it's crazy to me that tekken tag tournament's PS2 version *still* looks fantastic. definitely one of the best graphically aged titles

I still don't understand how SEGA didn't release Ultimate Showdown on PC

That extremely subtle Michelle Chang got me 😂 I’ve been wanting her back for so long

The KOF94 Rebout does have a kickass intro.

Soul Calibur itself look like a 32-Bit game in the arcade but when it was released on Dreamcast was an amazing 128-Bit masterpiece. Killer Instinct Gold was similar too, while KI2 was 2D using FMV for the arena in the arcade, in the N64 version everything were remake in 3D polygons while keeping the 3D render sprites from the arcade.

DoA Dimensions was top notch imo!

A set of games I'd love to see remade are ones like the Hyper NeoGeo 64 fighting game catalogue or console exclusive Saturn games like Fighters Megamix, remaking games from the ground up that just can't be emulated consistently.

Am I the only one feeling nauseous on SF2HD backgrounds due to the elements not having vertical movements when characters jump?

Virtua Fighter remix was also available on PC, with a toggle to use the old or new graphics. It was my first VF game, and the only one until I bought Evolution later on. The demake mode would have been a dream come true to me, reliving the nostalgia of one of the first games I had on Windows 95. But as you said, they just took it out of the PAL versions for some reason, and I didn't even know it existed until almost a decade later, which was especially painful when I remember wondering what the new characters would look like in the old blocky form.

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DOA dimensions I think wouldn’t count since it’s more of its own thing than a remake or collection. So I get its exclusion.

While even further from a remake than VF1-in-VF4, I liked how Capcom added "recreations" of single player SF1, SFA, SF2, SF3, and SF4 in Street Fighter V. While it functionally was just SFV with restricted rosters, Capcom put a bit of effort into it. In a few cases where a character wasn't available, Capcom used a similar stand-in (such as using Balrog for SF1 Mike or G for SF3 Q). Also to help fill gaps, "appropriate" characters were sometimes added to a "game" (such as SF1 also including the Final Fight characters). Each "game" offered endings for all of its available characters, either recreations of the original endings, or completely new endings for stand-ins or new characters. Characters would receive retro/vintage outfits when available. When available, minigames and even secret boss conditions were included. Etc. It was a neat extra mode, and made a nice playable way to catch up on the history of the franchise.

DOA2U is still my favourite DOA. Never could get Hitomi to unlock, I don't think, and I had saves of both DOA3 and X1 on the system.

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Incredibly well researched video! Fantastic job!

Dead or Alive 2: Ultimate was AMAZING!!!

I haven't played it, but if I didn't know better, I would've called DoA2U a 360 game. That's how good it looks.

I'll never forget playing the PS2 Tekken Tag game. I got it on launch day (no easy feat getting that system on launch!). I fired it up, and being an avid Tag arcade player, was blown away. It signaled the end of an era for me. Growing up, I used to think of arcade units as vastly superior. But Tekken Tag broke that mind set. It looked better sure, but it also played without lag, something not even the arcade unit could do.

DOA2U is such a beautiful game that still holds up after 20 years later and I wonder if you can talk about other versions and re releases in home consoles of fighting games soon, as always another great video and take care 👍

HD Remix was indeed stifled by maximum download sizes. They had to remove the intro, and if memory serves, they had to ask Udon to redraw all the sprites because they were initially too detailed. The removed intro is on KZfaq (incidentally, it's animation is worse than the original...). There was an article, I believe, from 2007 or so that had side-by-sides of an old, overly-detailed sprite and a new one that made it into the final game.

Virtua Fighter kids existing and being it's own separate game is still so wild to me. I grew up playing the Bloody Roar games and they had unlockable features which included big head mode, big hands mode and chibi mode and these essentially turn the character models to what you see in Virtua Fighter Kids

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Playing online matches of DOA2 Ultimate via Insignia is such a nostalgia trip. Also since the global network infrastructure has improved in the past 20 years, all you have to do is make sure you have your Xbox router ports open. I mean playing online survival mode with a lobby of 8 people is just so exciting and aadly still unique.

One thing I've beaten around in my design documents is like a "compiled demakes collection" as an alternative to a budget vs. new release approach. Like taking the core mechanics of a game, and whittling it down to a Top 9 roster of each title, to catch the competitive scene spirit of each title without doing all the legwork of a 100% remaster/recreation. Like for instance... a Tekken 3/Tag remake that only contains Ogre, Jin, Heihachi, Xiaoyu, Law, Eddy, Paul, King, and Nina; but still features Force, Ball, Time Attack, and Team Attack modes. Pair this with similar demakes of T5, TTag2, and T7 like a sampler disc and you're golden.

Honestly I kind of wish Tekken Tag 2 got ported to newer consoles. I'd love to see the game with less input buffer, better netcode, etc

Ultra Street Fighter 2 was my reason to buy a Switch!

DOA2 Ultimate was also my first online fighter. I feel like that game is so slept on because it was an Xbox exclusive. Some of the characters had …20 unlockable costumes? Also the hits felt so SOLID in that game. Can we get a re-release of remake? I’m happy it’s BC with Series X, but still… Great video as always

Nice video! I was hoping to see KoF2002UM but since i already know about that one,it doesnt matter, i didnt know about the sega ones so thanks

imagine a proper SF alpha 2 or SF third strike with all new giant hd sprites with like 24 frames of animation flowing and looking like silk. that would be amazing but prob take millions of years and monies to do.

I'm so glad hearing oc remix got to do the music on a Street Fighter remake. I love the tunes you can find on there

I remember the size limit being impossed on the games by xbox, it really fucked many games back in the day :/

Virtua Fighter Remix was released at retail in England at a budget price in a cardboard box. We never got the VF4 anniversary edition as far as I'm aware.

"It just bums me out that in a time when remakes are more prevalent than ever that we don't have any for fighting games." Given how some modern remakes turn out, *THANK GOD.*

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The difference between remaster and remake is quite clear by definition. A remaster means they took the original data and ported it to more powerful hardware that could output closer to the original master. Something like Grandia 2 or Okami where the games were made with much higher resolution than the hardware could handle so they had to be downgraded. When they port the master files to a more powerful system, they no longer had to scale them back. A remake is when they have to actually create new data. If they need to redraw a sprite or create whole new polygonal models, they've made something new. Hence re-making it. New modes or anything else are just bonuses. Even adding new modes to something that's just a remaster doesn't make it a remake since it's still the same data arranged in a different way.

my first time coming around your channel, this is a dope video. I'll share my opinion on why fighting game remakes are uncommon: 1. The core player base preferred arcade perfect ports for most games in the early days (and those were rare), so for the most part, people prefer the arcade originals (this is also the same for the rhythm game community). 2. Anytime a new version of the game is made (SSF2T: HD Remix, USFII,) it tends to get ignored. HD Remix did have a buzz around it but the game caused a divide. Now there are Super Turbo players, and HD Remix players, because the games just aren't the same. But competitively Super Turbo is still played. Even Hyper Street Fighter 2 (Super Turbo's first sequel) gets ignored in favor for Super Turbo 3. Most of these old games got yearly updates, similar to Madden, NBA live and the like, and were also being released as separate titles. Now-a-days these updates are DLC. Try to remember buying Street Fighter 4, then Super Street Fighter 4, then the Arcade Edition Patch, then Ultra Street Fighter 4. 4. Just make a sequel. As much as I'd love a "Playable" Street Fighter 1 with its whole roster, I just know it'll never happen. Especially since there is a world narrative in these fighting games. In this regard, SF Alpha 2 is really a remake of SF Alpha 1, not a sequel as it serves to undo everything SF Alpha 1 did.

Regarding Ultra Street Fighter II, I tried to play online the other night. I must have sat there, looking for a match for like 45 minutes before I gave up. I even tried hosting. Nothing. No one is out there, anymore. Too bad. It’s such a fun game!

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Never knew KoF 94 had a remake, I'm actually interested in trying it.

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I want to play this youtuber in ANY fighting game and see how it goes.

The jump from ps1 to ps2 was phenomenal, probably the biggest jump in graphics in the modern era.... Sadly I bought the Dreamcast. But I ended up getting a ps2 with a mod chip and had over 150 games.

Great video! I do feel like many of these games don't get remakes because each new game holds a "remake" quality to it. Sure these games have different stories, but that's not what matters for the most part in fighting games. For example, A remake of SF2 in the SF4 Engine would just be SF4... Which is not the same for say remaining metal gear solid in a new engine. These games honor so much of their predecessor already that it's not worth making an entire new version of an old game when you can make a new one with the same characters. Some games are exceptional, because of game play mechanics or unique character selections (thinking 3rd strike compared to the rest of SF) and those games are probably the easiest to green light remakes for.

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Super SF 2 was a full engine redo as it moved from CPS1 to CPS2 architecture.

I'd like a visual-only remake of Street Fighter 4, that retains the Daigo Ikeno art direction but gives the models more polygons

My main takeaway for why fighting game remakes don’t happen is the replay ability of these games and the meta as well. Third strike wouldn’t be third strike anymore if they change the balancing of the game and remade some of the directions taken like the sound chun li makes when she whiffs a button.

8:30 funny trivia: the cuts you used from that VCDECIDE channel shows him complaining in portuguese about nobody hitting the like button

Ah man you forgot to mention the amazing 94 Rebout intro though!

The Darkstalkers 3 remake getting rejected is depressing, that sprite looked absolutely gorgeous.

Demakes are fun. It'd be neat to see it done more often. Also, it blows my mind that they have VF5 almost fully playable in the Yakuza/Like A Dragon games on PC, yet there's no PC port for VF5.

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I don't how common this perspective is amongst Street Fighter fans, but I think the Redone character designs for SF2 Remix look great in solitude. However, the decision to replicate the animations directly from the original SF2 highlighted the stiffness of some motions, and it didn't mesh well with the more detailed sprites. Which I think is where most of the controversy stemmed from outside of "I don't want change". I don't know if redoing them would have been on the table either (or what the SF fans wanted), since SF4 was already in the works as the next new thing, and projects relating to SF2 tend to act as a safe investment for Capcom.

Tekken Tag tournament is still special. It was the only Tekken to bring back all the players from Tekken 1, 2, 3, and even add never before seen players... And I believe it had Tekken bowling, which my wife would play with me.

HD remix was incredible to experience. I loved the rebalancing and I’m a bit salty the music from that game is stuck there.

The KOF '94 Rebout footage has some bugs and stage pop-ins that I've never seen playing on my PS2

Kinda crazy that Tekken Tag Tournament has had 3 releases for three different systems. Would be cool to get a Tekken 3 remake.

Fighting game remakes needs to return one day.

Yeah...KOF 94 Rebout was unnecesary. The only possitive some of the remix tracks (AST) are very good Makes me wonder why SNK didn't just make a remake of KOF 95 After all, '95 was an updated version of '94 Imagine a remake of KOF 95 with characters more "balanced" and with the roster of the original 95 roster plus the American Sports Team. 😊 Edit: I really wanted a remake of KOF 2001 I don't hate the game, in fact I really like the unique gameplay and the striker system. If only they hadn't rushed its development.

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Do you think the soundtrack of hd remix is as good as the sf 2 or better?

Does anyone know the name of the song at 18:20?

Would you consider the arcade routes they did in SFV as remakes too? I thought that was a neat idea

I actually remember my dad having Super Turbo HD Remix on PS3. He always beat my ass in it. I have gotten better at it though

If KOF 98 UM, & '02 UM Considered a Remake or an Update?

I love Ultra Street Fighter 2. Best version for me as it doesn't have the crippling difficulty of SSF2T and I love the character customisation and artbook.

4:00 and then imagine if you could play this game in the Tekken Lounge against other people

If I remember correctly VF Remix was released in Europe for half the price AND it came with the CGI renderings on a bonus CD (which were released seperately in Japan). We NEVER got the 10th Anniversary version though in Europe.

DOA Ultimate was my first Online fighting game too! The original Xbox had so many great fighting games! I also played Third Strike on Xbox live thanks to the street fighter 15th anniversary collection. People were crazy good at that game. I hated that the original Xbox didn’t have WiFi compatibility so you had to hook it up to a router. The router was in my parents room and I was broke high school/college kid too poor afford Xbox live so I couldn’t play online often 😔

*Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers* is definitely and totally one of THE Best Epic *Street Fighter II* Remake Games there is for the Nintendo Switch System!

I love USF2, it's a lot of fun for what it is, and I hope it gets ported to other platforms eventually.

I feel like with any games, the early 3D ones seem like the best candidates to be remade with a nice graphical update and extra content. Because they visually aged the worst but did tend to be pretty different in gameplay because developers really where experimenting at the time. Mortal Kombat 4 would be the Mortal Kombat game I'd choose for a remaster, going with the Mortal Kombat 4 gold roster of course with maybe a few additional characters if they make sense to be there in the story at the time. Could have some extra costumes and stages too. But all the moves, stages, pulling weapons during a fight and all that, could all be there. Remade endings too with better voice acting and animations since those all where pretty awful. Seeing how every Mortal Kombat seems to have several characters who only appeared in that one game before getting ditched or being reduced to a cameo appearance or obligatory appearance in either Trilogy or Armageddon since they included everyone, there is also some extra appeal there too. MK 4 has Kai, Jarek, Reiko and Fujin who don't appear much, Tanya is rare too. Could also be interesting if some of the extra characters are actually from later in the series adapted to MK4 gameplay if they'd make sense to be there in the timeline. The MK kids couldn't be there since no time skip, but Kenshi could be there, possibly before he went blind even. Noob Saibot could be there since he was initially planned to be. Kano too since Jarek uses his moveset anyway.

I never played Soul Calibur 2 Online Edition. But from I hear, the frame rate was off. I also never played MVC Origins 🙁

Though it's not official, there's a fanmade remake of Street Fighter 1 made with Mugen which is pretty cool, and my favourite fighting game series, Asuka 120%, is comprised entirely of remakes lol

think a remake for a fighting game could happen like for tekken(tbh remember that the most of 7 including all the endings of 16/tag & the commercials/pachinko.) & mvc(origins had the darkstalkers resurrection problem of being digital for something that should've been physical/should've included x-men vs. street fighter.) with how a lot of people want x-men 97 to crossover into the marvel vs. capcom games like a remake of the original or a special episode appearance/season cliffhanger tease.

Man DOA is an amazing fighting game... talk about a series that still looks killer by today's standards

Now that you point it out, it's really surprising how few fighting game remakes there are in comparison to other genres. Then again, fighters may be the genre that's changed the least since their inception point. Not a bad thing, it's just that the genre nailed things down early and didn't need drastic overhauls. I am curious why fighting remasters (like MvC Origins) tend not to sell too well though. Maybe genre enthusiasts either want to focus on the newest games everyone is playing or already own whatever old game that's no longer available on modern platforms if that's the one they want to get into?

Harada has stated he won’t remake the earlier Tekken games. He wants to keep moving forward.

Kof 94 rebout's sprites look super cursed

regarding soul calibur and tekken tag, only the graphic part of the engine were remade. the gameplay is the exact same (same hitboxes, frame data, speed etc..) which explain why both versions could be played competitively regardless of the system. regarding SF2HD remix it's true that they had to cut graphical assets because in the early days of 7gens consoles the xbox live and psn imposed a strict restriction in the file size of digital games. if it was released later in the life cycle of the console, the game could have looked better.

I loved the rebalancing changes of HD Remix: all fighters were now competitive and the best ones were cheap. David Sirlin did this, great game designer. I wish Ultra SF had been the same!

Dead Or Alive PS1 port is also a remake of the original Dead Or Alive, where they use a different engine than the original, which uses the same one as VF2 the arcade version of this exists as Dead Or Alive ++

Sometimes a full graphical tweak can happen while still retaining the original engine. Are they a full remake then? Eh, I guess it depends on your definition. I was so used to the PS2 version of TTT, when I got around to finally playing the arcade version I was shocked at the difference in graphical fidelity. It's a tragedy that HD Remix wasn't ported since that console generation, we really need a port for computers.

Do the Saturn and PlayStation versions of Street Fighter The Movie count as remakes rather than ports of the arcade since Capcom ostensibly just stuck the assets into a version of the Super Turbo engine for them?

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You should've mentioned some of the demakes to portable, like SF2 Turbo Revival, Tekken Advance, or Battle Arena Toshinden for the GB.

Really hope the leaks on virtua fighter 6 are true.

It would be cool if Third Strike got a remake with some new characters like Sagat, Juri, Zangief, Laura, Sakura, and Jamie.

1:36 The Sega Model 1 is incapable of textured polygons, so "barely textured" should be "no texture at all".

"Goofy shit," that's funny.

Intereresting.

I wish Bandai Namco Remake Previous Tekken Games using the Recycled Asset from 8.

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