Something I want to mention I just remembered, I remember seeing some people claim that things like F-Smash and Dash Attack can also fail and have you trip, but this doesn't seem to be true, it's the initial dash being cancelled that causes this, not the move itself. For example an F-Smash done with just the C-Stick will never make you trip. Btw again hope you don't mind me bringing up Kliff as an example of RNG done well it is very much debatable but I just love Kliff

I have heard one unironic defense for tripping in my life. It was all the way back in 8th grade when I was having a debate about it with another kid, and he defended it as a good mechanic because, and I quote, "It's really funny to see them fall."

I guess like, I can see why tripping would be alluring as a mechanic to design in a party game. Theoretically, Winning a free for all casual game because your opponent randomly tripped into your falcon punch is a funny story the same way that a bomb-omb randomly spawning over you when youre doing an attack and killing you is a funny story. Thing is, Ive never heard a single positive thing about tripping from a casual brawl player either lmao.

Random tripping increases the skill ceiling of falco dittos because you have to remember to walk and not dash while chain grabbing the fuck out of each other

Healthy RNG vs Unhealthy RNG is one of the most interesting game design discussions in my opinion. RNG in general gets a bad rap due to unhealthy RNG being the most noticeable, and it's nice to see you explain why this specific usage of RNG is poorly executed, rather than simply claiming that it's bad because "RNG bad."

The dumbest thing in hindsight about random tripping being an inherently anti-dash-dancing mechanic, is that CPUs in Ultimate will actually dash-dance to mix you.

What always fascinates me is how the meta was created around tripping. Sure, Meta Knight is a busted character. But the fact that air camping to avoid tripping is one of his core strengths is hilarious.

A friend of mine who's more on the casual side of things explained the issue with tripping as "it makes it so there's a 1/100 chance that when you try to play Smash Bros you will not play Smash Bros". It doesn't really make the game any more fun or accessible for casual players because randomly tripping just feels bad no matter how skilled you are.

tfw there's literally a -two- ONE line gecko code that disabled random tripping that existed as long as the game itself and they never allowed it in any tournaments

The single most egregious thing about tripping is that against ice climbers, a trip is a lost stock, which incentivizes people to play ice climbers.

I'll forever be amazed by how this was even a mechanic, like how the devs added this, and at no point during play testing did anyone realize how awful this was.

Minor thing at 6:07 but Ultimate's rendition of Judge stores 1 previous number to strike from the list, so it's 1/8. Smash 4 was the only entry to have 1/9, and by extension double 9s.

I've always seen it like this: If the RNG is caused by a player, it is ok. If you are fishing for an item as faust or for a 9 with Game and Watch, it is because you actively wanted to do that. Nobody actively wants to fish for a trip.

biggest example of rng in fighting games is that whenever I play couch pvp the enemy always does different stuff every time and has a different tag than "cpu" and I think this is a massive bug that has been ignored for years by many developers

I also think it's important to mention that Faust Item throw is built around the idea that Faust needs to interact with the item after it's thrown to get value. Most items he can't just toss and let them do all the work, he has to pick it up, or knock it towards the opponent, or create the rest of the pressure after or as it gives him an opening.

Since nobody's made the joke: MAN, the devs must've been TRIPPING when they added this feature!!

"It's a good thing it never came back." *Looks at random untechables when at 100%+ in Smash 4* I guess there's always gotta be something.

One thing I've heard with the random tripping is that it was meant to lower the gap between casual and pro players. A better player is likely using dash to make their movement better while a casual wouldn't really use it outside of charging at their opponent. The idea being that the better player is more likely to trip due to them using it more often. The low hitstun also kinda adds to this, it makes it harder for a good player to abuse a low level player with big combos.

I think one of the biggest aspects of acceptable RNG is that it should be fun and fair. If it's a super fun mechanic people are more than willing to overlook it's flaws

Random tripping was definitely made by somebody who hated dash dancing.

Its always so funny to me that the mechanic made to make the game more "fair" helps the 2 best characters in the game the most. MK can just stay in the air and ics can kill you at 0% if you trip

Back in the early smash 4 days, i distinctly remember some of the brawl holdouts vehemently defending tripping day in and day out in facebook groups of all things. "Its actually better for you to trip because you get s from it" -real actual words that a human said

“Not every game has to be melee.” Really refreshing to see this take for once.

Also wanted to say that your knowledge of fighting games as a whole rather than just whatever you are covering specifically adds a lot to these videos, keep up the good work

Brawl is funny to me, because it always seemed like it was trying to be tougher than it actually was Between the Fake HD graphics when everyone thought brown and gritty was the key to high definition instead of the reality that it looks like everything is lightly covered in oatmeal, having Solid Snake as one of the first third-party characters, and the plot of Subspace Emissary [which, admittedly, is still sick tbh], it really seems like it's trying to go "This ain't your grandma's Smash Bros!" So it's almost poetic that the best character in the game, and at that the best incarnation of any character in the whole series, turned out to be one of the Edgelord Kings: Meta Knight Although my claim kinda Titanics when Brawl is also the game that introduced tripping as a whole into the series, which would seem to imply they also wanted to go for a bit more kiddie slapstick, but that is kind of a major appeal of Smash

The thing with faust’s item toss is that the randomness isn’t actually that unique. There’s plenty of situations in the game where reacting to a variety of options the opponent can do is expected. All faust’s item toss does is apply that situation to both players. As both faust and the opponent need to react to the result of item toss.

I think the Kliff example is good because the randomness has rules to it. Like when the RNG is dependent on something you can control then it becomes more about analyzing the situation, and in the case of Kliff managing your resources.

Random tripping seems to me like something that was added to potentially "even the playing field" in a sense, to give less experienced players a chance to pull out wins or at least get some good hits in, but it can obviously totally backfire and just screw them over even more because of how indiscriminate it is. IMO the idea solution would be just to have an ON/OFF toggle for it in the Options menu. That way you're never forced to deal with it, but you still have the option of playing with it on if for whatever reason you want to.

"Not every game needs to be Melee. Melee already exists, if you want Melee then go play it" As both a Smash 4 veteran and a Melee player, I am SO HAPPY to hear these words. Thank you for understanding.

I remember the early days of modding via hexing, one of the first mods to be made was remove random tripping. We want that out as soon as we can

one thing I wish you mentioned is the fact that in the dolphin build that people who play brawl in the modern day use, tripping is actually disabled. I started playing the game relatively recently, and it's a very fun, albeit niche because of its slower pace, competitive experience when you don't have to worry about random chance fucking you over.

My favourite RNG character personally is Platinum from Blazblue, whose gimmick is they have weapons they equip at random that have a set durability. These items can drastically change the type of game Platinum wants to play (ie if you get missiles or bombs, you may want to start zoning.) The thing that makes this neat IMO is the fact that Plat's HUD displays both the item they has equipped AND the next item in queue, so both players will know whats coming. This not only lets Platinum and the opponent know whats going on, but still gives Platinum a net advantage due to the fact they have a special move to throw away the current item if they don't like what they're holding or just would rather have the next item in the queue AND an Install super that buffs your next item, not the one you're holding. (If you're still reading this and haven't tried Blazblue yet, do it.)

Tripping was meant to be an "equalizer" of sorts for players of different skill levels...but better players will get better punishes off of tripping anyway, so it didn't even accomplish its *intended* purpose.

I love Faust so much in strive, what a sick character design.

I heard that the developers actively disliked the fact that Melee had a competitive scene. I think the theory was that the high skill level scared away casuals or something like that. So tripping was supposedly introduced to stop dash dancing. Since casual players don't dash dance as much, they are much less affected. i tried googling for sources, and apparently Sakurai once said in an interview that when watching sprinting competitions, he didn't like that you could tell very early who would win, and that tripping in smash was meant to stop the better player always winning.

Ahh, Brawl. Even with all of it's flaws, I still can't help but have a soft spot for it. It's a big bag of oddities, it's a lot of fun rummaging through it. It always makes me ask "what", "why", and "how", but I honestly love that. Keeps me coming back for more. Like, tripping dude? What is this? Why is this? How is this? See? It happened again. What a peculiar game.

Last time I played Brawl was when I was still inept at fighting games and was content with using a sideways wiimote as a controller. I think tripping would have been the least of my worries during these dark times.

One of my favourite examples of rng in fighting games is eyedol from killer instinct. Eyedol is a stance change character who switches between a rushdown character and a zoner. The catch with this is that the player doesn’t get so decide when to switch stances, they just switch as random. They can increase the likelihood of switching stances, but the player still can’t choose when to switch. This means the eyedol player has to pay attention and be able to react to switching stance and switch up their playstyle, otherwise they’re suddenly going to go from playing a rushdown character point blank to playing a zoner at point blank. I don’t really play killer instinct so I don’t have a super deep understanding of it, but the concept of this character alone makes me want to get into it.

Because Tripping was in this game, it caused what we call *Air Camping* where meta knight jumps and spams down air. What a lame game man.

Babe wake up new fighting game garbage

Tripping being removed from project m is the best part of project m

I do think it's a shame how much people don't give any credit to brawl whatsoever, it's got a ton of really cool stuff that hardly anyone knows about anymore (Sure would be nice if the crowdfunding money for the Brawl Doc didn't go to False's weed fund) so all anyone knows is the terrible stuff people don't play it for. I have absolutely no idea where I was going with this tbh, anyways this is a great video and it's nice to see someone going more in depth about the topic, as well as giving some credit to brawl in the end there instead of just writing it all off. Same for RNG in general, I dislike people viewing it as an objectively bad thing

My guess is that it was added because the team realized they were spending a ton of time adding walk animations to the game that nobody ever sees because walking is objectively inferior to dashing and it was something they thought would encourage people to walk more, or it could have been they thought it would help slower characters since it might limit faster characters' ability to bully them, but it was incredibly poorly implemented.

It's very nice to see someone actually trying to analyze how rng can be well implemented or not even in a competitive game instead of just going *RNG sux* and calling it a day

The random tripping confused me so much playing Brawl when I was young, only found out about it years later. Great video btw. Speaking of +R, I'd love to see a Fighting Game Garbage on Sol's Dragon Install 2nd cause that's the most meme move I've ever seen in Accent Core. Requires 100% Tension 214214214214P+H input No invincibility whatsoever Absurd startup time And drains your health down to 1 pixel What an amazing super.

I remember a long time ago, someone tried to defend tripping, saying it was like "In sports, you just get injured sometimes. That's what happens when you push yourself." And you know what else causes injury? Attacks. We don't need random tripping on top of that.

Hearing about how tripping reduces your defensive options (which I never knew as a kid, I just said OH THIS SUCKS every time it happened) makes me think of like, imagine in Street Fighter 2, if you moved backwards and forwards too many times repeatedly, the game auto-dizzied you for a second, giving your opponent just enough time to get in and get a free punish. It would be atrocious.

As much as I never liked tripping, I'm a total nerd when it comes to looking at game animation so seeing each character have a different trip that comes from their dash is just a neat thing to examine

I only heard about this mechanic by second hand once or twice in the past. It literally doesn't sound like a real thing that would be in the game. It's kind of amazing to see it happen.

It's also worth pointing out that you can control when random-effect moves activate. Judge and Item Toss have random output, but the INPUT is under the control of the player, who can choose to or not to use the moves. This goes a long way to making the randomness feel more fair.

My favourite RNG character is Dampierre from SoulCalibur V. He has some moves that all come with a chance of him falling over or spinning out which actually ends up being an RNG stance change since he has some attacks that can only be done while laying flat on the floor or from faking pain. It's super gimmicky and he's bottom tier but I love the silliness and creativeness of his moveset. Random tripping is like that except there's nothing to gain from tripping and it's a universal mechanic so you can't just pick a different character.

My first competitive Smash game was Brawl, back in my college days of 2013, so I had to deal with it a lot. Forced Tripping was good but random was terrible. As someone who mained Sonic, this was bad. I did have someone defend it because in his words, "it was realistic". I am willing to go back to competitive Brawl over Smash 4 for the likes of Brawl Diddy, Falco, Pit and Marth.

you failed to mention that faust also throws his items at his opponent, meaning the ones that can benefit them are harder for him to intercept than it is for them to exploit, while the rest are avoidable on reaction, which kinda disincentivizes him using the move unless he's far away or has some other form of advantage

Brawl would have been legitimately awful even without tripping. Meta Knight and Ice Climbers Brawlimar holding 6 Pikmin Diddy getting two bananas Chain-grabs and infinites being the only way to actually combo in this game Hitstun-canceling Insane spot-dodge mechanic A billion poorly thought out mechanics that fuck over a lot of characters in unique ways (for example, Trainer's Stamina mechanic and the grab release animation of the Mother kids)

I'm actively shocked you didn't talk about this until now. Still, glad it's being talked about now.

i like tripping because I’ve used gecko codes during fights without my friends knowing that increases the chance of tripping >:)

Welcome to Kliff Gang, where the only thing easier than the damage is the hitconfirms. I mostly use my meter on 236S FRC & j.236D though, I just don't bother with the dodge unless I've not been touched that round yet.

I never understood how random tripping improved the casual experience. Maybe a casual player finds it funny the first few times, but even as a kid I found it really annoying. It's kind of like Nintendo shot themselves in the foot just to shoot the competitive scene in the face.

The defense I mainly see for tripping is that it wasn't the most detrimental mechanic in Brawl, which is true when Brawl's hitstun cancelling, ledge mechanics, and stale-move negation all had far greater negative effects on Brawl's competitive play, while tripping was something that actually made a difference once every dozen or so games, if at all (I personally can't think of any tournament match I won or lost because of tripping). However like you said, tripping was the most objectively bad mechanic; you could make some argument on how Brawl's hitstun cancelling, ledge mechanics, and stale-move negation were actually good things (and given how Brawl still has a few diehards who play it over the other Smashes, there's at least some people out there who think that way), but there's really nothing positive you can argue that random dash-induced tripping adds to the game.

One of my least favorite bits of rng that still exists in Smash Ultimate is the random item drop. Getting hit while holding an item sometimes causes you to drop it. And AFAIK most items don't really do anything when dropped like this. But Diddy's banana peel, well that bad boy can still trip you. Diddy holding a banana and playing defensively is amazingly frustrating to deal with because you could break through whatever wall he's putting up and sometimes the game just plays the UNO reverse card on you and makes you trip anyways.

A while ago, a good friend of mine who mained Luigi in Brawl asked me why they felt like their character tripped so often in the game. I did some digging, and it turns out Luigi is the only character in the game with a 1.5% trip chance, compared to the universal 1% It explained a lot

I play peach in melee, and I think turnips are probably the limit of how much rng should impact smash matches. I think peach has an aprox. 5 percent chance of getting a special turnip, and this means that she has a comeback mechanic against camping opponents. Some commentators have called it her "meter" lately.

Still weird to me how one of the most cartoony and random mechanic was added to the most realistic-looking smash

Hey, at 6:09 you say that GnW’s hammer is a 1 in 9 chance in sm4sh and ultimate. This is actually not entirely true as in ultimate you cannot get the same number twice in a row. This means the first time you use the move getting a 9 is a 1 in 9 chance and every time after it is a 1 in 8 chance, assuming thr last number you got was not a 9 in which case its a 0% chance.

Honestly, I think if Casuals knew what random tripping was they wouldn’t like it either because say like two casual players are playing and one trips and that gets them killed. Like when I was younger I played a lot of Brawl and there were sometimes when playing against CPU, playing Subspace, where I would trip and that would be what screwed me over

Honestly this whole 'calculated risk' rng thing you described with G&W's Judge... is putting something I've said in related contexts into much better words. I was using G&W's Judge as a comparison to Hero's random criticals in that the former is a deliberate risk you consciously take while the latter is just a random boon you get on an action that isn't inherently used for that risk, and I think the way you described G&W Judge does a better job of explaining how a move like that is okay by comparison than I've ever managed

Back in the day, the best player in my region unironically argued that random tripping is good. His logic was the following 1. Walking is usually better, regardless of whether you trip 2. Tripping forced people to realize this fact sooner than they otherwise would have So pretty much just arguing that its existence made the meta develop slightly faster

I think the offensive application of kliff's backsway RNG is actually kind of neat. If you're pressing strong offense and haven't been hit in a while, you can reliably pop it and have a 100% success rate, but if you're mounting a comeback just after getting pressured hard and taking a lot of stun, the big damage route is a risky option. Kind of an inverse of a comeback factor?

O k so, I'm not here to argue about tripping, we all agree it sucks. I just came to say that brawl is an ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL looking game :3.

Yeah I remembering playing Brawl as a kid and not understanding what was happening whenever I tripped. I didn't realize it was completely random. I assumed I was doing something wrong, but could never figure out what.

I see random tripping as that overcorrection for things they didnt like about melee, and they learned it was a mistake.

I think Kliff is a good example of RNG actually, and while I’m not the most fighting game literate, it reminds me of a point you brought up in a couple of Pokémon videos about randomness, I believe the banned/nerfed vids. Namely it’s RNG that can be taken into account like a Gen 1 Freeze. That sort of RNG is something both players can utilize and strategize around, whether as the one playing the character or opposing them. If I’m playing Kliff I know I have to be careful about when I take the dodge and strategize accordingly, and if I’m going against Kliff, I know this and can plan on how to capitalize if the chance presents itself. I never encountered any random tripping in Brawl, but that was because the matches I was playing with some of my friends were so hyperspecific and niche I never had to dash. Namely because it was an all Ganondorf match save me playing Kirby, and just normal movement and jumping was more than sufficient. Shout out to the B-Lounge crew, miss y’all. Thank you for the vid and cheers!

"Tripping is one of the features that resulted from our focus on pacing. The Random Tripping system attempts to slightly influence the highs and lows of the game by stopping a player's movement completely, based upon the player's recent dashing. In summary, the more you're dashing the more likely we'll make you fail. This helps create those rare high moments where the enemy player goes on a rampage and gets lots of damage in rapid succession."

I also wanna add that tripping is still a thing in the single player modes too, for absolutely no reason. I went back to Subspace a while back, tripped on an autoscroller and died off the side of the screen, which sure was something.

dash based tripping is the most hilariously bad mechanic in a fighting game... even in a party for fun fighter its unfun... never made sense

Another example of good fighting game RNG I really like is Oro's tengu stones. The way the different items that can appear effect the length or hitstun you inflict, and how those different items can change what the optimal combo out of V trigger can be, is amazing.

Damn, Wolf's F-smash had that early Kazuya tech, huh?

I love that this is also a showcase on how RNG can be implemented well in a fighting game

"Walking all the time is a big ask" And yet, part of playing Brawl competitively is knowing not to overextend and playing the defensive game to the best of your ability. Even without considering the random chance of tripping, dashing can be a big commitment and a lot of the time you might want to space your character relative to the opponent and the stage more carefully. Walking is a tactic. For characters like Marth (with a high walking speed), it may often be strictly superior to dashing.

Adding tripping to a platformer is like adding gun jams to an FPS. I mean, it's realistic I guess, and it can *potentially* help a newer player get a kill on an older one, but no one wants that kind of realism in their PvP game, and the new player is actually the one more effected by the jams because they don't know which guns jam up more. Like, if each bullet had a 1% chance to jam the gun, the vet is more likely to be using something like a shotgun over an SMG to minimize random chance killing them. The newbie, however, doesn't know this, and if they pick the SMG, they're at an inherit disadvantage because the gun they picked needs to fire more bullets, and thus jams a lot easier, and getting killed due to no fault of their own. The only argument *for* tripping, that it evens the skill gap, is flat out wrong because it actually just artificially tanks one players skill at random, and this is way worse for new players who don't have much skill to begin with, and are less likely to be able to capitalize on the trip properly as well. I'm reminded of Random Crits in TF2, a similarly controversial mechanic, but unlike tripping, actually has defenders, because it does 2 things tripping doesn't; -Evens skill -Adds fun To start, Random Crits are a *beneficial* RNG roll instead of a *Punishing* RNG roll, giving one player a triple damage shot instead of stunning the other player for 2 seconds at random. This keeps the pace as is instead of grinding it to a halt for both players as they both have to deal with this new scenario at the same time. Random Crits also require you to *hit the target* in order for you to benefit from them, as instead of lowering one players skill artificially, it raises the other's for a single shot, meaning if they connect the hit, they're likely to win, but they have to actually still have *some* skill to land the hit. It also isn't a total evener ether, as if a scout runs up to a revved up heavy with a fish, even if the scout gets two random Crits in a row, the scout is still fuckin DEAD. Random Crits don't eliminate match ups, they just give one player a boost in them, so if it's still a bad match up, you're still punished. Random Crits are far from good, honestly, they're still more abusable by vets then newbies, they still don't let ether player have a proper reaction usually, it still benefits the best classes more then anyone else, and they can lead to snowballing instead of stopping a snowball (though this last one is actually an intended mechanic). But I think it's a great example of how to put an *actual* skill balancing casual RNG mechanic in your game that's both fun and not always a complete zero sum game of fun for the victim of the mechanic. The very fact there are people defending random Crits proves this. Even people who hate random Crits admit they can be fun. It's basically the opposite of tripping, in that way.

I absolutely love brawl, one of my favorite smash bros games to watch. With that said, random running tripping has only been interesting once that I can remember from all the brawl I’ve watched recently.

Tripping was made so that a casual crowd could get into the game, because melee got so competitive. However, if anything, tripping makes it harder for casuals to compete. When your opponent trips, you need to know the best way to punish them at the time. Whether to throw out a kill move, a grab, combo starter, or whatever, in order to win. The thing is, that this benefits competitive players who KNOW what’s best to choose in those situations. The people able to get the biggest punishes off of trips are the pros. Items are supposed to effectively act like a gun in a knife fight. Whoever gets it immediately has a big advantage, and it’s basic enough that everyone knows how to use it. Tripping doesn’t do that. To use the same analogy, instead of powering up the casual player, the way the gun does, it basically takes the knife away from the person who trips. That’s the problem. People want to feel powerful, not like their opponent got fucked over.

I'm pretty sure the only reason tripping exists is as a giant middle finger to competitive Smash. It's been increasingly clear that Nintendo (or at least the Smash devs) have tried to steer clear of competitive Smash for one reason or another, and it wouldn't shock me if they've been doing this since Brawl's inception.

It is now my life's mission to find a way to become the one person who unironically defends tripping

Fighting Game Gold: Meta Knight (Brawl) **up air** **Video Ends**

"So let me get this straight, you think Brawl is trash?" "I do, and Im tired of pretending it's not."

Loooooove the mechanic breakdowns.

This is extremely well made and a well thought out argument, very well done.

Personally I LOVE videos that go into the mechanics of a fighting game, as I find that useful information about the mechanics themselves and what effect they have on the game outside of "nerf this/buff this" is far and few between. Your FGG on Breakaway left a pretty good impression on me, made me think about how beneficial it is for universal mechanics having universal inputs and how those universal mechanics should be tuned for both the attacker and the defender, so I definitely would not mind another video in this vein! Also respect for my man Kliff Undersn

Back in the day I had a friendly online tournament end in grand finals to a random trip. That was the last time I think I really played Brawl without mods.

Weirdly, I never even noticed tripping when I had this game as a kid

I remember seeing an interview of a game developer talking about rng (im pretty sure it was the devs for into the breach but dont quote me on that) they said that if rng has a small chance to make a rewarding action punishing, most people will get mad. but if instead it has a small chance to make a punishing action rewarding, pretty much everyone will like it for fighting games its obviously more complicated since 1 player getting rewarded usually leads to the other getting punished. but even then the idea still stands to a degree. like taking the examples from this video alone game and watch hammer is a mostly bad option that has a small chance to be very rewarding. is universally loved kliffs dodge is a great option with a chance to be punishing instead. in this case its more justified but its not universally liked tripping is a mechanic that punishes not just an importent option, but a fundamental one. universally disliked loved the video btw. would love to see more platform fighter stuff. especially some non smash ones as the genre is really starting to gain its footing with games like rivals of aether, slap city, rushdown revolt and nick all stars. keep up the good work man!

My best guess as to why tripping was added was to create "funny" moments in casual matches. Drastically swinging the favor of the match and causing humorous "fuck you" moments to one player specifically. Sort of like items but without an option to turn the feature off.

Wow, I grew up on brawl and I swear to god I’ve never tripped in the few years that I played the game

Also, a key point for all of those Good RNG examples you brought up: They're all opt-in. Obviously you can choose to play those characters, but the RNG within them is honestly varied in how important it is. Yeah, Faust's item throw is a key part of his kit, but I imagine you could play GnW or Kliff without even interacting with those RNG mechanics unless you absolutely had to. You don't "opt-in" to tripping. It is forced upon you no matter who you play. And like you said, one of the best characters to punish a key trip is already the best character in the game, and I imagine that would extend to any fast characters with good reach who are frequently already high tier, so it only makes the rich richer.

What personally annoys me most about random tripping is that this was basically a response to wave dashing in melee which need i remind you sakari (definitely spelled that very wrong) found and decided to leave in the game before it was even released they really could have just removed it from this game or that one if they didn't like it that much.

As a very casual player, I never noticed the triping mechanic in the game. Mostly because dashing with the d-pad was unconfortable as fuck.

"If I'm a fool for betting on a 1% chance, I reserve the right to laugh at people who fail a 99% chance of winning"

Them's Fightin Herds has a character that's a good example of randomness too. Paprika can throw out random items, not unlike Faust and has a specific meter associated with it. For 1 piece of the meter she can throw random items, but for two she can use a specific input to throw out one of her choosing. If you're using it for zoning, you usually can just throw out a random one. But combos might need you to throw an item with a property you need to continue the combo.

Great idea to make a video on tripping, never tought this would come out, used to love brawl when i was a kid but ngl this was true garbage, anyway, i cant wait for the next video! Love ya Yellow