UPDATES ON VIDEO INFORMATION: Since this video is gaining some traction and I've read through comments, I want to make a few updates/clarifications. 1. I agree that the scene at 4:43 is referring to Cloud killing Sephiroth at Nibelheim instead of at the end of OG FF7. 2. I refer to the upcoming 3rd game as Reunion, but I didn't specify that it's a personal placeholder name. It felt weird writing the third game over and over in the script and Reunion is what I think the third game will be called despite the Crisis Core naming. 3. I'm starting to like the idea that Sephiroth wants complete control over Cloud's person instead of outright removing him from the Lifestream. Fate worse than death and all that.

I've watched probably a dozen+ theory videos of what happened, and thus far, yours has been the most straightforward and concise. Nicely done!

Aerith has had the same server-hopping powers since jump. She's a Cetra: they don't have to return to the life stream like humans do. She's been playing 4d chess this entire time, via the life stream. Same as Sephiroth has.

Marlenes laughing comment to Zack about him not being there was a stab in the heart for real, man. The guy took thar knife like a champ though and even when he got to see Cloud he was just happy to see him standing, clearly bearing no ill will towards Cloud (or Aerith for that matter). And even proudly proclaiming how much he liked the confidence this Cloud had.

Yours is the first theory I can get behind that I feel makes sense and/or is plausible

Sephiroth could have been talking about when cloud killed him originally at the Nibelheim reactor

As much as these games are about a battle for the planet, I also think it's about a battle for Cloud's broken head. In a way, one of the incoming plot twists is Cloud having to go "I'm NOT Tyler Durden". He already does this at the temple: "I'm not like him!" I think the multiverse is Cloud's mental illness. Cloud invents a new world or travels between them? Rainbows. Like when that bullet got deflected and Zack lived, like when Aerith wakes up after she's killed. Cloud supresses something he can't handle or is mindhacked by Sephiroth? Green glitchy effect. He sleeps? Can temporarily peer inside one of his many Stamp universes. He needs to focus and not be distracted by his head at Junon? Sees 2 different Stamps. Real one eyes open. Fake one eyes closed saying temporarily closed. How OG FF7 ends in a battle inside Cloud's subconscious, here it's all 3 games. Trust me we'll get there. OG FF7's Cloud subconscious, Tifa fixes him scene: A void, with many worlds in the background, and a rift in the sky (because his entire illness is about to go away, not just one little world in it). A normal healthy person only has 1 inner world made of memories. They all die when meteor strikes? Sephiroth/Jenova merges all that energy at the crater. The reunion of "worlds". Where Jenova has reassembled. Sephiroth's body broken. Stuck north. Spirit finds his way to Cloud's head, a perfect new body and the perfect puppet. Tyler Durden is now trying to control our narrator from within, trying to take the whole being over. Jup. Cloud is becoming Sephiroth. Fight Club style. Sephiroth's spirit lives in Cloud's head, trying to gain control over this broken person. Trying to kill each Aerith in each of his fragmented worlds in search for the TRUE white materia power... I'll get to it why Cloud has the materia memory of Holy in a second. Aerith is an ancient connected to the lifestream. Who can contact or visit other people's worlds. Who is connected to the whispers, so she knows about destined events, appearing as foresight. Can sometimes visit peoples heads. Transfer memories between people's hidden worlds. Visiting Cloud's dream when she's trapped at the Shinra building, or uses Marlene as a postal service to warn Cloud about his own illness. Why does Sephiroth kill each Aerith in Cloud's shattered multiverse? Because at that point, Cloud holds both the black and the white materia memories in his subconscious. Let's trace the white and black materia ORBS and the MEMORIES it contains. At the start of remake, Jenova and Sephiroth don't know where the black materia is. But Cloud meets Aerith. So Sephiroth meets Aerith. So Sephiroth knows where the white materia is. Which is how he can get the black one. Grey whispers maintain one destiny. Keep the black and white materia powers in 1 realm together. Sephiroth outsmarts them. At the end of the highway, he gets Aerith to enter the realm where Sephiroth lives: Cloud's subconscious. She brings the white materia memory. The whispers keep the balance and bring the black memory. Sephiroth absorbs it, Holy appears behind him. Sephiroth now holds the black memory power in between Cloud's worlds. Does not have the black ORB yet. The "date world" is the one that got blasted by a giant white light at the end of Remake, and is where Zack first "lived". Where the white memory is stored. Sephiroth better get his hands on that so noone can use it when he eventually sends back the black memory to the real black orb. Goes on an Aerith hunt to find it. They all wake up at the highway. Final battle in Cloud's subconscious is over. Now the temple is presumed empty, and Aerith's orb is empty too. Cloud and Aerith go BOTH unconscious at the temple of the ancients, where now the black empty orb has manifested. We do have to assume Cloud got his hands on it in this state. Aerith visits Cloud's subconscious. In one of his "worlds". In his "date" world, where he kept the memory of Holy, he receives the white memory. Sephiroth came in too late, but he got close. When Cloud enters the "forest" world in his head, Sephiroth is pissed off when he notices the white memory held by Cloud. Cloud then gives it to the real Aerith in the "forest world" in his head. She wakes up. Cloud wakes up later. Now in the real world we have an empty black orb in Cloud's pocket. A full white one in Aerith's ribbon. Jenova does NOT want a world with only the white one, sends Sephiroth (black memory pending) to keep the party from reaching Aerith, Cloud makes it through, but Jenova kills Aerith. White one lost forever. Final fight, back to Cloud's subconscious where Sephiroth tries to finish the job, after Jenova got defeated. Aerith's spirit on her way to the lifestream takes a few moments to help her boyfriends. Zack gets a Flower Force Field, and Cloud gets a 2v1 battle against Sephiroth. She dissolves into the lifestream. They all wake up at the altar. Final battle in Cloud's subconscious is over. Cloud starts seeing "creepy Aerith" by the water. Later in a field, Cloud looks at the clear orb he has. Puts it back in his pocket. Pulls something out. Red glint in his eyes, BLACK FULL MATERIA. As if Sephiroth, from inside his head, just transfered the black memory back into the orb. Cloud then talks to "Aerith". The FINAL-FINAL conversation. Her "final" appearance. Red glint in her eyes. Making sure he goes north. When tracing the materias, and when assuming Cloud is the "carrier" subconscious, it appears the materias are FULLY traceable. I think Sephiroth needs a full new body. Jenova heads north where all the "worlds" will unite (when everybody dies). He's attempting a final checkmate by gaining full control over his new body (Cloud), and instead of letting Jenova have the power of all "worlds" (all minds) - He wants it for himself. Jenova will fail since the meteor will be stopped. "I will not end - nor will I have you end" = I will claim that power instead of being a casualty of it - and I need my new puppet body too. One more final battle. Cloud v Sephiroth.... Inside Cloud's subconscious.

At @4:43 when Cloud said he killed him before, I think he was referring to Nibelheim. That is why he gasped and stopped because he was trying to surpress that memory.

I love your idea of stamp being like the mandela effect

Out of all the explanations I've seen for the game, this is best I've seen. I don't think you've necessarily got it right on every point (e.g. I think Aerith was world hopping before that scene), but it's certainly the closest I've seen to anyone making sense of it. Makes me even feel the story could end up being good after all. Great job!

This is probably one of the best theories I've heard so far. Great vid.

I agree with everything you said, but there’s one thing I will say that I think you missed, where Areith was in bed next to cloud in the wheelchair, her body is still there, I believe, if you remember what Marlene said, (she will die if she wakes up) I don’t know, but this is just a theory. She may be alive where Zach is; and Sephiroth doesn’t know yet, but when the worlds come together, and I believe this will happen at the northern cave. But when the worlds merge, Zach and Areith will come back, but they will be in Midgar at the time along with Biggs. That’s what I see happening. But the empty materia, I have a feeling that as cloud holds on to it it’s going to build memories, and when Tifa saves cloud and brings back memories, it will gain all that memory, and become white materia again. Areith said that the memory she made with that white materia were very important. Cause clouds memories are just as important as Areiths, that’s what I theorize with everything that has happened at the end of rebirth and what might happen. Would like to hear your thoughts.

Well done- agree with the majority of this . I have thought it’s not a multiverse for some time - we just need more about the mechanisms to make it all click. But this kind of theory is much more logical than all the timeline stuff

Glad you made this a confirmation. Another piece of the puzzle as well is during advent children. Sephiroth wanted to use his three shades to poison the very planet but failed, only furthering his hatred, if one listens to the first fight with sephiroth in remake the song has small tidbits of not a memory in it while fighting the early stage’s of the group. If reunion is the title, it will likely give closures that the og couldn’t explore, zack and aerith could in fact regain their lives, the planet could be restored to some capacity and events after seven like advent children or dirge of Cerberus could be titles of their own but as a different part of history

It's funny to me how so many guys don't understand that Sephiroth has told us exactly what his plans are for Cloud. Join me, lend me your strength, together etc etc etc he showed a vision of them back to back on purpose. He doesn't want to kill Cloud, he wants him by his side in his end goal.

Really good theory video, I share many of the thoughts you have, while I have some others that would be tough to convey in the comments section. Some elements I’d like to add to the conversation: - White Whispers. They’re usually shown as the ‘good whispers’ that follow the Weapons fighting Sephiroth’s black whispers, and they also appear when Aerith’s influence is healing or helping the squad in the final chapter. However, when we are advancing through the Forgotten Capital, it is 3 white whispers that attack the squad before we reach the door where only Cloud goes through. Why did the white whispers attack the party at that moment? It’s usually the black whispers that attack us in this game (though in the previous game the black whispers sometimes “help” the squad by protecting the timeline, they only attack us at the very end, when Sephiroth commands them) - Wedge. Why did the whispers take so long to ‘correct’ the timeline by killing him, when in other moments they act as soon as the timelines are about to change? He was surround ed by whispers when we assumed he died, then we find him in the underground lab, he stays at Elmyra’s house, recovers a bit, helps us in the Shinra building, only to die soon after by being thrown outside the window. - Aerith’s clear materia. Will it be relevant to the plot of the third game or just a memento? - Black Materia. One new aspect that I haven’t seen anyone mention is that when Sephiroth is flying through the “multiverse” with Cloud, he mentions the Black Materia is ‘the key which grants access to the true counterpart hidden between worlds’. It could possibly mean that the world we’re experiencing in the Remake is not the main one. And that there’s a Meteor, which hits A world, and a true Meteor, whichs hits ALL worlds. This is by far the most interesting part for me that I’d like to see people talk about.

Seen a lot of videos, yours is by far the best in the description and the best theory overall.

A small contribution I wanna add about Aerith in the final scene. I think she is just a spirit of our Aerith. Aerith as a child could sense dead souls that haven’t moved on to to the lifestream, major point for this is elmyras husband, she could talk with him and even deliver his final words to elmyras before shinra could even send word to her that he died in combat, I see no reason this can’t just be a spirit. Also a random note, the Aerith by the pool I also think is this spirit and I wanna note that this game has relied on facial expressions a lot and I think we see Aerith be surprised by cloud noticing her before she switches to try and play it cool I guess haha.

i have to admit you make some great points and def went and angle i never thought of and you back it all up with pretty sound evidence. Very interesting take! only thing id say is i dont think part 3 will be called reunion because of Crisis Core Reunion, but it makes sense and should be called that lol.

The Last part I kind of disagree with because Sephiroth treats Cloud with a strange respect a Demented comradery. He's finally met his match so instead of taking him out uses control or persuasive tactics.

Not 30 seconds in, and you admitted it's a sequel. IT'S ABOUT TIME. Then you recognized it's NOT a multiverse. My bet is that the "multiverse" is Jenova's power of illusion. In Rebirth's ending, it seems like the "multiple worlds" exist in the same space, but that everyone's perceptions have been clouded. So just like Seph body-snatches the robed men to speak to Cloud, and only Cloud perceives it, Aerith controlled her parallel illusory body to open her eyes to Cloud. Cloud and Zack J-cells allow them to see through the illusion. And no dude, Aerith didn't "die and gain server-hopping powers." Cloud blocked Sephiroth, and Tifa gets static seeing both possible results, because one is a "parallel" world or illusion. Seph forced the party into a parallel world, using the illusion of Aerith's murder as a singularity to open the World Between Worlds where the true black materia is. That's why Seph says Aerith's role is over. Seph even admits his illusion is crap when Cloud says his BS won't work on him anymore. Red almost perceives Aerith. But Cloud sees her and isn't hurt, just as Cissnei doesn't feel like Zack is gone. She's alive and plans to use Holy, the whole point of passing Cloud the football. She doesn't need a vessel to be seen by the party -- they can't even see the crack in the sky, because they're trapped in Jenova's illusion. Now, this prophet of Doom intends to have words with you. BEHOLD. Rabbit portraits...with DAISIES in Kalm and Under Junon. BEHOLD. Aerith tells Corneo "rip em off" holding her hands the same way as RIP AND TEAR. BEHOLD. The RED RUNES in the black materia chamber, a materia Cloud puts in his GIANT SWORD. RED RUNES + GIANT SWORD = CRUCIBLE. Know all you unbelievers that Doomguy has saved Aerith, as promised.

This is brilliant, Thank you for your hard work. I always wondered why the life steam poisoned people with Mako poisoning. If the livestream is indeed made of memories and creates sort of a maya-illusion state for the people in it, then people from their lives appearing in it makes sense. Also explains why it would garble up the poised persons memories.

Zack did not get teleported, each Zack made a different decision of where to go, and died as a result in some of those. Otherwise, he would have clearly been as confused as the Zack who fought alongside Cloud and got sent back and forth to different places and clearly stated not understanding what happened. Think about it, why would he suddenly be on reactor 6 and not even bat an eye? He told Biggs he chose to go there because he was worried about him, not because he was suddenly teleported, which Biggs would have understood

Bro you smashed this. thank you.

4:53 No sure of that, maybe it is referencing of when Cloud threw Sephiroth into the soup in Mt Nibel Reactor About a vessel for Aerith, you have one, the Aerith in Coma. What means, you also have a vessel for Cloud, what could mean he is dying as well… and I think that would make most people say: WTF!!!!

Great analysis, thank you!

Best video on this topic. Great work!

amazing theory video! you nailed it!

I don't think it is correct to assume this is a sequel. Instead I think you should think of the Lifestream as functionally the exact same as The Force from Star Wars in that premonitions of the future is not the same as time travel to the past

Thanks for this! Very interesting theorizing.

Final Fantasy VII: The Reunion or Resurgence could be the two odds on favourite for the name of the game.

About Cloud being the only one able to see and communicate with Aerith, I think it’s because he has become someone similar to Desmond in Lost. He was caught in the middle of a brutal timeline split when he clashed with Sephiroth trying to save Aerith. The timelines were split with such power that he, despite still existing in the one were Aerith dies, has the memories of him in the timeline were she lives. So having those memories allows him to “exist” in both timelines at the same time. That’s also why only he can see the tear in the sky, because the timeline where Aerith lives is the one that is collapsing because she was “supposed” to die in order to become more powerful. So that timeline is collapsing, but the one where Aerith dies is still stable because they still have a chance to stop Sephiroth. So all in all I think Cloud has become kind of like a combination of both of his variants. He never truly mourns Aerith because, in his memories, even if she died, she’s still alive to him. He was able to save her, even if it wasn’t in his own timeline.

Excellent video bro

I think there’s some truth to this video. What’s important are the three types of Whispers or fate. Gray is 90s FF7. Sephiroth interference in remake completely distorted everything 90s related. Include moving the Temple of the Ancient to the north instead of 90s south. Perhaps Zack and Biggs returned to the aftermath of the 90s universe, which can explain the heavily damaged Midgar. The grays influence isn’t the same as remake. Maybe, the white Whispers are 90s Aeris and the planet, since it happened before. Since Sephiroth needs to get rid of all Aeris/Aerith, perhaps Aeris goal is to prevent Sephiroth from going to Nibelheim or have the Shinra Mansion destroyed at best or books destroyed. While, vengeful Sephiroth hunt down the good version of himself and Aeris from teaming up. To do this, Zack can go to Nibelheim before the citizens call for help to exterminate the monsters problems. This would prevent the Zack on this timeline from dying of gunfire after escaping Hojo’s experiment. And Cloud would never see his hometown destroyed. Heck, if Zack is far enough back in time. He may be able to kill Hojo to prevent Sephiroth’s fetus from being experimented on. Possibly, ending the SOLDIERS program. Vincent becomes stepfather to Sephiroth. I could be wrong on this part. Maybe when a bunch of whispers gathers it impacts multiple universes, since the 90s influences are very weak in rebirth and the white are taking it’s place to keep things on track and make counter adjustments to Sephiroth’s influences.

what comes to my mind was the material (real) world and many spiritual worlds created in the life stream.

I disagree that Aerith gained the power to hop worlds from the moment Cloud saved her from Sephiroth dawnward skewer. If you read lifestream white/black novel, you will see that OG Aerith's conciousness did not disperse in the lifestream as it should, because she saw that Sephiroth did not either. The whole remake/rebirth/??? trilogy is about OG Aerith vs OG Sephiroth after the events from Advent Children. It's just that Aerith is way more respectful of the events, and wants to conserve the flow of destiny much as possible (except for the fact that she is conflicted in wanting to have a normal life too), whereas Sephiroth wants to downright change it to accomodate his Godhood. IMHO The Aerith we see together with Cloud vs Sephiroth in the last last battle is OG Aerith, coming from the Lifestream into the "Edge of Creation", which seems to be a part of the lifestream where the OG Sephiroth resides after his demise and NOT dispersing.

very good man, very good theory

i think you are on to something with all of this!!

Interesting thoughts! Definitely got the gears in my brain turning. I will say, something that i disagree with is your last point, where you say sephiroth wants to destroy both cloud’s body and soul and erase him. The reason being that Cloud’s memories and hatred towards Sephiroth are essentially what are helping to keep him alive. If cloud dies, sephiroth fades away. And i don’t think sephy would be content with that. however, you did say that sephiroth needed a vessel, and he can only use the black robes for so long… maybe he has his sights set on cloud for this purpose.

Wow! Great video

If they can tie it up in an intelligent and sensible way (within fantasy) then im on board. I despise multiverse. I get invested in a world for 27 years for it to just be nothing. Lol. I definitely do not understand the ending. I dont really need to until part 3.

Good ass theory. To add onto it, Angeal has to be the one looking out for Zack. I think he and Genesis will be back in some form in Reunion.

Nice theory. Man when that scene with marlene telling zack aerith likes cloud happened, it hit me sharp in the heart. Zack’s facial language hit heavy. Despite him being confused he takes it like a champ and doesn’t question it, at least not yet. I don’t know if he will later on.

Sooo its exactly what i predicted! It's a simulation! If you do parallels with the matrix. Its scary! Like saphiroth being smith, and the one being aerith! And the promise land being the Source!

With the point you brought up about Barret later in the video, I wonder if in part 3 they’re gonna do some crazy fake out deaths, cause I remember that Nomura once talked about how someone else important in the making of FF7 wanted to kill off everyone except the party you chose to take back to Midgar towards the end of the game. So maybe they’ll use that original idea, but bring them back as a way to demonstrate exactly what you were describing happened to Barret. Guess we’ll see in Final Fantasy 7 Reunion (if part 3 is not called that then they dropped the ball hard af)

Very weird that,explaining what's Sephiroth's goal,you've been showing the sequence with the Weapon and Tifa inside...infact this one is a very particular scene,that few ppl have understood.This Sephiroth,here is not trying to kill Tifa,as many think,nor is trying to kill the weapon...instead,he just cuts the skin of the weapon helping it to be free from the bkack whispers that were attacking and engulfing it...and notice how the white whispers let him do it whitout attack him...Try to guess why😉

bro ive been in grief watching these theories yours is easily the best you should get on the seal team 7. I dont like how the fanbase is saying their moment was taken away from them when this is a brand new story and sequel. That was the past and theyre getting us ready for something else. I have a question though, are we entirely sure of how this saga even started to begin with? i still dont know what triggered these events.

I don't think Elmyra and Marlene are memories. After all, did Zack and Biggs really know Kyrie that well? Or Red XIII?

Only thing I would point out is that Aerith had the server hopping power since the beginning of Remake. I don't think Cloud caused this in Rebirth. What Cloud did cause in rebirth is for HIM to be able to server hop. Aerith was clearly shown displaying these powers before they broke destiny at the end of Remake, she did temporarily lose this power (the Aerith we follow in the Remake series, not OG Aerith), but she got it back/ re-awakened when she fell into the lifestream with Cloud (i.e. OG Aerith was able to reconnect to her).

Final Fantasy Reunion is the name of the Crisis Core remake. So it can't be used to name part 3.

Honestly, when Cloud talks about having killed him, he isn't referring to the final battle of the OG ff7. Rather, he is talking about the nebilheim incident, in which after being stabbed, he somehow managed to turn the tide and dump sephiroth into the livestream. That's what I believe he's referring to. I say this because it would imply cloud knowing about the events of OG ff7, and that in it of itself wouldn't make sense. I mean, if cloud was pervy of all things like sephiroth, then perhaps he too ill have an upper hand and even change to reflect that. Now, this doesn't mean sephiroth however, can't know. The game, despite its convoluted storytelling, alludes to this being the case. When it came to the end, I felt this game cut some corners for sure. I remembered the OG ff7, how you had to dig up for a special item in order to get through the forest in the forgotten capital. And even after that final scene, you had to travel through the forgotten capital and into some dungeons, climb mountains, etc. All that stuff tied in and felt seamless, now we get the tiny bronco to skip all that and straight into God knows what. At this point, I'm just hopeful they do Cid justice, I didn't like how soft he's portrayed in this game. Just feels off. Also, do the weapons and those encounters justice.

You got this right

Great video, one thing I do not understand though: In remake how did Cloud knows about killing Sephiroth in the end of OG ? I always assumed he just had a flashback to the Nibelheim reactor scene where he "kills" the real Sephiroth. I also assumed Sephiroth has knowledge of future events from FFVII AC, and somehow his memory travelled back into his vessel from the current time in the remake trilogy.

Thank you finally someone with a brain lol. Instead of hurr durr nomura sucks and ruined everything with a multiverse. Lol for 1, not Nomura and 2 so much this video haha. Great video man!

exactly. its basically the life stream. no multiverse and no. he doesnt refer to the OG. he is clearly referring to the nibelheim reactor

You know what will be cool. If they redesign safer sephiroth and corrupt the weapons or fuse with them to become a beast or dragon like design that resemble the description of the beast of revelations or fuse with the remains of genesis, angel and jenova to become a seraphim as the final boss.

2:44 I think the 'world's are.......potential? Basically the planet would, like naturally, create 'worlds' ad infinitum BUT it had fate/destiny to kind of reign it in. Kind of like the 'sacred timeline' and fate/destiny being the TSA in Loki. only instead of creating 'universes' it's different versions of the same planet. BUT Sephiorth gets the party to kill the Arbiter of Fate in Remake, essentially the "killing of He Who Remains" that happened at the end of Loki season 1. Now without fate/destiny all the potential worlds are splintering off. Not only that but I think without fate, the whispers are...........out of a job? As a result Sephiorth and the Planet are like fighting over the remaining ones and using them to enact the 'fate/destiny' that each want. Hence why they are still around even though fate no longer exists and why there are now Black and White ones when they were all 'grey' before.

Can you explain why you think that Cloud is referring to the original game? I don't understand. 4:45. Cloud thought he killed Sephiroth in Nibelheim 5 years ago just like the other people who actually supported this view, if thats the correct way to say it.

I will not end, nor will I have you end

I was gonna say If Aerith can server hop why can’t anyone see her. Even Cait Sith can see Sephiroth, but I think your theory covers that.

Whut, I missed the bullet going for Zack being deflected by rainbow colors during the 146 hours of playing rebirth... 🤭

I think the reason Cloud can still see Aerith's spirit has something to do with him carrying the empty white materia

I don't think Sephiroth wants to annihilate Cloud from the lifestream, because Sephiroth clearly stated in Remke that not only would he not end, but that he would also not let Cloud end. Something tells me that wathever powerfull hatred Sephiroth initially felt for Cloud, it evolved into something else, something more twisted and possessive. And if Sephiroth is still looking for revenge nonetheless, I beleive that for Cloud, losing everything and everyone he moves while being forced to keep existing with the guys he hates the most for company would be a pute hell for Cloud, definitly something Seph would love inflicting to him

Respectfully, a multiverse but "stuck" to a single planet is still a multiverse. We got the same characters across different "Worlds" (Kyrie, for example), we got characters leaving a World and waking up in another (Biggs). Sure, it may get "solved" by saying it was all a dream in the lifestream, or Sephiroth just merged everything now, but it's still a multiverse story, just with a cop-out on the end.

I do like you idea of memories. The glitching could be happening during Aerith's death because of a couple of reasons: 1) Fate was being altered by Sephiroth or 2) because the world could be adjusting to the lifestream obtaining Aerith's new memories. I also like the idea of "vessels" it makes total sense and shows how people were able to perceive Sephiroth both in Remake and Rebirth as opposed to just happening "in Cloud's head." I especially like it as it allows for Zack and Aerith to potentially be able to come back. The use of vessels to restore life (ESPECIALLY through memories) is something that Nomura is no stranger to as this was a MAJOR plot point in Kingdom Hearts 3. I could see him using this idea in this trilogy as well. Great video!!

But Meteor has to happen. FF7 Ragnarok. They're gonna find a way to trap Sepiroth prime in a dying timeline. Along with the Gi's help. So they all die in that timeline, no planet, no lifestream to come back from. Might even use both black and white materia, combined to summon Ultima instead of holy and meteor. FF7: Reunion,Remake,Rebirth, then Ragnarok, it will also make sense of the Norse mythology references. So Everything's done but the party forgot the Seph inside Cloud, because Cloud and the other Soldier's are basically Seph Horcruxes. That's where the clear materia comes in, somehow it will seperate Cloud from the Seph. Like the clear materia is the resurrection stone. And there ill be a reveal that the reason Seph can't beat Cloud is the Buster sword, which actually has cetran ingredients forged into it, same ingredients used to seal Jenova by the ancients. Basically the elder wand.

Reunion has already been used for crisis core

I think we’re all past remake’s shock and aware that ff7 linear timeline had already been explored. What I perceive the re series are accomplishing is giving us a lifestream’s POV of how fundamentally things on Gaia work: which is a cyclical (not linear) concept of a lifestream (lifestream equals time and all native existence, at ONCE). Since we’re dealing with metaphysical questions from a POV of us, humans (who struggle with the concept of time and existence since the dawn of time), we kinda know what we can expect this cyclical exploration to consist of. BUT WE CAN ALL AGREE, without anything plotwise, that ZACK IS COOL. Gotta love that skkddll 🤣🤣.

No way in hell would Sephiroth's ultimate goal be to kill Cloud. Cloud's his favorite toy.

Brother, are you a Square Enix employee?!😂 This is otherwise the finest Rebirth Analysis I’ve seen.

love this theory!

I disagree I think Sephiroth wanted cloud to deflect his blade cause he knew another world would be created from cloud altering fate As seen by the rainbow light I believe Aerith tried to use the white whispers to undo what Sephiroth has done And you can't rule out whatever world Cloud and Aerith are in a coma in cause it's different than the date world they went on

This is like ffxiv rejoining kinda

Excellent theory!

Stamp is a Mandela effect

I think Tifa may be a key player in all this. She was a bit off in this one.

There is a few things with this theory that need to be cleared up. Just gonna point out a few, 1st, the game won't be called reunion as that's what they called the crisis core remake. Sephiroth literally can't return to the lifestream because he's half jenova essentially, the lifestream rejects him to the northern crater he never "returns" to the lifestream, however in the OG sephiroth said he traveled to the past through the lifestream, however he did not become one with it as anyone else does when they die. Sephiroth exists because of clouds memory of him, without cloud there is no sephiroth, sephiroth has no intention to kill cloud he can not exist otherwise. There is a lot of context you can gain from playing the OG and reading the novel passages, especially lifestream black lifestream white. It tells that the trilogy is really just about Aerith and Sephiroth.

I just think the producers made it confusing on purpose so they have more time to decide how to end it and if they want to bring Zack and Aerith back to life for good and give the happy ending they were set on.

ff7: relapse

They already have Reunion made. It's the Cris Core Remaster. They arent going to give the third game that title as well. Much as I would like to contemplate that being the case, it just ain't gonna happen. Come up with a better "Re" word for the title and maybe I'll watch past 27 seconds.

Your 100% wrong...

Marlene: "Yeah, she likes him." Aerith: "The thing is, I like you, Cloud." That's liking/crushing, not unconditional love. There's an entire world in between those two things. You can't love someone unconditionally if you don't know them. She JUST started looking at him and not her fantasy of Zack around the time of the second GS date, so I honestyly doubt UNCONDINIONAL love can be born from that.

Makes me think part 3 will stray from the re- prefix and be something like homecoming. If not then return. Zack, Aerith, and Sephiroth coming back to the primary world

Afte hear this .... Man 7 feel complicate for complicate sake ....how you go so out the way make what was a simpler story to this? Are we sure FF is not for Fan Fic? 7 THE RPG that put SE on the map....to actulu make this. We replace the theme of Lost to everyone good lives happily even the hot bad guys we redeem. Wow ....this trilogy feel a condraditions in all direction direct by hack writers who take the surface level of multiverse, even with multiverse , we care for 1 version of them,even be dead or not.

But Zack is supposed to die

The gi cannot be a part of the lifestream because they're from a different planet

Definitely well thought out!!!!