Feb 1 2023 to PID or not to PID and/or why? is a common question Rancilio Silvia Ceado C5P

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Pete's Rancilio Silvia

Жыл бұрын

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@tvfd-thevirtualflightdispa978 Жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation. I choose to temperature surf. My explanation is that I have learned what my machine does with temperature and by emptying the boiler (using the hot water switch) I can get to a consistent 210-215 at the start of the brew, which is about 190 out. Since I use darker roasts, this results in a pretty consistent shot. I could empty a bit less from the boiler and get a higher base temperature if I wanted to brew a lighter roast, but I find that with the coffees I use, I don’t need to do that. More work, yes. However for my machine (and every Silvia is a bit different…which is why we love them?), this is just fine. If you feel you need a PID, by all means get one…

@petesranciliosilvia3777 Жыл бұрын

Great feedback thanks, great to hear the Silvia is working well for you, its a great machine - and 100% can pump out a great espresso stock, - it sounds like you have perfected your system, and its good input for those out there contemplating or thinking they are missing out on something , PID or not - enjoy the espresso you are making - best Pete - and I like the awareness and sharing the bean roast level to temperature advice is likely helpful also a lot of people miss that

@petercooney9156 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the videos. You convinced me to add a PID to a gifted Sylvia (a bit worse for wear unfortunately) that I was/am refurbishing. I chose the pre-infusion model (debates to be had there of course), and the install went fine. I do like the inbuilt brew timer. I tinkered with the pressure at the OPV. Cone spanners from a cycling shop are nice & slim , 20 mm ones are available on line but I had to file out some 18 mm ones. Worked fine. My copy of the portafilter gauge is a dud it seems. But it is all getting closer to a proper shot. Thanks again.

@petesranciliosilvia3777 Жыл бұрын

Peter great work enjoy your Silvia best Pete

@eugenelui14 6 ай бұрын

Great information and explanation . Well done !

@petesranciliosilvia3777 6 ай бұрын

thanks Pete

@konstantinosvakouftsis4086 6 ай бұрын

Wow best explanation I have seen so far Thanks for the effort

@petesranciliosilvia3777 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Pete

@kjtempo1966 Жыл бұрын

Great video Pete, very informative 👍

@petesranciliosilvia3777 Жыл бұрын

Thanks and thanks for watching best Pete

@USA__2023 Жыл бұрын

I know absolutely nothing about this brewer but I do play with PIDs used as heater control. Not sure how big the boiler tank is but it would be nice to be able to get a PT100 down into the water of the boiler for the PID temp feed back. Even better if you could tune the PID to hold temp while it's pumping water. :) I use thermocouples in my heating systems but only out of necessity because of high temperatures. PT100 / PT1000 sensors are more accurate and have better great repeatability.

@petesranciliosilvia3777 Жыл бұрын

Clay time to pick up a ☕️ Silvia and work out those water temp stability ideas 👍🏻all are solid ! - good luck-let us know ! Pete 300 ml = 10 US fluid ounces Coffee/Steam Boiler Capacity: 0.3L What is the volume of the Silvia boiler? 12 oz. The single 12-ounce brass boiler serves both brew and steam temperatures 12 oz./10.5 oz. minus heating element pidsilvia.com/silvia1.htm

@gumslegumsle2287 9 ай бұрын

Hi Pete! Great video, very interesting. Just bought me a secondhand Silvia and i am right now busy with learning how to use this. Starting to get a feeling for the temps of this brewer, i guess/hope i can do it without PID in the future. BTW: how did you manage to attach the manometer to the portafilter? Greetings from the Black Forest!👋🙂

@petesranciliosilvia3777 9 ай бұрын

Thanks and good luck with the Silvia, - you will be fine , the gauge screws/threads on once you remove the spout -if that is what you mean ? best Pete * Im sure if you dig through the library I likely cover and/or have links to purchase, but - what I often hear back is items tend to be out of stock, no longer carried etc - maybe this theespressoshop.co.uk/en/Universal-Grouphead-Pressure-Gauge-38-0-16-Bar/m-2756.aspx kzfaq.infoMCl_IyfgE8A?si=qrO8lzItUrRrNOVh

@timhanley4396 2 ай бұрын

What do you think of the proftec Go

@ss48g Жыл бұрын

Can you make a video about steaming milk for lattes with the Rancilio? I try and tried and can't get it right.

@petesranciliosilvia3777 Жыл бұрын

gsb I am espresso only over here - good luck it takes practice, maybe a future video - best Pete

@moonlighthomestead4259 Жыл бұрын

6:37 hey Pete, where did you get this thermometer setup for the grouphead? I’d like to measure my own to dial in the temp. Thanks!

@petesranciliosilvia3777 Жыл бұрын

its far less impressive or sophisticated than it appears, its very much just a thermocouple wrapped in saran wrap, pinched into and between group and portafilter - 100% home made DIY, to only get a guesstimate like many of my projects to get a very basic idea of water temp in this area - far from scientific or conclusive - but provides a starting place to compare to PID and final shot temp etc - thanks Pete

@konstantinosvakouftsis4086 4 ай бұрын

Hello, I would like some clarification if someone can. I am speaking in Celcius. My problem: When I set my Auber PID with stock settings to 104 I hear air in the boiler and PID reads temps from 102 up to 106. While brewing I get some steam comming out of grouphead Does this mean the water is over 100? When I set it on 103 it is perfectly stable, no sound of air in the boiler and I never get steam out of brew head.

@petesranciliosilvia3777 2 ай бұрын

whats that then 217/218 F? I like the avoiding steam so maybe park it there, I tend to run in the 222F I think, if I leave it on all day I might get a bit of steam- but for the first hour or two I dont think so- (?) thats what I do like about the videos, - as it shows what really is happening - Pete

@Gabe-hz2cn Жыл бұрын

Hey Pete, have you seen Lelit Anna with PID? I’m about to get a new machine, but I don’t know which one would be better, what you think? Rancilio or lelit anna(pid)

@petesranciliosilvia3777 Жыл бұрын

Gabe, the Anna hits some pretty solid points at a gentle price point - don't ya think? PID, pressure gauge, 3 way valve, it offers pretty much all you can be looking for in a single boiler? And the money saved (compared to a Silvia with PID) could go toward your grinder putting you in even better shape. Slightly smaller 57mm basket, (but baskets, tamper and bottomless portafilter appear available ) but when comparing them for good or bad - I wouldn't anticipate a huge regret or buyer remorse by going either way, you mention about to get a new machine - as in new to replace another you are currently using or its going to be your first time machine ? - in either case, both appear to be able to provide a strong starting spot for a home machine capable of producing good espresso - the rest will be up to you! Good luck, let us know what you decide to do - Im curious - best Pete kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bcWEbJRprb-4j58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKmGgdKCmq-yg30.html

@Gabe-hz2cn Жыл бұрын

@@petesranciliosilvia3777 Hey Pete! it will be my second machine. I currently own a Breville duo boiler. i have no complaints about my current machine. but Breville is fully automated, if something breaks I just can't fix it easily. so I think about having a second option at home. About Lilith, it's exactly what you said, it has everything you need, PID+ Pressure gauge. I see good reviews from this machine. Lelit's only issue is the 57 group, it's a bit difficult to find accessories, but not impossible. thank you very much for the answer and for the attention you give us. Your channel is great, keep it up!