Holy flip. You're that girl KZfaqr that looks like Noctis.

You are a true gamer, senpai.

Serj Angelo switching between regular sword and the wise gets those same attack patterns.

If you time your attacks with the animations you get different combo's and special attacks. Sword of the Father had one

I haven't noticed anything like that. An attack always gets the Blindside bonus if you initiate it behind and enemy. Blindside link strikes just have a random chance of happening during these attacks. I just don't see how tapping/holding could affect that in any way.

Christopher John if you tap at certain frames in the attack animations you will do special attacks and do different combos.

Well, from what I can tell there are two reasons. People tend to think the one they're used to is the superior way, because it works better for them. It's easy to mistake being uncomfortable with one method to it being somehow worse. Also there are the million trolls and people who just are not very familiar with the mechanics who keep saying that holding the buttons is somehow the equivalent of an auto-battle. Like, this holding system could be implemented to Kingdom Hearts and it wouldn't make even a small difference.

Lulcielid time your attacks and coordinate with the attack animations and you will see that tapping offers more animations and special attacks

Did you watch the vídeo?

MemoriesLP Yeah why?

The Video Game Archive Its because the whole point of the video is to show that both are pretty much the same thing. There are no aditional combos when tapping or holding o.o

The Video Game Archive what you are talking about is called Charge Attack (name gave by Comrades), where stop attacking and then attacking again does a special attack.

MemoriesLP No these moves have been in the game since launch and charge attacks are something different. I just found this guy's channel but he does have videos on what I'm talking about. I'm actually happy I found them cause I actually learned somethings myself. Find his greatsword moveset video and you will see. The move I described is called tempest

You can do "Charge attacks" by delaying your next attack, but those are possible to do with holding and tapping.

Erstin Adean I know what you mean. Like the spinning greatsword attack. Alot of people even in 2018 still does not know this lol

I the reason why remnants of the Episode Duscae system even exist in the game is because of some really messy spaghetti code in the combat system. They just built the current system on the same foundation and thought "yea, it's fine". I really haven't noticed any difference whatsoever with greatswords, no matter i I hold or tap. Could you elaborate? As far as I know, KotW doesn't even have a manual Finisher. It just comes after doing combo starter and four attacks. Canccelling only makes you start from where you left off.

" is that it no longer mentions the CRVCD system even though it's still in the game" Not only that, it became severely more random compared to Ep. Duscae both 1.0 and 2.0 versions which were much more consistent compared to the final game. In Ep.Duscae (and hell, even the Platinum Demo) I always knew what attack will be initiated after the dodge roll, I knew that my offence would always start with a Crush move and and that when the enemy's health is critical, Vanquish move will initiate. Final game though is random af with the lame ravage combos activating absolutely randomly at the start of your assault (which is especially not fun when you're locked on to an enemy that's like 5 meters away from you).

Asetoni FFXV when you use a great sword, from my experience if you want to get the entire combo out it's better to hold the button rather than tapping it. I say this because I am currently trying to learn combos in the game and saw a great sword tech vid as one point of reference (you commented on it). I don't remember if the guy said it in video but some of the combos he did were impossible to pull off if you tapped it. I only found out later in a comment that he said it was crucial to hold the button. I can back this up, because when fighting smaller enemies with the great sword if you tap it, more often then not Noctis will keep resetting the 1-2 horizontal swing. Holding the button, even against smaller enemies will allow you to keep getting the full combo out as opposed to tapping it. As for KOTW I'm not surprised you say that because I had the exact same problem. You do have a manual finisher for it (I assume you mean vanquish) BUT you have to be very close to when Noctis does a sort of pose with it. You can clearly see the pose before he lands the finishing blow. I want to say that if you are within 3-2 hits before the pose you can cancel into the finishing blow. It's really weird. You can also cancel from the pose as well, but the only purpose of doing so is to switch to another weapon to do an attack or finishing blow then switch back. An example I can give for this is to get near the pose (I find being at the pose makes it easier for switching) and do the Trident of the Oracle/Swords of the Wanderer glitch. After you switch back you can go into the finishing blow

Serj Angelo could you elaborate what you mean when you say the game is random with combos? The CRVCD system is still in the game, it's just more free compared to the demos. In Duscae, you had to lock one weapon to each slot, and whatever action that connected to that slot would bring out that weapon. In the retail version, every weapon can now utilize the system in itself if that makes any sense. In the demo, whatever you had locked to descend would always bring out that weapon and only that weapon. Whereas in the retail version every weapon has its own descend animation, or counter animation. The thing with that system in the retail version is that every weapon has its own CRVCD system and the beauty of it lies in chaining attacks with different weapons

Ah, I know the video you're talking about. I'll have to re-watch it and try that stuff again to see how it works then. Interesting stuff. I'm still very skeptical about the KotW Finisher, if only because no other Royal Arm has that. Man, I wish I could test this now...

well that's what happens when they're forced to make the game "accessible". holding should have only been for charge attacks, not auto attack imo. KH did it pretty well in regards to combat not being too complex and easy to pick up and keeping solid performance(for the most part)