Outstanding! I believe you will find this a cut above. Brilliant performance by Bales. Kudos to Mary Herron for her directorial prowess. Only way to find Bret Easton Ellis's work palatable.

100% agree!!

freak urself out a bit and take a look at the role Bale played after this. "The Machinist" even some stills you'll see what he did. he then went on to play Batman (why he was beefy in the beginning)

Your right he was desensitized while working out

So my personal theory on what is actually happening at the end is this: they are ALL killers, and Patrick just broke whereas they were able to maintain their facades. Then, when the other guy says it’s not possible because he has lunch with Allen, he was just covering it up and trying to keep Patrick quiet so he wouldn’t oust them. Collective of high paid killers that protect each other, until one cracks.

Bateman lives at 55 West 81st Street, Upper West Side on the 11th floor of the American Gardens Building (where he is a neighbor of actor Tom Cruise).

@Dexter Morgan That would’ve been really cool, Tom Cruise acting as himself

Fun fact, Christian Bale isn’t even American.

@@MartyrLoserKing really?

@@obamaspaghettitoiletsauce9150 Yup, he's from Wales

That’s actually extremely brilliant!!

that's interesting cause I can NEVER tell if he's stupid or just playing stupid to get more info lol

That is so fuckin cool. And it totally demonstrates what a superb actor Defoe is.

There are so many extremely subtle editing decisions that make this such a fantastic movie along with Bales performance

It also looks like Harron also shot the interview scene in Bateman's office with a wider lens and the pan and tilt resistance off, so the subjects look stable but the edges of the frame are shaky.

Hahaha that’s beautiful!

Dark twisted and hilarious ppl look to deep into the horror and get freaked by the humor the horror and darkness is just there for plot it’s a film ppl

@@current3109 'cus, y'know, films can't have any deep meaning. Just because it's funny, doesn't mean there aren't interesting or deep aspects to it. Not everything meaningful has to be dark and serious.

oh damn, i thought i was psychotic for laughing while watching. it is pretty absurd

@@gary7846 I DID TOO OMFG

Yeah, my understanding is that Christopher Nolan thought that Bruce Wayne had to be slightly unhinged to become a vigilante and so he needed an actor with the chops to carry that off.

Wait really!? 😆

@@JamesVSCinema So i heard, makes sense since he has 2 personalities like batman and Bruce. His dark side and his everyday business side.

@@JamesVSCinema that was after they laughed at him when he was first auditioning for Batman. He just finished The Mashinist and looked like a stick 😂 so the story goes...you have to see The Mashinist if you have not.

@@JamesVSCinema I've heard that as this movie was filming the other actors hated Christian Bale's acting, they thought he was a terrible actor. It was only after they realised what he was doing with his acting.

Or that sea urchin ceviche

Dorsia? Noboby goes there anymore.

Funny is, in the book, he managed to get in Dorsia, but only through a reservation made by his hated brother Sean. Another humiliation for him, but his brother remained unscathed.

the real villain are those damn business cards

@@KP16OO I was going to say, the business card maker, now they are the ones making a killing.

If this came out today, Twitter would blow up like a nuclear bomb.

@@JP-1990 it really would

Factory freak out scene in the machinist is up there too.

It wouldn't come out today. They don't make movies like this anymore because of the fact that the media and Hollywood has preached so much about political correctness. At the very least there won't be another large budget movie that takes so much pr risk as this movie did.

“I guess I’m a pretty sick guuuuy” I laughed my ass off when I heard that line.

Did not know that!

I haven’t heard that.

The best of his generation

I also heard they were weirded out about his ability to start sweating on command during the business card scene. Every. Single. Take. Dude is so serious about acting he has control over his nervous system 😮

Yeah spell Christian right first, then I'll consider your fact

Thanks for the knowledge my friend!!

@Dexter Morgan Jesus, I don't think I could ever forget those moments. I still clearly remember the part where he walks by the gay pride parade. His overreaction to getting winked at is so horrible and ridiculous it kinda makes me chuckle, especially with it's single sentence delivery. The book definitely delves deeper into how much of a homophobe Patrick is.

@Dexter Morgan That scene felt more cold to me. How he just stood there watching the kid die followed by his explanation that it wasn't satisfying because not many people would miss him at that age. The later moments with his secretary felt the most human to me. Especially when they both write a nasty letter to his ex.

@Dexter Morgan I couldn't finish the book, almost out of principle. I don't see myself as being oversensitive and wouldn't ever call for banning the book, but it was just far more chilling than anything I've ever read. Bizarrely the scene with the urinal cake is what stands out for me, possibly because it was one of the least impulsive ideas he had.

Thats what I thought too. That the woman selling Paul Allens apartment got some mafia types to clean up all he dead bodies because the property was worth millions.

Hahahaha I’m going to forever look at business cards like that haha

I think the whole thing is a dark satire. A VERY dark satire.

Geeez...now I’m intrigued in reading the book!

@@JamesVSCinema The novel was written by Bret Easton Elis, who also wrote Less Than Zero. The main thing I recall from the novel was that the main character always describes people based on their fashion, or other materialistic qualities, and rarely their physical appearance. The character is almost completely detached from humanity, and likely a narrative of the cutthroat nature of Wall Street, and materialism in the 80s.

@@JamesVSCinema it’s actually brilliant. darkly hilarious. i think you’d love it.

The book is almost unreadable because it's so well crafted and the more you read the more insane you become. It really is delving inside the mind of Patrick Bateman, to the point where his mind is infecting you.

@@stuartspencer2161 just to expand a little on what you said: he goes into as much detail when describing his horrific crimes as he does when describing people's clothes and the music he listens to. As if they're all equally significant to him, which kind makes it even more unsettling. Incidentally he talks in the book about his love for Whitney Houston but she refused to have her music included in the film...

Mimick them.

But his detachment with emotions and reality, makes it feel like he's mocking them

He lives in a world of mockery. And by mock i mean the definition: "Not authentic or real". thats why there's so many mirrors in the film. Everyone is a reflection of everyone. A reflection is nothing but an image with nothing behind it. He even says "I'm simply not there" as he looks at the mirror. Bateman is just an example of one person of many in the movie who are obsessed with conformity.

Buzzardbeatniks not too long ago I started expressing my opinions with “I think” rather than just barging in with it bluntly, as in “I think he’s not mocking people, he’s trying to pass as one of them.” It has made my statements less abrasive than just stating my opinion as if it’s objective fact. It makes it seems less like I’m trying to correct someone and more like I’m adding to the discussion not shutting it down. You know, it keeps it subjective not objective. Really changed how I interact with people in a positive way in the comments. I mean it hasn’t stopped me from being passive aggressive, but I’m only human.

I think he's conflicted. Not in a moral way of course, as that doesn't appy here. He mocks others because he looks down on them. It's fairly well known that many anti-social personality disorders also have co-disorders such as heavy narcissistic and detachment. He thinks he's better than everyone else. The other part though has to do with his insecurities, validation (purely egocentric) and status. So while he generally views himself as above the rest, it does irk him to no end if someone has something he deems valuable, e.g career promotion. And that is what makes him a valid threat.

@TGDS Could be explained by the fact he blends in so well he could have been anyone

In my head it’s the lawyer being complicit

Personally I think it’s whatever you believe. You can either think all of it was imaginary or all of it was real. It is why the film is so good.

@Aquarium Gravel Do you gave a clip or article of anyone saying that? I think that would be interesting read

@@elbowbread4393 same!

Talk about a crazy piece of cinema..hahaha this was a wild experience itself! Much love as always Brandon

I love that you two are aware of each other. 2 of my favorite reactors recognizing each other. What a beautiful comment. Appreciate you both!!

Um I’m sorry to tell you but no…. It’s because Patrick is a severe homophobe who believed that every single gay person has AIDS. It’s expanded upon in the book and is really fucked up :/

@@jadenantu6171 Hahah I thought this too

@@khaalmalki4039 It's dehumanizing, maybe it's not exactly hatred but it's viewing people as something other than people

It's because he thinks he has AIDS

@@khaalmalki4039 Please tell me how all the interracial smut where the chick calls the dude a hard R isn't an example of racism by fetishizing.

@TuTíoJefferson yeah it is

No, I think it has more to do with affection more than possible homophobia. Notice that the only people Bateman spares even as he’s trying to kill them are those who show him affection, something a sociopath like him doesn’t know how to handle. It’s an idea that is entirely foreign to the dog eat dog mentality he has accustomed himself to and expects in others

Yes, he said that the strongest emotion he has is disgust. He was disgusted of even the touch of that men.

@TuTíoJefferson holy shit that makes sense now becuase of the blood

I think a lot of these ideas are part of the answer, which is a complex or difficult one to bring out. Another idea I thought about is that it would affect his image to be seen as involved in homoeroticism, and we all know how seriously he takes his image. But I like the explanation of real affection being alien to him, too.

I agree. This was a much more nuanced character. Leo's best "villain" performance was easily Django Unchained in my opinion, which was a much more in your face character.

It’s said that Leo didn’t really understand the material & that it would have been a bad idea for him to make the movie due to his fan base at the time.

@@Bradford659 Fair enough, he's still a good actor tho who probably could've pulled it off.

He was talked out of it by someone (who's name escapes me) who told him that so many young girls love him and if they saw it, they'd be scarred

I love Leo and No doubt he would have pulled off his Version, he is a great Actor, but I can't picture him pulling off a better Version than Bale, specially when you consider how young he looks back than, i mean he had a Babyface and was skinny, like a Boy Band Member, Bale may had been just 1 years older than Leo, he looked more Mature, he looked convincing as Psycho Business man. Leo would have been a very young looking Patrick Bateman.

This would've been insanely good, wish it really happened

Or the fact that Tom Cruise is Bateman's neighbor and runs into him in the elevator of their apartment in the book.

I would have liked to have seen the park bench following him or the scene where he goes to the zoo…

Yeah then he played a POW in Rescue Dawn before The Dark Knight, and a drug addict in The Fighter before TDKR. Dude's weight was up and down like a yo-yo.

Yep. Machinist to Batman. 125 to 225. 100 pound swing. DISCIPLINE

Yessss, amazing film

@@richieclean he says hes going to stop and he should shit like that will kill him if he carries on

@@paulelroy6650 that must've been right after he put on all that weight to play Dick Cheney 😁

The Deliberate Stranger. Ted Bundy only killed strangers. I you knew him, you were safe, because he would see you as a real person. Mark Harmon played him in the mini-series.

I've used the phrase "don't just stare at it, eat it!" out of context so many times, it never gets old haha... Luckily 99% of people seem to miss the reference!

Do you like Huey Lewis and The News?

@@zombiefinatic7033 did you see the sketch huey did as he was patrick batemankzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNFhaKtntdCmmac.html

@@Greenwood4727 Nope but that was fucking great, thank you hahaha

@@zombiefinatic7033 i mean i love it when stars know and parody themselves, makes them more human.

Oh best believe i went on a deep dive about this film afterwards! I honestly think the second option is a very real winner

It makes also sense that the real estate lady cleaned up the apartment, no questions asked, so she could sell it again. That's definitly what was intended by the novel, as confirmed by the author. But I think in the movie they left it more or less ambiguous, probably to make you think about it a little longer 😅

My main take away is that it wouldn't matter if he really was murdering people or not, becuase of the selfishness of that world, nobody would of found out or even cared anyway

At the end, after Patrick's lawyer tells him had dinner with Paul Allen in London, you can hear one of Patrick's friend talk in a British accent.

There is another explanation, a more sinister one. As we can see, no one in this movie cares about anyone but themselves. You may wonder why this fact is important, it’s because Patrick actually killed Paul Allen and other women and everyone in this movie is trying to cover it. Think about it, when Patrick visits the apartment where he stashed the women he killed, we can obviously see that landlady is testing him by saying “Did you see the advertisement on ........ ( I don’t remember where)” and Patrick says yes, she tells that there was no advertisement on ......... and tells him to leave. She knows that Patrick killed those women. Why she cleaned the house? To sell it for a good price, if she didn’t clean it, she would’ve to sell it to a lower price, because of all the murder happened in it. Secondly, the lawyer covers the fact that Patrick killed Paul Allen. How? When Patrick tries to talk him, he immediately calls him Davis, not because Patrick is actually a guy named Davis or he thinks Patrick is Davis, because he wants to make people around him think he is talking to someone else named Davis, if Patrick says anything related to the murder of Paul Allen, he doesn’t want anyone to witness he and PATRICK talking about it. And he obviously tries to avoid the awkward conversation to prevent anyone hearing about it. But Patrick insists, and lawyer actually tells Patrick his alibi for him by saying ”I had dinner with Paul Allen.” HE DIDN’T. he knows Patrick killed Paul and when Patrick insists he is basically saying “I know what you did, I am trying to cover it because you are my client and I don’t want to represent a fucking murderous psychopath, accept the alibi I made for you and shut the fuck up” you can see when Patrick says “no you didn’t”, lawyer makes an expression and Patrick figures that he is covering for him. You might think that if all of these murders happened, what the fuck were the killing spree and exploding police car right in the alley? Those weren’t real and Patrick was imagining them. He is a schizophrenic person but that doesn’t mean he is also a murderous psychopath.

😂😂😂

Oh my god... It even has a clickbait thumbnail....

I can't believe the patrons preferred It's Mr. Videos reaction to mine!

The best part is how they care so much about the details, and yet on all of their cards ”acquisitions” is misspelled! What’s more, on Patrick’s card there’s an error in that there’s no space after the & 😂

I don’t get how can that upset someone. I mean it’s fictional and it’s just a book. Try watching Isis videos.. now those are horrific,sick and will make you almost throw up the first time but like anything you see many times you get desensitized. It’s one thing to read a book where a horrendous murder is told and completely different to see a real person getting burned alive, head cut off, drown, shot, getting driven over with a tank, man tight by his arms spread into two trees and getting both his arms cut off with a sword, person being thrown from the roof and the list of disgusting and sick ways Isis executed people goes on.

@@IntoTheWhite04 Not really. You see there’s a difference of watching a video and doing it yourself. I would never hurt anyone other than for self defense.

@@Timo8.2. you don’t need help, you’re just being an edgelord. I’ve seen plenty of the same videos you have and maybe more. This is a work of art which takes you purposefully through emotions. ISIS videos are just gore and violence on film. They are different ways to learn about related, but not identical, ideas. I think what you need is someone who actually would engage you. You say something you know will trigger people, expecting no one to actually start a meaningful conversation. Hope you take care of yourself, buddy. There’s people who love ya, and if not, there’s always people who want to love and be loved. It’s better than living in a world of hatred and pain.

The director confirmed that the murders did actually happen

we done Looper and Arrival yet?

NCFOM!!!

He should watch both! lol

Oh yes. If he actually hasn't seen No Country For Old Men, it's a must.

No Country for Old Men is incredible

Guess what? My glasses are Oliver Peoples too. No wonder I liked them the second I laid eyes on the them lol.

with romalian type?

But do they have a watermark?

IT is also a comment on how t hey are all completely interchangable, they all have the same hairstyle, business card, eat in the same restaurant, have the same type of girl as their gf and so on despite thinking by being best or having eggshell instead of paperwhite that it makes stand them out (for real, do these cards look to anyone a lot different? To me just slightly and some are downright horrible looking) ... it is a satire on yuppie culture as much as it is on Bale being a literal "Character Mask". It is how in the way he consumes tries to differentiate himself, but isn't able to. When that fails, he resorts to killings to stand out... but even then, in modern society, no one cares about a few dead homeless or hookers... so a critique on the modern world and our indifference as well. In addition to that it can get quite theoretical and philosophical in a sense that you apply a symbolic value (i.e. the cards or the way he explains the music) to mundane things and in such a way try to make them unique, diversify yourself by that. Still, there is no real human character behind that, it is again just a means of setting yourself apart that has nothing to do with you as a person. Hence the "dream" sequence and debating if it was all just in his head or rather real. This is somewhat a bad choice I feel because in the movie because it would have been so much more powerful if there wasn't that ambiguity and literally everyone really mistook him and didn't give a fuck he carried all those murders out.

Very interesting!! I didn’t even take it that way!

I found that super interesting and felt the same way!

@Dexter Morgan The funny thing is...I don't think this film is all that unrealistic in terms of big money companies. I think a lot of higher ups aren't much more likable than most characters in this film.

@@nikolaiquack8548 Well, the author of the original book only turned Patrick into a killer AFTER actually meeting and having dinner with yuppies for research.

In the book, Patrick has a kinda-sorta healthy relationship with his secretary that grows to be the only grounding force in his life. That scene where he calls her and is having a breakdown happens a few times in the book and she legitimately helps him through it

“Who are you?” “I’m Bateman”

Hahaha this is his prologue hahaha

All of them were real, both in the book and movie, also the director stated that herself. Only part that wasn't was the cat ATM part as he is having a psychotic breakdown

@@Desmond_Video_Discussions Whether they're real or not was never the point in the book. BEE himself isn't sure, and constantly flip-flops on it, something he's said before.

Interesting video right there haha

😂😂😂 that’s like my saying for situations like that hahaha

@@JamesVSCinema It's a good way to be! Really enjoying your videos, looking forward to the next one and thanks for sharing 😊

This! Personally I've found the Hannibal TV show a bit lacking in writing at times and made a vid on it but its so beautifully shot. Especially the cooking scenes! Plus the sound design is great, even if it does grate later on.

I have not seen Hannibal!

@@JamesVSCinema Been watching you for a while man these past few weeks. I reckon you'd love it. It's a bit slow burn though, so it might be worth asking people for some good episodes?

I absolutely love Hannibal, I think James would get a lot out of reacting to the series

What about Manhunter?

When he kills the homeless.... "you are a looser" ...Trump´s word

@@Alpha_Beats Well, Trump was a yuppie just like these guys.

@@SuzakuX The fact that Bateman was written as such a psychotic, materialistic, racist, homophobic, sexist asshole, all while being a huge fan of Donald Trump (and the book came out in the early 90's) is just hilarious. The writing really was on the wall...

@@cdsmith1990 Trump Is a sociopath as most billionaires and bankers become or always were.

Exactly, hahaha at this point it just comes with trust and that’s something I can’t necessarily prove unless people are with me

There is another reaction guy, not this guy, who i'm 100% positive he's seen most of the movies he's watching. He doesn't fake it well. Again, not James vs Cinema. That and every movie he predicts everything. 'Bet that's he's his father." "Bet he escapes with the blah blah blah." Like who knows every plot twist of every movie they see?

Yes I hope he watches that too.

Great movie until the ending. You've REALLY gotta suspend your disbelief with that one.

Ayyy thank you as always for the check in homie! I’m great! Hope the same is with you brotha much love!

Thank you Micah!! That’s really good to hear!

Wait how

Yo Samantha seriously thank you so much! You guys are the best

@@JamesVSCinema much love! :)

THE DEPARTED is overrated. It perturbs me how many people find it brilliant because I think it's a massive blow to Scorsese's oeuvre.

Watch the original Hong Kong movie first and compare the two!

Yeah scrap that and watch internal affairs

Ayyyy Diegooo my brotha!!

This

in the Top 10 movies of all time in my opinion

You'd be surprised how many people think that, and even wonder why the reactions are edited down. IT'S CRAZY!

Blows my mind every time hahaha

I don't think I could hold that facade for a whole reaction. And faking surprise is pretty difficult for me. I definitely couldn't do it lol.

wack

That’s incredible, seriously I’m truly grateful hearing this!