Fedora 36 Silverblue: The 3 Guiding Principles for a Successful Experience

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2 жыл бұрын

Fedora Silverblue is the emerging immutable distribution that promises speed, security, reliability, and stability. These are easily achieved by following 3 guiding principles. Here are all the steps I take to create the perfect (for me) Fedora install that I used to create this video!
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@DanielTolentino42
@DanielTolentino42 2 жыл бұрын
Fedora Silverblue is amazing! It's a nice distro for gaming too, with flatpak steam, hero launcher and Lutris from flathub beta repo. None of that Wine and x86 libs messing with the system anymore.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
So true! :)
@59wargear
@59wargear 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best and most interesting videos so far Stephan thank you!
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you like this one!
@theodoreivanov6257
@theodoreivanov6257 Жыл бұрын
Another useful lesson. I ran into some puzzling newbie quirks after updating, then wrote on a piece of paper which I keep next to my keyboard: REBOOT ! It all runs smoothly thereafter. A really great system.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, thanks for watching!
@rawbeartoe_AK
@rawbeartoe_AK Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that informative overview of Fedora Silverblue. I will be formatting my system and installing Silverblue this week.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@karenhenson3786
@karenhenson3786 2 жыл бұрын
Fab distro - great video lots of insights for us all, and you seem to be on fire Steven. Keep 'em coming! Particularly liked your jammy-dodger (if you see what I mean 😂 a few weeks ago!) Thanks love it!
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you Karen! :)
@spaceiswater6539
@spaceiswater6539 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thank you so much Stephen.
@deplag3486
@deplag3486 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content! I undoubtedly will switch to SilverBlue in the nearest future.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@brads2041
@brads2041 Жыл бұрын
Just trying out Fedora 38 silverblue. Very helpful
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@meoweth9559
@meoweth9559 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video glad I came across it. Been playing around with Silverblue and didn't quite understand where mutability both started and ended I think I have a better idea now. Got my sub
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support!
@bjorn2625
@bjorn2625 Жыл бұрын
Super clear and deals more with the practicality than the theory.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@heatherg.
@heatherg. 4 ай бұрын
This was very useful
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 4 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@PiperUsmc
@PiperUsmc Жыл бұрын
Subbed! Good video. I'm thinking about delving into the Silverblue life
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@AD-yo1pg
@AD-yo1pg 10 ай бұрын
Since the immutables got some more recognition in the last year or two, what I would like someone to make is a more in-depth comparison of different technologies. Most of what I've seen stops at "fedora - toolbox and rpm-ostree, microos - distrobox and btrfs snapshots" but I still don't know what are the pros and cons of each approach. Nevertheless, as always great video! keep'em coming :)
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions and your support!
@budhajeewa
@budhajeewa Жыл бұрын
This helped me get stared wih Silverblue 37.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped with the latest version! :)
@MichaelSharpTechniSmart
@MichaelSharpTechniSmart Жыл бұрын
Stunningly more brilliant than your regular tutorials. Silverblue is the end of my distro search. How did you get Extension Manager installed? I did not see you install it. Is the 37 install much different?
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Extension Manager is a Flatpak - works well with SB. Too much layering needed for QEMU/KVM but for containerized workflows SB is ideal!
@seanpaul7069
@seanpaul7069 2 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting project from Fedora. Great review as always :) Question - what do you use on your desktop? What stable Linux Distro you recommend for desktop?
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! :) My desktops are a mix of Arch + Xfce or Plasma, and Fedora 36 WS Gnome. Tiling WMs don't fit my workflow very well with large 4k monitors, but I use i3 with small laptops...
@seanpaul7069
@seanpaul7069 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenstechtalks5377 great. I’m using Arch and Plasma as well on my main machine. I play around with different distros in virt manager. May be you can educate us more on Nix OS and Alpine OS in future videos :)
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanpaul7069 Appreciate the suggestions, cheers!
@alexandroskechagias
@alexandroskechagias Жыл бұрын
This was a great introduction into Fedora Silverblue. Thanks for that! I wish toolbox would have a more "isolated" mode, where it doesn't pollute my mutable FS(eg home dir). In order to have that complete isolation, I would need to use podman directly.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I found giving distroboxes their own, separate home directories keeps things clean as well. :)
@alexandroskechagias
@alexandroskechagias Жыл бұрын
@@stephenstechtalks5377 Hmm, this is a good idea for long-living containers, I think that they would benefit from their own workspace. Maybe I should try that. My minimal effort solution right now: I switch to the /tmp folder and do everything inside there.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, giving a distrobox its own home directory is a command line switch so you can set up throwaway containers just as easily.
@alfios.lanuto5432
@alfios.lanuto5432 2 жыл бұрын
Compliments deserved for an excellent introduction to Silverblue (SB). I welcome any guidance for installing SB on a Chromebook to replace the Chrome OS.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! My understanding is that most modern Chromebooks (particularly non Intel-based) lack the firmware for supporting anything other than Chrome OS. See if your model is listed here: wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility For a cheap Linux laptop, maybe an older Thinkpad from ebay would be a better option?
@claycassin8437
@claycassin8437 Жыл бұрын
Any way to set up the taskbar in traditional bottom orientation, with everything placed on it and nothing along the top? Ideally set up simply during the installation of the OS. I am just now getting into Linux because Windows 11 is a road too far for me...but I remember trying to use Macs. I just couldn't do it. I can't get used to the changed GUI. I need everything to be where it is supposed to be, as Microsoft trained(brainwashed) me. After 28 years of using Windows, it's far too late for me to change. Ironically, the different file structure does not faze me all that much.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend the Dash to Panel GNOME extension from extensions.gnome.org/ - check out what it looks like here: nobaraproject.org/download-nobara/ Top picture, see the Start Menu bottom left... Good luck, and thanks for watching!
@notquitecopacetic
@notquitecopacetic Жыл бұрын
So if I install VS Code via the toolbox will all its settings disappear if I remove it and reinstall it? In other words, do containerized (even Flatpaks) still leave junk in your home directory, and just not leave files in the system? Often I wish I could roll back my home directory.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
With Distrobox the home directory is one of the resources shared, so the settings will not disappear unless you manually remove them after uninstalling vscode. :) Distrobox is a front-end for Podman - for a more isolated setup I've found this site to be a good starting point: docs.podman.io/en/latest/
@jawuku3885
@jawuku3885 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'll have to try this. I quite like the macOS look too. Can global menus be installed in Gnome?
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
Global like a start menu? Try the ArcMenu extension! :)
@jawuku3885
@jawuku3885 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenstechtalks5377 I was thinking of the menu from the active application being displayed on the top bar, like in macOS.
@DanielTolentino42
@DanielTolentino42 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jawuku3885 'Fildem global menu' extension does that, but it's not available for 42, yet.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! Not in GNOME that I’m aware of unfortunately…
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@carnap355
@carnap355 Жыл бұрын
why did sudo dnf upgrade find packages to upgrade if you already updated the whole system before?
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
At this point, my guess would be a straggling dependency? Thanks for watching! :)
@Fathorrr
@Fathorrr 10 ай бұрын
Amazing video! but how to launch (e.g gnome-tweaks inside toolbox) from the applications menu?
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 10 ай бұрын
Have you tried (within distrobox) “ distrobox-export --app gnome-tweaks”? I prefer distrobox over toolbox since it makes things like this so much easier… :)
@johnsnyder4379
@johnsnyder4379 Жыл бұрын
Does the base installation of Silverblue include everything necessary to create and run virtual machines, or must that be added as a layer?
@johnsnyder4379
@johnsnyder4379 Жыл бұрын
Oops - I see later in the video that they must be added manually. In addition to the programs you have listed, I would add remote-viewer to your list of downloads.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Good call!
@johnsnyder4379
@johnsnyder4379 Жыл бұрын
Stephen, I've watched this video three times and your Debian Stable/Arch AUR video at least twice. I've installed Fedora Kinoite in a KVM virtual machine in preparation for a switch over on my main machine. HOWEVER, I can't find any way to automount external hard drives. I've modified the fstab file in my current Fedora 36 installation, but that doesn't seem to be possible with these immutable distributions. I've located the fstab file way deep in the Kinoite directory structure, but I get a "permissions" error when trying to modify it. Any suggestions???
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Hi John, as you've already discovered, immutable images won't allow modification of system files. What happens when you launch Dolphin (KDE's file manager in Kinoite) and simply plug in your external drive? Dolphin is *supposed* to auto-mount it. How is the drive formatted?
@johnsnyder4379
@johnsnyder4379 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenstechtalks5377 I inserted a USB flash drive and yes, it is mounted in /run/media. I suppose I can assume that six permanently installed SSDs would be treated similarly. However, I use several of these SSDs for overflow storage and backup. Would /run/media/ or /dev/sda or UUID=2d9597ef-1103-4e3f-bff8-56fe503dff8b be sufficient to permanently identify them, or would these identifiers change with each boot?
@hammerheadcorvette4
@hammerheadcorvette4 2 жыл бұрын
I only wish we could have systemd-boot instead of Grub as an option. I would have to maintain my own os-tree to do so. . .
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
SB is still a bit of a tech preview, so who knows...
@EzekielPrellus
@EzekielPrellus Жыл бұрын
I don't quite get how /etc can be immutable. I often want to tweak package configs that live in /etc
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Key configs are linked in from /var, which of course you can change. I believe the intent of SB is your add-on packages are containerized/sandboxed in userland.
@EzekielPrellus
@EzekielPrellus Жыл бұрын
@@stephenstechtalks5377 I did some checking on this and /etc is writable, but is image-specific via the /ostree directory. When you upgrade with rpm-ostree, it preserves your layering changes via diff and copy from /ostree.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
@@EzekielPrellus Indeed, thanks for sharing!
@androth1502
@androth1502 2 жыл бұрын
love silverblue so far. installing nvidia drivers has been a pain though.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
I bet, thanks for sharing!
@EzekielPrellus
@EzekielPrellus Жыл бұрын
Really? I run Fedora workstation (for years) and the process involves adding the repo rpmfusion-nonfree and then issuing a few dnf install's. Easy. I thought Silverblue would let you do something quite similar except with rpm-ostree.
@androth1502
@androth1502 Жыл бұрын
@@EzekielPrellus i have both fedora workstation and fedora silverblue installed on the same hardware. on the workstation, installation was no issue and it worked relatively well. on silverblue, it was a pain to install the (long bug thread about this) had to use workarounds and even when installed, i couldn't get it to work very well. i haven't used either of the newer version 37. maybe the issue is fixed. i'll have to try it soon. i pretty much like everything about silverblue (works great on my non-nvidia laptop) except that it won't work right on my desktop.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@davidwayne9982
@davidwayne9982 2 жыл бұрын
Does that mean the CUSTOMIZABILITY of the previous versions is gone.. ????
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
The images are monolithic read-only but can be modified by layering via rpm-ostree. :)
@quantumspace1266
@quantumspace1266 Жыл бұрын
:)
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 Жыл бұрын
:D
@johnhill2813
@johnhill2813 2 жыл бұрын
This is like all other Fedora distros, terrible installer that makes the simple complicated even if you pick the straightforward installation. Terribly slow to update and then it will break after the first or second update. I don't have a new or too old setup and all other distros run fine but as for Fedora it just doesn't do it for me.
@stephenstechtalks5377
@stephenstechtalks5377 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, there’s a distro out there for just about everyone!
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