SUPREME COMMANDER EPIC

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Gyle

Gyle

Жыл бұрын

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@martinf9095
@martinf9095 Жыл бұрын
Player martian here. I never thought one of my games would be called an EPIC, so thanks Gyle! I think that our team lost because of the lack of teamwork since I wasn't paying attention to the right side. Also the bottom team played really well and their teamwork was much better. If anyone has any advice on what to improve, feel free to comment below. I would love to read it :)
@Gnaaal
@Gnaaal Жыл бұрын
Clone yourself 3 times. The only way to beat 3 cybrans is with 4 cybrans :)
@Azaraneth
@Azaraneth Жыл бұрын
you cant be mature and open to feedback! this is the internet! With that out of my system i am going to retire to a russian bot farm.
@alexioskomnenos5290
@alexioskomnenos5290 Жыл бұрын
Generally, try to play mostly zoomed out (the best players play zoomed out 90% of the time), this will help a lot with your map awareness. Also with a superior eco and a massively advantageous map state, scouting becomes high priority so you can see what is coming (with that much eco you can easily spam t3 air scouts, not scouting the enemy game ender was your biggest mistake this game). This tip is related to the first, because by being zoomed out a lot, you realize what area of the map lacks intel over time. I assume you also had omni up at a decent time as well, so you can easily see when engineers are clustered around something for instance, so that will tell you that you should scout and have a look. One more thing for late game, is if you have a giant stack of novaxes like that (or the equivalent such as t3 or t4 arty), then the main goal is to just keep those alive and you'll win. Snipe the anti nukes with the novaxes, nuke it, that sort of thing. Otherwise you did great! You were hard carrying the northern team, and they just stole the game away from you due to a few easily fixable mistakes. P.S with a massive eco like that, you generally only need to match the enemy team in experimentals and stay defensive with them while protecting your game ending strategy (in this case, novaxes). It's similar to early game as well in team games, where you only really need just enough t1 and perhaps com upgrades to stay alive and hold your half of the map while hard ecoing back home. In lower ratings as long as you can eco up and balance your eco at the same time (spend at least 50% of your income on making more eco, unless the game will end in 3 minutes or less based on your scouting info), you will hard carry, like you almost did this game.
@fluphfmcbrakka
@fluphfmcbrakka Жыл бұрын
Damn you gave us a hard time! Well played (I'm Brobey)! It was a fun game to play for sure!
@nightstriker5885
@nightstriker5885 Жыл бұрын
you played a solid game on your team part tho a bit more defensive turrets in key locastion to by time would have helped you a bit more from mass pushes and maybe walls to slow hard advances
@ChrisHaggan
@ChrisHaggan Жыл бұрын
Note that Vexy couldn't get his ships out of that pond because it wasn't pathable (deep enough).
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 Жыл бұрын
but why did cruise missiles refused to launch? that was by far the bigger problem
@youtubeforcinghandlessucks
@youtubeforcinghandlessucks Жыл бұрын
@@512TheWolf512 aeon cruisers are just anti air
@AstroBioMan
@AstroBioMan Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how annoyed Vexy must have been upon finding out that strait was impassable XD
@shaunr001
@shaunr001 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I am InABlink this game was defiantly one of the most fun games I've ever played. Just because even though both teams made mistakes it was fairly balanced and the trades where good fun! It was even better because no one gave up and CTRL-K everyone just stuck it on both sides that made it a real good game in the end. Martin you where a pain for me the whole game gg dude!
@Puschit1
@Puschit1 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it had some quite phases but it's an entertaining game and mistakes are a big part of it. Without those mistakes all games would look similar. Also, I really hate when lower players die and some pros take over (damn full share). Here, however, when players are around 1000 rating, they can't fully utilize the extra base, so killing someone does have an impact.
@TrueFireMessiah
@TrueFireMessiah Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. I was just thinking what to do this evening. Gyle posts an Epic - "Yup, that's evening plans sorted"
@Frazzledragon
@Frazzledragon Жыл бұрын
The Megalith stood up in the intro. Such a rare occurance. Yay!
@Hedning1390
@Hedning1390 Жыл бұрын
That fight was totally unpredictable. Seemed to turn several times. I agree with Martian for mvp. At this level of skill, even if you have similar total mass, it is hard dealing with multiple enemy players at once. Inablink should not be mvp. Even though he had the "winning piece" he totally abandoned his teammates several times. Also I don't think he would even had that at the end if not for the clutch save from Tutenhamoun.
@Vastin
@Vastin Жыл бұрын
Agreed that while InaBlink did close it out, he also undercut his teammates several times in the mid-game by bugging out of fights that he could have made a crucial difference in, particularly in the air, so I think I'd also go with Martian as MVP. His play was solid throughout and his economy strongly carried T1 through most of the game, even if he didn't quite pull it out in the end.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn Жыл бұрын
@@Vastin Better than Flesch at least, who totally missed two potential com kills. Tho tbf to him, he was still very actively fighting
@scfan7231
@scfan7231 Жыл бұрын
That was super Epic. I remember seeing the Scathis under construction and discarding it: "Game will be long over once it's ready". And it was the only thing capable of ending the game, and end it it did.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 Жыл бұрын
>"good afternoon" >uploads near midnight
@samthetinkerer4947
@samthetinkerer4947 Жыл бұрын
For those thinking you may of seen this before, willow's Duality uploaded this match yesterday. Cast#215. Not a dig at Gyle as I am sure this was unintentional.
@icyknightmare4592
@icyknightmare4592 Жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see how casters with different styles cover the same game. Like that crazy 1v1 Setons that Gyle and Jagged casted a while back.
@AlexCOM1986
@AlexCOM1986 Жыл бұрын
i saw Willows Cast Yesterday, was thinking the same thing when i saw GYLE-Cast this morning,, still watched both :)
@fantasypvp
@fantasypvp Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that XD
@DSzaks
@DSzaks Жыл бұрын
Hmm 3 cybran vs cyan cybran.... tough to know which team to root for in this one. Wow cant believe that ended like that. What a thrilling match, gg team 2. More Cybran = More good :D
@Sinshiro917
@Sinshiro917 Жыл бұрын
In relation to why BornToChill never buildt a quantum gateway, is likely because Seraphim are the only faction that don't actually have RAS/ARAS on their SACUs.
@darkwolf1304
@darkwolf1304 Жыл бұрын
so...about that custom AI link Gyle?
@garethfranks4223
@garethfranks4223 Жыл бұрын
LOVE watching FAF Love listening to you gyle. I did stop watching for a while but fully back and every video watched again lol
@tabletopsidekick
@tabletopsidekick Жыл бұрын
What an excellent easter gift! An Epic cast by our favourite Supreme Commander.
@polarislol1455
@polarislol1455 Жыл бұрын
I have never played this game but for some reason its the perfect thing to study to. Keep them coming!!
@bellidrael7457
@bellidrael7457 Жыл бұрын
Yellow almost lost them the game when he had 2 crabs able to kill Martian's commander, but seemingly just got up from his computer to go make a sandwich instead and left his crabs doing whatever they felt like.
@Vastin
@Vastin Жыл бұрын
Damn, that was a throw-down. Great match by all involved and really fun to watch.
@kevinking795
@kevinking795 Жыл бұрын
Such an awesome video Gyle!! This was probably my favorite video you’ve made!
@mattipiirainen7440
@mattipiirainen7440 Жыл бұрын
actually happy to have heard your dog. :) Best SupCom match I've seen. thank you for you and the players!
@blackhawkdown342
@blackhawkdown342 Жыл бұрын
These uploads always deserve the title of epic game. I really have no doubts that I would have given up three or four times over before they threw in the towel.
@WraithMagus
@WraithMagus Жыл бұрын
That eastern shipyard started around 17:24. It's visible in the stream 18:31, operational 18:37, destroyed 25:56. The turnaround on the counter wasn't *that* quick.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat Жыл бұрын
an 8 minute turnaround in faf isn't bad considering the travel time and building tank
@DerKaetzer
@DerKaetzer Жыл бұрын
Hah! Feels good to see your full intro again. ^^ Slow game, but the end was way worth it. Keep 'em coming, big ol`Gyle! :D
@lastwymsi
@lastwymsi Жыл бұрын
I called the Scathys unintentionally, earlier on I was like "man, they should really go for a scathys, that would put a lot of serious pressure on the other team." And low an behold, the Scathys put some serious pressure on the enemy team lol
@Kvasir98
@Kvasir98 Жыл бұрын
Amazing cast as usual! Thanks man!
@Without_Limit_Auto
@Without_Limit_Auto Жыл бұрын
That is a great match to be watched second time!
@jndivetrips3765
@jndivetrips3765 Жыл бұрын
We got a Willow and Gyle version!
@user-bt8gf3lh1v
@user-bt8gf3lh1v 6 ай бұрын
The big battle at the center, Gyle studies in detail a close-up of the upgrade on the commander...
@honnorgaurd
@honnorgaurd 7 ай бұрын
lmao. 10 years later and Gyle still hates the cybrans and their walking destroyers and telelazers xD. its cracks me up xD. Good to see you still doing content of this game Gyle. Happy new year!
@Liberty_Prime199
@Liberty_Prime199 Жыл бұрын
Wowee what an awesome ending that was, fantastic play from Martian and InaBlink.
@adampalmer2958
@adampalmer2958 Жыл бұрын
I have to say. This was the best battle ive seen. These joes were better than most pros. Not saying that to offend anyone. Saying it because it was action packed and got to see alot 9f air engagements, ground engagements. Even a few naval engagements. And was so hard to tell even at the ejd who was going to win. I was hoping T1 took it because they had map control right at the start. But lost it early afterwards. Yellow player made the most of his "lock down" and went ape nuts on the building of decent units to contest. So i have to say. This was a super enjoyable episode. And battles like this is quite few apart. They may have low scores and called out as joes. But they made the most of it. And made this more enjoyable than watching some pro episodes.
@GameAlicornLuna
@GameAlicornLuna Жыл бұрын
I saw this game yesterday and it was epic then...and it's still epic now.
@akarablagg6834
@akarablagg6834 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PrinceSilvermane
@PrinceSilvermane Жыл бұрын
I think the logic in not going for the com kills is trying to kill infrastructure instead. In Fullshare games if you kill a Com it doesn't really accomplish too much except put all of their bases in a (presumably) more dangerous player. There's an argument to be made for cutting the team's APM and attention down though.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn Жыл бұрын
That argument mainly holds for games featuring teams with very low and very high rated players playing together. Not the case here.
@bellidrael7457
@bellidrael7457 Жыл бұрын
The problem with that logic is times like when yellow had 2 crabs on Martian's commander, and didn't kill him. BornToChill was effectively out of the game and his Commander was compeletely out of position. Once Martian was dead it would have only been a few minutes before BornToChill followed because of his Commander's position.
@DecoD100
@DecoD100 Жыл бұрын
That was a truly epic fight guys, well played and thanks Gyle for the great broadcast. Had me on the edge of my seat for most of the way through.
@itzthompsen7931
@itzthompsen7931 Жыл бұрын
an awesome video!
@ryanphillips5341
@ryanphillips5341 10 ай бұрын
my days my guy at 27 minutes is watching engis build a base when theres an epic battle in mid going onnnnn!! the pain of missing out
@tasselhoffburfoot3252
@tasselhoffburfoot3252 Жыл бұрын
Gyle, someone has to say it. You're awesome!
@David-du2fd
@David-du2fd Жыл бұрын
Well done Gyle :-)
@uberlizard2880
@uberlizard2880 Жыл бұрын
Wow awesome match
@smiyles95
@smiyles95 Жыл бұрын
THis had me at the edge of my seat I HAD to stay up late to finish it. Love a game where you have no idea who is going to win
@dasilentzealot
@dasilentzealot Жыл бұрын
Wow, I looked back at this game and I had no idea that the scathis can pack up and move!
@grovsey3656
@grovsey3656 Жыл бұрын
That was an amazing game.
@awesomesauce980
@awesomesauce980 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time I've ever seen a video "posted 22 seconds ago." youtube recs are weird
@Ben-gq9tx
@Ben-gq9tx Жыл бұрын
it keeps happening all the time if you're too often here and have too many subs 😂😂
@Gnaaal
@Gnaaal Жыл бұрын
4/5s of the map was wasteland by the end of the game. I like ^^ GG guys, really nice game!
@nicholaslennon
@nicholaslennon Жыл бұрын
I quite liked the simple logo starts.
@ohmyshou1der
@ohmyshou1der Жыл бұрын
Epic, chaotic, uncoordinated, gotto love average Joe matches
@kennyg1358
@kennyg1358 6 ай бұрын
Those five chickens that got wasted on the sand bar would have come in handy for the base defense.
@donwanna3906
@donwanna3906 Жыл бұрын
Epic AF.
@johnfaux8651
@johnfaux8651 Жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy game
@PetersaberHD
@PetersaberHD Жыл бұрын
21:45 - he said "not passable - gg" ... lol
@RyanHDR
@RyanHDR Жыл бұрын
1:04:45 That has to be the WORST exp push I've ever seen, lmao. He got nuthin out of that one.
@bobphooman
@bobphooman Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful sight
@LockeShocke
@LockeShocke Жыл бұрын
Man, anyone else find it crazy how these long games can be balanced on a knife-edge for like an hour, and then something snaps -- and they become these brutal slugfests? This mutually assured destruction base trades?
@distrologic2925
@distrologic2925 Жыл бұрын
crazy game 😆
@chads3938
@chads3938 Жыл бұрын
Yea saw this one 🤙
@exp-eri-mental
@exp-eri-mental Жыл бұрын
Not bagging a com when you have the upper advantage isn't an error when full share is on. problem with full share is that sniping a com doesn't always work in your favor.
@58Magis
@58Magis Жыл бұрын
what a game
@Zoey--
@Zoey-- Жыл бұрын
41:00 this runby kills my soul. I was shouting "MOVE! Look at your map!" at the screen and thats when I realised I was rooting for team 1. The biggest misplay for me though was martian having a loaded nuke sub and having SEVEN experimentals clustered right next to it and not firing the nuke. Absolute waste.
@JohnHafner
@JohnHafner Жыл бұрын
Vexy (Ravinshing Red)'s navy was trapped in the tiny pond by map gen fail. They were discussing it in the chat.
@Zappygunshot
@Zappygunshot Жыл бұрын
I feel like Brobey's telemaser could've seen more use. There were more than a few times where a couple spy planes here or there would've revealed an enemy ACU standing out by themself totally devoid of any defenses.
@MrWojas92
@MrWojas92 Жыл бұрын
It's insane how time stands still in this game... 30 minutes feels like a year...
@tyrannicalsaint
@tyrannicalsaint Жыл бұрын
Ah, looks like a game I have already seen from Willow.
@ciCCapROSTi
@ciCCapROSTi Жыл бұрын
As for MVP, it's either Brobey or InABlink. Martian massed and massed and massed, but didn't do much with his 1.3k income. He could have built almost everything, but he didn't, he amassed crabs and didn't use them properly.
@DuxGalt
@DuxGalt Жыл бұрын
I was really surprised he did not go with bugs and more air in general. He had such huge production and the other team was doing crabs. though its easy to talk when in observer mode
@PiroteusGaming
@PiroteusGaming Жыл бұрын
MeatEater is a more gentile way of saying carnivour which would be FleischFresser also that one might just be taken ^^
@CGDW2
@CGDW2 Жыл бұрын
I usually play against RNGAI. It's a world of difference compared to Sorian. More active with it's commander, doesn't throw away small waves of units (not nearly as much anyways) more map presence, will actively reclaim mass fields. Of course it still isn't really as good at making strategic decisions, but it's pretty decent. I'm a +- 800 rated Joe and if I were to 1v1 on a 10 by 10 map it'll probably win about 20% of the time, just because it's faster at (re)taking mexes across the map, and doesn't forget about macro while microing units. If it's a 20 by 20 map I'll probably lose a lot but I haven't tried.
@cobrazax
@cobrazax Жыл бұрын
white focus on his side and completely ignoring his ally being annihilated, as well as yellow push into his base, was a horrible mistake
@stevenborgogna
@stevenborgogna Жыл бұрын
ah! ah! ah!........ awww ending
@maffin1012
@maffin1012 Жыл бұрын
1:01:20 that gc just tractored some air units 😅
@Jeff55369
@Jeff55369 Жыл бұрын
blink also took down the sats earlier... so giving him mvp wouldn't be terrible for that reason either. The biggest issue, was he was donating mass early on.
@incognito-px3dz
@incognito-px3dz Жыл бұрын
i know supcom fatigue will have set in but there was alot of silly mistakes by martian late to fumble that game
@Titanscreaming
@Titanscreaming Жыл бұрын
Ever seen the game Beyond All Reason? It is just like this, free online pvp. Not sure which one i like more aha
@Mirmaker
@Mirmaker Жыл бұрын
Picture me - thinking that today ill probably be skipping hearing "floaty-floaty, naughty-naughty", just not that kind of day. Deciding to skip the beginning to get closer to t2. Aaaand skipping exactly to 11:24. Hippity hoppity - no escaping that floating
@livinglitchfield6917
@livinglitchfield6917 Жыл бұрын
Is this the original supreme commander or forged alliance?
@ambroiserabier4294
@ambroiserabier4294 Жыл бұрын
21:20 why you miss the action in the airbase at the bottom....
@TheGreatXXIV
@TheGreatXXIV Жыл бұрын
Isn't a wet dock just a dock?
@vitaliyred622
@vitaliyred622 Жыл бұрын
This is the type of games I love. It's an absolute epic on a scale that dwarfs Warhammer's siege of Terra. From squads of 5 titans emerging on the beaches, colossus being thrown as regular infantry, gigantic crabs. Pure epicness.
@JonAtomic
@JonAtomic Жыл бұрын
siege of terra was this big at one section of the wall lmao
@moochkin
@moochkin Жыл бұрын
I like how they complain about Sat's when they telesniped haha
@athenbook1773
@athenbook1773 Жыл бұрын
gg
@Innomen
@Innomen Ай бұрын
21:21 he's not allowing it, he literally can't, read the chat man heh
@eeebee6166
@eeebee6166 Жыл бұрын
If Martian had used his Megaliths to protect the Novax instead of using them to attack a destroyed base and some fueling stations in the south, he would have easily won.
@yatcu63
@yatcu63 Жыл бұрын
WTF ! Scatis can move ??
@DominikoPL
@DominikoPL Жыл бұрын
Fantastic match
@lesliegrayson1722
@lesliegrayson1722 3 ай бұрын
Pass 8AIX vs 4 easy AI and you..Good luck... it can be done..
@kareljez
@kareljez 10 ай бұрын
44:06 u missed a torp bomber snipe attempt
@Triaxx2
@Triaxx2 Жыл бұрын
Flesheater dying really boned Team 1.
@user-yg7gz2js4r
@user-yg7gz2js4r Жыл бұрын
1:01:18 lol colossus sucking in planes
@Lxyfe
@Lxyfe Жыл бұрын
is there a group of peopel i can play this game with
@lastwymsi
@lastwymsi Жыл бұрын
This game waa filled with SO MUCH CARNAGE. So many clutch plays and plannings + SO many missplays. Either side coulve lost and won if they noticed certain things.
@Innomen
@Innomen Ай бұрын
inablink mvp for sure because 3 crab novax clear
@ryanphillips5341
@ryanphillips5341 10 ай бұрын
I love you gyle but it triggers me so hard when you see a battle about to kick off then you move your attention away from it lol
@sharkcode1
@sharkcode1 Жыл бұрын
What an awful and painful match to watch. Team 2 was horrible. They couldn't reclaim, think straight or even build smds while they had time... congrats to team 1 that took the chance :)
@bittyboppity
@bittyboppity Жыл бұрын
1080p :(
@beetheimmortal
@beetheimmortal Жыл бұрын
Brobey: "This sat usage is so fucking gay" Martian: "So is telemazer" SHOTS FIRED, SHOTS FIRED I do have to say though, some parts of this game were painful to watch. So many dumb mistakes from both sides.
@derptomistic
@derptomistic Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I'm getting dominated by normal AI because I suck at eco *nervously laughs in -300 mass
@DuxGalt
@DuxGalt Жыл бұрын
Its a hard game to play when you can build anything you want, any time. You still have to pay for it though. I don't recommend actually playing like this but perhaps try playing a game and only give build orders for things you have mass in the pool to build. Doing that helps you get an intuitive sense for what things cost and eventually you can manage to keep things running on a low negative number. Not that im a pro or anything. I just know what helped me and that constantly being smart and thinking of a thing to build to stop or counter what they could do is what puts you in those -300 situations. When you see people make mistakes and think, oh i could have countered that with this. They probably did have the thought but also knew they could not afford to change production direction.
@DarkLightGaming117
@DarkLightGaming117 Жыл бұрын
Novak Satellites are so obnoxious lol.
@Innomen
@Innomen Ай бұрын
I don't think avoiding the com kills is an error, all you're doing killing coms early is doubling someone's income. People never really work as a team in these casts, so it's better to let them duplicate effort and move in opposing directions. Better to just cripple their economy and let human nature cause chaos until it's time to go in for the final kill.
@TheStrossicro
@TheStrossicro Жыл бұрын
The game got sooo much better since the meta became full share...
@ciCCapROSTi
@ciCCapROSTi Жыл бұрын
Around 40 minutes, orange has a great torp run on light blue, I wanted to badly know on how much hp he survived that. Ofc Gyle missed the whole action, as usual :D
@whappo5958
@whappo5958 Жыл бұрын
Algorithm comment™️
@dobrealexandru2303
@dobrealexandru2303 Жыл бұрын
custom AI?
@NameNotAlreadyTaken2
@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about that. How do they modify the AI? The AI would presumably be done entirely within the game's compiled C++ code, so not able to be changed. I wouldn't expect a game from 2006 to expose hooks for scripting for the AI routines.
@rosaschlupfer635
@rosaschlupfer635 Жыл бұрын
While I can't say how it is done in SupCom I can tell you that custom AI's have been around for a long time. The first to that got really known was the Sorian AI.
@dobrealexandru2303
@dobrealexandru2303 Жыл бұрын
@@rosaschlupfer635 Sorian works quite well on many maps, just tried AI-Swarm on Setons & astrogap-SF, builds one factory and they gives up, looks like it's broken. Maybe I have to manually copy some files?
@NameNotAlreadyTaken2
@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 Жыл бұрын
@@rosaschlupfer635 "custom AI's have been around for a long time" what does that mean?
@dobrealexandru2303
@dobrealexandru2303 Жыл бұрын
@@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 M27AI mod wors like a charm, thanks Gyle for reminding us, swarm still broken
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