Fencers Can Fly: THE MEGA FLUNGE!!!!!

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Slicer Sabre

Slicer Sabre

Жыл бұрын

The flèche the flunge and some innovations from Kim Junho...
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Music: Paul Flint- Savage

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@SlicerSabre
@SlicerSabre Жыл бұрын
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@FencingDatabase
@FencingDatabase Жыл бұрын
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@tomasalitisz6336
@tomasalitisz6336 Жыл бұрын
FIE: You can´t cross legs foward. Sabre: Ok. Flying it is then.
@oskarg5698
@oskarg5698 Жыл бұрын
I swear the Koreans are getting closer and closer to fighting like Jedi. Next they'll start backflipping or just straight up using the force!
@rjevskyfencing777
@rjevskyfencing777 Жыл бұрын
LOL! Backflip will certainly give them a red card, or even black card - since it falls in category of turning your back to opponent during fight, which is serious violation.
@smellyiest
@smellyiest Жыл бұрын
@@rjevskyfencing777 well who says they can't use the force? B)
@femboyfanservice6138
@femboyfanservice6138 6 ай бұрын
@@rjevskyfencing777 you must be fun at parties
@VanessaDMusic
@VanessaDMusic Жыл бұрын
I don’t even fence sabre but your commentary and video editing makes all these videos so fun to watch! Love your channel
@albertbresca8904
@albertbresca8904 Жыл бұрын
yes a sabre fleche...lol... what a funny and appropriate way to call a flunge
@laikam5402
@laikam5402 Жыл бұрын
when i was like 10 or so, i met Daryl Homer at my club bc he and my coach’s son were friends. seeing him just catapult himself at his opponent is awesome to watch and the move is hilariously effective
@KatonRyu
@KatonRyu Жыл бұрын
Every time I see these videos I remember how much I love watching sabre.
@claytontalesfore7564
@claytontalesfore7564 8 ай бұрын
Epee fencers: so uncivilized Saber fencers: front legs go burrr
@esgrimaxativa5175
@esgrimaxativa5175 Жыл бұрын
Great video! There's some footage of old classes in there with fleches I hadn't seen before. I think the forward crossover was last permitted in 94 World champs. By world champs in 95 and 96 Olympic games in Atlanta it was gone already.
@SlicerSabre
@SlicerSabre Жыл бұрын
Thanks! There is a channel called Vívóklub Kárpáti that has lots of lessons from Laszlo Szepesi with various French fencers from the early 90s. The 2 clips in this video feature Jean-Philippe Daurelle and Jean-François Lamour.
@donaldbadowski290
@donaldbadowski290 Жыл бұрын
Scenes from the 1992 Olympics in this vid. I have the VHS tapes somewhere down in the depths of my basement. First time I saw them was maybe 1998, and I didn't start fencing till 1994. If you watch the footwork from that Olympics, you'll be shocked at how poor the footwork is compared to any time after, and these guys were the best in the world. There is no doubt about it, removing the forward crossover and fleche from sabre improved the footwork immensely. Why it was removed. I've heard two stories. First was that it was the last refuge of the old and overweight fencers who were not properly fleching, but simply crossing over and falling to hit. Second was that refs where pushing the fences way back behind the On Guard lines before calling Fence, because if both fencers where going to do this, they had a real tough time determining ROW. As for the Mega Flunge, the guys doing it look as if they are going to tear their tendons, muscles and ligaments to shreds before too long.
@albertbresca8904
@albertbresca8904 Жыл бұрын
i heard it was a desperate attempt by the FIE to slow sabre down so they would get more spectators.... as i was fencing sabre at that time (a LOT) and hated the flunge as i fenced all three weapons and had top remember not to fleche in sabre as i did in foil and epee....
@leftysabreuse3257
@leftysabreuse3257 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago, maybe around 2016ish i recalled seeing a clip of Matyas Szabo appearing to "lunge" by primarily pushing from both his front and back leg. I remember being baffled. Maybe I was just confused by the slow motion especially since i didn't know as much about sabre back then. Or he was doing some sort of mega lunge one time.
@SlicerSabre
@SlicerSabre Жыл бұрын
Are you sure it was Szabo? I also seem to remember Gu doing some sort of levitating lunge from around that time.
@leftysabreuse3257
@leftysabreuse3257 Жыл бұрын
@@SlicerSabre yes I'm sure it is Szabo because I like his fencing a lot. I do remember Sydney Sabre featuring Gu's levitating lunge as well! Super cool!
@claudiafogl941
@claudiafogl941 2 ай бұрын
Very useful for describing the difference between a foil fleche and sabre
@soup0803
@soup0803 Жыл бұрын
Your recent content's really been improving!!
@TheMissingno
@TheMissingno Жыл бұрын
I always assumed "flunge" was a contraction of fleche and lunge
@chrisdotdash5154
@chrisdotdash5154 Жыл бұрын
Really like this style of video!
@aznthief2345
@aznthief2345 Жыл бұрын
love this new content
@Andrew-bs9xk
@Andrew-bs9xk Жыл бұрын
This is lowkey a good video ur underrated man
@hudhausstudios11
@hudhausstudios11 Жыл бұрын
That’s why I do epee lol
@OlympicFoil
@OlympicFoil Жыл бұрын
Mega flunge great name 🔥
@albertbresca8904
@albertbresca8904 Жыл бұрын
yep I am impressed... good description for it....
@flipstheking6464
@flipstheking6464 Жыл бұрын
3:22 the sun on the ground. Early morning fencing 🤗
@aniketjain2610
@aniketjain2610 Жыл бұрын
Fun video as always. I'm liking the increase in videos with your casual voiceover. Only criticism is that the music from 3:00 onwards ... Isn't exactly what I'd have chosen.
@Druid_Ignacy
@Druid_Ignacy Жыл бұрын
I would love to see your comparison between modern sabre and chinese jian / dao forms. There may be more to it than it seems, and youtube may love it.
@Druid_Ignacy
@Druid_Ignacy Жыл бұрын
Aaaan when in the forms they strech out the other - empty - hand, it most probably represents grappling / wrestling. In hema competition / sparring it is allowed and historically suported, and looks very similar to chinese forms - just to give a little litght to some element which you may find very weird, while I don't. I wonder more what would you say about their weird footwork and broken timing in some lunges.
@krszam4112
@krszam4112 Жыл бұрын
the first clip is the perfect explanation to why nowadays it's illegal in sabre to cross legs
@johnrohde5510
@johnrohde5510 Жыл бұрын
In the examples at the start of this video, each of them would have been been given to the defender had the actual rule as written on the fleche been applied. Rule 417.2 (page 59 of the AFA edition of 1981): "A fleche attack is correctly carried out: "- as a simple attack when the arm is straightened as the fleche is carried out and when the hit arrives at the latest before the the rear foot again touches the piste or as it does so. - as a compound attack when, with the arm straightening in the correct forming of the first feint, the hit arrives at the latest as the front foot again makes contact with the piste."
@dogestranding5047
@dogestranding5047 Жыл бұрын
I’ve only ever done foil, but would be cool to do a saber competition sometime.
@Caseyuptobat
@Caseyuptobat 6 ай бұрын
Flying Lunge (True Input)
@johnrohde5510
@johnrohde5510 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the fleche at sabre was referees not enforcing the rule that every cross-step after the first was preparation; in effect, the back foot landing in a fleche being the same as the front foot landing in the lunge. Instead they took a rule knocking around in lower level foil in the USA in the wake of the Smirnoff accident, and banned the fleche.
@random-thingy
@random-thingy 7 ай бұрын
3:01 im surprised that Yoshida Kento didnt roll his ankle
@mironmanescu7248
@mironmanescu7248 Жыл бұрын
So going along with this, I’ve been noticing that in recent tournaments, the Korean hop hasn’t been seen too much. Why do you think this is? Or did I miss something?
@stevep1762
@stevep1762 Жыл бұрын
Got to put a James Williams flunge in if you can find an example. I think the first of these megas should have been annulled for hit made while falling, but it's not really called. Good analysis though, that big kickout is almost like the step phase of the triple jump, sort of hanging in the air and then throwing the front leg.
@jakublipinski3149
@jakublipinski3149 Жыл бұрын
Will you do a video what happening in Warsaw
@SlicerSabre
@SlicerSabre Жыл бұрын
Maybe if I have time. But hopefully the channel "Fencing Brothers" will do it.
@elisavam5622
@elisavam5622 9 ай бұрын
bro the epee fail clip made me cackle
@Duckovile
@Duckovile Жыл бұрын
im pretty sure flunge is fleche and lunge together
@HondoTrailside
@HondoTrailside Жыл бұрын
So what happens if a top saber fencer uses the crossover vs a flunger. Forget what is legal, who wins? The idea was to make fencing less pedantic, but flunging allows them to dive at each other anyway. So did they achieve anything, while they sidelined a real fencing move. Or is the flunge fun to watch, but functions as a restriction over the crossover, so for a non-martial art, it is a win win.
@fencingsports6057
@fencingsports6057 Жыл бұрын
I think Daryl Homer is the best
@wiradech
@wiradech Жыл бұрын
I think the grandfather of the flunge was Kothny creating something new. ......something new to overcome some distance in some swift motion. Just kidding 🤣
@patrickhill6874
@patrickhill6874 5 ай бұрын
My goal is to master flunges until I become the Michael Jordan of fencing, literally wanna fly through the air like a boeing 747
@patchly
@patchly Жыл бұрын
Are you a fencer yourself?
@tnwcmaps
@tnwcmaps Жыл бұрын
Honesty, I think the reason that the fleché isn’t used more often in foil, is because if you screw up, or it gets parryed, you’re kinda fucked😂
@cincinnatea8978
@cincinnatea8978 11 ай бұрын
Let them run at each other - it's more the spirit and nature of the weapon anyway to charge at your opponent. I think you would get better results dropping right-of-way and forcing the fencers to actually respect their opponent's blade. Maybe even parry once in a while.
@emmanarotzky6565
@emmanarotzky6565 8 ай бұрын
Sepeé is a sport i could get behind
@rjevskyfencing777
@rjevskyfencing777 Жыл бұрын
Blah.. this is so silly that they restricted flesche for sabre. Doesn't make any sense. Flunge seems like a nice alternative, although seems like very likely to injure a knee in the process. Oh well, gotta try that in epee, will see if it's any good.
@leaveleague3491
@leaveleague3491 10 ай бұрын
crazy how our country is good at fencing, archery,judo yet suck at taekwondo
@fencer1979
@fencer1979 Жыл бұрын
Why the weird and cringey music… yt videos really make fencing look cringe and bad
@CRAZYIDI0T
@CRAZYIDI0T Жыл бұрын
Can I use the mega flunge in foil?
@ryanfecarotta6726
@ryanfecarotta6726 Жыл бұрын
You can do anything if you believe in yourself
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