are you Barney? because how you mentioned Joy Division individual parts with mentioning Hook is frankly astounding. I hope in the three years since you made this comment, you have been imprisoned.

I am re reading both of Stephen’s books. Really well written. Recommend everyone check them Out

who doesnt. the only bass player to leave a mark with his unique style, or does anyone know another basser that is recognised right away?

@@MrSchmolko Lemmy, Steve Harris, Chris Squire, Geezer Butler...

@@MrSchmolko exactly. You can tell he's playing right away. Truly a unique player

@@MrSchmolko Simon Gallup?

Michael Preda absolutely....

Amen, brother...

agreed

Paul Metzger Not me. I'm capable of loving both bands equally, hell, I even consider them the same band but with a different style.

Same here. I've been a Joy Division fan since hearing Unknown Pleasures in 1980 at the age of 14, but until a few days ago I'd never even heard of Gillian Gilbert and I just assumed that Hooky was still with the band. I recently listened to Hooky's audiobook about Joy Division and have spent the last few days listening to Peter Hook and The Light's live releases of Joy Division material, and love it.

Strange that, anyone I know who liked Joy Division blended seamlessly into New Order fandom. Movement seemed like a natural musical progression from Closer, it was just missing Ians lyrical prowess.

Everything is OK Plastic face carnt smile (White Out).

Yeah, yeah. First, his name is Bernard, get it right. Blue Monday is the #1 selling song in history and has been viewed over 25,000,000 times on KZfaq

He's ok. Around the time Technique came out he had a few singing lessons.

Might be true that Bernard still can't sing, but no one can't sing the way Sumner does it.

The fact that he can't properly sing live was what made them particular. However, he's still an archived musician. Used to really really really like New Order when I was a kid, and into young adulthood. Now I'm an old fart. Without a doubt, they shaped my musical taste. The first time I listened to Substance (as an entry door to their work), it transported me into another dimension. Back then internet was nonexistent, so it took me a while to find out they had been the darker JD prior to NO. So later I started to like some "goth" bands , thanks to them. Great times the 80s, everything you discovered back then was through radio, or because of your older sibling's good taste in music.

when you know that even if you make a profit it will be drowned it the financial sinkhole called Hacienda it's easier to not give a damn about commercial success. Keep in mind that they have the best selling EP of all time and yet managed to lose 100 000 pounds in the process thanks to Tony Wilson's management abilities

That's silly because he did not want to be part of New Order.

He quit because he's difficult to be around

most of those sounds so bloody generic though.

what did Gillian contribute to the band as off the top of my head I can think of nothing?

@@revol148 well you're an idiot then.

Amen. He can express himself brilliantly on occasions - and yet other times he sounds like English is his fourth language, both in interviews and in his lyrics. Don't get me wrong - I think he's right up there in the pantheon and so are the band. Just - inconsistent.

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The speed that he drummed took him back in time

And Republic was my favorite album too...

while i agree, republic did give us regret

Republic wasn't a bad record. I just don't think the music they were making at that time and since was right for that moment in the way it was received. Their niche wasn't as appealing as it was in their early years because of other music around at the time that for whatever reason people were more in to. To do with the dynamic of where popular music was at at the time.

analog synths, a sense of humour, pop genius mixed with the absurd....sounds also like the Pet Shop Boys.

Republic is tied with Waiting For The Sirens Call as the worst New Order record, tho i think both albums have their strengths. Its N.O. after all! "Regret" almost redeems the whole LP, and the title track off Sirens Call is just beautiful

yeah, the new single is really Electronic without Johnny Marr. Bernard even said in an interview he barely consulted the band, he just made it himself. Peter Hook added an edge to the music, and obviously his actual bass is an integral part of NO's sound.

you can if you want

Death toured for 1 year without any original members in 89/90.

major egotistical nar·cis·sist

Yup. They ain't the band they were without Peter hook. He's really down to earth and deserves more respect from the other members,of new order

8 years later did you ever find out? I'm also looking for it. P.S 2013. We hardly knew ye x

@@KarlHamilton its a live version. You can find it on the Live at Bestival 2012 and NOMC15 albums on Spotify

He misses your money.

Youth was never meant to last forever. Age will come for you as well…

she never says anything anyway....

That’s her job 😆☺️

Idk if you saw my other comment but its a live version that you can find on the Live at Bestival 2012 and NOMC15 albums

Jeff Svirtunas Agreed. Technique was genius their sound and stage presence was brilliant at the time now they sound like a poor tribute act.

It´s the last album by them I loved, there are odd songs good later, but not albums.

Republic was really underrated.

The Light are a Monaco tribute band.

Which is somewhat ironic...

Get the fuck out of here. Also, after 2 months, you are clueless. Why don't you go back to comment on the Smiths channel? Fuckwit.

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