Boss Zangief being unable to spend his meter was thrown in as a reference to the massive inflation of the Russian Ruble

"You guys asked me to talk about about a lot of characters ... So of course I am talking about a character none of you suggested" That's why we love your content

Clearly, they intended on giving Gief a Roman Cancel

"only mystery-cancellable on block" gave me such a laugh, my goodness.

Zangief is the only character that can cancel into ultra But he's in the wrong game

Zangief having a mystery cancel amuses me greatly

"It's like you threw up on the carpet and called it a reference to what you last ate" Big Yellow is still the master of brutal one-liners

Next time my friends ask me what the hell I was trying to do in this game, Imma tell ‘em I tried to mystery cancel

Whoever designed this Gief must of got bullied by some 6 year old in turbo and wanted to make sure it never happened again.

19:33 "The meterless damage is actually pretty amazing." That's good, since the character can't use meter.

It's pretty fucked up how Capcom hates Zangief so much that even the intentionally OP boss version of the character is shit. Genuinely one of the top reasons why USF4 is my favorite Street Fighter is because Gief isn't garbage in that game.

The 4 probably stands for Zangief canceling into the better version of himself that was in SF4.

Dang I was really expecting the “it’s a super-cancelable normal with no super” but literally cancelling into something that doesn’t exist is way more interesting. Always fun to see little remnants of ideas the devs probably had before being scrapped/forgotten about hiding in the code like that.

I like how this video it's like a tutorial on how to use a character you can't use. "Just stick with this normal instead of that one" I guess i will keep that in mind for next time i play online

Wow, I guess even as a boss, Zangief gets no respect. Not even having a super is ridiculous, though, even if it's for a reference.

You know what I think would fix Boss Mode Zangief? Having it so your character also had to play by the same rules as him. No VTrigger, no EX, no Super. This would bolster the SF2WW reference while suddenly making him a lot scarier and threatening with the tools that he has. Sure, his oki and combos are weak, but it's very likely that yours are, too, and his tools are going to hit way harder now.

The mystery cancel should have a random chance of summoning the worm from guilty gear

You made a video about a character no one asked for, to point out super specific weirdness no one would ever notice had there not been a mod, in order to learn about game information that will never be used. This channel is fucking awesome, bro, props to you for doing all this

I love watching you get unreasonably mad about something 99% of players will never encounter.

It’s crazy how you have all of these combos in the bag in SF and other fighting games but then you play Bowser in melee

That mystery cancel business immediately made sense to me in a "Pokemon Gold Kurt Pokeball Programming" kind of way.

i like how you mention his "meterless damage" as if he actually had metered damage of any kind

I've never played a street fighter game in my life. I want to hit a mystery cancel so badly.

I've seen Zangief's idle animation so many times I honestly question if his Chest Hair goes into another dimension when he slaps his arms.

So Boss Gief is basically half of a character of a character who's already half a character. SFV Gief is treated like such an afterthought, he makes Dee Jay look like the hero of SF4.

"like if some one threw up on the carpet and called it a reference to what they last ate" I found this really funny for some reason

I was going to make a joke about how you could just take away the "Boss" part of the title yet it would still be correct but then the video would be like an hour, but as soon as you got to the Lariat hitbox and the freaking "#4 cancels", I understood why you made this for this "Boss" variant. Dear gods Capcom hates this man and Vega something fierce.

I was going to mention how MaskedGief is everything NPCGief wanted to be. But the '4' in the code stuck the most with me. Because as programmer that means one out three reasons: 1) It was meant to cancel into a special something unique for him as NPC but they forgot to change it, or left it like that since it ain't broke so don't fix. 2) A scrapped/cut content that was going to be available to everyone, but it became leftover and never checked. 3) Another way to default to 0. Since the value range in the code is 1 thru 3, every other number that isn't one of those three, or in technical terms an ELSE, is told to return the value null or just not register it. I mostly lean towards the last one, not because I hate fun, quite the opposite I find it intriguin how a fourth selection would impact the game and who would get it; but because if it was an error or mistake, they would've caught it sooner since they made another-ish character like him and they must've copy-pasted the lines of code for the first and just modify what they needed and there is where they could've noticed it and fixed it. But that's just me anyways lol, amazing video Big Y!

Yeah you're right about this not being a good reference. SPD was probably the most terrifying thing in his kit on the surface but older versions of zangief had a ton of throws and holds on all of his medium and heavy buttons. Should have made his throws proximity based with no whiff animations. You'd shit your pants if he was anywhere near your half of the screen.

Why does it feel like the SF5 devs have a deep hatred for Gief lmao

Well you see, Gief's St.HP and Sweep are actually cancelable into... Uhhhh... (Sounds of papers rustling) Drive Impact...? That's a thing, right...? Haha! Good ol' Capcom, sneaking in... references to future games like that!....

I doubt they expected anybody to look at it this close, it's a non playable boss, they probably thought not being playable would hide most of the seams because they could control much more of the variables unlike anything taking place in the multiplayer where they have to proactively correct for human chaos.

"mistery cancel" sounds like some melty blood shit lmao

Truly a "capcom wtf r u doing" type character version

"so I'm talking about a character nobody asked for" this is the energy I want to see.

God zangief is so flawed of a character design even as an snk boss he’s not great. I don’t WANT to dunk on gief, I respect the fact he invented the grappler archetype but I really hope they overhaul him in 6 to be a real fleshed out character. Because it’s tragic to look at this as the grandfather of all grapplers and see a character best described as “but why does he lack these things?”

At this point, Gief's theme might as well be the theme song for Fighting Game Garbage

It's like a sequel to the "Is SFV Gief Missing Something?" video from last year.

I FUCKING LOVE OBSCURE SHIT UPLOADED BY BIG YELLOW, I LOVE IT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO

“I haven’t played online in a while, so giving luke a concussion isn’t really doing it for me like it usually would”

We are one step closer to unfolding Gief's mystery cancel into Cambodian death combo

If SFV Gief is missing something, Boss Gief is missing everything. Even the boss version of Gief is bad holy god, why does sfv hate gief so much? Did he piss in a Capcom head's coffee after having gotten drunk on vodka?

"1000-Ten Hundred stun" That's a good number.

19:33 "The meterless damage is actually pretty amazing." Lol, I guess you're right. I'mma start saying that when playing world warrior.

Should've given him an EX Tundra Storm

We need to start using "mystery-cancelleable" as a fg term

Those cancellable moves that only the CPU can do smells of that frame 1 CPU stuff in Hajime No Ippo that only they seem to be able to do, if you break their guards they are able to frame 1 activate their gross guard move or their special dodge move and I don't know if it's possible for a human to do that, but also the CPUs in that game will never walk forward or backward, so if they start walking towards you, their guard is always down and they're going to throw a punch as soon as they step into reach, because punching in that game will automatically lock you into walking into the exact range for a punch before throwing it and it cancels your autoguard

Its hilarious that a boss meant to be broken as a challenge would probably still only be mid tier if they were actually playable, and even then that's only really because of the health, stun, and frame 1 SPD.

7:56 "It's like if someone threw up on the carpet, and called it a reference of what they last ate." Solid quote.

I don't even like fighting games but now I've formed a KZfaq Certified Parasocial Relationship with you and I love watching these vids

There's something with the SF5 devs and this big wrestling guy I can't get around what it is, but it genuinly fascinates me

Though still tanky, I am genuinely shocked boss Gief isn't tankier than Master Ryu. And I figured using vanilla SF2 to make a boss version of Gief was already too limiting, but the mystery cancels and some of the frame data still confused me, as in who thought that was a good idea. No wonder he looked so underwhelming. Well, with boss Gief out of the way, it can really only go up from here.

this is a 30 minute video about a game i don't know anything about in a genre i don't play about the mechanics and viability of a character that you can't even play as so it doesn't matter in other words, this is exactly my kind of content; good shit

This is really interesting, they could have just copied and pasted like they did with the second boss Zangief but no they did all these weird extra changes Have you looked into boss characters from other games? KoF XV has a boss version of Omega Rugal with an exclusive super move, not sure if he has any other weird properties though, other than not being able to regenerate health for some reason

The throwing up on the carpet line was absolute peak.

"Like if you threw up on the carpet then called it a reference to what you just ate" Boss Gief was designed by a cat confirmed

Imagine Boss Zangief had a V-Trigger where it does Street Fighter 2 Levels of damage for 1-2 throws

"It genuinely feels like whoever was working on this character actually fucked up at a couple of points" feels like it sums it everything about SFV Gief as a whole.

"Like if someone threw up on the carpet and called it a reference to what they last ate" is probably my favourite quote from your videos

dude, i love these longer fighting game garbage/gold/glance videos, that one you did about necro was your best yet, and i dont even play third strike, literally ever. not only did it feel very in-depth, but i (and probably many others too) like videos with plenty of run time to sink my chompers into. keep up the good work dude, this series is seriously one of my favorites on all of youtube, many thanks for all the hours and hard work you put into these for our enjoyment.

I want to explain something related to Mystery Cancel. So in programming, let's say you have a bunch of states that you want to handle for a given object, but you don't want to create whole new data structures for those states. The easiest thing to do is to assign each state a number, then give those states a human-readable name that you type in your code. These are called Enums, or Enumeration. The idea is that you get to write a nice readable `Move.CanCancelInto = CANCELTYPES.SuperCancellable` in your code, and when it gets compiled it becomes a very well optimized `Move.CanCancelInto = 2` in the actual program. So for Mystery Cancel to exist, either: 1) Mystery Cancel used to be an actual feature, and they decided against it before the game launched so it's just not a thing anymore OR 2) SOMEONE PURPOSEFULLY WROTE `Move.CanCancelInto = 4` FOR SOME REASON. 1 I can forgive. 2 is probably indicative of spaghetti code. This also means that we will never know what Mystery Cancel is without asking a developer.

13:50 Me: Can they cancel into the super he doesn't have Big Yellow: It's not that they can cancel into super Get out of my head!

The fact that ultra heavyweight Gief is green, only uses Double Lariat and Spinning Pile driver, and his jabs are really fast, makes me think he is a refference to Hagar. Double Lariat and Pile Drivers are techniques that define Hagar, and hitting the attack button as fast as you can is a MUST on Beat Em Up games. I wonder if the "fourth option" was "the move cancelable into anything, but at the spend of some HP"

So Boss Zangief is basically Street Fighter 2 World Warrior Zangief. He is THIS UNBALANCED.

I haven't played street fighter since USF4 but this video was so fun.

Me whose never played street fighter v and doesn't even really like street fighter: oh nice, big yellow dropped a new street fighter vid

i personally wondered about the details of boss zangief in sf5, so this is much appreciated thank u. he seemed like a weird boss!

I Really Hope Zangief Gets Much Better Treatment In Street Fighter 6.

Welcome back buddy!

Bro tried to cancel into Drive Rush but he was too ahead of his time.

They've been doing my man's bad since Omega SF4, grapple players are in ruins

What the mystery cancel probably was: They probably gave him Banishing Flat and wanted these moves to only cancel into that What I'm choosing to believe: Jump cancelling Zangief

As someone without much SFV experience, my friends and I all decided to play it while it was free on PlayStation. Because we were all bad, we actually banned Zangief just for the down neutral leg sweep because it’s impossible to play against when you’re all bad at the game

Lmao even Gief's boss form is low tier 😭😭😭

Mystery Cancel and Hypothetical Cancel are my new favorite terms.

Yay, the boss character i was waiting you to talk

Ngl zangief's old sweep is satisfying when it YOU'RE hitting it but dealing with it succkssss

Idea: A Fighting Game Garbage on Zangief in SFV in general. I don't play it myself, but follow the scene, and the amount of stories I heard about him being literally unusable for large swaths of the game's lifespan scares me. It seems like this was far worse at launch but got gradually better.

I didn't even know this character existed... But I've had a lot of time off and on with the game so I don't know/remember all the boss characters. But once again, a really interesting video.

“I’m not asking for anything crazy like green hand” Well I am. And have been for quite some time

Geif out here with the unknowable cancels and one can only be done on block

"I'm not asking for anything crazy like Green Hand" okay but, Shadow Lady is literally an entirely new character with unique attacks. They could've given boss gief Green Hand.

Truly blessed day when big yellow video drops 🙏

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

"It's been over six months since I talked about one of the non playable boss characters in SF5" wow what a sentence LMAO

Nerf Mystery Cancels!!

Christ Capcom just rename him to fucking Zangrief because you killed him TWICE! In the same game! Here’s to hoping he’s not shit in SF6

Hey,uh.. Just wanted to say that I haven't been doing well lately,and I really appreciate your work. Your vids have gotten me through some really,REALLY bad times,and I wanna say thank you. I feel safe when I'm in this channel,like I can really feel the love and dedication put into each of your videos. So thank you for pretty much keeping me alive for the past 2 years😅

Small correction for an otherwise great video. SFV gief dash after L SPD is -3 a lot of characters can punish

Boss Gief can cancel some of his moves into non-existent Drive Rush.

Spinning pile driver: the character At this point, it's all Boss Zangief has. Good tool, but all he has.

New big yellow video. Awesome dub boss

I've never even played Street Fighter but your videos make me want to try it

Thinking about the "mystery cancel" imagine if this gief had a normal that randomly alternated between Gatling Cancels (like anime fighters), super cancels, and special move cancelable kek

babe wake up, new big yellow vid out!

Oh god, the Msytery Cancel had me nearly in tears. That's so fucked up it's incredible

I just thought, in the beta of sfv, Chun-li had moves that only cancelled knto ex moves. Could Boss Zangief have the same thing? Given he doesn't have ex moves.

At this point, if you told me that Zangief was put into SF5 out of pure spite and made him as shit as possible for the hell of it, I would believe you.

babe wake up new Big Yellow

Hope you did well in your smash tournament!