Brad, Thanks for the honest review. Glad you enjoyed shooting your force. Awesome that The Force was able to shoot the paint that the Luxe was unable to. That alone will make the difference in winning or losing a tournament, having a fun or miserable paintball day. Remember, if you need any tech support we are here for you. -Alex

Can't tell you how refreshing it is to get an HONEST review from someone, feels like that's pretty rare these days. Great review! Love your videos!

I’m glad Dynasty bought Bob Long, hope they have huge success but I’m waiting for the new intimidator

That is the legacy of bob long stuff right there. Very excellent machining, diy grade electronics, and wonky pneumatic engineering. (I still shoot a 2012 G6r)

It’s pretty crazy that I got shot by Ryan Greenspan with this thing

First gun out for them, their is going to be a leaning curve. Great video, " Long Live Bob Long"!

I agree!!! I think it is a Great first time marker for a new company. I wouldn’t say it is the tip of the spear for paintball in 2020, maybe a game changer in 2015ish. I think Field One built a great launching point for future iterations though. Next generation they can focus on the smaller things like going tooless etc. I really want them to succeed.

Best paintball review channel on KZfaq HANDS DOWN. Not long and boring, you go into perfect depth with all of the visuals and illustrations to help wrap it all up. Stellar vids bro

Pro tip: use an exalt rubber reg grip to loosen a bolt that's been sitting or tightened too much.

I feel it is very strange that in the high end serious competition market. People are making a big deal about lack of easy function things like eye covers and battery setup. But not caring about what he said with the paint. I mean when trying to win a competition what really matters. For me being able to shoot brittle paint with no worries comes way before having a nicer screen, or tool less eye covers. Am I wrong?

Neat features add ons bells & whistles, and SWAG Vs. extremely gentle on brittle paint and known reliability? Some may dig the SWAG, I'll take the reliability over the neat add ons.

"Bob Long was a company and uhhh a person". Hilarity my man.

Very cool transparent review about the gun man! I think nothing you said was bad in anyway about the gun. It was just a purely honest opinion. I too am super happy to hear Dynasty purchased Bob Long which is now field one and definitely want them to be successful and I am sure this is just the start to their careers as company owners, manufacturers and design specialists. I think we are going to see a lot of great products come from them in the future no doubt! Their just getting started so I think they will learn alot from the Field One Force and go on to make even better high end markers for us to enjoy!

Never easy keeping that critical eye in focus. Nice review!

Just bought the F1 Force Magma. Most beautiful gun I've ever seen and it absolutely shreds.

Fantastic review I couldn't have described the force better myself. We have a similar deal with the hand thing except my fingers are fat on top of large. I had the exact love hate with the forgrip you did.

Great review brad!

Good review! Field one really dropped the ball especially being 2020. like dude that thing looks like it came from 2012

Looks like a great gun, awesome that it is good with brittle paint. Like others have stated, if the V2 can have an updated exterior appearance and maybe shave the weight down a bit, it’ll be rock solid!

I want a gun that has Bluetooth streaming audio or at least a headphone jack so I can bop some Nick Jonas on the field. A Twitter feed on the OLED would be sick too bro.

My first thought when I saw the original blueprints... Dynasty switched from PE after buying Bob Long, but wanted a CS1 by their own design.

A couple things: 1) You do not want to (nor should you) use *standard* vice grips on the bolt head when separating it from the ram shaft. You want to use *padded* vice grips. Since most folks don't carry this tool in their field kit, you can use a rubber glove, t-shirt or something along those lines. The bolt head and ram shaft don't need to be torqued to hell....just snug them up by hand and you're set. The small oring on the bolt-head end of the ram shaft is there to add friction between the two to ensure they don't accidentally come apart during use. Snug up by hand, remove by hand. It's not rocket science and those of us with Victories (the VCOM is a Victory, BTW), Onslaughts and Insights have been doing this for years. 2) The "adjustable" foregrip is one of the worst design decisions I've ever seen on a high end paintball marker. Nobody (and I repeat, NOBODY) is going to use the marker with the foregrip in the rear position, and 6 year olds are not buying high end markers. This design decision compromised the profile of the area behind the foregrip, creating an ergonomic dead end. The flat spot where your thumb rests and the near-90° transitions are flat-out uncomfortable. Field One, from one engineer to another - that was a silly decision. Please don't make that same mistake again. 3) I'm of two minds with the Nucleus, at least in regards to your segment on disassembly. On one hand, I'm used to it (long time Victory/Insight/Onslaught owner), I'm a big boy and I know what I'm doing. The Nucleus is a big boy engine for folks who know what they're doing, not the 17 year old kid that still picks his nose and eats what he finds. It's not completely tooless, uses some non-standard seals and is a bit "different thanks to those decisions. On other other hand, the industry has shifted toward KISS/fool-proof designs for the 17 year olds previously mentioned (no offense if you're a mature 17 year old). The Force bucks this trend and presents maybe a "less intuitive" product. 4) Agreed on the overall build quality and fit/finish of the Force, which is outstanding....and believe me, I looked for problems. I love the frame-mounted solenoid, wireless contact pads (good component choice, F1, those will hold up well), fastener sizes, radiused trigger guard. Very well done on this respect. 5) Lack of efficiency - this is my second big complaint, next to the poor foregrip ergos. I see a mix of Insight/Onslaught and VCOM characteristics in the bolt system, but the Nucleus manages to be *less efficient* than the latter. I understand that reliability and paint handling were your main design targets (which you nailed), but come on....1200 shots from a 77ci tank is pretty darn poor. Additionally, when it comes time to replace that rear internal ram u-cup, that will be a huge pain. My conclusion: You can afford to have poor foregrip ergonomics OR poor efficiency, but not both. I love certain aspects of the marker, I really wanted to support you guys, but those two items were the dagger. I look forward to your next attempt. Good review, Brad.

1:52 😂. Pleweibth 😂😂😂

Love the truth and view points. ❤

Nice vid but I don't recall ANY Bob Long guns that needed vice grips to take the bolt apart. that to me is a deal breaker, seriously.

You should design your own gun with supreme branding

Had a chance to hold one of these at the field the other day. This thing is HEAVY. Compared to my 170R/DW barrel it felt like double the weight.

You don’t need a vice grip to remove that part of the bolt. Those rubber grips you use to help open jars, a rubber grip sleeve, or anything else that can provide some grip onto the bolt and an allen will do the trick. I will concede it is not as easy as some of the other high end guns though.

You did it!

I enjoyed this video as I’m about to buy a force. Currently run a Geo and would just enjoy a second gun in general. I think the brittle paint would be a seller for me. I play through winter unlike a lot of people. My geo4 has had a couple breaks here and there and my emf100 is about a weekly broken ball. The price is a bit high but a lot of the electronics etc aren’t a worry. I care about performance and shot. They shoot great and feel great(imo)

Btw Alex Fraige also goes by fresh eggs, eggs, scrambled eggs, Alex, L, Alexander... whatever and weighs 145 wet...

Imagine if they just skipped on the battery front grip and installed a picatinny rail there. So many options!

Love the shot and feel of the gun but agree with the value part wouldve like to see tooless eye overs grips lower feedneck and a better screen

excellent review, and totally agree. the gun is a catch 22 like you said, because it feels like a tank and the machining of the gun is absolutely flawless. but i also feel like the electronics remind me of an Ion, especially the dreaded ribbon wires and overly exposed board. also the bolt design is a major flaw.

im a huge fan of Bob Long guns. i was super sad to see the G6r fade out. i loved that gun soooo much. this is honestly the video i needed to see. im about to get back into the game and need a new gun. i was excited to see this gun being offered and knowing its retaining a lot of the bob long quality. however as you said, the value seems underwhelming for whats offered. the overall design also just seems lacking. its milling and visuals are just a little to simple. theres no doubt the gun shoot and preforms well. i just cant get behind spending that kinda money for this. hope their next gun steps it way up on over all design.

Rubber jaw channel lock pliers, and hockey tape. How I force turn anything without marring or wrecking finish etc. Few wraps of the tape, and grab with rubber jaws on the tape. Small rubber strap wench, whatever. They make tools for such work, but the hockey tape is kind of a fail safe.

Looks like a high end marker from 10 years ago but that's when I used to play so I kinda like it lol 😆

I totally agree. I love feild one, dont get me wrong, since Dynasty has been my favorite pro team since I first watched them play on T.V. back in '03, which is what inspired me and my friends to switch from years of playing in the woods only to playing speedball, and since the Bob Long markers have also been my favorites all along since I was introduced to them in '03 and my favorite team now owns and runs the B.L. product line, I do have a gigantic bias for their company's brand, but I have yet to save up for a new marker because, while the FORCE does offer some more up to date technology than my updated victory, I dont feel I can justify saving up that much money that doesn't have some of the features that exist on other new markers that I find would make life much easier than some of the shortcomings of my OLED'D VIS Engine'd V1. What changes t the force that would encourage me to pick one up are:, have toolless eyes and eye covers to make cleaning much quicker at the field should they get obstructed for whatever reason, and toolless grip panels. detent that have no chance of wearing out suddenly during play (I hate those old intimidator/spyder style rubber nubbin detents), and detents who's springs are not exposed when removing eye covers. Nothing more annoying than having to replace microscopic sized springs that spring to life when removing the eye covers. It would be just nice to see the detents and eyes that are built into the eye covers that many other new markers have. The rest of the marker I have no complaints about.

At the top end of the market it’s mind blowing to me how totally not tooless this is compared to the competitors. Luxe X, CS2, M3S are all completely tool free to change/charge battery, clean eyes, remove grips. This is like a gun from 2015, no chance.

I don’t even play paintball but you are like the morgan freeman of paintball

I personally think it looks cool. To each his own.

I am getting back into the sport after a 10 year break and I am trying to catch up with all the changes. How will this shoot compared to my Angel A1 Fly? So far I haven't found a reason to replace it.

Shouldn't really need a Vice grip unless someone goes bzerker mode tightening it. The Marq has a similar design for bolt removal and I used to get away with a jar/lid gripper and an Allen key.

Always watch your reviews.. I think of the force like a high end 4x4 pick up truck that could climb a tree but has manual roll up windows and you still have to get out and lock the hubs. Other than that it will run with anything.... So if you dont mind locking the hubs then..you got a brittle paint shooting sherman tank.

How do you not mention the Bob long autococker. The man has been top shelf since he built the shelf

Interesting

Sounds like a good gun but I’m sorry I’m a planet eclipse to the heart

Seems dumb to do sometimes but with what you said about your old defy paint, is there any paint that is "good" to stock up on during pro shop sales? One that I could keep around for a while until I burn through it all without having to buy new paint every time I play

Coming back to this review and I don't know, I think went a little down, but hindsight is 2020. It should be cheaper. I think their wins though, are kind of proving this review a little down. Great 1st gun. Will need to upgrade the bolt and go tool less but I think there's a market for them.

I wonder if a strap wrench would be a better alternative to a pair of locking pliers.

I feel like the vcom is better with the vis engine and the price difference is crazy

I really like the Z grip. Any thoughts?

The marker screams 2013. The bolt may be semi-innovative (unbelievable it isn't toolless) Foregrip seems gimmicky to me- the "short position" looks unusable. Pair that with the ribbon wire and 4 screws and it becomes a hassle. They could have done the batteries so much better. No tooless grips or eye covers. Agreed- cheap-looking electronics. This doesn't appear to do anything better than other offerings but comes with dated tech. Love the review!

PBRML merch review please!

Are they by chance going to to a make a mechanical version?

Здравствуйте, подскажите лучший механический маркер?

You ever still shoot the Force once in a while?

The adjustable grip is something I've hoped to see on a high end marker for a while but this is not how it should be done. Normal length or too short even for mini fanboys? Makes no sense. Also, why are ribbon wires still a thing?

The luxe is a much nicer gun the build quality is much better and the repair ability is much better also the engine is easier to service the person complaining about breaking paint should probably check the paint size and there barrel insert size that is probably why you broke paint because the luxe is extremely gentle on paint the luxe is also lighter by 8 to 10 ounces that doesn’t sound like much but it is definitely noticeable so in my opinion the luxe is a better more luxurious option

Hey brother do you recommend me any good barrel for a mini gs please tell me

12:25 hating on the DSR?

Made in the USA. Ill pay more for that. Support our economy!

can we get a shooting video

Nope you can get 9 plus pods out of planet eclipse guns

6 pods and a hopper out of a high end gun please I get 10 pods out of my planet eclipse guns

No

Yo, is this Brad from NorCal?

Sad, it Sounds so good when Shooting:/

A couple points, this marker isnt really based off of the Victory it's more based off of the Onslaught. Something to note about BL designs is that they have a break in period that's rather long. It will only shoot better as it gets used. BL markers usually will usually shoot better (sometimes remarkably better) with a little tuning, unlike most other markers these days. I love the ergonomics on the late BL markers. All the other companies are on this trend to stretch the marker out as far as possible, which is why I dont think I will ever use my CS2 again. The CS2 shoots great, but unless you have long arms it's not really ergonomic. One more thing when taking the bolt system apart it's not likely that you will actually need a vice grip. Depending on the part, there are a lot of tricks to getting it open easy.

A bolt that requires vise grips to disassemble? Is that a joke?

Ugly gun, but aside from that, loving to see that subscriber growth.

why has it always been popular to post guns resting on concrete or other abrasive surfaces

The "Force" is overpriced, should be at the same price level like a DSR/170R/XLS and there's no need to use u-cup seals..i mean..dlx and pe can built guns with regular seals and they shoot buttery smooth and consitent..

Am I the only one that thinks it looks cheap?

I don’t think it’s worth $1500…..my shocker amp shoots smoother.

They want way to much for what it is for sure

im selling mine

How I felt when I shot it, except i think its ugly compared Bob's designs

👎🏼👎🏼 love the tm40

The design really lets me down, it's so bland and boring. The resale on these are terrible as well, people are losing tons on them for a year old gun, seeing 1k all over the place on the BST. We know that Bob Long can really make some beautiful guns and I think they need to redesign this marker as well. I'm sure it's a solid performer but for me personally looks are huge in my world.

4 world cup wins later....

It’s kinda ugly honestly I’m sure they’ll figure that out

I'd rather just get an Etha 2 no disrespect

I don't understand what Field one was think with the design on this gun, it's literally the ugliest Bob long gun EVER! I want to love it but for that to happen it need a more Intimidator/Marq/Vcom look to it...

These markers aren’t worth 1000, let alone 1500.

6 pods and a hopper is less than 8 pods, thats dog shit efficiency, ices get 10 and cs2/x gets 12...not to mention its heavier than any otehr guns, louder than any other gun. It has no redeeming qualities imo

DSR better value

that gun looks like a 300$ rental gun.

Why your wife didnt iron yours shirt?

I'm sure it shoots great but IMO it's ugly and cheap looking.

First to watch and comment

The force is a $600 tops.... nobody is going to pay $1500 for it

Bob Long gun designs have always been that way. They require some kind of specialized tool or in this case Vise Grips lol to disassemble a part. Don’t buy one unless it’s going on a picture frame! Forget it. It’s overpriced to be in a frame

The force is kinda shit..

This thing looks ugly and cheap. Especially that front grip

Ugly, heavy, overpriced

The things is as ugly as a ion