I LOVE ninja

@@Pikachu-qr4yb My static loves to make fun of the loud bonking.

@@sniderealism2410 it sounds like hitting chalk on a chalk board

I started playing this month, my ninja is yet at lvl 76 , I went to train with a dummie in front a friend who's playing BLM (And is about the same lvl), after I did the whole opener he went like "Omg that's so flashy all I do stand and cast"

Not to mention those 150K+ hyosho crits best feeling ever

Respect 🙏🏾

Gosetsu is why I picked up Fisher lol

sam is only easy if you choose not to fully learn it.

I played SAM because Midare Setsugekka is a thing.

Me, who picked sam cause of zenos, LOL XD

i would say some minor QoL changes and such would be good give us an aoe disembowl hi-jump should turn into mirage dive after used possibly combine spineshatter and dragonfiredive, into one ability with 2 charges (a bit of personal preference to give more room for new abilities)

@@rh0dr1 maybe make Sonic Thrust proc and refresh Disembowel? And I agree Spineshatter and Dragonfire just kind of exist. It's a little annoying to have a "push this button just because" kind of thing.

Tell me how the floor tastes, little man!

@@rh0dr1 wouldnt turning high jump into mirage dive mess with the double life opener? You wanna be able to see both CDs

@@TemporalMeteor not too much, since mirage dive has a like 15 second use window. and Hi Jump and Geirshkigol have the same cool down.

I’m a Ninja main and I don’t think Shukuchi counts as a true gap closer either. I mean yeah, it closes gaps, but it doesn’t double as an attack like all other gap closers. It’s purely a movement skill

That right there is why I'm SAM now, and dropped DRG after the one and only expansion I played it in x.x

@@ChamberK-1 So true but then again, Ninjas have a lot of ranged attacks so it's not as bad. but a gap closer so it would be easier to initiate weapon skills is good to have.

I don't really have any issue with Junction Shiva in E12S. You should be in a Life cycle during that point, so you can just use Stardiver after the stack. That also happens to be right around the time when either Lance Charge is ending or Dragon Sight is beginning, so it's still in a buff window. As for the knockback during Statues, you can actually use Elusive to counter that knockback. The knockback doesn't turn you, so you can actually use it to reverse the slide and end right where you started. Or, once again, you should be at a Life Cycle during that period, so Stardiver is ready just in case.

I just started this game and play a monk and that’s exactly what I thought it was supposed to be the more me more I level up

i wish we had a Druid-like class here too.

Former Troll Elemental Shaman here, and honestly, as much as I love Monk in 14, I still haven't found any class that feels like Elemental Shaman yet. Ah well, at least MCH and Monk feel great.

Glad I'm not alone there. NIN is secretly the 4th caster dps

Death is the greatest debuff you can inflict.

I'd say their "raid support" would be their high burst. Good for crushing adds and surviving dps checks or enrage mechanics

Everything plays mostly the same, so everything should feel familiar as you play them. At least that's how I feel after about 5 months and playing like 6 different jobs. Casters are weird though.

Yeah I love when I go from 140k to 160k damage.

mhm, always on CD if you do that it will fit into Trick for the most part but not using on CD and "saving" it is a dps loss in the long run

i also play ninja and love getting in dungeons and getting a pack of mobs down to like 20% solo cause of the aoe dmg spells we have lol

@@williamhazlett6724 The AOE is sooo good. Usually hate using AOE, not on NIN.

@@JWA_1988 Fellow NIN main here. Their AOEs are just so stacked. It's amazing.

I'd love Dragoon with slightly lower GCD :( Like 2.1 would be perfect. It just feels so slow sometimes (maybe because i'm WoW refugee)

@@pr3287 I came over from wow & I'm playing a Machinist atm. I have a Bard also. Machinist is pretty fast & 99% mobile. It feels like playing a BM hunter during bestial wrath but with no pet, lol.

Drg can be super fast but you need to be at least lvl 80. For me its the most badass jobs especially once you get to lvl 70-80 or so

This is a pro IMO, it makes optimizing on the job super interesting and rewarding. Keeping your tsubame and higanbana lined up with raid buffs and on CD even with having to lose GCDs to mechanics is super satisfying. Ex. I have to move out to do a mechanic that costs me a GCD. I normally use 2 filler GCDs with my Sks (optimally Yuki+Hagakure), so I will instead need to use 1 this cycle (optimally Yaten+Enpi).

@@bwpbwp9613 I agree. Samurai is very approachable, which is great, but the nuances of optimizing it vis-à-vis keeping Tsumabe off cooldown, doing filler GCDs and accounting for downtime either on the fly or because you know the fight mean there's still room to grow in skill. I feel like that helps it strike a really awesome balance between being new player-friendly and rewarding expertise for people who main it.

Thats one of the reasons why SAM is the hardest melee to optimize and losing one of the combo GCDS outside fillers results in maasive potency loss by the end of the fight due to how clunky tsubame and refreshing bana on time with meikyo is.

Still waiting on a 30 second chaos thrust dot. 24 seconds is mathematically impossible to keep up.

@@PH03NIX96 Yeah it's so dumb, a normal length dot (seriously it's the shortest among the melees) is typically the kind of little potency boost dragoon needs.

@@Creedlane monk's is 16 seconds tho

@@phabled3851 but monk can reapply it before it ends or right before it ends cause monk's gcd is WAY lower. For us dragoons to keep 100% uptime on chaos thrust we should run a 2.40gcd sks set which to be fair it would suck.

Chaos thrust is sitting almost at comfortable refresh level tho, bcs drg bis skill speed usually means they refresh chaos thrust 1 second late. Make chaos thrust 25 or 26s is alr good for perfect 1s refresh imo

Possibly this is just me, but I feel the opposite about dragoon's rotation. The number of different skills required to make a full loop is so many, and the job has such a bloat of OCGD attacks and buffs, that at least for me on a PlayStation it's impossible to fit them all on a single crossbar, thereby making the job more likely to be played poorly simply because you missed a jump or something similar to that. Interestingly, as someone who mains monk, the rotation there is also pretty long, but it's just different ordering of the same six skills and the flow of hitting them and moving for positionals has a better fluidity to it that makes it more predictable.

i hate double midare lol being forced to loop the rotation and use hagakure to maintain that loop is pretty lame imo. Its not intuitive at all for people learning the job and its something you have to find out from other players, research, the balance etc.

@@anthonydelfino6171 yeah I am still in the processing of leveling drg to 80 and I am running into a similar situation. Also, on ps4. I know I am pretty bad at optimization but goodness. Not sure how I am going to do that. Time to find a guide lol

My assumption is the “rotation” is : rear combo (so demolish) - some other Global cooldown while moving to flank, - flank combo, Off global cooldown as you go back to rear.

Had to scroll too far for this. All of our "gap closers" should be used on CD (with the exception of a slightly flexible Stardiver, but even then you're at the mercy of your buff window), and as much as I love Elusive Jump, it does not replace a true gap closer, which every other melee has (including tanks!).

@@DickyG41 yeah exactly! and animation lock for stardiver is too big, you might aswell run to melee range and use it on the buff window

Yeah if anything due to the animation locks they seem less mobile at times. Honestly if they actually wanted them to be mobile jump would not reset you back but just work as a move in ability. Either that or give them a jump ability that you can jump anywhere you want with via ground targeting. Yeah everybody else seems to have a gap closer, which makes theirs not feel so special.

@@DickyG41 Elusive Jump >>> any 'true' gap closer It's way more verstatile, you can jump forward, backward. You don't need to target enemy to use it. You don't need to use any resources to do that (like Samurai need to use kenki)

@@pr3287 you cant jump forward you actually always jump backwards depending on where you’re facing. So yeah you can turn around and jump but in the heat of the moment thats a lot of work rather than pressing a button and dashing towards the enemy

Yeah, it's great. It's now essentially way more beginner friendly and intuitive while still retaining the high skill cap - I'd even say that Monk is more difficult than before, just way less bothersome within its core mechanics.

I feel ya but I don’t know it feel hella slow and conkey compared to sam or nin

@@davidpower5710 depends on where your skill speed is at. You can make it fast but you will lose secondary stats.

@@impetuoustiger I know XD it the skills themselves i don't like. the first 2 skills in the dragoon combo feel weak and slow imo which makes it feel worse when the rest of the combo feel and look sick as hell. I just wish they got a upgrade like mch to make the whole combo feel nice . But that's just me

They can make raiden thrust a skill like they did with jump but take the positional aspect out. I lose it from time to time because at that moment I set up to get my positional boss moves. I would also like to see chaos thrust extended by 5 seconds. There are some other improvements they can do but I do agree with you.

Lol NIN is legit my first class ever im lvl 40 rn and im really liking the mudra system

@@IWantToStayAtYourHouse yeah I keep thinking about coming back to it. Atm I'm levelling Black Mage, I just like pretty spell effects that go Boom.

@@warmybear437 well right now with mudra i can cast raiton (lightning spell) and katon (fire spell) which go boom which i like

I was thinking (and keep in mind this coming from someone who's only got the Job at 59 atm so I'm definitely speaking as someone who's not at cap, but) what if Anatman 1: Reset the timer on Twin Snakes and prevented it from ticking for the duration, and 2: Started opening Chakra up to the max 5 (assuming you're not at max already of course).

@@crimsonwizahd2358 your 1st point is basicaly the same as mine because anatman does that already, and 2 i feel like thats unecesary because crits fill up a chakra point 100% at max level

Absolutely not. Ninja is one of the more mobile Classes along with Monk. Huton by itself makes Ninja one of the fastest attacking classes next to the Monk while Tsukuchi gives you a pretty sick smoke bomb teleport fitting the fast angle. The only abilities that actively roots your character is Assassinate due to animation lock and TCJ which is necessary to balance it.

i play BLM / MNK. Big jump between the 2 lmao

Last time I played Huntard they still used MP and rolled Need on everything. So I punched it into google and took the first result I got, which was a good 'ole Icey Veins guide. You want your pet to maul faces off to give you the Focus you need to smash things in the face with a two-handed weapon. While utilizing all manner of traps and other tools designed to kill. So far we don't have a class quite like that. Granted you will get a Company Chocobo that you can mount and fight with. This is part of the main story and its function is to help you out while solo'ing things in the open world. It cannot be summoned in dungeons or the like. Otherwise none of the melee classes summon pets aside from temporary ones like the Ninja's shadow clone you saw in this video or Dark Knight's shade. Summoner seems comparable. They permanently summon pets and give them direct orders not unlike Kill Command as part of their main rotation. They also have some really big burst phases. However they are casters that shoot magic out of books. Demonology Warlock would probably be a more apt comparison to this class. Looking at your rotation Machinist might be the closest mechanically as you have a bunch of different stuff to throw out on CD, or if charges are about to cap, or if Focus is about to cap. They even have a Wildfire Bomb of their own just called Wildfire that puts a status on the enemy. The more weaponskills you use while that status is up increases the potency of the resulting explosion when the status falls off. It can also be detonated manually if you know the boss is about to become invulnerable. Don't worry, they still have a fire cone aoe in Flamethrower and a poison one in Bio-Blaster. They also have a giant drill and bowgun. They are the class with all the rando gadgets for every situation not unlike Hunter's traps and stuff like Murder of Crows. However it doesn't use melee weapons, but guns instead. They also aren't available as a starting class. You need to reach the first expac which requires a lot of story progress and being level at least level 50. I would advise checking out Mr. Happy's video comparing ranged phys DPS to each other. That will cover Machinist and the most direct Hunter comparison, if only because they both use bows, Bard. Which is a starting class in the form of Archer. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZxjdMmh2ayyY2g.html As for what's not in the game: In November we are getting Reaper. A class based on angry farmers that can't use magic, but did figure out how to summon demons. They wield giant two-handed scythes and summon a spoopy ghost that feels more like a JoJo Stand than a proper pet. Based on the little ability display showcase they had the ghost may generate some edgy resource to go into super edgelord mode. Unfortunately this Job will start at lvl 70 and will only be available if you own the new expac, Endwalker. If you planned on just playing the trial or buying the starter edition then you won't have this as an option at all. There is one other that may be coming though it's hard to say when, if ever. Since this game draws inspiration from all the older Final Fantasy titles we can speculate on classes that will be added eventually. Beast Master is a class in some FF titles, usually the Tactics ones IIRC, that has been expressed in an NPC in some recent content. There's an antagonist who wields a big axe and some really big monsters that he commands to kill you. This is in a 48-man raid where one of his greatest beasts is the final boss of the raid. At one point in the middle of the battle one of the parties of 8 people have to go up to a separate platform to fight him alone. During that time all of his beasts come out of the woodworks and the rest of the 40 have to deal with a fuckton of adds, 4 of which make the boss invulnerable. Those adds can be killed and the boss damaged again, but new ones will respawn shortly and the this is while the other adds are making massive aoes. If the party of 8 wins then the beasts shirk away seeing their master lose. If the party loses then the beasts go into a frenzy at his victory and wipe the whole raid. If you are curious then the raid is called Castrum Lacus Litore which is a part of the Bozjan Southern Front. That Beast Master dude also appears as a solo duel on the Front if you're curious about that as well. Mr. Happy has videos on both. Of course this doesn't mean we're necessarily going to get Beast Master in 7.0, or ever, but it is a good sign and pretty neat regardless. TL;DR Start as Archer, unlock Bard, get familiar with the role, and when you get to Ishgard go unlock Machinist.

Ninjas still have to hold onto Huton. The cooldown is long and in dungeons you can just pop it before hitting an enemy, then hiding. Monk also now still has to watch its Twin Snakes buff, samurai has its buffs from Jinpu and Shifu... and I'm pretty sure dragoon has one to maintain as well but I don't play the job to be able to speak to it. Sure these aren't as severe of a loss as losing Greased Lightning was, but they're still out there.

@@anthonydelfino6171 my point is, how often do you NEED to pop the cooldowns? its not like it takes anywhere as long as the build up time for GL4, that is my point, the buffs you mention are typically maintained once up, like GL4 was but if that fell off you still had to hit at least 4 times, unlike other buffs which typically are button press. 4 skill uses vs one ability? the DPS loss was quite high.

@@TheAuron32 I hope they don't design raids with more forced downtime like you're implying, it's annoying as nin and sam to have to worry about buffs falling off which you can't really do anything about, old monk if it wasn't a cutscene you could keep your GL with form shift and anat. Also idk what you're trying to get at by saying monk lost more dps dropping GL compared to other melees, a loss is a loss regardless lol

I can't think of many mechanics where you need speed and have no uptime. Especially since sss gives you a big CD and you need to form shift and meditate and anatman so you probably don't even have time to stance switch. It's easier to just stay in fire and do all the other things we need to do. Earth may help sometimes but normally when you take damage, that's the boss becoming targetable again so we'd lose a gcd in fire

I think monk would definitely be ur best choice if u want combo based. Also later on monks gcd get reduced bsically in half so u will feel less downtime. The beauty of the game is u can also level up multiple classes on one char.

@@greyb5511 Thx

I don't think that's worth it. A 10% damage buff for maybe two or three hits is not worth 100% of a dragon kick or bootshine, where the majority of your dps comes from.

@@PureOctarine yea i tested two scenarios with and without the anatman and the damage was up there and the rhythm isnt thrown off since you weve in ogcds any way just have one up to keep the damage going you'll be fine. I just don't like never having TS up

@@360spider06 but anatman isn't an ogcd. So it costs one gcd. Weaving one ogcd at a time is fine as it doesn't affect gcds but anatman does.