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Federal Prison Camp Versus a Low Security Prison

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Justin Paperny & Michael Santos discuss the differences between a federal prison camp and low security prison.
Justin Paperny: Hi everyone. This is Justin Paperny with White Collar Advice and today I’m going to talk with my mentor and colleague Michael Santos.
Michael, many of the clients by way of White Collar Advice end up at a federal prison camp, somehow ever do go to a low and there are many questions about the differences between a low and a camp. You, of course served 26 consecutive years in prison of all security levels, including a low and a camp. So, on the top of your mind are there any significant differences that you can share with our viewers?
Michael Santos: Absolutely. There is a big difference between a low and a camp. As you mentioned, I served time in prison of every security level and I can tell you every security level where you drop there is a huge difference. Now, that doesn’t mean that at individual can’t live a life of meaning and relevance regardless of where he or she is confined, but there are big differences between security levels. With a low, a problem that a lot of people have is they have this misperception that it is dangerous. Now, the reality is, it’s dangerous living out here in society. It doesn’t matter where you are you're always vulnerable. You're always living with people and although you can control your own behaviour, you can't control the behaviour of other people.
Okay, but in a low there are a number of people who could very easily serve their time in a camp. The only reason that they're in a low is because a lot of times is because either they are an immigrant and not a US citizen, and so they would be in a camp, but their citizenship precludes them or they were convicted of a crime that has such a high dollar amount that requires them to have a longer sentences. So, they are serving time inside of offense because the release date is beyond 10 years away. That said anyone who is inside of a low can really find more opportunities that exist in a camp. You see, a camp generally has a population of between hundred people on the sparsely populated camp to as many as 1000 people at a big camp like Maxwell in Alabama. Most lows are going to have populations of 1000 to 2000 people inside of one institution, one facility, and as a consequence of them having 2000 people you can expect there are going to be a lot more programs and a lot more activities to pursue in a low. So, that's a huge advantage for people. When you have 2000 people around you, you will always find somebody that you can connect to, somebody that you can be friends with. There is just such a wide variety of people. When I was in a camp I was with Wall Street bankers, I was with medical doctors, with surgeons, with entrepreneurs, with well-educated people, and I was with gang members.
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@sampompeo9747
@sampompeo9747 8 жыл бұрын
Great info delivered in an easy to understand format. The more I watch the more I learn. Keep up the good work, you are an inspiration and are definitely helping people. I know that is and has always been your focus.
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@guerardhoward7022
@guerardhoward7022 8 жыл бұрын
Once again, great information. I had fgriends at camp that said they wished they had stayed at the low they transferred from gecause there was so much more to do.
@StellarBlue1
@StellarBlue1 6 жыл бұрын
Having spent 28 years in the U.S. Army, I find it amusing how similar in many instances, the "Federal" experience is. I can relate to my Federal Prison counterparts because the Army was set up (especially for enlisted personnel) in some very familiar manners. Many times, we shared a room with 3 other personnel, in the quad configuration. Needing a pass, cleaning your room, maintaining your locker is sometimes a little too close to confinement of a sorts. The way I look at it, all did our "federal" time, didn't we?
@mikesgoodmann9349
@mikesgoodmann9349 5 жыл бұрын
Better 6 weeks than 60 months! lol
@jessekauffman3336
@jessekauffman3336 3 ай бұрын
I was in the navy I agree
@rogergalvin9637
@rogergalvin9637 8 жыл бұрын
Nice job you guys and thanks for all you do.
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rachelmarieshouse6240
@rachelmarieshouse6240 7 жыл бұрын
what is a drop zone? Ex affiliated inmates? do they stay at camp or low?
@darinlg1_problemchild153
@darinlg1_problemchild153 6 жыл бұрын
It's a blessing I found this channel so much good info and to give your contact information like a phone number that helps us who just found you and need specific information quickly. The more I watch the more I think I can do this but I'll be 52 very soon I could come out anywhere from 55 to 62 I don't see any good that can come from me being locked up for a long or short time. I think I'm going to have to decide is life worth living? I just don't know. Thank you for all you do. God bless and if ya care pray or just wish me well. Thanks again for doing what you do
@Berkmnn
@Berkmnn 2 жыл бұрын
My dad is the same age and says the same things. I don’t know you or the situation but it’s not life sentence. Don’t make it one. I hope you the best.
@sarahpirkle9476
@sarahpirkle9476 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information about this,
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome.
@prudencejane3535
@prudencejane3535 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting point about camp versus low. I have a female friend who just got out of what she called a couples retreat type prison which I believe was a low. I also noticed that once or twice y'all said camp when you meant low and vice versa. Got a little confusing but whatever...informative as always.
@leonardodalongisland
@leonardodalongisland Жыл бұрын
If your friend called it "a couples retreat type prison," she was not in a low-definitely a camp.
@glitzandglam5233
@glitzandglam5233 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very informative
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome.
@statinskill
@statinskill 6 жыл бұрын
Why should someone who committed some of the more esoteric white collar crimes even have to worry about having to be around someone who killed a bunch of innocent people with an ice pick? Why should someone who is serving time for embezzlement have to leave prison with internalized automatic behaviors such as always standing with the back towards a wall in public spaces? My take on the situation is, if you haven't committed a violent act before you went to prison, you should be afforded the same protection from violent criminals while you are in prison like you would be outside of prison. That starts with not putting normal people into the same facility with violent freaks.
@mikesgoodmann9349
@mikesgoodmann9349 5 жыл бұрын
Because in a capitalistic society, crimes against property are considered to be far more serious than crimes against persons.
@mikesgoodmann9349
@mikesgoodmann9349 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of the "good ole USA"!
@gali605
@gali605 5 жыл бұрын
Yea. Obviously different security arrangements should be implemented based upon security issues. Someone who is a threat to others needs to be guarded much more closely than someone who is in for tax fraud or bribery.
@mikesgoodmann9349
@mikesgoodmann9349 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but some crimes like interstate auto theft are considered to be "violent".
@maxpayne2574
@maxpayne2574 5 жыл бұрын
So if you steal millions with a pen you go to club Fed if you steal $100 with no weapon you go to real prison
@louiselanthier5135
@louiselanthier5135 2 жыл бұрын
I am interested in the difference in the food!
@melbedewy
@melbedewy 6 жыл бұрын
Camps and lows BOTH suck because they throw you on bunk beds out in the open with no privacy and plenty of NOISE. Medium's are the best. Privacy and without the violent nuts at the penitentiaries.
@dienersamuel1
@dienersamuel1 4 жыл бұрын
Well there’s violent nuts at medium and even low security federal prison.
@graceanneful
@graceanneful 8 ай бұрын
Great info!
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial
@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@animatedaboutlife
@animatedaboutlife 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is very interesting. I always thought that a camp would be the most ideal, but I guess not for everyone.
@beenonthamov
@beenonthamov 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome.. A strong mind set..
@chitwnhood
@chitwnhood 6 жыл бұрын
@ 09:50 we called it 10 min. moves
@garyhall6294
@garyhall6294 6 жыл бұрын
I was at the last Federal coed camp in Spokane, WA. It was at Geiger Correctional facility. Wild! My time spent on new charges after that wasn't so great. Should have stopped there, lol.
@robsosa2914
@robsosa2914 4 жыл бұрын
Garry Hall did you have $ex with w/ fenales???
@robsosa2914
@robsosa2914 4 жыл бұрын
Oop$ meant female pri$oners??
@ponrix
@ponrix 4 жыл бұрын
Felicity Huffman brought me here.
@hardcandy7112
@hardcandy7112 5 жыл бұрын
LET GET REAL , THE ONLY DIFFERANT IS A INVISABLE LINE 'OUT OF BOUND'' AT THE CAMP , And anyone that see you doing something you shouldn't be doing ,they will rat you out for a ''Furlough ' to the Captain or LT. LET FACE THE ACT , sometime it better to stay in the big house , less rule and less work , at the camp , you have to many young punk trying to be super cop looking for a pair of extra dirty under ware to smell in your locker., one thing they can't stop 'THE CLOCK''
@hardcandy7112
@hardcandy7112 5 жыл бұрын
I KNOW 1001 STORY OF FEDERAL PRISON DETENTION , FROM MCC TO EL RENO TO ATLANTAUSP, OVER 7 FEDERAL TRANSFER AND ONE ESCAPE AND INSIDE PRISON LOVE AFFAIR W FEMALE OFFICER.
@GoldenOldiesMusicCollector
@GoldenOldiesMusicCollector 6 жыл бұрын
Why does the Federal BOP place convicts far far away from their families? Example, Your family is in California but the Federal BOP sends you to a Federal Prison in Hawaii or Florida?
@andredickerson5800
@andredickerson5800 6 жыл бұрын
For one it depends on your security level . If you commit a crime in the Western District of Missouri and your offense level ends up being 15, that qualifies you for a low. However the closest low to that area in that particular district is in Oklahoma. So you would likely be in Oklahoma. Also they have to take into consideration the population of the prisons if your closest prison is full then they're just going to have to take you to the nearest prison of your security level that has vacancies.
@leonardodalongisland
@leonardodalongisland Жыл бұрын
Going into Anything-"scared" is foolish and completely useless. The act of being "scared" is projecting potential-negative occurrences/issue in a future situation. It has Nothing to do with your NOW-which is the only thing that exist. Be it prison, school, a neighborhood or an impending conversation, "scared" has never and will never help you. I learned this valuable lesson while incarcerated-and being scared several times...until I realized ninety percent of my "scared thoughts" never came to fruition. Be PREPARED-not scared! Also, I was in seven different fed joints (mostly mediums-lows), everyone had ":controlled movements" which are just like you have in high schools-the bell rings and move to your next class/gym, yard, work, etc. And, I have to disagree about how any "preparation" can change/alter the facility you're going to. Other than medical issues-which would initially be raised by your attorney-the BOP (not the judge) decides where you're doing your time.
@illiminatieoverlordgurglek140
@illiminatieoverlordgurglek140 6 жыл бұрын
You will hear from people who have spend live sentences.. Spooky. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Please don't shank me, homey.
@mulaguuapo
@mulaguuapo Жыл бұрын
How is Danbury Fci I surrender tomorrow
@brooklyn90s77
@brooklyn90s77 4 жыл бұрын
Fci loretto was the best low.. more like a camp...
@Teresa0871
@Teresa0871 5 жыл бұрын
I have been to a state prison and know what to expect there, but I do not know what to expect at a federal prison.
@hardcandy7112
@hardcandy7112 5 жыл бұрын
From what I heard at Tallahassee FCI/ Lexington FCI K.y woman federal prison , most woman doing time there go GAY 70%,Then when released they go to mother to live and try to look for a sugar daddy , most Marriages don't survive in Prison.
@biggestbrowneyes
@biggestbrowneyes 6 жыл бұрын
Do You Know anything thing about Coleman Low Prison in Florida ? As I have family member there ? Is it a Safe Prison Education Available Etc......
@readynow12345
@readynow12345 7 жыл бұрын
Either this dude is lying or he been in prison his whole the way he's talking, well I got 45yrs when I got down to 10yrs something doesn't jive.
@anastasia10017
@anastasia10017 7 жыл бұрын
is it true you can pay extra money to get a softer jail experience for white collar criminals ?
@garyhall6294
@garyhall6294 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter if you're White Collar or not. If you have money in the Feds, you can buy things like a lower bunk, room cleaning from other inmates who don't have much money, etc. I knew one guy at USP Beaumont who turned down UNICOR. When I asked him why, he told me he sent his leather work out to his sister, who then sold it at the flea markets. He never worried about money.
@mikesgoodmann9349
@mikesgoodmann9349 5 жыл бұрын
If you know Bill or Hillary, then yes.
@ndrthrdr1
@ndrthrdr1 5 жыл бұрын
Where is Trump's lawyer Comey going?
@beachbum1523
@beachbum1523 Жыл бұрын
Do federal prisons offer concierge services? (Asking for a wealthy friend in Florida who shall remain unnamed!) 😜😜
@brandonblue9849
@brandonblue9849 6 жыл бұрын
Lies!!! Been to medium in Marion ill, low in Minnesota, and camp in Leavenworth ks this guy is on some straight bs
@jaredmendez9705
@jaredmendez9705 5 жыл бұрын
How was the camp in Leavenworth?
@SK-pf3up
@SK-pf3up 5 жыл бұрын
@@jaredmendez9705 i have a family member there now it sucks very old no Ac....etc
@jaredmendez9705
@jaredmendez9705 5 жыл бұрын
@@SK-pf3up thank you buddy
@laceyhawks1181
@laceyhawks1181 5 жыл бұрын
S K completely agree! My fiancé is in low in mn right now and no ac... miserable, he goes to camp 4 hours closer to us in 2 weeks! I’m excited for him to have a/c lol
@confuzionday7458
@confuzionday7458 2 жыл бұрын
@@laceyhawks1181 my husband just went to Marion camp yesterday. I'm so lost...we haven't been apart in 23 years
@abbiebeast
@abbiebeast 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you all should go into an honest line of work (good golly) - and please your life was NEVER in danger every moment.... I'm sure the tennis courts challenged you, then again your game probably got better too as a result cause that's all you had to focus on!!
@laceyhawks1181
@laceyhawks1181 5 жыл бұрын
Johnny B It’s apparent that you have never had someone close to you in the federal prison system or want to learn the reality. It’s not just “tennis courts.” My “friend” in the federal system is very athletic and always has been.. he participates in football, basketball, and softball there. The sports have to have different minority inmates on each team... its integrated and actually helps reduce gang violence. The sports do keep them active and less depressed... The organized competition teaches them to cope with loss and develop healthy relationships while there. Also so they can continue with a healthy hobby/lifestyle when they come home. It’s actually proven to reduce violence and segregation in the prison. Is it the country club setting that I prefer??? Heck no!!! And YES there is danger... you never know what’s going on in the guys head that just walked past you. Who knows if their wife just cheated on them and took their child away.... or a close unexpected death... who knows if they are mentally stable? So yes their lives CAN BE in danger.... but so can ours! Driving down the road, we never know who or what’s going on in the car coming at us... Perhaps you shouldn’t be on their video if you don’t approve of their “line of work.” Do some research or quit being close minded before you judge...
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