Honestly the hardest thing about sage is the skill names

So as a bit more of a veteran of SGE now, I do things a little bit differently in dungeons. First, I’m a bit more reserved with toxicons. Although if I know the boss coming up has an early AOE, I’ll use them all on the 2nd trash pull. So to start, I preshield the tank, finishing for crits until the pull starts. During the pull, I spam eukrasian dosis on everything. I do not reshield the tank until after the pull. I start with just Kerachole once the pull has stopped. As kerachole wears off, I use physis+panhaima. Once that wears off, kerachole again. All this while constantly spamming dyskrasia and 1 toxicon. Second pull, I fish for shield crits again before the pull, then eukrasian dosis everything during the pull. Once stopped, I start again with Kerachole. As it’s wearing off, I’ll physis+Haima. And as that wears off, I’ll use Krasis+soteria and kerachole again. I’ll spam dyskrasia and if I know a boss is coming up with an early aoe, I’ll burn my toxicons once the pull has stopped. Sage has much more in its toolkit, but more than this is rarely ever needed. There are a few shadowbringers dungeons where more could be used potentially, but I still spread my cooldowns similarly even in those. I always save haima for the second pull since it has bigger shields and 2nd wall to wall pulls always hit harder than the first. The key to sage is consistent mitigation. As the video said, you do have to plan ahead for incoming damage. This healing rotation I listed is a very conservative rotation that generally works with most tanks who mitigate properly. There’s always less experienced tanks that need more help, and since I still have a lot of resources, it’s ezpz to help them.

One thing to mention about critical shields is that the Eukrasian Diagnosis Shield is consumed before the Differential Diagnosis Shield (The Crit shield), giving the Addersting charge without having to consume the Crit Shield.

Also I found doing lower level duties helped a lot. It got me into the habit of doing certain things to the point that I don't even think about it. I just do it. It also gave me a chance to setup my bars and skills so that I was comfortable with the placement.

This video is brilliant and so informative, I didn't even consider how important both Krasis and Physis together can be for helping with pull mitigation. I also only realised recently that Zoe only buffs with Diagnosis and Prognosis so I've found it incredibly helpful for tank pulls to give that extra push on Eukrasian Diagnosis when prepping for big pulls. Thanks so much for explaining this all out and splitting it into parts to explain how to rotate as well as when certain abilities are useful, it's incredibly helpful to see your way of approaching different skills and finding where to use certain abilities.

Been playing Sage nonstop since early release, something I noticed with Addersting is that if you crit Eukrasian Diagnosis and get the bonus shield, the 'normal' shield breaks before the Differential Diagnosis crit shield and you get your Addersting then, even if the crit shield still remains.

This is greatly appreciated, I kept having trouble handling wall to wall pulls. I kept my tanks alive, but a bit too close to comfort. My biggest issue was panicking and not knowing how to efficiently use my addersgall stacks and being greedy with my cooldowns. Great guide, thanks!

Fantastic guide, yet again. The order of applying buffs and shields is incredibly helpful.

you know i've become a decent healer cause of your guides starting with SCH then AST. to the point were some of these tips are spot on to what i do myself minus a few adjustments. It's a great feeling cause in a high-key way you taught me, and i'm sure alot others, how to heal so thank you so so much for everything you do \o/ game on great sir

Fantastic video. A proper wall-to-wall plan was what I needed. Keep up the good work, mate.

this video is exactly what i needed. clear precise explanations of the abilities and how to use them. was having such a hard time in dungeons finding the right healing combos especially on big pulls and this helped so much. ty

Needed this. In Trials and raids I do pretty well but dungeons have me fighting for my life every time

This guide is very much appreciated. My only experience with healers has been, for the most part, on the more reactive side of things with WHM, so playing a barrier healer has been a very interesting experience. I have to say, it feels pretty rewarding to do when played well, as you can pretty much feel when a preventive strategy "clicks." My only gripe with sage, and a small one at that, would be for Icarus to have a much shorter cooldown... or at least another charge. It just feels good to do :P

Great guide! I have noticed that playing as a SGE, if you apply a crit shield on someone, if what's counted as the "normal" eukrasian diagnosis shield is broken, you still get the stack for Toxicon and it often still leaves the "crit" part of the shield intact.

Thanks for the video momo! I think i’ve had a good understanding on the class for a bit but i always like to watch your guides and compare to make sure i’m maximizing my tool kit :D

This is amazing! Thank you so much. Sage is my new main and I’ve been trying to optimize my pulls. Gracias 🙏🏽

I know this is an older video but I wanted to comment on it. Thank you for all the tips. I've been a Whm main healer for a long time and really wanted to get good at this job. It's a transition mindset thinking reactively vs proactively. It's a very fun job.

oh thank god you did a sage guide! Your scholar guide is what got me into healing and you are hands down the best overall teacher when it comes to heals

Your SCH guide was a complete game-changer for me, I've been waiting for your sage guide, thank you!

Thanks for the excellent guide. The healing routine was especially helpful and practically carried me through the entire leveling process once I was comfortable with it.

Amazing guide. I am kinda proud I alrdy put this to use for the majority of what u explained. This vid makes me go even bigger brain. Big thanks.

Really glad to see you make a Sage guide after I learned so much from your SCH guide! I watched SGE because I am having fun with it, but I wasn't sure exactly how to use Pepsis effectively. Hopefully, with the knowledge here I can start practicing and execute accurately. Thanks for the guide!

This is the first time I've watched your videos and this was SUPER helpful! Having healer anxiety + being away from the game for months made sage really daunting with all the buttons but this helped a bunch

Easily the best sage guide on KZfaq, well done

I got halfway through the video, paused, and subscribed! Loved the step by step explanation for handling pulls, can't wait to try sage after I finish reaper now!

I always come back to this video. Honestly the quickest and easiest refresher/reminder on how to play this class after taking a break from playing

This was a rly helpful guide, as I'm coming from a WHM main into a SGE and they are so different from one another. I'm having to essentially relearn how to heal, so I feel very self-conscious about it and watching this (and will again) has given me some stuff to work on :D

Thank you so much for this video. I was really struggling with Sage. This video really helped it click for me and now I'm much more confident doing dungeons with Sage.

Thank you so much for the video - gave me whole new outlook on sage playstyle.

I've been playing Sage just from my own feeling up til now and watching your video helped a ton in maximizing my toolkit usage. Thanks a ton! Sage absolutely feels like a class that doesn't do that well at "catching up" but is great at dealing with incoming damage you know is coming.

One minor thing I didn’t notice in the video is that Kardia procs do generate enmity. So if tank grabs Mob A and then continues running to Mobs B and C, when you dot Mob A that will generate enmity on Mobs B and C as well if the tank is in their aggro range

These tips and the Shield pull rotation you explained helped me do a dungeon with full pulls with no deaths. thank you alot.

Thanks for the guide! As a tank main I like to watch stuff for healers so I get an idea of what they can do and how to better cycle my CD's when I go for bigger pulls

Fixing to finally try out Sage. This guide made me feel much better before doing so. Thank you.

just amazing guide! very informative, concise and usefull - thank you

Man this came at the right time. I took a year off and just came back after only playing sam and drk. Sage is the only healer that had my attention. Now i can pew pew my way through shadowbringers so I can finally get to endwalker. Keep up the awesome work.

Looking forward to your ast guide as well ^^

Bro, this guide is gold! Thank you!!

I was stressing somewhat doing dungeons with my gnb friend but following the heal plan improved things, a lot. So thanks for this.

Yay Sage guide \o/ - I'm doing alright with Sage I guess but the Krasis/Physis tip is really helpful for big pulls I didnt think of that. Thank you!

This was a huge help. I was having such a hard time healing with Sage until you laid it out step by step.

This video has really helped me to be a better healer in general. Thank you very much

This is am extremely useful video and I'll recommend it to any sages that I see having trouble!

Great content as always!

Quality as always! It's good someone points out that we Sages are in a way like tanks where CDs should be spread out and used often. Panhaima I like to use like to use more often 'first' or right after dungeon bosses kind of thing since the 2 min CD will be up for the next boss and you'll have it for that for fully party, and then up again likely for trash mob use

This...just HALF of this darn video gave me the confidence and comfortability to try sage again. My first dungeon (lvl 80) after watching this was the smooooothest run I've EVER had on a barrier healer after using your routine plan. Thank you, Senpai! T.T

Im glad to know I've been doing something right. It feels so good to use all of your skills. It feels really good when all of them are used to thier full extent.

This video was a god send. I was so overwhelmed when I saw all the different spells you get as soon as you unlock the Job.

Playing Disc Priest, Holy Paladin in WoW, and Scholar in SHB; i feel prepared for Sage. My time has come.

You're one of the only people I trust with healer content and your guides are high quality, thanks!

Thanks. This is very well explained and put together.

This was perfect. Thanks for the sage advice

This is helpful ^^ just did my first few dungeons with sage today and I definitely see where I need to improve! It does help that I know the names of the spells tho 😂👌🏽 if I watched this before picking up sage I woulda been lost

Superb videos mate. Really helps.

Pretty good stuff! I was already doing pretty well with sage cause of my expirence with scholar and barrier mage in general but this video made me realize im being far to conservative with Krasis and Physis. I have to say Sage ticks so many boxes for me though. Plus I get to punch things as Sage with Phlegma lol.

You just earned a sub from me bud. Your healer vids are bang on. I have only gotten WHM to 90 and play it at an okay level but I was terrified of the three other healers. I’ve leveled all the tanks to 90 through dungeons only to force myself to learn how to play them on, at least, a mediocre level so when I get to the healers I have a decent idea of what’s going on. Starting with SGE today so thanks for the 10/10 content. One tip I will mention to new healers, to help ease some of the anxiety of going into dungeons, run trusts until you feel semi comfortable to dabble into df dungeons. Trusts usually take longer than DF dungeons for trash and bosses which gives you a bit more time to work out your rotation. If you feel like you want to start pushing yourself, you can wall to wall in trusts (just have to pull extra enemies yourself) and if you can do that effectively, chances are you will be okay in DF dungeons.

It is a learning curve, that is for sure. Found myself unable to keep tank alive during wall to wall in some situations where it would normally be a breeze for my WHM. I think you hit the nail on the head, Sage requires planning and preemptive measures because it is a barrier healer and does not have multiple 'Oh crap' buttons and stun options like the pure healer WHM. Two different healers with two different play styles and both are very fun and enjoyable!

Having had experience playing disc priest in WoW, I fell in love with the Sage because it's basically disc priest with laser beams. Thank you for the tip with Zoe and Eukrasian Diagnosis. I tend to not use Zoe due to whatever reason, but putting it on a rotation makes total sense. Also, I can sense that you are trying ultra hard to keep the video short as possible due to the super speedtalking (which btw is still very understandable. That is amazing). I would have loved it if you slowed down just a tiny bit. Like by 5-10% would be great =O. If this is your normal speaking speed, then ignore what I just proposed. You're fine as is.

really appreciate this video. I was always too scared to dungeon heal as sage because I didn't fully understand my kit but this really gave me the push I needed and It ended up going well for me. thanks a ton

Thanks for the tips!

Exactly what i was looking for!

Ah, why am I suddenly excited to try out Sage? Help? Thanks for this fantastic guide. Once I get around to level sage, I will watch this a gazillion times, I know :3

So insightful. Thank a lot. ☺️

This guide is what finally helped SGE click for me, ty!! Would love a similar one for SCH in EW!

Good simple tip I feel is know a basic understanding of each tanks abilities as well so you know a general pull style or their emergency buttons. Vice Versa for tanks as well, know the healers skills a bit so you don't go in expecting massive burst heals and get dots ans shields. I play both tank and healer in a few MMOs and it's nice to change my tempo based on what class is healing/tanking for me.

After gaining job stone, i spent 20 mins reading tooltips, re-organising buttons to more familiar healer button orientations and felt ready, wiped twice on the first job story boss... -_-

THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS SO BAD I WIPED 5 TIMES IN SHB FIRST DUNGEON

Fantastic job can't wait to level a healer to put this information to good use! Looking forward to your thoughts on Whitemage in the coming days/week.

This is so good I had to watch it several time to get it completly. Thanks for a great guide. Seems also sthats its very applicabke to SCH since they have many simillar spells.

Thanks this immediately improved my gameplay

Thank you for this!

Thank you because of your guide I've become a better healer. Keep up the amazing work!!!

I'm glad someone more skilled with video editing than I managed to get out a good guide for my now favorite job. Something I do want to correct tho: Toxikon. It actually is on the lowest part of the priority totem pole, but you do want to gather all 3 when you can. It's a potency 330 with a 50% AoE that is instant cast. That means for the crowd you're dealing (everything but the initial target) a potency of 165. This would be compared to Dyskrasia's 170. Plus Toxikon is still a gcd that requires a different gcd to be cast. Effectively this would be equivalent to Physic giving Ruin 2(+Art of War) stacks to use alongside Ruin and Art of War. Meaning it really is best used as a mobility option for keeping your gcd rolling but needing to dodge, much like Ruin 2.

Yeah this is one of those videos imma have to watch more than once to make sure i don't miss anything

I main as WHM and Sage was a lot harder than I thought it would be and I absolutely love it! Thank you for this video can't wait to use it in some dungeons. ☺️

Thank you so much for this. 👏

wow this is amazing. I hope he releases a guide like this for AST in Dungeons

I know this video is 2 years old, but this video has converted me into a SGE main for casual content. I've healed every EW dungeon very comfortably with SGE thanks to this video. Thanks Momo!

This is probably only useful outside dungeons, aka trials and raids, but useful nevertheless: Kardia can be weaved constantly every 5 secs so you can get value from it all the time. You can use it to heal a party member that needs only a bit of healing while the tank is topped or has shields; also useful as a complement to other resources when you just revived someone, and a big etc. You can only do it each every 5 secs, but if you're already confident at managing damage Kardia becomes a powerful tool.

Dude I thought I was doing a pretty decent job healing but this made me realize I was not doing as good as I should be. Thanks for this!

Bro, thanks for this video. First time being a healer and was at a loss.

Nice overview for Sage. I returned to FFXIV after 6 month now. This video is great for refreshing all the abilities. Nice work, as always ^^

Best Sage video by far! thank you.

this whole time i've been overwriting kerachole with tauro smh ty it helped a lot

Sage is the first healer in the game that I tried out. I know that maybe I should've started with a more "bread and butter" healer like White Mage but Sage's playstyle and aesthetic interests me way more. So I am glad that I stumbled upon your video, it helped me a lot to strip some bad habit from my healing methods.

Good video but it's almost impossible to follow if you don't have the skill names + icons pulled up on the side. All the icons are just shapes, half the names end with the same thing and when you did have the skill descriptions on the screen they were moving around making it harder to read

Most of these things I picked up with in the first few dungeons, so it good to know I'm on the right track. On bosses I tend to only to use Holos to cut down on any aoe damage if i'm out/want to save Addersgall. "Cheesing" boss aoe with Physis and or Kerachole while putting Diagnosis shields on me and the other dps feels so satisfying, especially when they take only a few hundred damage from the aoe after the shields, I try to fit these GCD's in during movement just before or if I know the shield will last till the aoe. Amphibious Talos in Malikah's Well is a good boss to learn that type of midnset while lvling sage, shield everyone when they are moving to the sides/back in then Kerachole before the knockback aoe.

Thank you for the guide! I've avoided shield healers for the longest time, but I remembered your fun and interesting Scholar guide, and after watching the Sage guide too I decided it can't be too bad. I didn't get it at first, and then it clicked when I realised I kept the tank up much better at the end of 120s healing CDs spamming Dyskrasia + Taurochole/Druochole - I shouldn't let the Kardia "HoT" drop at all, and should fit the high potency oGCD heals in, as an attempt to slow down the tank's drop in HP and also kill the mobs faster. Phlegma and Toxicon are enemy-targeted and make it hard to do the oGCDs with target swap, so if I get rid of them first, I can Dyskrasia + Taurochole/Druochole freely. Sage is quite impressive with its mitigation, in that usually when the tank stops after finishing the wall-to-wall pull, they barely take any damage due to high damage mitigation and healing amplification + Haima/Panhaima, and when the tank's HP starts to drop, that's when the mobs are nearly dead anyway. Healing during boss pulls are quite comfy, as you can coast along spamming damage spells with just a smattering of Kerachole, Physis, Eukrasian Prognosis + Pepsis and some spot healing. Shields on tankbusters and party-wides are nice too. Shield healers have to be quite economical with MP since it's all CD or class resource-based, but it's great training - stops me from spamming excessing healing when I'm back on the regen healers. I think I still have to work on using Addersgall a bit more to maintain high MP though. With repeated Dosis casts, MP plummets quite quickly. I realised that GCD heals indicate that I've failed to set up pulls properly, or we've got issues with tank mitigation CD cycling, or we don't have enough DPS. It's only going to be a thing when things are really not looking good and all my oGCDs are gone.

Absolutely LOVE this video. Thank you! I want Sage to be my main. Important thing to note about Critting Eukrasian Diagnosis... When you do, it'll apply 2 different sets of Diagnosis. The Original Eukrasian Diagnosis AND a DIFFERENTIAL Diagnosis... The Eukrasian will break first, the Differential is the EXTRA you get from the Crit. However, since the Eukrasian breaks first, you WILL get a Addersting before the WHOLE shield breaks! Addersting procs from Eukrasian breaking, not Differential. However... since Differential IS it's own shield... you CAN keep giving Eukrasian which will continue to break first, leaving the Differential. Buuut... very Niche. Just something to note.

Thanks you so much!!

Thank you!

My Sage Healing setup for big pulls is always like this: While tank is picking up mobs and going to destination to stop: Shield -- Shield Break, Shield -- Shield Break, Shield -- Shield Break - Tank Stops: Kerachole + Haima + Zoe Shield Toxicon-Phlemga-Phlemga-Toxicon-Toxicon-Toxicon and some Dyskrasia until tank has taken dmg: Terachole + Shield + Physis - Shield again Toxicon-Toxicon Finish up.. off to next pull Rinse, Repeat Except instead of Haima use Panhaima on 2nd big pull (if you have it) My mana has Barely moved, i havent stopped casting and everyone is happy and full for next pull.

Not sure if it was mentioned, but: stay really close to your tank while they're pulling. If you apply Eukrasian Dosis on an enemy while the tank is pulling it, you'll grab aggro from the other enemies of the pack due to the heal from Kardia. Staying as close as you can to your tank makes it easier for them to grab aggro back with an AoE or two.

I love that sage has a designated "keep up with the asshole tank that rushes ahead with multiple gapclosers and then dies" button in icarus. Now they just need to give it a second charge in lv 91-100

hey momo, thank you for your guides! i always learn and improve so much with your help, i appreciate it. in your sch shb dungeon video, i learned that i shouldn’t use all the resources at once, so i can always have something going on throughout the pull i'd like to ask if i should worry about that in sage while deploying krasis, kerachole and physis II at the same time. thank you very much

Good work your video is awesome explanation thank you

I've been a WHM for 7 years but the tips here really help, especially cooldowns. If a dungeon takes ~30 mins, using Benediction from time to time from strong pulls doesn't hurt.

Sage is the first healer job I'm trying to be more serious about playing, and it's definitely an interesting class. I primarily play tanks, my favorite being Dark Knight, and the way I've been registering how Sage works is a lot of the barrier mechanics are similar to TBN in certain ways. Just like how TBN grants protections before it breaks and grants a Dark Art that can be used on a Flood or Edge, Eukrasian Diagnosis similarly protects and breaks to grant Addersting for the powerful damage attacks. An oversimplfication, sure, but it did help me to register how the job works a little easier, utilizing barriers to mitigate how much healing you need to do so you can spend most of your time dealing damage. I'm level 81 Sage right now, I'm still trying to get the hang of it. In any event, I appreciate the video guide, and I'll be putting your tips into practice. I think my biggest problem is using too many of my barriers immediately, leaving me fewer resources later. I've heard people say that you should never have a full stack of 3 addersgalls, because if you do, it means you aren't utilizing them enough. So I've been looking for ways to use them, to the point that it's resulted in me unable to recover from a dire situation, so I've been trying to be less anxious and figure out when the right time is to use my tools. Sometimes it's been good, other times it's been rough. I also tend to use Eukrasian Prognosis a lot more than Eukrasian Diagnosis, since it's just easy to press the AOE button instead of targeting the tank (I play on controller) but I'm getting into a better habit of using Eukrasian Diagnosis primarily, and using Eukrasian Prognosis when I know the entire party will get hit, but using Eukrasion Prognosis is still kind of an instinctual reflex due to how easy it is to use, always needing to remind myself that it's not as likely to quickly break, and provides less protection to the tank overall. TLDR; I'm still learning, but hey. I've been getting a lot of commendations as Sage, so I must be doing something right at least. LOL

12:07 talking about using Icarus to keep up with tank and tank instantly jumps to next pack of mobs... Like saying "nope, i got this". Seriously tho, the issues i have found with sage is that when you get into a group that has more than a couple people that refuse to follow mechanics and you need burst heals to get them topped before a group wide aoe. If both healers are sage, sometimes it just isnt enough to keep the dragoons alive (sorry i just had to say it).

This is a good guide but i'd add a few more tips based on my leveling experience: 1 - Know your tank cooldown. I find it completely useless to use any Cooldowns on a WAR under bloodwhetting, for 6 seconds it's virtually unkillable as long as it uses AoE. On the other hand, DRK "only" has TBN and no strong self healing ability. 2 - If I'm not mistaken, Toxicon is a DPS loss on 2 targets, at the end of a pull I find it usefull to shield just to get extra stacks in prevision for the next pull. Dyskrasia is better on 2 target since Toxicon loses 50% of its power after the first target. 3 - When managing cooldowns, prioritize 60s cooldown. With PUGs, time between pulling wall to wall packs can last 60s, meaning your cooldowns will be back between those two packs, while the 120s will be available only once. More of the time, I never had to do more than Eukrasian Diagnosis and maybe Kerachole, only using Haima if the tank was taking too much damage or I was planning to spam Toxicon. It's also a good place to use Soteria.