Fair and thorough review! You went above and beyond your obligations to try to make this perform. Add up the ammo costs and whoo boy. You could have purchased a new rifle of another make that likely would have shot sub MOA with multiple loads -- cold and hot barrel. A hunting rifle must shoot a tight 3 shot group, the 2nd and 3rd striking within about 1/2" of the first on either extreme. One rarely gets or needs more than 3 shots when hunting. One even more rarely gets 2nd and 3rd shots 7 minutes after the previous shot!

Thanks for saving me the headache. Was very close to snagging this exact same rifle from my local shop.

Super clear and fair analysis! Really cool to see this breakdown and hunt for the problem!

Exactly the same experience with the Carbon CT Edge in 6.5 PRC. Only a handful of times shot as promised. The rest of the shots were wildly unpredictable. Threw all kinds of ammo at it, and noticed no difference. Sold it, never looked back. Thanks for the review. Very very comprehensive.

I had a Fierce, like I said had and I know of three other friends of mine that had issues with there's as well and they all sold they're rifles as well. I will never own another one and neither will they, I am glad you did this video.

Excellent honest review. You've done everything possible to rectify the issue at a large expense. I'd put a good quality barrel on it if everything else is okay on it All the best in getting it to shoot. Subscribed.

5:39 I've never heard of discounting the cold bore shot when measuring a group like this. That's not a 0.244 MOA group. It is really a ~1.3 MOA group. Lol. That's the secret the small groups (on a rifle that is a piece of junk), just ignore the shots you don't like. The fact they think that's acceptable for a $2000+ rifle is absolutely absurd. Thanks for letting us know. I will definitely steer clear of these clowns.

Thank u was planning to also get 300 win mag or 300 PRC saved me a headache thanks a punch good luck on your next purchase

I've gone back and forth on Fierce for the last 18 months. I've put multiple Fierce rifles on watch on gun broker but never ended up buying one. Thankfully I saw something recently where an individual (who would know) stated that Fierce is the next Christensen Arms, which is NOT good. I'll continue to keep getting rifle built or use a Tikka action to build something with. My custom Tikka was less than this Fierce, weighs less, and shoots half to quarter minute with 3 factory ammo so far.

Thanks much, you just saved me $2K because I had Fierce as one of my favorites for a purchase this year. I expect the rifle to shoot at same POI whether cold bore, clean bore, or fairly warm and fouled. I do have two rifles that shoot a little slow with a clean barrel, but still group well with all other shots. Very disappointing but very enlightening that Fierce actually sent you a target with a cold bore flyer as if that is okay. My guess is the rifle has a bedding problem.

This is not the way a manufacture should handle a problem. It's on them not you to remedy your complaint. It's not the fact that you had a problem with their product, it's how "Fierce" handled that problem. They "Fierce" failed miserably. I will not buy anything from them. Something tells me this isn't the first time this has happened. There are other manufactures that would be happy to sell you a good rifle. On the other hand, you did a fantastic job analyzing that rifles issues. Good luck!

Very interesting to see! I had similar issues with Christensen - the Mesa and Ridgeline - in 6.5CM. And funny enough, my buddy had a Ridgeline that we shot as well. We both shot each rifle, different factory loads, and we always got good groups with his, and we always had 1 flyer with both of mine. I got rid of both of those, switched to a Bergera in 6.5PRC, and it shoots good groups. I didn’t want to mess around with shipping them back and having them perform tests. I’m not a hand loader, so factory ammo needs to perform for me. And it didn’t perform. Time to move on. Thanks for your efforts putting this all together.

Just have a custom gun made on a Remington 700 action. When I did that, my world changed. If I’m spending 2k it will be on a custom rig. They just shoot everything good. If you want a long range rig, stay away from the thin profile barrels. Just my experience with guns since about 1970. I owned 3 custom guns and everyone shot good with any load. They just don’t have fliers like production guns but my barrels were a little on the heavy side. I hate pencil barrels because I went through the same thing you did. Waste of time, ammo and money. Also just shoot with a front rest and a bag or just sand bags at both ends. I hate sleds of any kind because you don’t use them hunting. Sleds also mask problems so we never learn to shoot better naturally. That is important when hunting. Sorry for the hassle you went through but it was a very good video. You really tried to make it shoot.

I bought one of the carbon barreled rifles from Fierce after the Western Hunting Expo this year and it’s no joke one of the best shooting rifles that I own. I’m really shocked that you are having all these issues. You definitely put the work in to try and figure out what the issue is.

I am in awe of your patience and willingness to chase the accuracy issue down to the granular level. I'm grateful that I have not purchased a Fierce rifle. I got a chance to look at several at a local dealer and quickly noticed the sloppy fit and finish to them. I have also read where their guns are consistantly inconsistant. One guy thinks they're great, the next is like you. I ended up buying an Allterra Arms Mountain Steel in 6.5 PRC. After shooting the heck out of it with ELD-X and my own handloads, I bought a Mountain Carbon in 7PRC. It shoots even better! Both are consistantly .25" moa, but they cost quite a bit more than a Fierce does. Maybe the old saying "you get what you pay for" could be true?

Thanks for the review on your rifle, I feel sorry for ya mate, with all the evidence why fierce just didn’t replace it or offer you a refund baffles me, hoping you much better luck with whatever you replace it with, subbed, cheers Yogi ✌️🇦🇺

Sorry to hear you are having these problems, I know exactly how it feels to have sunk so much time and ammo into one of these things to try and get it to perform reliably. Mine is the Mountain Reaper in 7PRC - an even more expensive model with the carbon fiber barrel and folding stock. The observation you made about barrel quality is definitely on point, my chamber looks like yours when scoped. I put 11 boxes of factory match and eldx that they claim the half MOA groups with.. I got 2 groups under 1 MOA. I started to hand load a few of them and groups shrunk a bit but still nowhere near what is sold as a half MOA rifle. On top of these issues that were consistent with yours, the extra money I spent for the folding stock ended up being an additional handicap. There is no way to eliminate the sloppy vertical movement in the locking mechanism, which introduces even more inconsistency when shooting and eventually starts to wear down getting even sloppier. As for 300PRC I went with Bergara - a known barrel manufacturer - and I have never had these problems and it cost a fraction of the price. Thanks for sharing!

Well done review with going the distance with due diligence to source the problem. That factory test target speaks volumes, possibly their barrel mfg stress relieving is inadequate

Last year I purchased the CT Rival FP in 300PRC. Was struggling to shoot under 1 MOA. After 100 rounds of Hornady ELDM ammo, started reloading with H1000 and tried Nosler 210ABLR, 215 Speer impact's and 212 ELDX. After 100 more rounds of reloaded ammo, I finally took it to a local Gunsmith, and he recommended bedding the stock as the action was sliding in the stock. after the bedding job, it consistently shot 1 MOA, even though it is a .5MOA Guarantee. Found some Nosler 200gr Accubond's, and now its shooting .25MOA. Was not easy, but at least it shoots good now.

thank you for your honesty

Would you ever be willing to test it again next winter to see if changes anything?

Glad I saw this. They were on my list of companies to buy from. I’ll be moving on.

Thanks for the video. A couple things to check: Fire 3 rounds no more than 30 seconds apart. Set the rifle down for 10 to 15 minutes. Fire another 3 rounds. That would be 3 rounds through an ambient barrel. If the second group is satisfactory I would start looking at the joint in the recoil lug area. I had this issue with a sub moa I had. I've never owned a fierce but I've troubleshot a couple for friends. Neither were bad but both consistently shot better groups from ambient barrels. Curious to hear.

Had a very similar issue with a European rifle manufacturer, they where terrible to deal with and the main importer into the UK was extremely hard to deal with. Never again and I feel your pain. Best thing is you will never deal with them again you have informed all us that watch KZfaq. Good on ye

The barrel manufacturers' stress relief (or lack thereof) after rifling plays a huge role in shots walking. Sorry to see your frustrating results. My guess is that if you had a good aftermarket barrel chambered and screwed on, that you would see significantly better results. My last 7 barrels have all been cut rifled (4 Barlein, 3 Krieger, and 1 Brux) and I have ZERO cold bore or thermal shift. Best of luck man, and I'm glad that this video is taking off on you.

Wow great video and really thorough analysis of the rifle. Thank you for taking all that time and effort to save us the heart ache of this. I will pass on Fierce rifles for now. On another note I have a CVA Cascade in 300 PRC and I love that thing. Maybe an option for you.

This is why 3 shot MOA guarantees from manufacturers are worthless. A rifle needs to be able to shoot 20-30 shots (with appropriate cooling) all under 1-1.5 inches to be sure it will perform at long range in the field. And the cold bore shots are the most important.

Absolutely awesome analysis. I would put a can on it, might change it dramatically

A good friend just sold his. Many, many issues. It was a carbon barrel. They replaced the barrel, and he could still not get it to zero. Multiple scopes and multiple scope mounts, different brakes, suppressor etc. NO combination of gear could make it work.

I learned many years ago, that I would shoot one shot, and I would wait a minute or two minutes, thin barrels seemed to move around when heated up from firing. A Browning X-Bolt in 6.5 Creedmoor.

Regarding going back and forth from a monolithic bullet to a jacketed bullet, what I can tell you is, I've been doing this a LONG time. I've determined that the need to clean to bare metal is a myth. Not once have I ever noticed it make a difference and I shoot a lot of round robin style groups. As far as cleaning to bare metal, no patch will tell you if this has occurred. Only a borescope will do that. After a deer season and probably 80 rounds through his 30-06 Browning, a buddy of mine cleaned his rifle until patches were coming out white. I showed him the bore with a borescope and he was far from bare metal. Black carbon fouling was still heavy and slight copper streaks on the lands. Thanks for posting this video. It is the last straw and an important piece of intel for me to not move forward with a Fierce rifle. I've had superior luck with cheap used Remington 700 actions that I used as a foundation to build something with a quality barrel like a Brux, Benchmark, K&P, Krieger, Bartlein, etc. Yes they cost more but still worth it Rem 700 used: $400 Blueprint: $200 avg Barrel: $400 Cut, crown, chamber, blast, thread: $350 to 500 Stock: as low as $325 carbon fiber Replacement trigger: $125 is what I just paid for Independence day Trigger Tech at 1.5 pounds Bed stock: $200 Bottom metal kit - floor plate ~ $229 $2300 roughly for a superior rifle

Ron Spomer in his 308 video series also showed groups will tighten up if you hold the front of the rifle.

I have to agree. When you spend that kind of money and the barrel looks like that? That's disappointing. I have Howas, Christensen MPR, Ruger Precision rifle Bergaras. The only rifle that shot consistently bad was the Howa stainless varmint 223 which I rebarreled. Definitely will not tolerate the quality in an expensive gun. The barrel should be hand lapped.

Hey KZfaqrs, my name is Cody. I am the customer service rep at Fierce Firearms that was corresponding with Hunting Dad on this rifle. Just wanted to share what was discussed from our point of view. The offer still stands that was presented to Hunting Dad. The offer that was presented, was to get the rifle in to our facility and check it out for any issues, on our dime. The first email I sent in response included a prepaid shipping label for Hunting Dad to use to send the rifle back in. The only point I wanted to make, is that we wanted the rifle in our possession to examine and test it before any decision was made. Once we had the rifle and was able to examine and test it, then we could have a conversation based on those results. I am still happy to work with Hunting Dad on his rifle, the label I sent is still valid and may be used to ship the rifle to us on our dime. Thanks

A few years ago I was looking for a new hunting rifle and the Fierce Mountain Reaper seemed like what I was looking for. Just a modicum of research on forums taught me to STAY AWAY FROM FIERCE. I went with a Bergara Mg Lite and never looked back.

I also had a fierce rifle with similar issues, I had a mtn reaper with a carbon barrel chambered in 6mm creedmoore. Was not satisfied with its accuracy, groups were all over the place. So you are not alone.

I was in the same boat with a Carbon Rogue in 300 PRC! I sent it twice and they never got it right! I shot 200+ shots between 1-2 barrels, I don’t trust them when they said they changed the barrel😂😂😂😂 I paid Short Action Customs to troubleshoot and fix it. They fixed it by skim bedding it and removing one of the ejector plungers. It now shoots .5-1 MOA groups with hand loads using Lapua brass, Match 215, 79.7 gr H1000, Badlands precision Bulldozer 195 gr and a COAL of 3.670. AVG is 3006 FPS in 97 degree weather. I still wouldn’t buy another Fierce. Seekins on the other hand is a great company to do business with.

Great review. You have been more than fair. I am in Australia and ordered and paid for a twisted rival in 7PRC over a year ago. It’s still not here. It’s apparently on its way. Man I hope I don’t have these problems but have heard enough of them to fear it’s not uncommon.

You could sell or replace the barrel. Personally, I would rather have a,Browning, Weatherby mark v, or a Sako. I've always preferred a short bolt throw. It's not needed, but it's preferred

Sorry for all inconvenience thanks for let know to the public the type of company .

With Fierce and Christensen what I’ve observed is this: They build a lot of guns overall. 95-99ish out of a batch of 100 are INCREDIBLE. Absolutely worth every dollar, and a huge step up from your standard brands. 1-5ish of that batch (I’m of course just picking numbers, what I’m getting at is the vast majority are great, a small percentage are REALLY bad) will be terrible. At the price point these rifles sell, that is not acceptable. If a rifle of this category is found to be unacceptable, the manufacturer should ABSOLUTELY handle it for you, not find reasons and technicality’s that they don’t “have” to.

I have a Carbon Rival in 6.5 PRC. It will not shoot under 1.25” at 100 yards. But- I can shoot under 2” at 500 & 4.5” at 1000. I’m no ballistician but I wonder if these long high BC projectiles need more time to stabilize than 100 yards of flight time. Just a thought.

Almost got one glad I didn’t cause of the bad reviews I’ve seen, got a bagara carbon instead and shoots great. Good luck and happy hunting

Do you know the steel alloy they use on their barrels? I am wondering if they are cheaping out on the materials or using a material that hasn't been tested for this application. Seems like a used Remington 700 for $500 is a better option than this $2,000 gun.

This is wild this video Popped up on my feed …about a year ago I decided to get into a fierce rifle , it seems like a good deal for the price ..2 lug bolt , carbon stock , carbon barrel . Soon as I received the rifle the first thing I noticed was the fit and finish was horrendous, nothing like the pictures ..air bubbles in The carbon fibre , shitty paint job that u could feel was rough , barrel contour was rough where the metal met the carbon fibre , then I start working on some hand loads , I had the same issues as you .. I tried all sorts of different powders , primers , brass and factory ammo , it didn’t like anything , worst shooting rifle iv ever owned . One other thing I thought was insulting if you ever watch any of their videos on KZfaq the main guy who I’m guessing is the owner literally muzzles people with his barrel in every single video , u wanna buy a product from a guy like that ? He can’t even hunt safe .. u think any quality control goes into their product ?

If you haven’t sold that gun yet. Get a tuner break. I have a 700 in 300 win mag I switched everything on it and tried 10 different factory loads. Found out the barrel can have bad harmonics. To test this I got a sims rubber tuner and that helped a lot. I came across Erik cortonas video series on the needmoors and he just put his tuner break on it and it solved a lot of the issues you have. I put one on that rifle and I went from 3 inch groups to under an inch. Saw the rifle is threaded so try that

Jim was talking about copper bullets

That is a bedding issue all day long. I've worked on 4 of these guns ball 4 had bedding problems.

I had one in a 300 Rum and it shot awesome for me. Groups in the .2 .3 easy. It was the carbon barrel. Sucks that it won't shoot. You would be money ahead to have a Bartlein or Brux barrel installed.

I’m glad I bought a Weatherby Mark V now.

I bought one of their rifles last year. One of the biggest mistakes I ever made. After purchasing the rifle I noticed after firing the rifle the recoil would cause the safety to engage and not a lot me to operate the bolt. I contacted fierce they replaced the safety. Once I got the rifle back I started shooting again and immediately more issues arose, the rifle wouldn’t hold a group much like the rifle in this video, and my gun would fail to eject shells. I had to almost pry on the bolt to make it eject. After following Cody’s instructions on how to solve the ejection issues, there was no change. It still failed to eject the spent casing, with no improvement on accuracy despite trying many different powders, bullets, and grains, even different brass. Sent it back to fierce a second time and they said they fixed the “ extractor”. Once I got the rifle back, i ended up selling the rifle as I could no longer trust the rifle to function properly while hunting. I would not recommend any fierce rifle to anyone.

Fierce Rifles: Established 2014. LOL There’s your answer. All kidding aside, yes some some barrel manufacturers are more temperature sensitive than others, especially thin barrels not engineered correctly.

I had a Fierce Carbon as well that shot terrible. I sent it back to them after they blamed the scope which I also sent back to Leupold. Leupold stated no issues and Fierce stated it shot great and sent me a target. I bought the ammo they used to shoot the target and immediately it shot almost 3 MOA when my other rifles shoot 1-.5 MOA. I even waited 10 min between shots with their rifle to let the barrel cool down as much as I could to give it a chance. They are not worth the money.

When troubleshooting it is wise to challenge your assumptions. Are you certain that the lead sled is not contributing to your dispersion? In your footage there is a lot of muzzle jump… your fore end is jumping right off of the support and that flimsy table is all over the place man! You might want to consider trying a support system that reduces muzzle jump… a lightly preloaded bipod laying prone with a good rear bag might be worth a try. Cheers!

Were they notthe one that sent out a rifle without any rifling a year ago?

Hey, who doesn’t like shooting cloverleafs at 100… that is always a good thing. BUT… IMO shooting dots at 100 is overrated for most practical hunting scenarios especially with light weight factory magnums. Also, there is an order of magnitude more meaning in a 6rd group compared to a 3rd group. If you are investing 9 rounds anyways in 3- 3rd groups why not stack all 9 onto one target with cooling between each 3rd volley and then calculate the mean radius of the 9rd group? This will reveal way more insight into performance than chasing little cloverleafs… and… it will give you a good mean point of impact to feed into your ballistic solver for subsequent long range testing. If the 9rd group fits inside of a 2” diameter you are seriously golden for big game hunting. Then go shoot a 10” steel plate at 400yds. A rifle that performs as described above on a calm day can slay that plate at that distance consistently… but… will not be able to produce ½” cloverleafs at 100. If your goal is groups at 100 I totally get it, but if your goal is slay the beast, it is entirely possible that you are chasing your tail a bit. I have more than one rifle that posts mediocre 1.5” 5rd groups at 100 whilst performing admirably on steel at ranges all the way out to 800m. Farting around with 3rd groups at 100 is dead to me now… been there, done that, wasted tons of ammo. But shhhh… I still get a little moist when 3 are touching… and that’s ok… don’t hold it against me. 😂 BTW… wild ass flyers are concerning… I am with you there. A rifle that posts mediocre groups with reliable repeatable consistency is a good hunting rifle… but if you are throwing wild flyers on the regular it is impossible to achieve confidence. Cheers! Good job with all that diligent testing.

I have heard both good and bad things about Fierce. Those that end up with good copies of the rifles swear by them, but there are other situations like yours that seem to indicate that their quality control may not be up to the task, particularly for their price point. For most of us, dropping $2K or more on a rifle is a big deal. Having such a purchase not turn out would be a nightmare.

the gun company really dropped the ball on this you should have gotten a full refund along with an apology fierce is a junk company thanks for the warning

I had one of their CT Rages in 6.8 western. had multiple issues including 1.5 Moa groups, returned the rifle and waited months to get it back. during that time I had exchanged emails with John mogle where he admitted that half of the 6.8 westerns they put out won't shoot half MOA as their guarantee states. This was wild and also my evidence to win the credit card dispute. The whole process was a headache and extremely disappointing. Just lucky I got my money back. 1/10 would not reccomend.

That table is not stable 😢

I own a 7mm prc fierce rage carbon. It will shoot half inch like yours. Factory and hand loads. The cold bore shot is always an inch away. The other four will be in a half inch. But the way it shoots that if I let it cool down and clean after every group. Like to talk about it to get it off my chest. I thought I was crazy till I run into your video.

After reading the comments it looks like you are not alone as well as I am not alone. I have the CT rival in 300 prc and have had all the same issues. Using hornady ammo I could not get anything close to 1moa. let alone .5. I spent a year testing with reloads and never got close to the .5moa. I decided to go to the factory in UT and the shooting school so I could show them the issues and see if they could show me that it was not the gun. They were not interested in helping me, and it might have been because some of the other guys at the school were having bigger issues than I was. I never did get any help with getting to .5 moa. After another 6 months of testing it seems I have a load that is sub 1moa but not .5. After listening to one of Johns podcast he made the statement that most people cant shoot a .5 moa but you never tell a guy he cant shoot. Gave me the impression that they think its the shooter and not the gun. Thanks for posting this as its a little bit of a releif that I am not alone with this issue but also a bit of a dissapointment that I am not alone.

I have basically the same rifle but with a carbon barrel in 7 PRC and it's doing very similar things. You have helped convinced me to send it down the road and get something that shoots. I've talked to Fierce and feel by using their "warranty" is just throwing more money at a problem I shouldn't be having. Sometimes learning is expensive and I'm probably going to trade it off and take the beating. I had high hopes and I like the rifle but if it won't shoot it's worthless.

Was thinking of getting a mini rogue in 22 creed..... now imma wait for more reviews on Fierce rifles

I had the same experience with a Bergara B-14 HMR in 308. It didn't shoot was wildly is this rifle did but I was getting ~1.5-2.0 MOA 5-shot groups with the factory ammo they recommended and ~1.2 MOA 5-shot groups with the best handload I could work up for it. I sent it to Bergara twice. The first time they just fired a couple of 3-shot groups through it and returned it without even telling me it was coming back. I was away and had to pay the courier to hold it. The 2nd time they recrowned it and returned it with rust all over the bolt and inside the barrel. It shot just as poorly as ever. I asked for a refund since they had caused my gun to rust. I even had borescope footage of the barrel right after I got it back which showed the rust was coming through the crap they left in the barrel (They clearly hadn't even run a single cleaning patch down the barrel after test firing it.). They told me I was a liar and was making up the fact they caused the gun to rust. They also swore up and down that they had cleaned the gun which clearly wasn't the case. Anyway, I also cut my losses and sold that hunk of junk. Since then I got a Tikka CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor. That gun averages ~0.5 MOA for 5-shot groups with just about every bullet I've tried in it. So, in the end, some good came out of it. I learned just how amazing Tikka rifles are.

Had exact same issues with the carbon barrel version. Stock wasn’t even spot bedded.. Had a smith fully bed action and still shot like shit. Ended up adding an ec-tuner break just to get it to shoot 1moa… my $200 budget rifles outshoot this fierce..

I won't exactly say I'm a bolt gun snob, because from my collection I am very clearly not. But I am a stickler for precision and long range shooting. I've always done 5 shot groups, with the expectation that there was going to be some kind of repeatable dispersion. The dispersion was going to be from the first shot to the last, not from the first shot to the second, WTF? You know, you did the statistical analysis and proved your point. Never heard of Fierce before this, and look forward to not hearing their name in the future.

Wow, what a PR disaster for Fierce. Give the man his money back.

Watching you shoot from your bench it was moving all over the place from recoil and that affects accuracy a great deal. A shooting bench must be completely stable with no movement.

I wish you had bore scoped it after you cleaned it a lot.

Good evening. Just a thought... could you post a side by side of you shooting the problematic rifle and the 6.5cm together. I did notice that your shooting bench moves like a mother-flower with the recoil from your rifle. Just a thought. Happy hunting

Hey buddy, It's not just the steal barrels. I bought a carbon rival in 28 Nosler and had the same troubles. I sent my gun back three times. They told me that the cold bore is not counted in the group. I ended up bedding the action and that seemed the help a little bit. i ask for my money back also with no luck.

I have a Fierce and it's a rival but it is in a carbon barrel and it does the same thing you cannot get it to shoot does it no matter what ammo you shoot through it first rival 300 prc is junk

After this I would never by from this company. You done a great job on this video.

I'm a nut when it comes to researching products before I buy. All of the semi custom rifles available in my area that were competing with the Fierce Rogue CT seemed to have similar issues (weatherby and christensen). It's really frustrating that mfg won't stand behind their products. Doing it again I'd buy sako, browning or build a custom. I was lucky my 7mm prc rogue is ammo picky but shoots well. I may have a minor headspace issue, as I do get light to moderate pressure signs from factory hornady ammo.

My fierce rifle shoots exactly the same..like garbage!! getting rid of it and getting a custom built rifle that is worth a damn.. fierce, makes trash rifles, nowadays

Im interested in gettinf an Antler Arms. They used to make the high end fierce rifles before they had a falling out of sorts. Only available in Canada but should be free from these issues.

And I will never spend that kind of money on a fierce again.

I have owned 2 Fierce rifles, they are 2 hrs from my home, and I won't buy another. Not what they claim. Great marketing but unfortunately poor quality. You can contact a good gun smith and have one built for less that shoots true .5" moa with HL's. Companies like Christensens and Fierce make the consumer believe they are getting a high end rifle at a deal, when in reality they are not.

First and foremost >Have the action bedded . Second > scrap the flimsy bench. Third >Try Hornady Eld-x .

I had a fierce about 5 years ago, in 30-378 Weatherby. It would not shoot consistently. They played the same game with me, so I took it to a gunsmith, to rebarrel it. He refused and told me the action was junk and that it had a bad design in the way of action lug or lack there of. So I sold it and lost money on it. Don't know if they changed the design on the recoil lug, but your sound like it was doing the same thing my was. I will never buy another rifle from them again.

I’ve done some research and generally Button rifled barrels tend to be more picky. Side note Styr, Ruger, Tikka and Sako use cold hammer forged barrels. They seem to be more consistent. I’d like to see you drop $600 and try the Ruger American Gen 2.

I wish you posted this four months ago. Sadly I bought the same model with same caliber. It have the same problem. I tried everything like you did. It still shoot like shit. I live in canada. Customer service? Forget about it 😂😂😂

All firece get your money back talk to john. I.would not hunt with it sell it by seekins

I was going to try Fierce in the 300 PRC and my friends talked me out of it. I went with a Browning Hells Canyon that shoots lights out. Later I went into a Cabelas and looked at the supply of Fierce rifles they had for sale. Each rifle had different blemishes in the stock. One had a 1/2 inch crack near the tip. Plus they look hand made! And when I say hand made I mean the craftsmanship is impeccably poor at best!

Ive heard a few stories similar to yours here in Australia Some guys have also moved them on as they wont shoot. Better building a true custom rifle for not much more. in my opinion for sure.

I agree that you went above and beyond, certainly what I would have done. I do agree the barrels looked unusual for new. I can’t speak for their barrels or rifles but I have built many rifles with barrels from known barrel companies that are hand lapped after production and all of them turned out to shoot sub MOA or better and were nearly devoid of tool marks. My one question is why did you not take their offer of free return shipping so they could examine the rifle before you negotiated a resolution with them? You’re going to take a big hit selling it as used, especially if the buyer scopes the bore. Leaving it sit gets you nothing. Your time money and ammo, so you choice but in my opinion you have nothing to lose.

You did not investigate the mechanical issues other than the scope ? Barrel should be verified for torque - remove and retorque barrel and action to stock..bedding ? Myself I would have returned it…

This was a great and !FAIR! report of your experiences, well done. I think this is a bad move on Fierce, as they will surely loose more sales than the cost of replacing your rifle.

I’m really sorry for your misfortune. You have went way beyond what you should have to do with a rifle like this. I have shot a few rifles that do this mainly brownings hells canyon and a couple light weight rifles barrel profiles. Sounds stupid but I put a $20 deresonator by limb saver on the barrel and it worked on all of them. The light barrels just seem to have to much harmonics. Good luck and I hope it helps for what you have went through.

Hey, if you're considering keeping the rifle n persisting with improving accuracy consistency then try a barrel tuner... EC Barrel Tuner... Eric Cortiner from Cortiner PERCISION has his own Chanel...worth checking out.

I have a couple fierce, and edge ti from when they first started that model and a ct rival. The edge is one of the most accurate rifles I have had, but the finishing work was crap. The rival is also temp sensitive, but not nearly as bad as in the video. I heard they use a mcgowen barrel, which is ok but it is def not a top tier barrel. And it’s button rifled which can def have stress issues with temp changes.

Good video, stick with Weatherby Rifles. Glad I saw this video.

i almost ordered one

What company thinks a cold bore shot that far away from the second or third shot is acceptable in any way. There is a reason i stayed away from Fierce and some other companies. should have went with a Seekins. their customer service is stupid good compared to any others i have ever encountered. Sell it and buy a Seekins

Got a safe full of sako's and all shot under one inch right out of the box no matter what ammo.

I bought a 3 lug carbon rage last year. First round i chambered broke the extractor. every second round bound up after I paid to have it fixed. It shot but it was a piece I flipped it as soon as I could. Re-barreled a tikka myself with a proof barrel and it makes my smile every time i pull the trigger.

ahhhhh was that you at the factory?

Take it to a good Smith have it remarried with a quality barrel.I don't believe passing on a problem to someone else is right.

All you have to do is read their reviews and you will run the other way.