The sentiment was shared! Montante was a favored weapon for bodyguards during its heyday, as it could easily keep a group of would-be assassins or muggers at bay in a semi-enclosed area like a city street. Anyone with half a brain would think twice before approaching a big hunk of steel swinging around at that speed, and it was pretty much a given that if a mercenary was being paid for their services, they knew what they were doing with said big hunk of steel.

1. For swords of this size, it's crucial to keep the momentum going. Longsword is much more sharp and controlled in comparison. 2. Exactly, especially if your footwork is on point. The whole point of the greatsword/zweihander/spadone/motante is to claim space. 3. It's all mostly footwork and core strength in these cuts, believe it or not. It just seems that way once the blade's in motion, and you're just guiding its momentum with your legs and core muscles. Pretty much the only way to get control like this with a sword of this size. Not that the sword is heavy, mind you, around 5 lbs for a sword of this size, and typically it's really long, so by the nature of the weapon, you have to change your biomechanics a bit to be fast, fluid, and deadly with a sword of this size.

+Peter Timowreef Divide up the movements ,visualize the applications, and it becomes so much simpler

+Peter Timowreef You should look up his actual rule set, reading it might give you a better idea of each movement, then use videos like this to reference when something is not clear.

I just cross-referenced the simple and composed versions of rule 1, and let me tell you... The simple version is basic as FUCK in comparison.

That's how figueiredo himself called these moves. There are other rules he called "composed"

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It'd be wild he busted out a cartwheel during one of his forms

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You shouldn't "spin" neither you are rather covering all your flanks. This weapon is made to use against multiple oponents so you have to be carefull.

What about Beyblades though?

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It certainly looks intimidating trying to close the distance... but I can imagine a lot of the swings wouldn't end up doing serious damage and even though the rotation generates a lot of momentum and it makes it hard to parry or deflect the blade it shouldn't be too hard for an experience swordsman to close the gap and deliver a fatal thrust.

@@tehcks It would make sense though... you need powerful swings to deflect pikes or spears thrusted towards you, so using a constant spin is a good way to do it - now the problem is it can work both ways, the more momentum you put in it the harder it becomes to control - it is still a sword and it can easily deflect when hiting a shield or piece of armor. Having such a long blade makes it almost impossible to use within grapling distance even with half-swording techniques so I guess it did end up as a very popular choice for large battles.

Other than the gangplank scenario, all are designed here for a non-military context. For use on the battlefield most of these movements would be all but impossible to utilise.

Images of greatswords diving into pike formations would disagree with that

@@bramvanworkum he's still correct, you're not spinning it around over your head but rather using your greatsword to bind up the enemy polearms and allow your polearms to incapacitate/kill them

Yeah this weapon was designed to deal with a large number of targets in little to no armor, it would she'd zombies

Jools Grommers If Figueiredo specified it as being a rising cut, as he does elsewhere, then I would do it as one. He says in the final parts of the memorial that the executive movements are natural, so it would make sense that he would specify in his work which cuts would be an exception. I used to be part of NoVA Assalto back when it was still active, and the rising-then-descending variant was one of the first interpretations I learned for 3s as well. It felt neither protective nor smooth, and was very easy for an opponent with any experience to take advantage of in sparring. The double descending cut creates less drastic openings on the body, moves and suppresses with more authority, is less easy itself to suppress, and is easier to pull off in sparring. It's also a MUCH less suicidal movement against people with shields. By shifting the compass during the preparation, you can maintain a fluidity of position and measure that lets you maintain the advantage and possibly even pull off an opposition technique (though this isn't specified). I would still do a rising motion to parry if doing a half cut, but the rising motion would not be a cut in and of itself as it's just the dispositive preparation, and bringing the sword all the way behind me to do that would be inefficient if in immediate need of such an active parry. I don't dislike the idea of doing a still rising cut then stepping with another cut, but I personally do not think that's what's being described there. Where in this video I ready the still cuts from behind by doing a large circle to bring the hilt behind my head, they could also easily be readied by doing a rising dispositive motion behind you, like a half-cut, checking behind you, then giving the double-cut in front. He uses the double cut in his rule 6 against a single montantero though, so I like to do the circle as my default dispositive motion as it still has utility if there's just one opponent. It depends on what you want to do. Finding something that "felt right" for the double cut was a huge irritation for me for the longest time, this was the one that felt smooth and suitably murderous.

I have been reading "from behind" as a rising cut, the people who did the translation on Oakshott seem to think this is what he means too (tried to find the discussion where one of them mentioned this, but couldn't). I don't think it matters much, Keeping the hilt in front of the face between the first and second cut keeps me pretty safe. Was just wondering. Your interpretations have helped me a lot with mine, so I can't thank you enough for that. Doesn't mean we have to agree on everything. :)

It's great if you have an interpretation of Figueiredo's rules. I am a native speaker of portuguese and couldn't read them all, let alone elaborate an interpretation. Please post your videos.

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How did it go? I'm a skinny guy and was thinking of buying one as a way to get bigger but also have fun while doing it.

Still happens to me with the longsword so yeah. :D Not a good feeling.

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Well, you know the rule. There can be only one

Just rub some dirt in it you'll be fine

bird bones It's an A&A montante trainer with a custom crossguard. It came with a longer blade when I ordered it, about the same size as the one on the spadone trainer.

+Montante Niño I saw in a Scholagladitoria video that that sword is 8 pounds - How do you lug that thing around so easily? O_o

+Demonix Gamer (Alan Castillanos) Matt Easton's two-handed sword is a Del Tin sword, and Del Tin tends to make their swords overweight.

anyone here knows how effective this fighting style is?

Well, a Montante´s puropse is coverin the space around the fencer and hitting everything trying to move in, and it´s Rally efective. but not for duelling.

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+David Stanley this is like asking a professional thai fighter: "how you do that?" mmm how about dedication, skill, trainning, endurance...and hours and hours of practice...

+Rico Cori You are being rather harsh. "Please tell me how I can learn this" and "Teach me your secrets right this instant" are very different requests. Nothing about his original comment implies he is looking for a "short cut". Lashing out like this is only going to discourage potential beginners. The various arts of HEMA are still growing, we can't afford to turn away enthusiastic recruits. +David Stanley First and forefost, you would need people to train with. This is somewhat complicated, because HEMA is actually a collection of martial arts, not just one. That means that a "HEMA" group might not practice this weapon, in fact most focus on a shorter German longsword. On the other hand, most HEMA practitioners learn and fence with multiple weapons, and getting involved in HEMA is your best bet to eventually get to use this one. You might even be able to convince a longsword group to begin studying the greatsword (aka Spadone, Montante or Zweihander). So that would be my recommendation. Any knowledgeable group should be able to advise you on equipment, training swords etc. The most important thing is to train.

+David Stanley I would suggest learning the longsword first with a HEMA group, either in the Italian tradition (Fiore/L'arte dell'Armizare) or in the German tradition (Kunst des Fechtens). Once you have experience with that, learning the Montante/Spadone/Zweihander/Two hander is something you should be able to achieve. The longsword is actually referred to by some masters as the "queen of weapons", because in learning it you learn the fundamental principles of most other weapons. There are HEMA groups almost everywhere nowadays, so see if there are any in your area to practice with.

+CC S The sword is not heavy, in fact, its only 4 pounds, but this move is similar to one you might see in the use of pole weapons, especially in the use of glaives, where the body is used to halt and rebound the weapon to great effect with circumstances restrict other forms of attack.

Use a weapon proportionate to your height. Solves that problem handily!

From what I've heard from other youtubers (mainly Shadiversity) this kinds of swords were made to be as tall as the wielder (or taller) That's why you see those big sweeping motions overhead. So even a person as short as 5'5 like me should be able handle it. I'm assuming the sword is 5'5 in length because another youtuber (scholagladiatoria) has a similar sword that long.

+Andy Wilson These "Rules" or "lessons" come from a manual about the serious application of a great sword in combat, whether in defense of a town, a gate, person, etc, or on the battlefield. The great sword wielder, by being able to go through these forms and combine them and even change a cut or thrust or step here or there, is meant to gain an understanding of the inherent advantages and disadvantages of using his weapon, the power it has, the space it can dominate, etc, especially if he is up against more than one opponent and needs to keep them at bay or even smash their formation. The nature of the great sword's size means that its greatest advantage lies in keeping momentum and presenting a viable threat to all comers while the user steps to keep himself safe and put his opponents at a disadvantage, which is why this may look a bit flashy, what with all the rotations and graceful bounds across the line, but the idea of the art is to keep one's mind sharp and ideally have perfect control over one's body so that the sword and body move as one, without effort (you'll notice that he does not get tired despite swinging a great big sword around, that is because he is using the power of his body and the leverage of the long handle). This sentiment is seen throughout all of the historical manuals that I have read, even if the weapons discussed are different. Hope this helps!

Not really, grappling with a montante is very effective too. The style is to fight against multiple oponents with various types of weapons.

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if you post it i’d definitely like to see

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Montante.

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