finishing the game become a metric again, it should be split into four different metrics. Levels grinded/time taken but recalibrated to adjust for experience group would measure how much effort it takes to grind up a Pokémon. The amount of levels needed for each grind is needed to see just how much time is dedicated for each grind. The amount of grinds needed and where they are illustrate how bad the Pokémon is for that region because that describes how many key fights wall that Pokémon. Finally, the level they finished at remains. Now “level a Pokémon finished at” is more properly an effort marker than just a level comparison. Furthermore, significant blocks, like Brock, Whitney, Watson, Norman, Tate and Liza, Platinum’s Fantina, Lenora or Cheren, Ultra Necrozma, or Eternatus should be noted so that we can actually gauge overall ease instead of thinking a Pokémon sucks because it matches poorly against the next major battle, or that a Pokémon is good because it handles the next few battles well.

That is an excellent idea.

Wouldn't this fall under real time

At the heart of it Pokémon is evolution based there is a possibility that in the Pokémon universe a articuno can be a sterile genetic offspring of a pidgeot and a ice bird

Yea maybe they are super versions of them but dotrio would be for moltres since it has 3 in its name

@@jamiecarter4461 name wise it’s clever but Moltres favors fearow so my guess is a fearow/rapidash

The pokemon cards kinda back this idea up, because i remember having this one Delta Species Pidgey that was Electric type (Delta Species was a fun lil run where the mons had types that were wildy different, a fire ralts, steel magikarp and Eevee, etc. I think there was even a dark&steel Persian)

@@bigdog421 Wow, didnt even know they made those!

I think it would be especially good if he used an especially strong Pokemon. Not necessarily Mewtwo, but maybe, like, Gyarados or something.

This

Planned

Oh ya that’s a good one. I would think Nidoking bing fairly balanced stat wise would showcase the direct difference but maybe another mon would need a whole different move set between the the little buggers, that would be cool.

Brilliant

Yup and it already has higher speed + it evolves early.

and +vel

Nerf drill peck

@xIcyStarzz return wasnt a move in generation 1 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Drill peck was insane in gen 1.

Yeah, multiple playthroughs helps to provide more context. Sometimes I get logically trapped in what I think is the best strategy, but I have a way to hopefully weed that bias out. I’m trying to see what the best time I can get with each Pokémon so this is required to do that. From a video perspective I do think the extra playthroughs cause a bit of bloat. I’m working on a production solution to fix that for the next versus video! Level range is certainly a good metric. 70 vs 60 is a difference. But 63 vs 62 is not really something I want to judge a Pokémon based on.

Oh yeah, I hadn't even thought about how small a difference of 63 vs 62 could be. Maybe for a level metric you could say round it and use that for comparison, like while their actual level may be 61 you put a (60) in brackets on the score sheet and if the other pokemon is a 62 since that also rounds to (60) then it results in a tie on the level metric? It doesn't have to be straight rounding, but if you aren't happy with a straight level comparison you could try changing the metric slightly to fit what you want. While it may take a bit extra explanation, having a 62 (~60) or something for the score page I think would give you some room to represent a bit more nuance if you want it. Just a thought, really enjoy the videos! Also for what it's worth, I don't mind the extra bloat as I enjoy longer videos and I feel that you make effective use of your video time so it never feels to me as if things are 'dragging on'.

I just did a firered nuzlocke and they both died in victory road after being with me almost the entire game. Sad tunnel lol

Fr it’s best bet for a move set would be as follows: Double edge Sky attack Quick Attack Toxic

I know dodrio outclasses fearow in stats and battle, but Honestly I have more fondness for fearow.

You did haha

Yes

Thanks for checking Dan! I appreciate the eye for details :)

Dodrio has straight up better stats over the board, but the fact that it evolves ELEVEN levels later might actually balance things out!

@@bvd_vlvd Douduo has an attack stat only 5 behind fearow. It's also far better than spearow for 15 levels. In fact, the gap between douduo and spearow is probably bigger than the gap between douduo and fearow. Not to mention, it gets body slam.

God, get over yourself.

I’m glad the hard work is paying off. Funnily enough, the true improvements are just starting. I can’t wait to show off what’s next!

Thanks Karol ConCarne, I’m glad that my work is making an impression!

Trying to decide if this is you making a meme or genuinely just not aware about the unintended reapplication of the intended badge boosts. I'm neither confident nor mean enough to go straight to the sarcastic response

@@harrymanocha4533 a little bit of both

Thanks!

Its so nice seeing Scott get sponsored he definitely deserve it for all his efforts

Thanks for sharing. Knowing that I inspired you to get a computer and start playing on emulators really motivates me. What games have you been playing?

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I have mad love for Gen 3 honestly. It's the one I grew up on so it's just like playing through memories of car rides from years ago lmao Besides Pokemon, I've been trying to complete final fantasy 1-6 also but that's a long term goal haha

Fearow hits hard and has an actual stab move in drill peck unlike Pidgeot who hits as hard as a paper stickman

Pidgeot has a mullet

Higher special stat you say? LOL and what can it do with that? Can it "Ice beam" a rock type? Can it "earthquake" an electric type? It learns nothing special/beneficial from it's trivial slightly higher special attack stat. FLY into things and hope for the best

Format will change next time! I have big plans. I'm slowly figuring out the best way to present this info!

So true.

Dang. I foresaw the future lol

You did

Thanks Casey, I’m glad the thoroughness made an impression!

I agree and something else to the other is the fact that it's name is FEARow! Hehe, should be a fun video despite who wins.

lame opinion Pidgeot is hardly bland. Respect the hair.

@@ClintonKE The feathers on its head are the dumbest part of the bland and lame bird, lol. Fearow's design makes it look like a deadly hunter.

@@valor1omega Pidgeot is a mix with it based off Osprey and other various birds of prey like eagles and then as cockato for its crest. So I don't know how you think Pidgeot isn't a deadly hunter or lame in design when they are both a reference to several various birds. Though the birds fearow is referencing aren't really hunters but rather waddling birds. A large overall mix actually. Fearow's birds they are referencing are Heron or Ibis mainly due to that long neck. Though it doesn't have the long legs. And lol at calling Pidgeot's crest dumb when talking about Fearow. Fearow's comb is like that of a chicken. In general a hens because it doesn't have those flaps roosters got.

@@ClintonKE The feathers on Its head screams "look at me I cool, look I stand out" not very impressive. It's the moehawk(sp) of the bird kingdom, lol. Besides look a FEARow it's design screams bada**! Without even trying. I see Pidgeot and I think of how tasty it would be for dinner, lol Nothing about it screams "fear ME!" Heck if I recall correctly catipree knocked out a pidgy while Pikachu needed a rainstorm to take out a single sparrow. In G1 and g3 Pidgey was and is still a joke while Sparrow is still a bada**.

@@valor1omega Hair insulting won't go very far still when you were calling Fearow's chicken due awesome for whatever reason. As for compared to the 'so called try hard' of really just a ok punk rock hair style on Pidgeot. I really don't see what your issue is with punk rock man? You gonna tell me something like Dixie Kong's hair is bad as well? And of course Pidgeot doesn't scream fear me. Its not designed that way. Its designed to be mimicking birds that have been useful for humans. Go into a top tier bird of prey but comes from humble beginnings. Something that can be good for humans cause people train birds like that to be useful. Homing Pigeons are awesome and the idea it can grow into also hunting for people is even better is all I'm saying. Don't know why you want just scary but I guess Fearow being more scary I'm fine with giving it. You ever deal with a swan they aren't to be messed with I guess lol but still. Why would I want something that won't earn its keep? Still, why Fearow for all that when you got Dodrio? I mean it is stronger than Fearow and learns better stuff. And I'm trying to figure out why you bring up the anime or games when Pidgeot wins on both of them in the end?

Scott is basically a person who wants to big-data a Pokémon game experience (which Pokémon is easier to use? What count as roadblocks? What are move all Pokémon can learn? Assuming a person keeps at it how long will it take for a person to complete a Pokémon game? What are generic consistent strats that indicate a Pokémon sucks if alone on a playthrough?) given how much effort is placed on collecting info on the ease of using a Pokémon.

In the end though Scott's ruling is FEARow is the winner. Pidgeot won due to raw luck and that's it. I mentioned that in the live chat with Scott and he agreed. That and he said he had made a few mistakes during Fearow's first run as well. I am sure the entire conversation is in the chat replay.

@@valor1omega Maybe I wasn't clear. That was a prediction before watching the video. The results were pretty clear.

'solo pokemon playthrough statline' aka speed and attack

Dodrio is my favorite of the 3. I use fearow until i get doduo.

Dodrio > fearow >>>>>>> pidgeot. That was the general consensus regardless of when pidgeot was available

I can’t wait to use Dodrio, I never have before. It seems so strong for this game.

Well Fearow wins but it isn't a significant victory. It was very close. Not like some of the other vs video here

I’m sorry for you pain, but glad you watched the video

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon You do great work man

Thanks for the kind words Quetzal coatl. I wish Fearow’s 3D model was a bit more impressive, because I personally really like it too! Hope to see you in the comments of other videos!

But the extra evolution for pidgey is just more satisfying🤣 plus imo pidgeot looks cooler/more badass than fearow

fearow vs dodrio mighve been more competitive

I don't particularly agree. I think that Dodrio would also win easily. Both have access to drill peck, but Dodrio has 20 more base attack and the same crit chance.

after watching, i am honestly surprised at the video’s results.

Just for clarity. Dodrio/Arcanine attack stats are about the same. Both have pile-driving attack power.

Might be able to out speed Pokémon like that and one shot them first though!

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Yeah, if you do this, you gotta use something very powerful lmao

Scotts pain is our gain I suppose just don't torture yourself

I wish I could use it against him more!

Sand attack is such an op move lol and the bane of Scotts existence in yellow runs

Did 2 playthroughs with Tauros…

For some additional context: in that video I wasn’t sure I wanted to keep up with the 6-8 playthrough per video. Plus both playthroughs Kamgaskhan performed better so I felt confident in presenting my work as it was. Perhaps one day I’ll revisit the beastly Beef and give it another shot ;) (I honestly just prefer trying to find the best possible time with each Pokémon, I wish I could do 10 playthroughs with all 151)

How in the world would you manage to have 1510 consecutive playthroughs in such a way that fatigue and different moods and stuff do not subtly change your results? It would be nice to see it, but the logistics make that impossible.

60 bp wing attack would be so good. It’s got decent PP

That’s helpful to here. I’ll have to put more in!

There’s something about Machamp punching really fast too, but it has pretty awful speed…

Thanks so much Bert

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon no thank you!

Which gen? I'm guessing 3? It's had access to Brave Bird as an egg move since Gen 4, which I would probably prefer for the sheer damage output. Heck, even in Gen 3 you could run HP Flying, or if you would rather, HP Fighting or Ground to better hit Steels as well as Rocks.

@@paulnewton2284 Yes in Fire Red

I can’t wait to do a Dodrio playthrough!

Glad you’re enjoying!