Absolutely. A leader of a large church, read private messages to the congregation, called for them to shun Mark, basically, and said Mark was doing this to promote his book, his agenda. I guess John says and does whatever he wants, truth or not, because he is anointed.

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I agree 100%

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@@user-sd6yu1xs4g, and that is unscriptural. I pray Holy Spirit will reveal the truth to you.

@@user-sd6yu1xs4g , he has, which is why I am no longer a in the RC church.

These celebrity wannabes like James River Lindell have no shame and act like kids. Trying to be cool and fun. Sad

@KevinHale-vq2xr It's really just disgusting, In my opinion. These Rockstar pastors are really the farthest thing from being pastors.

He also said, "Alex participated in worship at every opportunity." Also, "A JRC host witnessed Alex boldly sharing his faith at the airport." Okay. Sure. I would love to know who that was. It is all vey James Riverish: save face; we are always right.

Yes, time to exit.

Correct! A buisness

It’s his family business

He just announced his sons are taking over in 4 years, a transition. This demands control issues to do this .

What did the denomination do about this? Support the people pastor or the talk about (address) the issue?

Revelation does not say a Jezebel Spirit...its says only Jezebel....its not a spirit. Its a symbol like everything in revelation. Its a symbol for those that are like her, treacherous, full of trickery and manipulation, a narcissist. Jezebel spirit is a con doctrine that they made up to make $$$ selling books.

Spoke Truth!! BLessings to you, in Jesus, our soon coming Lord and Savior!! MARANATHA!❤❤❤

You are ABSOLUTELY correct! Spiritual abuse from Lindell and Deflection from the real issue!

Charismatics, the men, kooky.

Mark isn't the type to promote his book this way. If he will put himself out there and risk his reputation this way, he wouldn't want to risk the wrath of a friend who has control of a big church who could be helpful. He would want to keep his friendship at all costs. There are many other ways to promote a book.

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And not separate

It was in Seattle, Washington.

In addition yo the fact he led about the performer having a family and being a Christian. If he lied about one part why should we believe him about the other? .

Mark is not a humble repentant man! I'm glad he called this out but he's never repented for Mars Hill mess and shouldn't have been on stage to speak in the first place! This is just one of many things that's going on at JRC! Many people have left JRC but JL is taking souls down with him!

Let's look at the context of this rebuke and compare it to this men's conference. The event was put on by James River Church. Driscol was a guest. Mark did not have the spiritual authority to rebuke the church or the event. When he rebuked the event without authority, he was in the wrong. Pastor Lindel had the right to confront him. Right or wrong is not the issue. It is one of rebellion against the authority in the situation. Mark Driscol has a history of doing this. In the case of Paul calling out Peter. Peter was visiting the church where Paul was in a position of spiritual authority. Paul had the right to rebuke Peter. We need to get back to understanding that we are all under the authority of Christ and that we do not have the right to act the way we feel is right.

@@robbhawks2568Totally disagree! JESUS was the spiritual authority of this men’s conference NOT Lindell!! I 100% support and commend Driscoll for taking a stand! Many of us believe it was the Holy Spirit working through Driscoll to rightfully call out the Jezebel Spirit performance that was witnessed! He didn’t directly call Lindell out! Lindelll’s smug, arrogant, prideful ego in regards to the whole situation seriously makes me sick to my stomach!! Lindell needs to have a serious “come to Jesus”, repent, and ask for forgiveness! He will answer to Jesus for his actions! In regards to ministers, I believe our Heavenly Father will hold them to a higher accountability considering their actions and misuse of our Heavenly Father’s word have the ability to wrongly misled believers!

@@karenhigginson2155 Hi Karen. You are both right and wrong. Jesus is the source of all authority. But God's form of government is delegated authority. When Christ issues authority to church leaders, they are responsible directly to Christ for how they use that authority. Pastor Lindell was operating within the authority entrusted to him as the pastor. God will hold him personally responsible for how he used that entrusted or delegated authority. Mark Driscoll was not in a position of spiritual authority over Pastor Lindell in this conference. He was a guest and thus under Pastor Lindell's authority. Mark admitted this when Pastor Lindell told him that his time was up and to leave the stage. As I mentioned, he was free to proclaim his "word", but not in that location. He could have waited until after the event or left the event. He could have NOT walked up onto stage but have left the event and then made his "word" from a place that was not under the authority of Pastor Lindell. If he was truly looking to deliver a "word from God" to the leadership, he should have done so in private. You say that you believe that the Holy Spirit was working through Driscoll to call out the Jezebel Spirit. Perhaps that is so, but the Holy Spirit would not have led Driscoll to do so in a manner that was rebellious to the authority of Christ as represented in Pastor Lindell. (See "Spiritual Authority" by Watchman Nee.) Something to consider. This is not the first time Mark Driscoll has caused an uproar around the subject of a recently published book (Spirit of Jezebel, published fall 2023) in order to either increase sales or to self promote. In October 2013 he crashed a John Mac Arthur 'Strange Fire' conference. He was not invited, he just showed up, opened a box of his latest book, and began giving them away. When he was asked to remove his books from the conference, he resisted until he was told that security would box his books up and take them to his car etc. He tweeted out a deceptive tweet stating that he was at the conference and that his books had been confiscated. It was purely a marketing stunt designed to create social media traffic and self promotion. Sound familiar? By the way, he was part of a scheme to have his church, Mars Hill, purchase 10,000 plus copies of one of his books to get it on the New York Times best seller list. Deception. Deception is not of the Holy Spirit.

@@robbhawks2568 I think we found the guy that attends James River

​@user-sd6yu1xs4g it became about cheap quantitative growth, rather than deep qualitative growth. People started accepting compromise about the gifts of the Spirit, refusing to seek the Lord for necessary growth.

I was born and raised in the A/G. I remember the A/G from the 60's and 70's. Preaching FIRE, holiness, fasting and prayer, powerful times "around the alter" praying and seeking God. People having deeply personal encounters with God and The Holy Ghost. Yep, my how times (and the A/G) have changed! Highly educated and self sufficient. We got this! The old timers are embarrassing to us now. Good luck folks! EXPOSURE is now coming......

@@user-sd6yu1xs4g it is, but this is why we need to install and assure proper discipleship

No where does it says "baptized with the evidence of other tongues." Yes some baptized do speak in tongues, other get other things as proof. Thats why Paul said "do all speak in tongues?" Thats for the people who speak in tongues so they won't condemn others in self righteousness. There is dreams and visions, casting out demons, they shall drink poison and not be harmed......Don't believe those that say you have to have tongues or else you don't have it.

@davidc4233 in multiple instances of Acts, they laid their hands on all, and they all were baptized. On the day of Pentecost, all were baptized in the upper room and speaking in tongues. Do not conflate 1 Cor 14, which is a demonstration of corporate tongues that are used to prophesy, with the baptism of the Holy Spirit as evidenced with tongues in Acts. Two different manifestations, two different administrations. If a person wants the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I've yet to see it not be dispensed. That said, do I prophesy with tongues even though I speak it? No. It isn't the way the Holy Spirit works through me to the body.

Maybe God doesn't want Liddell's church. Maybe this is God's way of rescuing the souls in Liddell's church.

Yes! His video is great.

Yes I saw it ! It was very good

Someone has already been to the AG and they said they don't have any control over JRC! He dropped the assembly off the name a few years back and I think that's when it happened!

@@NancyWilliams-xv9fb I looked up James River Church and searched their beliefs, it says "the general council of the Assemblies of God statement of truth. JRC should notify the AG they are no longer associated with the denomination.

Apparently he is saved and left the stripper profession. What I can't understand is why they didn't have him start the conference with his testimony of what Jesus saved him from, rather than ask him to do this old stuff for entertainment. He is probably confused about everything

@@AE-pv9vcBecause he’s not actually saved. He put out his own video stating that he is in fact not married, does not have kids and is an orthodox Christian meaning he believes he was saved as an infant. He goes on to describe how Jesus “saves” his life and it is not at all aligned with this churches views.

It's the Lindell family business! All 5 are on the payroll and AG said they don't have any control over JRC! At this point it's safe to say that people are going to have to leave the church! The staff is running interference and protecting the family and no one can get a meeting with the family!

Exactly....

He should not have folded so easily I think. That pastor that allowed that to take place does not have authority to stop Mark

Don’t get it twisted Mark Driscoll only called out the Jezebel spirit because he’s trying to promote himself because he’s working on a book called the Jezebel Spirit

Lindell as a minister of the Lindell, as a minister of the Gospel ,I call you out to get on your knees and repent from the fact that you as the pastor of this church you sir lead your people and all the men that was there to stumble that is young in their faith ,this sir puts thdir blood on your hands

@@paulan7218 He said he is giving away the book, no money made.

It took over a week. I believe it was from the overall consensus regarding his behavior. Yet, he still has not admitted to being wrong or apologized for his behavior.

Public event, public repent.

John is getting ready to retire and hand it down to the kids! I don't believe the death threat calls! I think that's a way of not having to answer questions! At this point I want proof of everything not John's words!