I wish we had gotten those DLCs...

I think an interesting point was that when Noctis shatters Bahamut’s mask, he sees that Bahamut looks like him / Somnus.

I accept Dawn Of The Future an alternate timeline, as of now, the game has 4 timelines. We have the original game, The omen trailer where it's a timeline where Noctis didn't have the bros by his side, it's pretty much a bad ending, but this is then stopped by Regis by sending the bros with Noctis. Then we have the Episode Ignis alternate ending where Ignis doesn't go blind, Ravus lives and Noctis lives and apparently defeats Ardyn without the Sacrifice, and then we have Dawn of The Future where it's a big happy ending. I really like the theory that Regis is behind all of these alternate timelines since he can't bear the fact that his son has to suffer the consequences for the sins of the past and just wants him to be happy. But overall I still think the original ending is still the canon ending.

I’m pissed they just abandoned this game and’s comrades.. FFXV was so fucking awesome. I collected so the weapons, Royal Arms too and did all the dungeons. EVEN THE GODDAMN 100+ floor dungeon when you can’t use healing items and can only heal with spells and every campfire checkpoint. Literally everything.

I love how Noctis' actual reign as king after sitting on the throne only lasted for like... 60 seconds?

Wtf FFXV could have been its own series at this point. Or pull a Fire Emblem and have multiple routes and endings. Now I see why FF7 is going to have its own series. Its just so pact with lore that it just can't be done in one game. And if it could, the quality of it would have to drop for the costs.

Dawn of the Futute doesn't make me feel better, because I get even more pissed! All of this should be in the game! Square-Enix committed a sin with whoever bought the game and is a fan of the series. The game had everything to have an epic story. But, the complicated development of the game and the cancellation of these DLCs put everything to lose! I wanted to see more content from the story, such as Lunafreya, which appeared little in the game, in addition to how Noctis was inside the crystal. I liked the game. But all these problems frustrated me. A canonical end of the game through a book ?! Unacceptable! It was supposed to be in the game!

Sometimes.. As a God in an eternal realm of light, I get a little bored and over 2000 years just manifest some shit stir and make a whole bunch of people suffer and die... Cuz you know...

The "killing gods because they are evil" concept is very common in Final Fantasy, mainly VI and XIII, so Bahamut choosing Somnus / Noctis because they look like him but them rebelling and not being his little puppets makes perfect sense. Not blindly following orders just because a divine power said so and exposing said power as evil is pure Final Fantasy.

My lord that new alternate ending you explained of Episode Noctis made so much sense and the way you put it out and explained it was so easy to understand, a great story gone to much loss due to it not being in the hands of the great Nomura.. such a masterpiece it would’ve been smhh

Can we just note how shitty it is that Square would have hidden the true ending of the game behind DLC?

Honestly, I have come to terms with Dawn of the Future being the canon ending even if the original story doesn't work anymore. Perhaps that was the point of the new ending. The characters fought to challenge fate and get their happy ending, even if it meant ruining Bahamut's plan and making the original story not as satisfying. I know this is kind of a long shot but it makes me feel better about the new ending. Besides, now I can relax and go around exploring Eos in chapter 15 happily knowing that everything was okay in the end.

So they wrote the good ending for the game as canon and didn't include it in game? (Just to be clear)

this DLC would have been amazing and finally addressed all my issues with the endings.

I'm still love this game!

Hopefully one day they will get to actually doing this. Nothing is never impossible.

I like choosing the Resist Ending for the Ardyn DLC because then you can paralle him to Noctis. Ardyn, he who suffers in defiance of fate in the name of spite vs Noctis, The Chosen King who accepts his destiny and saves the world he cared for so much.

The Episode Noctis ending sounds like a real Final Fantasy ending. A Happy end. Afaik all FF games end up happily. FF15 ending tasted bittersweet with Noctis assumed dead and everyone mourning over him.

I will say that if all this was planned out properly, it would have been a great story. Dawn of the Future only works if you know what Noctis does to save the world. Ardyn giving his life in Noctis’s stead only has impact if we had gotten to see Noctis do that very thing. Luna needs better character development, so at least DotF gave us that. But for me, nothing will top Ignis’s alternate ending.

Book comes out this summer in America, I am definitely reading it.

I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you. The dawn of the Future would have made the original story much more impactful and left a stronger impression. It would mean that his journey was just as meaningful but he realized that not everything is black and white and that Arden is the true hero that was supposed to prevail. They set aside their differences to defeat a common enemy. You're definitely being contrarian about this too since the cut DLC definitely sounds way more poetic and better than what we originally got with a happy ending and an epic set of events to proceed it. I think you're just saying you hate the DLC because you know that we'll never get it and you can't cope with that fact

Final Fantasy XV is full of stuff, it has some of my favourite characters of all time, it has an awesome story, I would just like to hear Noctis and his friends live another adventure with them, see how their lifes are going, just see them once again

So, there is one big puzzlepiece I just can't seem to fit into either narrative. And that is the Cave of Eos. I remember the time around the launch of the game, when we had barely anything but breadcrums of a story that once were or was supposed to become. There were all these theories about another summon named Eos, sort of like Zeus in her role, and that all summons but Ifrit attempted to usurp her. That the statue in the cave looked awfully similar to Ardyn and that it was speculated that he may be a decendent of her and so on. Is there anything in either current version of the game that even attempts to justify the symbolism of the content of that dungeon now? I haven't touched that game since its inception unfortunately.

I feel like this Bahamut being bad thing could’ve been addressed if there’s a cutscene showing that his perspective of humanity changed in the original ending.

For me, nothing ever going to beat "Dad, trust in me". The original ending is sad yes, but there's so much weight there that i was able to forgive alot of the janky storytelling beforehand. It really left an impression on me. Also nobody is explaining how Bahamut is evil or what he wants. This new ending just sounds like, "oh the first ending was too dark, lets make it so everyone survives and nobody loses anything"

Thx for this video. Really wanted to know how this was all supposed to end and really wanted to see the gods get punched after episode Ardyn

Sure, they can abandon it completely and working on FF16 but if they have a drip of love left for this game they should have gave us the level editor at the very least so we can make the DLC on our own... ...and ofcourse some other fun stuffs.

Thanks for covering the DLC that we should have gotten. I feel so much better now. Here's one SUB~

that first person gameplay at the end is cursed

I may be wrong on this but for me, in the main game Bahamut is only a plot device but no evil god pulling the strings. This is exclusively to the alternate ending where the game needs a new antagonist so to speak, since Noctis and Ardyn are joining forces more or less. I think we didn't get played by Bahamut in the ending of the main game. This way, all the sacrifices in the main game and especially Noctis' ending are not in vain and still meaningful. This ending is just a bit darker since we don't get a happy ever after but rather Noctis and Luna in their 'final fantasy'. We have to not only look at the story of Noctis and Ardyn differently depending on whether we play the main game or read the alternate ending, but also the character of Bahamut imo. At least I like to think so, since it would end both stories in a meaningful way.

To do all the work it takes to produce and provide it all

Nice explanation dude

I personally think that they should've made the good ending to be in the base game because then none of the events that happened would feel pointless. Besides that nice vid

I am pleased with this new ending, previous one was like all characters were deceived by bahamuth and it was annoying me so much

This should have been the ending!

For me, FF is always about go against the destiny, the inevitable (which always portrayed as some kind of gods in FF). A tragic story would just go unfit with FF (pointing at FF15). The story in the novel is ok. I would be so much okay with the game if this has been included to the game.

Still don't know why they abandoned this game. I really liked it and for all the other new dlcs to be canceled is lame. Feels bad. The "good ending" seems waaay better and better written

So this DLC was supposed to bring the "fight against destiny" of the series all over again...no,thanks.

Lunafraye is basically namine from another demension. #thursathursday

I loved the original XV story it made me sad but it was a realistic story I loved it

I loved this game! And prefear original ending. Your second half of the video made me regreat less of the the cancelletion of the seconds dlcs.

they should keep a team to finish it so much story that they just trow out of the window. if am not mistaking ff15 put them back on track on sales. least they can do is finish it for us that bought it

they should've released episode aranea

If square Enix ever makes a ff15 remake this should be the plot for sure

it sounds like we couldve had a ff9 style story, with a diverse cast and interesting back stories. Quite unfortunate that we don't get to see any of that due to time constraint, poor management and the infamous, problematic luminous engine

I love final fantasy but with all this now don't know what's what anymore

the prophecy and dawn of the future plot are Tetsuya Nomura ideas, which before Hajime Tabata takes over and changes Tetsuya's plot. That's why you felt the paradox after you've read the book. I got the information from a former SE employee, he made a hours-long video about the difference between Tetsuya and Hajime versions of "FF15" and the whole story of FF versus 13(the ending is similar to the dawn of the future). I could post the link below if you want, but he explained all the information in Chinese.

Okay, geme the short version of it, not sitting here and going through all of this again.

It’s really depressing that this game’s vision will never be properly executed. If it had been I feel like it could’ve easily been one of the standout stories of not only the entire franchise, but gaming as a whole. For a game that was literally left unfinished I’m kind of surprised it turned out as coherently as it did. What most excites me and/or makes me sad is thinking about what all was left on the cutting room floor after it’s extremely long and troubled development cycle. Clearly this game was meant to be a huge multi-faceted story judging from the amount of multimedia tie-ins, the season passes that were planned, etc. For however many of those actually got made, I wonder what didn’t due to time, budget, and general lack of direction? I doubt we’ll ever truly know the whole story but it would be cool to find out all the “what ifs” even it it’s not in the form of a game. With all the moving parts of producing a normal game along with the addition of brand and film tie-ins, I’m sure there are a ton of people out there with some really juicy information. I’d love to see FFXV’s failures and successes all put together in one place someday as a documentary or a book. One of the very first snippets of information we heard about Versus XIII back when it was first revealed basically described it as an immersive sim. Where it would take place in the 1:1 scale “modern” city of Insomnia and have all kinds of logic systems and stuff. They wanted to mix high fantasy elements with a hyper-realistic and familiar game world, which is a really interesting idea and seemed to be one of their main pillars all throughout development, it just got less and less ambitious until we got the FFXV we know today. Part of me thinks Forspoken was intended to be one of this game’s spin-offs considering how it also mixes Fantasy with a modern setting, and I feel the same about the little we’ve seen of KH4. It would be interesting to look into those games and see if we can extrapolate any details about what the completed FFXV would have entailed.

My theory is they might consider making this a spin off game, after hearing all of this, it has such a high possibility of being a spin off like how they retcon the story, I’m hoping they would.

So what filter quality level is this

Hey do u do glitches? I saw a permanent cor and aranea glitch, and I'm currently working on a permanent iris glitch on ps4.

So if I were to play through all the dlc that are out and refuse bahamuts plan as Ardyn I could get the good ending?

This poor game went through so many problems, when it was VS XIII, then XV on release, then the addition of canon and noncanon DLC, and then this damn book... it's tragic.

That your all going to be There for it is what we had to prepare for

U da MVP

Dude I don't care about a book.. I care about the game ... Give us the freaking DLC

It truly is a unfinished masterpiece huh

Thank you for talking about the game in 2020 I’m playin it all over again before FF7 and I have a love for this game but I feel like square should try to put more time into this game after ff7 but i don’t know

Now this is a very happy ending adagium and the chosen king respectinh together

The fact we could have more! Like i still go back to play this game coz its just so amazing, its so amazingly diverse and the open world is amazing. They put so much work into it and the dlcs r great too but instead of the fucking comerades they could have just made more dlcs :(

Oh quality evolution is another term for it

FFXV is complete. Dawn of the Future is out !!!!

Filter quality is like leveling up

All this happened cuz a fucking shiny rock didn’t like Ardyn

I agree, the only thing I would have like to play from dawn of the future is Araneas chapter because it seems really fun in my mind when I was reading it.

I'm like only 1 min in and I'm laughing so hard. This is a good video

Dude why does your video description sound so weird?

I NEED PICTURES

I know they are doing just fine

Bro I played through it with all the DLC because of gamepass too lmao

Final Fantasy 15 is part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series, right? So it wouldn't that mean Bahamut is trying to clean up the mess made from Type-0 and FF13?

The chick at the end of the DLC poster next to Lunafreya looks way too much like lightning

Why it canceled

Like a loyalty test

if they done it right and able to make all those plan without problem this FF title could rival FF7 in terms of fame or maybe even surpass it, also in the Dawn of the Future player can play Noctis, badass Luna, Aranea and Ardyn in a party. just imagine that game, it's like the all star character of FFXV

By the way how do you know the new ending is the canonical one ? And that the original one was written by Nomura ? As for Luna resurrection, is not that because a lot of players in Japan complained she died early doing nothing much in the end ? It seems like you prefer the original ending, but I honestly don't understand why play a game if all the characters you like die in the end. Well i believe from the start they should have let us pick the ending we want (either happy or sad).

Bahamuth is the big bad is kinda explained in FF XV Comrade

The creators and developers said that this are alternate endings... they never said that this is canon. The ending in the game is canon and this is not.

The novel is so good, its time they made into a game.

I’m so confused now but I love FF15

Ffxv is a project that could have been even more amazing but i love it regardless. Hope yhat FFXVI can surpass it's expectations in every conceivable way. It seems to have an actual combat system and doesn't seem to be rushed so i have my hopes up.

I sought to bridge reality further

The point of the ending of the main game is you got played by bahamut, dawn of the future the damage was still done to the cast of characters, but the dawn of the future ending is to get back at bahamut for playing them that entire time. I wish you would explain more about what plot hole you're referring to, because to me it sounds like you're basically saying "oh if you're already losing or getting fucked over because you got tricked and you learn that you've been tricked this entire time, you should just say fuck it and keep going along with it anyway". Everyone loves a good story where humans get a chance to defy the gods, especially stories in which the gods see humans as just mere play things, Bahamut wanted Ardyn dead because no human should ever match or succeed the power of a god. Bahamut is an asshole, that's just the kind of god he is in FF XV.

Question: Did Ravus survive in this ending?

I wonder if it would have happen we might get chaos bahamut again.

I just love how everything you explained sounds like a clusterfuck of storytelling and wouldve made the game worse tbh.

Ffxv definitive edition for ps5 anyone? With the OG scrapped gameplay as a cherry on the top

That would have been amazing to see in Gameplay

The filter quality

Is ff15 comrades still on?

That was a lot of people to supply and preprovide

You know, everyone complained about Versus XIII being better If the base game has the story of all 8 dlcs, the removed content from the demos and trailers, the two animes, the movie, and the novel, the whole story would be rich of lore and overall good.

COME ON THIS ENDING IS WAAAAAAAY BETTER!!!

Couldn’t they have just made another movie I really don’t read books.

Can’t they just make an anime with this ending

Like That phase until your at maximum quality possible life size

Cant be canon if it got canceled

Does that mean that square dropped this game since it got so much hate and we will never get the completed one? Wow just... maybe the new ff 16 (if they do one) will be complete... But I sure do love Noctis and I'm totally angry at the fact that we will never ever get a full game with all the dlcs and endings.

I like the ending of XV more. Life isn’t always roses and daisies.