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Fight for AmaZulu crown

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Newzroom Afrika

Newzroom Afrika

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A faction of the royal family has traditionally crowned Prince Simakade Zulu, as the AmaZulu King.
This is despite other members of the family and government officially recognising his brother, King Misuzulu kaZwelithini, as the monarch.
Cultural expert, Prof. Velaphi Mkhize, weighs in on developments.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika channel 405 for more.

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@angiyikuswela
@angiyikuswela 2 жыл бұрын
The Great King Sigidi (Chaka) was never appointed by his father the Chief Senzangakhona. King Chaka had to kill his brother Sgujana who was appointed by Chief Senzangakhona. In turn the very same Shaka was murdered by Dingane then Dingane by...etc so let's not talk about RIGHTFUL KINGS here. The survival of the fittest is the King.
@thatom7131
@thatom7131 2 жыл бұрын
stop interfering on Zulu matter lepedi kwena
@sibongileviolet887
@sibongileviolet887 2 жыл бұрын
Whose Chaka manje
@winnieo4968
@winnieo4968 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatom7131 don't mind the idiot! They are the dictators that end up being terrors to others. I am happy he mentioned how this one and that one was killed, this will be the bane of all these blood thirsty idiots. #Shamelessfools
@Que970
@Que970 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most Zulu solution I have seen for this situation. Bayede mfo ka Nkadimeng. 🙌🏾🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Que970
@Que970 2 жыл бұрын
@@sibongileviolet887 it's Chaka Kahn 🤣🤣🤣🥴
@ephraimnathi5603
@ephraimnathi5603 2 жыл бұрын
Prof Mkhize just gave out a sound explanation. He has depth and he is neutral to the matter. Western Law vs Isintu/African law (Simakade). Simakade has a heart and spirit of a King man; he was ready to set us free from the Queen of England.
@manayesh
@manayesh 2 жыл бұрын
Now i know why our zulu kingdom was eventually defeated by the British and why Shaka predicted this. It's because Shaka had done the right thing by taking the throne from Sgujana coz Shaka was the rightful king since he was born to an Elangeni princess. Then Dingane killed Shaka for the throne. Thats when the zulu kingdom took a downward spiral that ended up to the complete defeat by the British and afrikaners. Now Smakade is doing what dingane did to Shaka.
@nellie2mkhize608
@nellie2mkhize608 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with him on that...👀
@melwayinkosimagubane6883
@melwayinkosimagubane6883 Жыл бұрын
yididi lelo olikhulumayo wena nja wazini ngozulu wena
@MrSihle1
@MrSihle1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Prof. I value your analysis on traditional matters... thank you sir
@mlungisikhumalo3054
@mlungisikhumalo3054 2 жыл бұрын
even if Kīng misauzulu was to vanish tomorow smakade stands no chance indlovukazi had other sons whom can ascend to the throne.simakade said in so many videos that hes not interested in the throne even mentioning being warned,he said he didnt want to die,,,,clearly the man is drunk and confused
@sodumomasondo8995
@sodumomasondo8995 2 жыл бұрын
Uyihlabe es'khonkosini bab'Mkhize
@mndenimalibongwe2241
@mndenimalibongwe2241 2 жыл бұрын
Lobaba unamanga, INkosana is a son born after a wedding or rather by a wife who then after marry. INkosana isn't a first born son of a Man. If it happens that a Man have two sons:, the first born son, with his mother not getting married and the second born son given birth after marriage, even if he's a month old. The latter is INkosana and the former is Izibulo or ingane endala.
@thokozanidludlu7627
@thokozanidludlu7627 2 жыл бұрын
À
@lindasamuels9168
@lindasamuels9168 2 жыл бұрын
True simakate what what is a bustard
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
Inkosana is the first born as far as I know as well. So what if the man never marries, that means he will never have inkosana even though he has kids. That makes no sense.
@mndenimalibongwe2241
@mndenimalibongwe2241 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysticman9331 let's enlighten you a bit. If ushone ungaganiwe awnayo INkosana even if you have 100 kids. Uneyngane nje. Abasele after ukushona they can pay damages for those kids and bazithenge zikhishwe omalume bazo zamukelwe abafowenu/obaba bakho. Then ke those children sebeyoqhuba igama lakho but all of them ayikho INkosana coz wena wawngashadile nomama babo. Let me ask you a question which will show you. What if your first born son uythole kumuntu osenengan nomunye umuntu? INkosana leyo? INkosana aylami ingane yakomunye umuzi. The condition of ukuzala INkosana ngokwesintu is that kufanel izalwe umuntu oqale ngawe ukulala nomuntu and after umshado. People abakufunike lokho ngeke ushade muntu oselale nabantu abaw 100 bes uthi uzokuzalela INkosana. INkosana ihamba nokuhlambuluka kwaNkosikazi, ezalukazini zakulelo khaya ezagana ziphelele.
@sabelomajola7221
@sabelomajola7221 2 жыл бұрын
@@mndenimalibongwe2241 eeii washaya khona mtakaMkhulu😂✌
@nicholasgigaba2779
@nicholasgigaba2779 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh this is madness 😠 I can smell blood spilling here already 👀 2 Zulu king at the same time
@mabonya2917
@mabonya2917 2 жыл бұрын
Correction VVO.... Heir to throne nit appointed by the Family but by the culture and traditions....almost automatically by birthright
@thobanichiliza934
@thobanichiliza934 2 жыл бұрын
Zulu became a king because Gumede wasn't fit for the throne, Sgujana was a king through culture and tradition.
@mxolisiinnocent1995
@mxolisiinnocent1995 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis by Prof. I must say I am very worried the future on the Ingonyama Trust at the moment. Promises on politicians will only last till the elections
@thozamatebele1115
@thozamatebele1115 2 жыл бұрын
Prof must take out that word *elected* out of his vocab when his talking about this. A king is not elected but Born and the mother of the king is of Royal blood. Even if Shaka killed his brother to ascend to the throne, The rightful heir is still known.
@tela6589
@tela6589 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. This Professor is confused. Even Shaka was the King that does not mean he was the correct king. He might've been the king wrongly and ruled with a fist...
@Inkothololo
@Inkothololo 2 жыл бұрын
Lento ekhulunywa ngesingisi izosiza bani? Kukhulunywa namaNgisi, namambuka kulenkulumo. Okwakithi koBantu okukona loku.
@tela6589
@tela6589 2 жыл бұрын
Ehee. Lesisingesi lesi siyabheda. Uzothola ukuthi umuntu akasezwa lutho okufanele...
@inkazimuloApostle
@inkazimuloApostle 2 жыл бұрын
VVO is wrong. Shaka usurped Sigujana ligitimately. Why? Sigujana was not born of Royal mother, the Ntulis. Whereas, Shaka was born of royal matrineal blood, the Elangeni Kingdom. So Shaka was the purest candidate for the Senzangakhona seat.
@mncwaben
@mncwaben 2 жыл бұрын
No uShaka naye waye uMlanywana. Remember uNandi akashadanga kaZulu
@sabelomajola7221
@sabelomajola7221 2 жыл бұрын
@@mncwaben false
@SiphamandlaNgubane-ic8gf
@SiphamandlaNgubane-ic8gf 22 күн бұрын
King Simakade Ka Zwelithini (King of the Zulu Tribe)
@simphiwepercival2068
@simphiwepercival2068 2 жыл бұрын
King Shaka bhuti his mother's kingdom was undermined, so Shaka deserved to fight for the kingdom as he had two royal bloods but not Sigujana. I was going to fight as well if was in his position. Elangeni Kingdom was suppose to be given respect by the Zulu King ( Senzangakhona ) and Zulu royal elders.
@gloriatshabalala2847
@gloriatshabalala2847 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Dingiswayo of the Mthethwa tribe for assisting Nodum'ehlezi to be king.
@phakamanimlotshwa4246
@phakamanimlotshwa4246 10 ай бұрын
am very disappointed by the fact that a man like Prof VVO Mkhize would not clarify the issue between iNkosana and INdlalifa to be born first does notmake you inkosana
@matsobanenyatlo8859
@matsobanenyatlo8859 Жыл бұрын
Traditional leader is not appointed . Mother is married by that nation. After marriage first born boy attomatically that son will lead his fathers nation
@nellie2mkhize608
@nellie2mkhize608 2 жыл бұрын
No Khabazela, No....Simakade remains the prince and King Misuzulu ka Zwelithini remains the rightful heir of the Throne...please don't tongue twist the truth this please Khabazela 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 you sound like you already taking sides here...but being diplomatic about it 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️
@ntombi3171
@ntombi3171 2 жыл бұрын
Hayi namhlanje u Dr angimuzwa ukuthi uthini🙆‍♀️ ! 180⁰ turn 🤞
@menziphakathi9968
@menziphakathi9968 2 жыл бұрын
uKhabazela remains adamant in his stance that king MisuZulu is the chosen and rightful king while prince Simakade has the first born son's rights as inkosasa. Inkosasa doesn't mean he will be king it only means he is a first born son. A chosen hire is will be king. Indlalifa, undlala ifa endlalela abantwana.
@thobanichiliza934
@thobanichiliza934 2 жыл бұрын
The nice thing about facts is they don't look at feelings and desires
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
You are also taking sides. Both sides are right.
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
@@menziphakathi9968 inkosana means the small king who will become the big king once the main king is no more. Smakade has been appointed because of that. I am not saying that is right or wrong I am stating why he has been made king as well.
@mcsiemtetua1037
@mcsiemtetua1037 2 жыл бұрын
Mnxm manje uchazela ubani lobaba ngesingisi
@mncwaben
@mncwaben 2 жыл бұрын
Uyabheda nje uSimakade ayikho lento yakhe
@michamash
@michamash 2 жыл бұрын
Shaka Zulu was an illegitimate child, remember that. Learn Zulu history if you don’t know.
@mncwaben
@mncwaben 2 жыл бұрын
@@michamash but ingenaphi indaba yeLembe la You out of order my brother
@michamash
@michamash 2 жыл бұрын
@@mncwaben Facts are stubborn mfowethu Shaka killed his brother to be on the throne and he was also killed by his brothers. Simakade is the elder brother, and he is being sidelined because his mother did not come from Royalty, it’s a technicality. Contestation of the Zulu monarch throne is not new.
@mncwaben
@mncwaben 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but the biggest challenge here is that there is no law or Custom which clarity or indicate as to who should be the King, and the Zulu Nation at large does not have right to elect or to choose a King.
@mncwaben
@mncwaben 2 жыл бұрын
And my brother remember Shaka was born out of marriage
@zolelamagaqa8593
@zolelamagaqa8593 Жыл бұрын
Nkinga lapha Smakade nihlambalaza uBaba wenu nomdeni wonke wakwaZulu
@tela6589
@tela6589 2 жыл бұрын
This Professor is confused. Even Shaka was the King that does not mean he was the correct king. He might've been the king wrongly and ruled with a fist...
@Sp8e
@Sp8e 2 жыл бұрын
Syabonga bab uMkhize, the article that bab Mkhize is mentioning here could open too many peoples eyes about inconsistencies in throne acsension even dating back to the 2 sons of Malandela u Zulu no Qwabe to Ushaka nabafowabo. We’ve seen worse even where someone whose not even a blood son of the king, an adopted kid becomes an indlalifa simply on the grounds that he is fit for it. People must not be emotional, Misuzulu is an inkosi a but it doesn’t automatically make him an indlalifa. Indlalifa is anyone that royal family deems fit for the job. We should not begin to think ramaphosa has a right to throne the king, WTF 🤬??
@tela6589
@tela6589 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are confused. Even if Shaka was the King that does not mean he was the correct king. He might've been the king wrongly and ruled with a fist...
@siphomogale779
@siphomogale779 2 жыл бұрын
As human beings we must always fight for power until the strong wins , courts , politics and culture have also taken over
@karthi7016
@karthi7016 2 жыл бұрын
There must be laws/cultural policies regarding succession to a crown.... Zulu kings were around forever.
@ellenmalunga6237
@ellenmalunga6237 2 жыл бұрын
This man has no idea what his talking about,king Misuzulu is the king and already on the throne and cannot be dethroned Sma is just shooting his shot
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 2 жыл бұрын
Would you spell it as "hes" instead of "his" if we allowed you to drop entirely the use of an oxford comma?
@thobanichiliza934
@thobanichiliza934 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering where are you taking your information from since history is telling a different story.
@ellenmalunga6237
@ellenmalunga6237 2 жыл бұрын
@@thobanichiliza934 it's evident that I know about my history, if you knew yours than you will know why Shaka had that chance and why Sma doesn't qualify,it's up to you to brush up on your history
@nommiem1059
@nommiem1059 2 жыл бұрын
Isilo asakabekwa. The government has no say
@mlondibiyela2203
@mlondibiyela2203 2 жыл бұрын
Kusobala umlando uwufunde phansi,awuwazi ngoba ubuzwe ukuthi ubani inkosi but usichazela into esiyaziyo
@t.smoabi8947
@t.smoabi8947 2 жыл бұрын
Democracy Happened'U can't kill this to do that and be killed by those to be killed by these"
@shadrackmosetlhi7043
@shadrackmosetlhi7043 2 жыл бұрын
Now this in fighting is beginning to confused us
@tela6589
@tela6589 2 жыл бұрын
Are you Zulu? If not, stay outside of it...
@hlengiwembambo3572
@hlengiwembambo3572 Жыл бұрын
Waze wahhuma umkhize ayikho inkosana ezalwa out of wedlock Jesus!
@londiwengcamu34
@londiwengcamu34 2 жыл бұрын
Ubiza u Prince Mangosuthu Buthelezi ngo King Mangosuthu Buthelezi, usugeje kwalapho baba uMkhize. Ake ubuke amaphepha e report ye commission eyathunyelwa u Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma ufunde khona konke okushoyo ukuthi ku consulthwe kobani ebese uphinda uphawula
@sandilemsani2124
@sandilemsani2124 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was deliberate
@gloriaberger7570
@gloriaberger7570 10 ай бұрын
Was Simakade mother married. If not that means that in Zulu if iam a girlfriend to any King or Prince I can just bring my son to be a King or first Prince even if my son is born out of wedlock
@sparkle7670
@sparkle7670 2 жыл бұрын
Are these two kings living in close in proximity to each other?
@victormkhaliphi2778
@victormkhaliphi2778 2 жыл бұрын
Which 2 Kings? Simakade is a prince. King Misuzulu ka Zwelithini ka Bekhuzulu ka Solomon ka Dinuzulu ka Cetshwayo kaMpande. Bayede!!!
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they do. Nongoma is a small town.
@esimahlenimkhize3700
@esimahlenimkhize3700 2 жыл бұрын
Khabazela
@musadlamini3054
@musadlamini3054 2 жыл бұрын
I'm confused seriously who is really the Zulu King?
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
At this stage both are kings. The other has more supporters than the other. The other is monied the other is broke. 😀😀😂
@nofikagwanya3739
@nofikagwanya3739 2 жыл бұрын
That is why Caain killed his brother and Shaka was killed by his brother just like you see a Cartoon movie of Lion King! Every sons of King Zwelethin want to be a King! Smakade should go to other village and be a King!
@ntsakobalow4807
@ntsakobalow4807 2 жыл бұрын
Asking wrong people ask the queen of 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 whose the king these are her Sons
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
Ramaphosa has no say in who becomes the king that argument does not hold water. This matter needs to be resolved by the Royal Family alone. Shenge you have done enough but for the sake of peace please stay out of this issue now. Whoever becomes the king eventually he needs to have a buy in of the Royal Family. At the moment Misuzulu does not have that buy in and that does not look good for his kingdom.
@genesisnzama1693
@genesisnzama1693 2 жыл бұрын
VVO usikhulumela inonsense akahambe no Simakade wakhe ukhuluma ngezinto zakwakhe lo!
@dennisfakude7224
@dennisfakude7224 2 жыл бұрын
Yabheda lobaba yasinyela
@minenhlehlophe2862
@minenhlehlophe2862 2 жыл бұрын
King Simakadesamakhosi KaZwelithini🙏
@mafungwase8072
@mafungwase8072 2 жыл бұрын
Cha, wena udakiwe impela.
@mafungwase8072
@mafungwase8072 2 жыл бұрын
@@minenhlehlophe2862 silima esilimele.
@mafungwase8072
@mafungwase8072 2 жыл бұрын
@@minenhlehlophe2862 golo yile phuza face yakho dodi. MisuZulu uyena Nkosi not lomkhulu wakho okhathele.
@mafungwase8072
@mafungwase8072 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@mafungwase8072
@mafungwase8072 2 жыл бұрын
@@minenhlehlophe2862 Sesibonga yona i-High self esteem yakho sichitho
@icilongolobukhosi2927
@icilongolobukhosi2927 Жыл бұрын
UNgunezi usenguMengameli! Wobani, wezinyanga? Kunzima e-RSA!
@lelom7999
@lelom7999 2 жыл бұрын
News people will spread negativity be careful they are enemies
@9m9ify
@9m9ify 2 жыл бұрын
leopard in the kraal will solve this impass...it will kill the coward.
@saamstaan6540
@saamstaan6540 2 жыл бұрын
How long is the fight going to last? All 12 rounds you think?
@thabaniwonder2276
@thabaniwonder2276 2 жыл бұрын
This not fight this madness bcoz the truth is known, if you are zulu u know very well that who is successor
@siphomogale779
@siphomogale779 2 жыл бұрын
@@thabaniwonder2276 who is the successer
@thabaniwonder2276
@thabaniwonder2276 2 жыл бұрын
@@siphomogale779 is king misuzulu he is successor
@thabaniwonder2276
@thabaniwonder2276 2 жыл бұрын
He was now he is da king of zulus
@sibongileviolet887
@sibongileviolet887 2 жыл бұрын
USimakade udakiwe xem
@charlessimelane7678
@charlessimelane7678 Жыл бұрын
why kungalungiswa umkhuba lah. Shaka was not a rightful King. He killed for the throne while He was born outside marriage. But came back claiming Power as an elder. it was after Chaka every every king must be born by a woman who is the Princes, since, like Chaka's MOM who Father was a King so she was a princes. While before it was not the customary way of doing things. umkhuba lo kwakumele ulungiswe from the first. is it usiko lwabantu or umthetho wenkosi? if umthetho ka Chaka cha we are lost. Chaka was not Eleceted by His Father Senzangakhona He Killed for Kingship and Chaka implemented rule of law that only by a Princess a King is Born umkhuba loyo . umkhuba we Gazi and ukuzenzela komthetho Mkhuba. and KwaZULU was a place we are called by a place we not amaZULU as a Tribe. we are abaNtu amanguni.
@curiousk4083
@curiousk4083 2 жыл бұрын
In this case, let this two gentlemen be allowed to fight to death. Who so ever will be alive will be our King, it's a Zulu tradition. Bayede wena weZulu. Khabazela with respect, your words are partially incorrect.
@nontobekodinga6777
@nontobekodinga6777 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard that a son born out of marriage can become inkosana. 🤔 yoh how about a first son born in marriage? 💑 then there's no need for marriage if people can come and take our kids things in the name of inkosana
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
If the father acknowledges her first son and brings him into the family that son qualifies to be inkosana. If the father is distant to that son than its a different matter. It's up to that son to fight for his right once his father has passed on. That is what Shaka did.
@lekis5975
@lekis5975 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysticman9331 Prince Senzangakhona actually paid dowry for Nandi. There was a back and forth between their families, but dowry was paid 55 heads of cattle. That said, they eventually separated leading Shaka to grow up in exile. Shaka challenged Sigujana because his mother, Nandi, being the daughter of a chief, was ranked higher, than MaNtuli, Sigujana's mother.
@mysticman9331
@mysticman9331 2 жыл бұрын
@@lekis5975 thanks for that history.
@lekis5975
@lekis5975 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysticman9331 You're welcome. Truth be told the royals courts of yore used to be hella dramatic! Dynastic marriages were the other of the day; a Crown Prince would be raised in exile to protect him; Queen Mothers were busy playing politics to ensure their favourite son inherited the throne. Princes would stay fighting for power, and whoever won would KILL ALL the family members of his foe, as in uproot the tree from the root, and leave nothing lest the descendants come seeking revenge. It was always DRAMA galore, what is going on right now, is tame in comparison.
@africaupmedia2491
@africaupmedia2491 2 жыл бұрын
In 2018 , Master Prophet Alfonso Warally Chris warned the Zulu Mornach about the division after the departing of His Majesty King Zwelithini. *He explained how this fraction would be.* Many people opposed that prophecy ...and some other people started hating this true Prophet for the Nations. Where are we now?* *Where are those who opposed the prophecy?* *Who is to be blamed" between God and the members of the royal house" about this royal fraction in Zulu Mornach ?* #Africaupmedia24 #Trueprophecies #ZuluMornach #ZuluKingdom
@ndodazondo6187
@ndodazondo6187 2 жыл бұрын
Mangosuthu is not a king.
@IvinSifundza
@IvinSifundza 2 жыл бұрын
Ekse kan’la South Africa kwenteka ini?🤣🙆🏾‍♂️
@dennisfakude7224
@dennisfakude7224 2 жыл бұрын
Lobaba unamanga futhi angikaze ngimthande uyiphixhiphixhi.akazi lutho but uzitshela ukuthi wazi kakhulu ebe ebeda
@tumitumi7721
@tumitumi7721 2 жыл бұрын
Ziykhala kwa Zulu Natal kkkkkkk
@michamash
@michamash 2 жыл бұрын
Shaka Zulu himself was an illegitimate child, he killed his brother to be King, nothing new here.
@lekis5975
@lekis5975 2 жыл бұрын
@Micha Mash Shaka was not illegitimate. When uNandi found out she was pregnant, her people sent a message to King Jama informing him of the pregnancy. Although the pregnancy caused controversy, Prince Senzangakhona paid dowry for uNandi; 55 heads of cattle. Know that.
@michamash
@michamash 2 жыл бұрын
@@lekis5975You want to write your own History? Shaka was an illegitimate child, so was shown no respect. He grew up in his mother's nation, but underwent a childhood where he was fatherless, and had a mother with no respect left. He was shown no mercy as a child, and was frequently scorned and mocked for his parents mistakes.
@lekis5975
@lekis5975 2 жыл бұрын
@@michamash Please do your research. Indeed Shaka before his parents were born, but ilobola was paid and Nandi moved into the kraal. In fact those who know the history well, say Nandi was unique in that she negotiated her own lobola...I suspect she was not in attendance but she told her uncles the acceptable numbers of cows to demand. Life in Prince Senzangakhona's homestead was tough, indeed Princess Nandi and Shaka were subjected to a hate campaign which forced her to go into exile with her children. She even went on to marry someone else. Eventually they settled amongst the Mthethwas and Shaka made a name for himself as a brilliant soldier. However, trust and believe, ilobola was paid for Nandi! Do your research!
@CommunistRSA
@CommunistRSA 2 жыл бұрын
This is a family issue. Don't just comment
@tela6589
@tela6589 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense from this Professor...
@kaizersuze9000
@kaizersuze9000 2 жыл бұрын
Fighting for who will get the 36 million a year Tha taxpayer pays for them 👍🤣
@nkosinathimngadi4147
@nkosinathimngadi4147 2 жыл бұрын
This is nonsense.
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