Ooooff

They had a potato for a PC because I got a crispy 60 fps even back then.

@@namenotfound8747 This game in 2010 was about as optimized as early access Cyberpunk 2077 on the PS4. I don't think anyone got 60fps on it unless you were running a bleeding edge $6k+ build.

@@namenotfound8747 either you're lying and too young to have even played this goddamn version or you expect 3000$ PCs to be the norm. A potato, let alone a fucking 2011 potato, could barely even hope to LAUNCH the game, let alone run at 20fps. Now I'll make this clear; i wasnt there. However, the basic human concept of common sense, combined with even a base level knowledge of how computers function, combined with the understanding that every single video recorded of the game and every single post ever made about it can't *possibly* be lying, and i can quite confidently say you're the one bullshitting, not me

Thancred = dandelion confirmed?

I'd be mildly insulted that he hadn't tried to woe me. N-not that I'd say yes but it's the principle of the matter, right?

@@mark0183 thancred can actually fight. dandelion can't

@@KingNefiiria He can't try to seduce you because you aren't actually there. The whole twist is that these various opening sequences are actually echo visions.

So thats where the Cinamatics come from... allways feels like little treasures finding these old videos cutscenes 😊

I literally came back to watch this scene because of Thancred's comment. I was like Wait I've seen that before... And then it all fit together.

Not only that but those "fireworks" connect the story all the way to shadowbringers, which is amazing.

@@Raansu See at 1:23. A vision/memory of the end days.

what? So Thancred is a lot older than her apparently.

@@BlindGardener How old Thancred is? How old everybody is then? I know that F'lhaminn is 37 in 2.0 and beyond and Papalymo is apparently 42 in 2.0. But what about everyone else? Aside of Ascians, of course.

Wow cool

Yep

Now I have to get all my crafting quests done. :D

Except for that one time in heavensward when he actually looked his age 😅

And he's still a major flirt

My head canon is that being transported to the first/norvrandt and living there just stopped him from aging for some weird aether related reason.

Japanese culture always tends to make their main characters exceptionally young.

And he's hitting on a(n at the time) 37 year old woman.

I mean, somethin' pretty awful happens to that nice little girl's dad *in* the video.

@@Blazieth don’t worry, I’m sure she’ll someday learn to go with the flow.

OOF

Yeah. The day that changed Minfilia forever and one of our 1st Echo experiences.

I had no idea Answers was even from 1.0.

@@Kango234 Not many people do anymore. Answers played when 1.0 got wiped clean by Bahamut

Good ol PTSD from when a dragon’s prison hatched

The best part was, no one got to hear the full song until the server shutdown. It was just there, ominously, especially towards the end where it was present in every single zone... and no one could have possibly understood how incredible of a moment it was going to be.

being that guy at a party, the word adventurer implies they have the experience of fighting and taking on opponents firsthand, the people on the streets of ul’dah are mostly merchants and civilians

@@StateOfTheMind11225 Yeah. It's like the difference between a military contractor or even just a student at a police academy and an average civilian if they're in a mall/store and a mass shooting starts. Adventurers, even fairly green ones, have at least some experience with combat and likely always have a weapon on them. They can at least keep their cool long enough to analyze the situation and formulate at least some kind of attack. While some fail at this, obviously, few people that freeze up make it long as adventurers, and even most fledgling adventurers don't. Most civilians would be DoL or even worse, DoH. DoH gear has no real stats on it (DoL gear at least has some vitality so you have a decent health pool by comparison), and neither have any base attack or cross-class attacks (excepting DoL in Diadem having their magic bazooka) outside of just autoattacking with their weapons, which (especially DoH) do minuscule damage. Compare a level 90 DoH's stats with a level 10 CNJ (the least combaty/weakest combat class in the game at that level) and it already makes a lot of sense why the latter can have a chance against a Gobbule while the former run for their lives. And most NPC DoH's wouldn't even be considered that high level.

Yeah... It would've been nice though. They're improving on the graphics now though. I also saw a video where even the animations were different.

I wish they'd just go back. This is a very cutscene heavy game and you should put effort into making it look better than characters doing the same 12 stock player emotes over and over. The devs doing cutscenes are not the same devs making the gameplay. The art stuff is usually done first because it takes the least amount of effort and time. And don't give me shit about pcs not being able to handle in engine active cutscenes. Dragon Age Origin came out earlier and did just fine. Animations have nothing to do with the engine it's all about how much effort you put in making them, the engine is just what does the lighting and renders the textures and models. Resusing stock player emotes is just lazy.

@@Stiksta fair enough but as someone with an old computer that isn’t made for gaming im happy enough with the weird stiff cutscenes if it means my computer won’t shit itself and die whenever i try and play

​@@Stiksta and they got even lazier with Dawntrail. It is quite pathetic and insulting to the players.

The launch game had a pitiful amount of cutscenes as a result of the effort it took, so you're certainly not wrong. It got helped out a lot with patches post-launch up to 1.23b I'm pretty sure, but it was REALLY bad at launch.

I got chills

@@markoosh yeah cause we only get to know it like 8 years or so later in Shadowbringers

Makes it hard to tell if they planned it from the start or something they considered later

@@itsaredvine They had 2 completely separate teams of developers between 1.0 and 2.0. The beginning vision is a foreshadowing of the moon dalamud falling. Still, that doesnt take away from the utter genius of the 2.0 devs to take what they had from 1.0 and incorporate it into their overarching narrative.

@@Saxonsredux Dalamud falling was never planned, they did it as an excuse to restart the game

engine was i get what they were aiming for. they wanted a more "realistic" feel on how characters move and react including facial expressions. in a way it worked but all this was from a brand new engine enix allowed that wasnt tested much prior or used for smaller games. instead was rushed to be used on this, ff13 and others that the ymade in that time.

Super hugelly money resource expensive, and one of the reasons why the devs couldnt made a proper good MMORPG in the 1.0 version. In 2.0 they decided to make a good game instead of a good cutscene game which you will see only once, and then play for hundreds hours in a shit game.

These cutscenes remind me of the ff9 FMVs lol

If u have to give 1.0 credit for something, it was that it was ambitious, and ironically that was a big part of the problem. There were some really cool ideas but they bit off WAY more than they could chew. If they were more coordinated, had a engine w/ less issues had a lot more time to develop it, who knows what it might have become. I do hope they update the animations at some point- especially w/ the graphics update it's occurred to me that it will look a bit uncanny for these realistic character models to still move like robots lol

​@@hicarodestruiYeah but enough about modern MSQs

They should put them in ARR to unlock

It would have been nice to see what happened in general in FFXIV 1.0 in -game but I understand the current developers of FFXIV wish to bury FFXIV 1.0 forever

Honestly no shit

Obviously it’s much better, but I’d rather them spend their budget on more and better content rather than fancy-looking animations for a cutscene you’ll watch once.

@@seriphan399 why am I here watching it over and over? Lmao

@@sumguy8180 Seriously, I never played 1.0 but I've watched this cutscene 3 times.

Plotwise there is a reason but kinda wished they recreated parts of it. Like how endwalker starts with more or less recreation of the limsa 1.0 opening

Honestly I'm impressed with how much more natural some animations look in 1.0 compared to everything else. Alot smoother talking/moving anims in some places it feels pretty clean. Not to say everything else is bad, but it feels more lively.

And just think, there's a lot of story that you can't replay at the inn.

they were motion captured, it was actually a fairly large strain on them to do it that way .

Them doing it this way is what made it fail to begin with

You must really love your Power Point presentations

but do it in 60 fps

Funny because this style and quality was what made 1.0 fail

No. If there was one thing 1.0 had over everything that came after, if was the graphics, animations, and cutscenes.

@@REO_Speedweed unfortunately everything else like e.g. the battle system, sucked hard

They look amazing, and you need a computer from 20 years in the future to run them well. There's a reason 1.0 failed hard.....

Absolutely not. The MoCap scenes in FFXIV 1.0 were phenomenal. I saw random cutscenes one day an immediately noticed it. Got, I hope they go back to that. Little things like that actually matter.

@@BullsMahunny The main problem with these is how expensive they are, sadly. Going all in on these cutscenes was a major drag on the rest of the game, and it showed, because even by the end of 1.0 the cutscene quality was starting to flag as they shifted resources to all the other problems with the game. Losing this level of quality animation and cinematography is a gigantic shame, but the 2.0 team decided to focus the money in other areas, and I can't say it was the wrong choice.

To be fair, it was a huge strain on the development as a whole to mocap like this in every cutscene. (Although, I do admit I'd love for them to at least use our character class animations in cutscenes we're supposedly fighting in)

The Echo. All of the "Coming to the City" in 1.0 scenes are the player character viewing the scene by being sent back via the Echo. Apparently in 1.0 the player's Echo manifested in a way that actually physically sends them back in time. However it doesn't allow them to alter the events of what happen.

@@ColorOfSakura ooh so that's why Thancred says "who knows what would've happened if I hadn't been there" as if the miqote WoL was inexistent

@@abavendarlocke5455 Echoception? I read about this and watched a cutscene ones (someone walking through the story, I think it was the Limsa story...maybe Speakers Network, but I don't remember), and he made sure to say "the air SHIMMMERS" whenever it happened, because it was really easy to miss and the game didn't make it clear. And the fact that the visions actually inserted you into them AND you could have limited interactions (without changing the outcome of the past events) with the characters (which is how the Scions for your city-state know you later, since you are inserted into their memories kind of like that one Book Of The End guy in Bleach) so that they at least vaguely remember you. That's probably why the do the heartbeat, headache/forehead grab, sepia color filter whenever we get an Echo vision now, because that makes things a lot clearer, and our character is obviously never in the visions, much less with us walking around and doing things.

And f'lhaminn is a Catgirl milf.

and having both of them leaving him in the end, man deserves some happy ending yo

@@noobienovice Ryne didn't leave him, he left Ryne behind, but she will return in future contents

@@rudomikazuki8301 yer, messed that up. hope to see her again in the next expansion

You would play for 5 hours and then give up, trust me. The gameplay were a fucking freaking nightmare mess

@@hicarodestrui Wow, it was THAT bad?

@@BigDrewski1000 Well, why do you think that: -Game received 46 of 100 in metacritic score and 36 in the popularity score -Game made Square Enix panic and almost die, even the Square Enix director needed to go to public and say sorry for the game. -3 months later, FFXIV original director was fired, and they literally called Yoshida P. -It were so bad, that after some updates, Yoshida literally asked for burn out the entire server and game, to rebuild a 2.0 from scratch in 1 year. (A freaking new MMORPG in just 1 year), and for some weird fucking reason that noone knows, Square Enix accepted. -The thing is so bad, that last year, they asked Yoshida if they had plans to releade 1.0 classic server, he literally laughed for minutes, and told that NO WAY that they would releade that nightmare. -Game literally was running at maximum 20fps even in the most top tier PC. -The game were so bad, that in the release it Didnt even had jump, minimap, forget quest, end-game content AND CHOCOBO RIDE. -Even through the game is now, WAY FREAKING FUCKING BETTER than before, and being considered as one of the best FF in story wise and one of the best MMORPG. A lot of fans, simply are not playing since 1.0 release, because it were so bad, that they really believe that the game didnt improved, because in their minds, its impossible to improve it that garbage game. To tell you, a lot of FF fans, simply give up from the series because of how bad it was.

@@hicarodestrui Big oofs. Lol

1.0 was fun and had a lot of good things going for it despite being broken/incomplete. Dont let some of these commenters fool you-it was an experience to be had-if only for a brief moment.

Reminds me of Limsa on any given day.

let's be real, do you really think they can keep this quality running for 10+ years and with the release cycle like we have for today? unlimited budget maybe otherwise no

This was never sustainable from a budget standpoint. Most of the time the canned animations are in dialogue, which is more than fine in an RPG. The direction ramps up appropriately during action scenes and they look great, so I don't think we really lost much at the end of the day.

@@yano4473 Broadly I agree, however I do think jazzing up the intros in ARR a little might be a good move. I didn't mind it too much but if you want to get people hooked, a good first impression is key.

@@Junebug89 You do have a point. While I'd say they're okay-ish now, having something like this would surely make new players more interested.

@@yano4473 I could see them going all out at the end of 6.0 with a big cutscene on this level (or hell, somehow have the WoL not be in it and have the whole thing be pre-rendered), since it's the end of an arc. Or, at least, I'm hoping for it.

Yeah, it's a shame. While the 1.0 version of the game itself was pretty dodgy, the cinematics were good, and the game design had you taking part in the scenes from the story right out of the gate. It felt a bit like the original EQ2 intro in that respect.

Shikaar and you needed a NASA's supercomputer to play it XD so yah... xD

Shikaar Cutscene quality took a huge bump for the better in 2.5 and Heavensward. They really need to choreograph _all_ of the cutscenes manually instead of just using the static idle models.

+TurnerXI FFXIV is designed to run on a shitty laptop. You're not looking for a NASA computer. You're looking for any computer other than the shitty one you've got. If you're still using the same computer you used to record FFXI then OF COURSE FFXIV is going to run crap for you.

Cao Cao I was talking about 1.0

xD

advantages of being smol

ShiroiTaiga Yeah, having played 1.0... you don't really want to PLAY that, but it would be nice if they would have archived all the cinematics so you could review them at the inn. I guess some of them would have been spoilers for the "echo" storyline of 2.0, but still... they put a lot of work into some of those. :)

Dread Quixadhal 1.0 wasn't good, but it wasn't THAT bad either, it depended on the gamer really, they tried to make the game playable for both die-hards and casuals, for casuals it was good, but for die hards it wasn't in the least. 1.0 was the first mmorpg i ever played, so my comment is sort of a noobish pov, but i think its the die-hards and the group that falls between casual and die hard that keeps a game rolling. its what made 1.0 crumble i think. not enough casual players to like the game:p. Also the controls got alot of dirt for it being designed for controllers, leaving the keyboard/mouse players with a hard time configuring their settings. what i did like were the NM's . the fate's are similar, still there is something about fate's which makes me like the 1.0's NM's a bit more, i think its them being random on the map without a marker. i liked the 1.0 coerthas and mor dhona way better then they are now, especially the BGM's. overall 2.0 is better. but 1.0 wasn't to bad. long story, sorry:p

@@lunasilvermoon2283 ever watch the KZfaq series Remnants of a Realm? Good stuff.

Seeing and experiencing are two different things entirely. And no, the maps didn't look much better. I highly doubt you even looked at the maps

@@yeah4278 Yeah, because when I think immersive, copy-pasted terrain repeated several times in a waffle pattern is the first thing that comes to mind

@@yeah4278 Despite it being largely inhabited by people who literally have their own stories to tell as opposed to 1.0 being largely barren with little to nothing to do in these areas that all look the same?

i actually looked this video up because i JUST finished my ALC quests :)

@@Zimmer9951 Same, I watched in 1.0 but I had not known the stuff I know now after playing all this time. I just finished my alc quests to 70 and after completing the quests to all doh jobs, ALC was the one I enjoyed the most!

I'm holding out hope for a proper good quality cutscene at the end of 6.0, since it's the end of an arc. They could go with either a trailer-quality pre-rendered cutscene with only NPCs, or one more similar to these (in-game rendering with your WoL, which most hardware could actually handle 10+ years later), but I could see Squenix putting the effort in to round it off properly and set us off on a good base for where we go after - iirc post-EW content is going to be setting up the next arc.

@@ayanhart I don't think we'll see that til we drop PS4 support.

@@SlashHildy I honestly think the PS4 could handle it - maybe a longer loading prior to the cutscene and maybe some slight framerate drop on the PS4 Lite, but when you look at the end of gen games that would be equivalent, there isn't anything massively different that it'd be doing. Likewise for all but the weakest laptops. It was the PS3 that held FFXIV back initially and there was a pretty decent jump from that to the PS4.

*after doing Stormblood Alchemist quest* It all makes sense now...

yes

It's more like 1.0 - beautiful cutscenes, but godawful to play 2.0 - jank af and not very pretty, but actually playable and fun 3.0+ - Increasing prettiness (coughAymericcough) and skilled use of cinematography to disguise the jankiest parts. Even the main NPCs have gotten updates to their models since 2.0, not just outfit changes - it's most noticeable in the twins, who now look slightly different in subtle ways (eg Alisaie wearing a hint of make-up), but had the exact same model, sans hair-tie, in 2.0.

@@ayanhart True, expansion characters and world look way better than ARR ones. Result of higher budget and actually having time for development. But even looking past that it's clear that current team tries to make most out of what they have.

Agreed

I agree. Lifeless textboxes from ARR almost made me quit the game. If it weren't for the strong writing of later expansions I'd just skip it all

Specially that it's specifically referenced in ARR and subsequent expansions.

@@AscendantStoic the biggest reference was in SB during the alchemist quests

'Tis a shame he's now whinier, less a ladies' man in Heaven's Ward. We need more of this Thancred.

He's still cool imo

@@sae2705 It's called character development my man.

Okanari I am aware, my sarcastic friend. One also doesn’t have to like how they’ve developed the character.

@@sae2705 That's true, I simply feel given how the story's gone from 1.0 and especially through 3.0, his change from carefree flirt with every girl that breathes to solemn and sorrowful assassin has been very natural! I do understand if people miss old Thancred however, he was extremely endearing in his own right.