also notice how the fighters in homeworld 1 take TARGETS OF OPPORTUNITY during their spread out strafes, while the fighters in homeworld 3 all focus down the same one target redundantly.

If anything, the travesty that is Homeworld 3 can be congratulated for the fact that it made me replay 1, Cataclysm and 2. But that's probably the most backhanded compliment ever.

Strikecrafts staying in a perfect formation no matter what looks so stupid.

Idk if you guys knew, but in HM1 the strikecraft and corvettes that are are set to evasive and neutral, when they run low on fuel or are damaged, they returned automatically to the nearby support frigate for repairs and resume the command. Also, they also did zig zag patterns to avoid incoming fire. Pretty neat, sadly it got sacked away in HW2

It's weird but seeing the two next to each other really makes you realise how much the scenery in 3 looks like a background rather than an organic part of the scene. Like all those big ships just sort of look like a photo and don't have much context to them.

Old games just went so above and beyond simple to try to push the technology of the time. Modern games purposely hold back as much as they can so everything remains stagnant. When it the last time you saw a game do something revolutionary that wasn’t just making you buy a new graphics card?

Holy shit what a difference, words can't describe how much gaming has fallen.

The main formation of ships in Homeworld 3 is “stuck in terrain”…

I'm fascinated at how much regression has occurred between hw1 and hw3. Simple default ship behaviors being fundamentally broken during the beta-tests, suspicion that the worst offenders of hw2's engine are still at play in hw3, and the unusually high level of micromanagement required (high APM) to get ships to function like their hw1 & cata counterparts. This doesn't at all touch at the missing ship classes.

Desserts if Karak wasn’t bad how come they messed the sequel up

if your spaceship game does not have all power to weapons all power to shields all power to engines settings it is badly designed

HW1 (original, not the remastered version) is still ahead of the curve in terms of gameplay and mechanics. The story was also really compelling. While the credits don't list any, the way the gameplay and combat are modeled makes it feel like Relic had some military advisors help out (or they really studied!) on the first game. HW2 also polished up the controls. Sadly, they seem to have really cut corners and dropped the ball with HW3. It's like they felt the need to reinvent the wheel when everything was already in place! WHYY??

Don't forget the abilities in HW3. Are you playing a twitch MMO? No. But you have to micromanage your pilots to tell them how and when to use their ship correctly.

Even in the Remaster released awhile back this scripting is broken and nonfunctional. Game devs today are a cargo cult trying to copy the looks and surface level stuff, incapable of understanding the deeper mechanics that made the games of the past work so well.

Homeworld 1 was ahead of its time, 3.... not sure what that time belongs to but its rubbish none the less

In my opinion the original Homeworld 1, not the remaster, will never be matched in RTS gameplay and story. Can replay it again and again and never sick of it.

Back when I was working in the HWRM mod I had a script that used to mimic very closely the behavior of the fighters of HW1 in the HW2 engine, but it tanked the performance so I decided it was not worth it. I only kept the fuel script and the drone script, and those alone cut your performance in half...

and those shills will defend and said something unrelated like "ur racists" or along those lines

When HW 1 released, i am impressed with the graphic and able to see individual ship and random flying pattern. No other space game can do at this time.

A neat trick! Spinning!

So somehow gaming ai is more primitive than games 20+ years ago? I guess the budgets all went to the cutscenes?

What have we done to deserve this downgrade?!

It's breathtaking.

It was the figthers, exactly them, that had me *quit* (outright *QUIT* -- alt+f4 style) on the demo, after I could not get them to behave in a reasonable fashion, after multiple attempts: they *insisted* on accumulating needless losses, that had me *pull my hair out,* by their idiotic behavior, shots wasted on overkills and [as a result of that] *absurd* losses (losing 1:1 in a 2:1 or even 3:1 engagement is flat out unacceptable against equal opponents!)... I mean: have you ever cared to _zoom in_ onto their behavior? - central ship vs. inside track vs. outside? Their asinine -ballett-routine- _synchronized-swimming choreography_ (!) is comical to the utmost degree! Like they were *only* eyeing the b-score (icedancing), not caring about a sound, object driven routine and technical aspects of... Dogfighting lethal enemies in space, with your lifes on the line! (But that's secondary. Men dying needless deaths in beautiful dancing routines, shall only ever serve as the backdrop to the angsty coming of age story of a hereditary _stronk woman_ ... rme ) Some ships outright *stop in their tracks* (because: space! AmIRight!?!), others speed like crazy, all to accomodate the *middle ship,* which just enforces *its own* flight path onto all its -wingmen- slaves/extensions. It's absurd! Utterly absurd! ... and impossible to _unsee_ after you noticed it. It's (dare I say it?) _Total Wars_ "one unit per formation [running the show, in the background _sImUlAtIoN]"_ -- all over again! But while for TW, it was all about their cinematic take-down-animations (rme), that promptet this ludicrous behavior (/design directive); what is the "excuse" for HW? -- it just seems lazy[est of the lazyest] programming for unit-behavior... That's all! Needless to say: I put my expectations on ice, after that sad, sad experience. [Now:] seeing the fallout, the narcissist template of woke storytelling, ruin the final game though, is more than _icing on the_ proverbial _[shit]cake;_ worse than I could have ever dreamed off of, in my worst nightmares. And the [unacceptable] mechanical shortcomings still persist! What a bummer... Tripple A and greedy suits? Ruins every franchise! As do uninspired narcissistic busybodies like Lin Joyce....... Just compare her face (a) with (b) "Imogen" [revised], (c) Imogen [original trailer, 3 years back] and (d) the voice-actor of Imogen (i): Some detractors/shills/sycophants actually claimed, that "b" was closer to "d" than "c" was... Now take THAT, and make up your own opinion; and then take (a) into the equation. Srsly? Do they take us for idiots? It is a blatant self-insert, if ever I saw one... And that explains so so much about all the [altered?] storyparts that are there to accomodate this narcissistic blunder... What a $#&@ show! i) why even have this gynocentric dynasty? (The many female S'Jets... Because they have no competent male offspring, ever (yet... same last name?)... What are they? Clones? Like from Kamino? Ffs.?!?) Why? - why a dynasty at all? In a military, meritocratic system?? ... I did bare with it, once, for DoK; but when doubling down on that same bad storytelling trope, the feminist sexist underpinning just becomes too much to ignore. Even more so for the shit-sandwhich of an ending. (Just three women, the crown of creation. All men just die as face-less drones, except the token black guy o/c, who served as a stirrup holder, but was still required, before the finale, to fade off into the dark, [leaving the stage to the only people that count,] as all males are expected to do... duh!) Gosh, am I ever thankful for YT on that! Being just one click away from sparing myself a 60€ letdown! Yes! :D ... _Hey folks! Mass-murdering psychopathic tyrants are only ever just_ *misunderstood* _and shall all be forgiven in hyperspace-nirvana, my fellow_ -brethren!- _sistren!_ IF -- they are women (o/c!)... Otherwise: get back into _formation,_ grunt! Your queen demands a beautiful, needless death, to honor her presence! _Ave, domina! - morituri te salutant!_ ... Really... When you decode the narcissistic enigma-machine, it just becomes an abhorrent sight to behold! And we are expected, still, to feed their egos, [and egotistical, useless careers,] with 60 bucks a -piece- grunt, and suffer, *in silence,* through their garbage offering! *In that light," the shortness of the campaign *actually* appears as a sign of... mercy! :')

Does it make sense to wait for homeworld 4?

Too bad Sweet Baby Inc. got involved with the story.

You think it's bad now? At least the inability to not only innovate but even mimic is just in video games. Wait till the infrastructures of modern civilization begin to fail. Can't wait to see the short that gets posted then.

Okay, I feel you... BUT. What if we compensate you with more S'Jett bullshit and giant women?

Homeworld 3 is okay. The story, cinematics, and mechanics are inferior. Kinda disappointing after waiting for two decades. Its all Style over substance.

Maybe someone will make a rebalancing mod in HW3 that could bring this back. 🤞

They destroyed many points what was good about the old game and the second game and then they decided just to make money off of it

I don't get the specific issue with HW3

well my friend you criticism is shurely correct but why did you use the first mission of homeworld 3 for the comparison when this mission takes place in atmosphere where the first mission of homeworld 1 was in space.