FFXIV: REALLY understand Viper at Lv.80 🐍

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Ай бұрын

[ UPDATE ] - Patch 7.05 has changed Viper's skills and I've published an updated version of this video. Check it out at the link below!
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@Filmire Ай бұрын

*[ UPDATE ]* - Patch 7.05 has changed Viper's skills and I've published an updated version of this video. Check it out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pK2JfLqoztXTnX0.htmlsi=thaRdheLlhbCMmr_

@Shrubsova Ай бұрын

I watched about a dozen Viper guides before finding this, that really tried to explain the job as "Just watch your hotbars the whole time," as if that's good advice for any job in this game. Thank you. I'm the kind of person who needs to know why I'm doing something before I can actually learn how to do it.

@Filmire Ай бұрын

I'm happy to hear you found value in the guide's approach!

@Muldaak Ай бұрын

Best. Viper. Guide. Ever. Man, this was so easy to understand! Thanks a TON!

@kelvinjames97 Ай бұрын

After watching multiple viper tutorials I have to admit you have the best and most detailed of all. Keep doing more jobs man, loved it 🙏🏼

@cor8052 21 күн бұрын

Excellent guide. Thank you for your hard work!

@StormhawkeRose Ай бұрын

I've played all the other jobs, including picto, and I've never had so much trouble understanding them before. This helped a ton, thanks!

@blkcubwhtbear5361 25 күн бұрын

This at least gives me a place to start. I couldn't think anything would be more confusing than reaper or sage but here we are

@Coolio_Ash Ай бұрын

Oh thank you so much i freak out when more than one weaponskill starts glowing

@Coolio_Ash Ай бұрын

This makes so much sense the way you set up your hot bar to have the bottom (a button) represent the hind and the left dpad to represent flank

@Filmire Ай бұрын

Glad you noticed that! They also match the left and right sides of viper sight!

@Falcon.Crunch Ай бұрын

echoing what other people have said in the comments, this is the guide that actually got me to understand the job. other guides just left me more confused than before, not to mention feeling dumb because of how “easy” they would say it was to understand. thank you so much for this!!

@Filmire Ай бұрын

It is encouraging to hear the video stood out. Glad it helped and thanks for leaving a comment!

@Muldaak Ай бұрын

@@Filmire Showing the icons, plus the red arrows pointing at what happens was the bet part!

@ItsTheCak Ай бұрын

This video was the best explanation yet. Hope to see more guides for the other classes.

@kattsndragons2388 Ай бұрын

Thankyou!!! This helped me so much I really appreciate the step by step!!!

@Filmire Ай бұрын

Glad it helped!

@raventhorX Ай бұрын

as i learn more about this class i realize how convoluted it is possibly making it confusing for certain players. So many of these buttons can just be switched to changing the same button which will also help with bloat. for example twinfang and twin blood. Since you will press one over the other at any given time why not just make a single button that changes accordingly? Then with the primary single target rotation why are there 4 different options? they all basically do exactly the same thing with the exception that two are flanks and two are rears. reduce this down to one or something. In fact you could probably adjust serpent's tail to be context sensitive so it switches between either death rattle, last lash, twinfang bite, twinblood bite, twinfang thresh, or twinblood thresh depending on what button was pressed before, with the thresh and bite buttons giving an additional press for their counterparts. If anything a lot of the abilities are very redundant and serve no purpose other than to make the class feel busy and be confusing to play for some imo.

@Filmire Ай бұрын

This is true, and it sounds like the dev team will be adjusting Viper in an upcoming patch. (News came out right after I posted this video 😑). Though, I actually like Viper as it is -- even though it could be simplified, its busyness makes it feel like an action game, and hitting the correct combos feels rewarding -- this is just my opinion.

@raventhorX Ай бұрын

@@Filmire I totally agree with that, but personally I don't want it to feel busy just because of redundant abilities, I'd like some variation or additional reason to use those extra buttons. Like with the 4 buttons in the single target third phase what if they each gave a different buff of sorts instead like one increases damage dealt, one increases damage taken on a target, then you got your speed buff etc. I admit since these are pretty much earlier in the combo you'd need to figure out howbto change those. Maybe make them apply a weaker buff and upgrade the buff when the third phase attacks are activated or something.

@Filmire Ай бұрын

That makes sense and is a cool idea. I guess we'll see what happens with the job in a few weeks!

@raventhorX Ай бұрын

@@Filmire indeed. I suspect at best they might prune an ability or two.

@LMTheReaper Ай бұрын

I appreciate this guide! Thank you.

@kylegordon00 Ай бұрын

Are we really meant to use twinfang/twinbite oGCDs within a single GCD like that? When I try it, there is major clipping into the GCD. It seemed like you had the same issue in your video with clipping, as well. Do the potencies of the two oGCDs win out over the dps of just using one oGCD and then just starting your combo over from the beginning? Great video by the way - I watched several "Viper is so easy just push the glowing button" videos that were really unhelpful. I'm happy for new players who will find the job easy, but I like to understand what I'm doing and why. Having multiple buttons light up during combos, but not always the same buttons every time, was extremely confusing to me. Now I realize it's the game client trying to be my Autopilot. Thank you for making the vid!

@Filmire Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. It's always great to hear the time I put into a video is appreciated 👍 Yep, I'm confident we are intended to chain the twin bites. Using one buffs the other and they are both use-it-or-lose-it. If you don't chain them, the remaining bite + buff is disabled and lost. I performed the combos at a more relaxed pace for the video to make them easier to demonstrate and edit. When I do the dreadwinder combo normally, I find that it flows naturally. If there's any clipping or delay, I'm unable notice it. Hope that helps!

@Frankthetank302 Ай бұрын

Best guide for viper I've seen you should totally do all the jobs you can

@Filmire Ай бұрын

Much appreciated 👍. I'm working on a guide for Pictomancer that I hope to release later this week 🤞

@DeliciousMorsels Ай бұрын

Well, I think I kinda get it now lol. We'll see how it goes when I get time to put it to practice. Viper is definitely one of those jobs where giving you 90% of your kit up front and saying "have fun kids" isn't the way to go lol Thanks for the vid!

@Filmire Ай бұрын

I'm sure after you try it a few times it'll click 👍. I agree, this is the first time we start new jobs at level 80, so it takes up front investment to figure them out.

@crazychemist6413 Ай бұрын

Thanks Filmire!

@TwStedPrinCe 23 күн бұрын

Why the hell am I not understanding this? It just seems so convoluted and even though this is the only video that I’ve found that actually makes sense, I still seem to be confusing the actions in practice. Maybe this would be easier on a controller?

@BOFH_ Ай бұрын

It's amazing how anyone could want or even need adjustments to "Press the Glowing Button: The Job" in the first place.

@michaelwoods9669 Ай бұрын

Nvm, I first typed complicated but yeah it's really not lol.

@Filmire Ай бұрын

Haha, no problem 🙂

@kimdotnet8151 Ай бұрын

What is this camera view it looks dope! (I’d check myself but I don’t even feel like it cause I have stitches on my finger) 😅

@Filmire Ай бұрын

Maybe what you're noticing is the enemy lock-on camera?

@kimdotnet8151 Ай бұрын

@@Filmire that’s probably what it is, I’ll check it out when I get home. Makes it look like a different game lol

@4SkippyRoo Ай бұрын

this job is an absolute mess

@tehzerp Ай бұрын

The only question i have is wheb do you mix dread into tegular rotation just when you uses?

@Filmire Ай бұрын

Dreadwinder needs a little more attention, so I like to rotate it in when the battlefield isn't as busy (such as when I don't need to worry about dodging AoEs). I also try not to leave it at max charges for too long, so its recharge time isn't wasted. That's just my approach and I think there are other valid ways to use it.

@conchbubbies9767 Ай бұрын

This is what I've been trying to work out. I'm still making my way to 100 so I've been working on the idea that maybe there's something I'm still missing from the kit to figure it out, but for right now I just try to ensure it's not capped. Perhaps it's meant to be used when you want more of a burst under party buffs (?)