One of my favourite things about this game is just how much characters openly love each other. Lots hugging, kissing, touching foreheads and the like. It’s really refreshing to see how much the crew like each other and show with more than words that they hold each other dear. Like I was so happy to see Clive and Gav hug after Gav moved away the first time. I love that these guys love each other

One thing you missed about Jill, she didn’t grow up with the Rosfields because ‘she needed somewhere new to live due to the Blight’. The northern territories rose against Rosaria & after putting the rebellion down, the archduke took a northern Princess back with him as a ‘ward’ (hostage) to ensure they remained docile. Pretty common in medieval times to do so, often with the expectation that the ward would marry into the royal line thus uniting the factions and prolonging the peace.

I kept thinking Torgal would meet his demise, but we can all breathe a sigh of relief that he lives!

you miss to emphasize that 'magical' moment in where the kid start the fire manually using flint. It's the very goal of cid and clive to make a world that does not rely on magic /crystals. A world that will now start to think, invent and innovate.

If nothing else, Clive was a phenomenal protagonist. I loved his struggle, growth and deep relationships with his friends and family. I don’t think I’ve been that invested in a FF main character before except maybe Zack from Crisis Core. Bravo CBU3!

The ending cut me deep. Themes like brotherhood and sacrifice for your loved ones always just messes me up. It doesn't help I'm an older sibling so Clive's love for Joshua is extremely relatable to me haha.

I believe there are significant hints Clive survived. Allow me to explain. Jill's wish to metia and the symbolism associated with it. In addition in a side quest she claims Clive returning to her is "her sunrise" and what's the last thing we see Jill doing? Watching the sunrise. Clive is only explicitly shown as losing his left arm, which is the same arm he used for the final spell. He shows no other injuries. But the real smoking gun for me is the book in the epilogue. Hypocrates gifts Clive a quill and states his desire for him to write his story to which Clive agrees. We know for certain Joshua died as he did not wake up after Clive healed him. "not even the phoenix can bring someone back to life." So how then could Joshua have written the book? Well we know Clive has a habit of taking names from those he's lost and immortalising his brother through the book is certainly something Clive would do. Clive also acts as the narrator at the beginning and end of the story. The book reframes this as Clive retelling the events of ff16 through his story. Rpgs have a habit of giving golden endings based on additional content completed and most of these hints are dropped in side quests. Ultimately clives fate is ambiguous but I believe there are far too many hints dropped to say he died for certain.

It is likely Clive didn't die. The curse stopped at his hand as magic was wiped from the world. Sidequests imply Clive wanted to be a writer. It is likely he wrote the book and used Joshua's name to keep his memory alive. Also, it is heavily implied Metia granted Jill's wish (Clive returning with the Dawn) and Torgal holwed (sending a signal to Clive) as opposed to whimpering like when Cid died. Great video.

"The only Fantasy here is yours. And we shall be its Final witness!" - Clive Rosfield FFXVI

DLC focusing on the other Dominants would be great. I would love to play as Barnabas in his trek to become King of Waloed before he became thrall to Ultima.

FF16 has one of the best supporting casts in any Final Fantasy game, hands down. There’s not a single member of the Hideaway who feels poorly written or out of place. I enjoyed each and every single one of them. They did the legwork with their writing to make sure players would care deeply for these NPCs, fostering a familial connection with the Hideaway, and it makes moments like Clive, Joshua, and Dion departing for Origin hit all the harder.

10:30 due to the themes of will, I think it was their will being broken that prevented them from being able to prime properly. both benedikta and hugo had their wills broken by clive, but dion still had his will to atone for his sins against his people.

I really think the ending was left open to interpretation so that if they choose to make a sequal or DLC, they can have a route with, or without Clive. More than likely Clive survived, and the Final Fantasy book was either written by either Joshua himself who clive healed with Ultima's power, or the child of Clive and Jill as its implied with the ending text, and scences through the story the possibility she waa pregnant and named there son after Joshua. So many ways this story could go. I truly hope we get some DLC or a sequal. I mean FFX got it, we can only hope and if SMRPG can get a remake, anything is possible!

If a DLC ever comes, i want it to be a dominant of Leviathan, it doesn't make sense but i could see it working. He/she could be like a forgotten dominant and the story could take place somewhere outside Valisthea, since Barnabas came from another land.

Ultima is a godly entity that had split his physical body to possess each mother crystal in order to absorb the aeither, so upon breaking each mother crystal released a body of Ultima which would return to the original body in Waelood in order for him to attain much more strength. That isn't confusing, Ultima actually explains this at the end.

Gingy makes not only some of KZfaqs top quality retrospective\story analysis videos, he also seems to be capable of making the most at the fastest pace, with no seemingly tangible tradeoff in the quality of depth of analysis. Gingy is truly just built different. Makes me want to give the dude my money.

I hope they do a Final Fantasy XVI-2. Explore other gods like Ultima tryin' to fight over this promised land thing. And those boss battles, my god they're so dope

It seems you missed the conversation after we deceat Kupka for the final time, between Barnabas and Slepnir where Sleipnir says "kupka gave his life for a womans head." I thought it was obvious that it was her head in a box and obvious that someone wanted Kupka to go after clive and cid. This was all Barnabas doing to further Ultimas plan, he never cared for Benedikta she was just another pawn in Ultimas game.

what i understood from the ending that Joshua who wrote the book is Clive and Jill Son, let me explain : there is a quest that you talk to Jill and she say in a scene "no matter how dark the night dawn will always come and that you always come for me..." why the writers choose Clive to narrate the game in the start and in the end and why the last scene is Jill crying at night then stop and smiling at dawn and then Clive say "thus our journey end"... also they repeat the same point in 3 romantic scenes between Clive and Jill that they will come back to each other... and last thing why make Clive confess to Jill at the end i pretty sure there will be DLC about Clive and Jill maybe Happy ending...

This has to be in the top 3 best games ever made. Everything fits so perfectly down to the smallest detail, the theme, the story, the gameplay, the epicness of every fight, the characters, the characters' development, the dialogues, *the* *music* , *the* *voice* *acting* . Everything. It's one of the most mature games I've ever played in my 30 years of gaming. By the end I was expecting (wishing) the typical explanation of every little detail that was presented during the game, like, who are the Fallen, why/how exactly did they go extinct in the war against the gods, what happened at the crater of Dzemekys, why was Clive chosen as the Vessel of Ultima, how/why were specific people chosen as Dominant, why did some people become Bearers and others didn't... but you get just what you need and nothing more. Like in real life, you don't get all the answers when you reach the end of your path, and you have to choose how to live your life without knowing if the path you are taking is the right one. I'm not even too interested in knowing if Clive survived or not, it would be heartbreaking if he didn't, but that's not relevant to the story, nor to his development. He went from being an innocent, brave, talented kid, to a tormented anti-hero who killed his brother, to a hero struggling with his demons, to an all out wise Man who can lead others to freedom at his own expense. This game is an absolute masterpiece.

Hi Gingy. Just so you know you're amazing. Keep up the good work.

Hi Gingy! love the content. I just got my PS5 & FFXVI so i’ll revisit when i finish. Keep up the great work! Love your vids, your metal gear vid helped me get through multiple lunch breaks this past week.

Would it kill them to finally have a happy non-open ending? Especially in the game where that was teased heavily and we have the most solid couple so far?

This is the first final Fantasy since Final Fantasy 10 that I've actually felt an emotional connection to the characters and have a genuine caring for the story as well. Despite the lack of turn-based strategy and companion customization, I've never felt more at home with a Final Fantasy. You can tell that a lot of love and detail went into the story and that means so much to me. If they remade Final Fantasy 8 with this much care for the story and control of each character with group strategy thrown in... I would be in heaven.

i don't think clive dies though, the focus on the moon, Metia and jills smile at the rising dawn along with her prior dialogue at the flower fields points to him being alive, jill's wish at the start of the game basically worked, add to that the fact he literally narrated the start and end of the game, i doubt he would be dead if he narrated the story, also those children at the end look like possibly his and jill descendants, with the book "final fantasy" being a call back to the end of heavensward so the story is real

daaaaaamn how are you getting videos out that early man this was just what i needed to listen to while working on my own work XD love your work!!

Barbabas definitely was the one who beheaded Benedikta and during the first fight between Clive and Hugo , Hugo says about putting Jill’s head in a box like benedikta

I feel like we might get a Cid dlc, since Cid felt more then a side character that knew so much. plus I think it would be crazy to see how he left his kingdom and discovering they the mother crystal are the reason that is killing the land.

I love clive’s death as much as I would like it if he survived. Open endings are so poetic.

Somehow you make me wonder if you actually took some rest after the MGS video, but then again I think you did. Keep up the good work man

Just finished the game last night. What a journey it was...

The post credits book by "Joshua" seems to be the strongest evidence Clive survived. Joshua states very clearly in the game that the power of the Phoenix cannot resurrect someone. So Joshua could not have survived to write the book. Then the only person that would write the book in Joshua's name is Clive. This perfectly ties in to Clive's promise to Harpocrates to write a book about his journey, and how the story begins and ends with Clive narrating with an author's voice.

I loved this game from beginning to end. I absolutely adore this world and its characters, what a beautiful and incredible story. I mean the way they masterfully wove this universe together is nothing short of extraordinary and should be commended. They really went all out and I love it. Clive is my FF protagonist so far. I was actually surprised by how much I ended up resonating with him. He has great dialogue and a lot of emotional range, which is unlike the other FF protagonists I’ve seen who are introverted and hardly ever wanna speak LOL. The ending is tragic, but well earned. My only gripes with the story are how they went about explaining Ultima’s origins/motive; particularly where exactly he came from. The game says his homeland was consumed by the blight, but where was his homeland exactly? Was it on another planet, or a continent beyond Valisthea? This wasn’t made clear. Further, did he create the Eikons as well? What was their ultimate purpose? Why’d he make them? Also, who were the Fallen, exactly? Was Ultima one of them? I don’t think he could be, because he says his land was consumed by the blight, but we know the Fallen lived in the sky, so it would’ve been impossible for them to have been affected by the blight. The Fallen are like the elephant in the room because they’re mentioned so many times and vestiges of them can be found everywhere but the game never addresses the crux of their story. I wish they shed more light on that because I’d love to learn more about them.

I like how the game heavily revolves on peoples willpower. From the Will gauge to clive losing his will, only for Joshua and friends to help him in a time if need. It’s a great concept and Ultima couldn’t break that.

Personally the ending is absolutely legendary. I NEVER cried in a video game in 10+ years, but this time despite being a cold hearted person I couldn’t hold my tears. Square Enix…thank you.

Thanks for making those videos, makes work go faster.❤❤ So glad I subbed.

Clive lived. Too many reasons saying he lived. The curse went from his finger tips and spread throughout his hand and stopped when he stopped using the magic. This is to show that Clive isn't allowed to use his power anymore, not that he died. Cid had his whole arm petrified and he got more hurt the more he used his power sure, but other than that, he lived. Not only that, in a side quest, Jill says to Clive "when the dawn breaks , you always come back to me", and when the dawn breaks when she was crying, she looks up and sighs in relief and smiles. Also when you see the sun going up, you can see a shadow that looks like the boat that Clive and Jill was on when we first went on the airship, so someone is approaching the hideaway. Not one thing shows that he died. He basically just passed out of exhaustion on the beach. Many things from symbolism to Clive even narrating the story from beginning to end (which was done in Heavensward by the same writer), which how can he do if he's dead. Not only that, but the song that plays when the sun comes up and Jill smiles. If you play FF, you would know the symbolism and what that implies. And the Metia granting Jill's wish as well. She always prayed for Clives return and when she sees Metia fade, she at first sees it as a bad thing, but soon after it fades, Dawn breaks and she is seen to stop crying, look up, sighs in relief and smile, and seconds later we hear Clive say that that is the end of their story. Metia didn't fade because she lost her wish. Metia faded because Jill GOT her wish. I have no clue how anyone can get anything other than he's alive out of that alone, even leaving out all the other stuff. I think the answer is way more clear than people think. I don't think the story is up to interpretation as much as people believe. There are puzzle pieces in the game itself that explains the ending. Like is a puzzle up to interpretation because you need to put the puzzle pieces together? No. I am very confident that Clive is alive. Again, there are many many things hinting that Clive is alive, but absolutley nothing showing that he is dead other than him passing out on the beach from exhaustion. And why would they show that he can no longer use his power if he was dead? The petrification very clearly stopped at his hand after he stopped using the magic and we KNOW having your hand petrified doesn't kill you. Even bearers only died because they keep using magic to the point where the curse would spread to the point of no return. We have seen bearers who escaped with petrified hands that were fine or at least not dying.

I was skeptical at first, but I was wrong. The story of this game really hit me to my heart and core. The machinations of the vile puppeteers behind the tragedy of this story really made me feel emotions. The ending though moved me to tears.

Clive is definitely alive, the game devs gave all the clues throughout the story dialogues and especially in the side quests. Everyone's picking up some of the points here and there but to lay out the 7 points that basically prove Clive survived: 1. The final crying scene directly references the side quest dialogue. When is Jill crying the sun rises and she stops crying. This is after Jill and Clive have told each other how much they mean to one another in one of the side quests. During the side quest she mentioned how she would cry looking up at the stars at night during dark times. She tells him that no matter how sad and dark the night is, the sun will always return at dawn. And that she knows that Clive will always return to her. 2. Biology: Wolves howl in nature to communicate with their pack mates to tell them where they are and to guide them back. When Cid is dying in front of the group, Torguil whimpers to show remorse and sadness as but actually doesn’t howl even after Cid dies. So the fact that Torgal is howling instead of whimpering is indicative of Clive being alive. 3. The last thing Clive tells Jill is no more broken promises. He had promised her he would return to her no matter what. And we all know Clive is a man who honors his word. 4. Clive tells Harpocrates that after his quest/journey is done he will put down the sword and take up the pen 5. In the final fight with ultima at the end. Ultima tells Clive that 'this resistance is a fantasy he clings to'. Clive tells him that the only one living in a fantasy is ultima and that “this would be his final fantasy” (before Clive finally kills him). In the ending post credits scene, the book is titled “Final Fantasy”. The only one to mention that term was Clive in final battle and he was alone there. So no way Joshua would just happen by coincidence to title it the same thing considering it was based off a isolated conversation between ultima and Clive 6. When Cid died, Clive takes up his mantle and go by his name to honor the life he gave and what he stood for. So in the secret ending cutscene with the book author saying Joshua Rosfield, this would make perfect sense for Clive to do in order to honor his brothers memory. 7. If you 100% the game, the secret ending also has one dialogue line during the final fantasy book scene of audio of Clive giving the final narration saying “and that was the end of the journey”. Which is confirmation by itself that Clive lived to chronicle the story.

I am down to see a continuation of FF16, like a DLC which takes place in the modern day where a possible descendant of Joshua who is not only a skeptic, but also has the book wants see if the contents written within are true and are not just that of a fantasy, from exploring the ancient ruins of the locations that main game to even discovering (in this hypothetical DLC rediscovering) of a forgotten yet ancient Icon that is powered not with magic but by a concept such as Time.

I wonder how leviathan got lost, does it mean his dominant got insane and went into the ocean ? or something happening made it so no dominant could awaken it ? His loss didn't seems to impact Ultima'plan in the end ? Does Terence and the healer girl died during Origin's event ?

Hi Gingy! Just wanted to say, I really enjoy your videos and did anyone ever tell you have a nice storytelling/commentating voice? Keep up the amazing work!!!

Things left unanswered that a dlc could help with 1. The other fallen mother crystals prior to drakes head was it cid or ultima forcing them to go out 2.barnabas and the land he’s from all we know is he’s from some land south of ash (cool detail barnabas is the first disciple of Jesus and the most devout to ultima in 16) 3. Leviathan what and where is leviathan and why is it lost? Did it drink aether from the mothercrystal near kanver or ? 4. The fallen, from what we know they are almost godlike ancient beings and ultima in many games is an inter dimensional identity, and I’m wondering if it’s the same ultima from tactics and 12. Are they connected? 5. The final form of ultima is griever the most powerful GF from ff7 is there a connection there was a lot of ff8 references from the balcony scene to some little details in the world

I like the fact that it is completly open who wrote the book On one hand we have ultima + Phoenix powers may have revived Joshua but he mever moved a bit On the other hand we have clive likely taking on the name of others he wishes to uphold their ideals + Tomes quill gift hinting onto writing a book himself but.... u ..know....stone hand and stuff. It leaves room for ppl to talk and find their own ending in this story which I like. In my head I want both bois to live they suffered enough in this story. Well Dion did deserve some redemption but....well.... the only thing that can help him after the blow would be a shovel and a bucket sry Terrence.

The character development in this game was phenomenal! Loved every single little interaction between them all!!! ❤

Spoilers ahead* This game actually had me gasping at times and teared up 2 or 3. The ending and the side quest about torgal’s past got me good!😢 It’s not that strong but my head cannon is Jill had a kid with Clive from the beach scene and named him Joshua or Joshua was actually revived.

I think there's a scene near the end where Clive use his powers to revive/heal Joshua, so presumably he survived.

I feel like Clive didn’t die at the end because he always keeps his promises and promised Jill he’d come back. And if Joshua can come back to life after getting a giant hole in his chest and dying I don’t see why Clive cant

This Final Fantasy entry is similar to Tales of Arise in terms of romance and themes. Jill and Clive are like Shion and Alphen. Alphen and Clive were soldiers turned slaves turned heroes of their world. And the theme of fighting oppression is also similar. Maybe that’s why I like this Final Fantasy despite it deviating from the norms of previous entries. I’ve heard fans say this game is more DMC than Final Fantasy in terms of gameplay but the story seems similar to other entries. Fighting gods to obtain freedom through the power of friendship. I know that’s an oversimplification but the story seems similar enough, just darker with more mature imagery like sex and gore.

Great summation. Extremely well done!

The king has posted. I honestly have no idea how you have the speed to post videos so fast.

Thank you for making this video I really appreciate all the hard work that went into making this video, I am so happy and glad to be able to watch it. Ngl I am kinda surprised to see a new video but it made me happy with joy so truly thank you. Hope you have an amazing beautiful peaceful wonderful day

Me liking and commenting for the algorithm and leaving because I'm waiting for the pc version and I'm an FF fan so trying to avoid all spoilers.

Ultima didn't shun humanity. He believed his job was done and went to sleep until Mythos was born. But while he was asleep humanity strayed and ended up becoming advanced enough to harvest magic. They even tried to breach the crystal (which was Origin). This led to Ultima cursing the world with Dominants which were there to protect the crystals.

I have been waiting for this since the release of the game, i know i wouldn't be able to play it any time soon ( Because i don't have a PS 5 yet ) so was just waiting for this. You're one of the best youtuber story tellers😅

Decided to hold off on this video until I beat the game, and it was totally amazing. I enjoyed every second, even if there were a lot of side quests and such lol. Square enix really had time to cook with this one, and amazing video. I watched the metal gear one too, even if it took me near a week 😂😂

imagine naming your daughter "mid"

I just finished 16 and as a FF kid who played 1-8 on release, I think 16 might be the best FF game ever made. It made me FEEL, like...the story is just so fucking good. I had more fun rolling around the map with Cid and Jill than I've had in any other game for a long time. EDIT - I low key was fucked up after I killed Benedikta. My first playthrough was the "Benedikta banging and ice drugs" speedrun, at least from what i told my brother who also played FF games, and when I murked her - for real - and Googled "when does Benedikta come back?" only to find out....she doesn't....I understood this game. This game is maybe the best storytelling I've ever seen in a video game. Proof that a video game can tell a complex, adult-themed, and real as fuck story about the foolishness of long-term grudges and trauma.

I usually don't cry to works of fiction, but this is one of the few that I did

Joshua could be alive since there's a scene of Clive healing the wound on Joshua chest after defeating Ultima.

Very excited for this one, much appreciated Gingy!

Ben Starr killed it with his voicing for Clive. His scream for Joshua as his brother layed dying broke me.

I was just going back to your channel to continue with the mgs video and there you were with yet another video, man is really shooting out great content left right n center

Now that you explained the story i must play the game ❤

I just finished 😥😥😥 Absolute masterpiece…❤️

Honestly not expecting another video so quickly, much appreciated though

This game is special for sure. The bonds created though the story really made the ending hit hard. Haven’t cried at a game since rdr2 and this one earned it for sure.

Amazing video Gingy. I'm still a bit confused about why Ultima needed to have the mothercrystals destroyed, as the crystals are what is siphoning the ether from Valesthia's underground to the chamber inside Origin. Unless he needed the crystals destroyed to free the souls of his brethren who became the crystals in the first place to be able to join with them. Also, I may have gotten this wrong, but The Blight is said to be something that is following Ultima's kind from their previous world. Or maybe The Blight following them is just a product of them being over-reliant on magick and now that Ultima is using it to revive his people is what is really causing it. Be well Gingy!

Yes thank you. After MGS Video this one. Love this game.

Great video as always, keep up the good work and take care

Great video as always!

Great vid! I just want an ending where Clive and Jill end up happily together...

Awesome breaking down of the story. I was kind of hoping to learn more about the backstory of Benedikta and Barnabas. Jill and her kingdom would also be nice.

Thank you for this video. I beat the game, but was still confused in some parts but your video help me understand more, so thank you again.

Clive admitted to Hugo during their fight that it was him who sent Hugo Benediktas head

Dang man, you move quick 😂

im not sure about Clive dying. + we are missing 1 eikon Levaiathan which could be DLC

This was my first FF and the eikon fights were the coolest thing I’ve ever seen in a video game.

The voice actor for Clive did a phenomenal job. Also, did anyone else think Cid was Nathan Drake when they first saw him 😅

My guess is the red star Metia that goes out tells me that Jill prayers were answered or that metia was protecting him up to that point where he died. I like the former better though.

His little brother clearly lived as he saved him in the end you could see all the blood and wounds dissapear so he wrote the book and you can easily get a DLC of his brother and rest of the gang that survived.

I know it’s open ended, but I think Joshua lived to write the book because Clive used his own life essence to save him at the end. Because of that Clive sadly died via the curse, but Tomes likely told Joshua when he got back to tell the tales of Final Fantasy with the unique quill he gave Clive. And in the end, Clive’s dreams were realized because we see that humans saved the earth many generations into the future. Bittersweet ending to be sure, but man was it incredible. It’ll stay with me forever! 👏

The story genuinely leaves things open to the players interpretation at the end. Clive is quite the protagonist and for me one of the greatest written heroes in recent memory. Of course that is just my opinion but it has been a long time since a game or story has truly got me thinking. I think about my kids and being there shields. There so much too it and i hope that many people enjoy this game.

Red Dead Redemption series next?

THE MGS SERIES RETROSPECTIVE WAS 4 DAYS AGO HOW

I was waiting for this video, thank you. What an a mazing video maaan, by the time it launch on PC i will forget what i watched :D

Listen, I have this issue whee I have trouble sticking with a gmae unless someone I know in real life is also playing it or inteested in it. I need to be able to talk about the game as I play it or I stop playing. I'm literally not even through with act 1 of BG3 because the people in my dnd game stopped talking about it and the guy at work hasn't played enough that I can talk wihtout spoiling it. But I love stories. Literally all of my interests involve stories in one form or another. So I've been loving your videos. I get to learn the stories of video games I'm never going to play, and add a whole bundle of stories to my mental list of them.

Dude YES! ❤ I will come back to this after I finished the game, can't wait to hear your thoughts on it

Even though I cried my eyes out at the ending, I don't think that Clive is dead anymore after reading some posts. I think that the ending is set up in a way where if you miss out on some side quests you're going to automatically assume he dies, whereas you do certain quests which point to the fact that he survives like Jill and Torgal looking at the dawn or in the main story where Jill wishes upon Metia for Clive to be safe and return which comes true and that's why Metia loses it's light. That said, yes I was the one that skipped a lot of the side quests and interpreted it as him dying. However the possibility for Joshua dying is almost undeniable, Clive did try to save him but was it really enough to bring him back to life or did it just mend his wounds, also the book at the end could be written by Clive or Gav.

I have heard it was cut content as well, but it might have a chance to come into the game somehow. I noticed a few things that seem odd. So what we do know is :Early in the game they mention the world has 8 Eikons : Odin, Bahamut, Phoenix, Shiva, Titan, Garuda, Ramuh, and Levithan...because the world never knew of Ifirit until Clive. Very oddly, Levithan is not searchable with Tombs (even fully leveled) while all other Eikons are. So how can people speak of Levithan...but there is nothing we can read up on of it? Outside of being mentioned in like 2 conversations as "Levithan the Lost" (interesting word choice). If you go into your room at the hideaway and look at the mural on the wall, you can clearly see Levithan in it. Was this when they challenged Ultima last time and failed? Wouldn't the Eikon be passed down to someone, or is he still out there somewhere? I dunno... Totally possible they stripped it out of the game and missed a few things, but it could also be that they are not focusing on it on purpose, so there is something to add to later. There's a lot of options they could do here with that.

@Gingy great video, thanks for putting it all in perspective. You did an even better job than Vivian and Hapocrates. I just have one doubt remaining. The hooded man at Phoenix Gate - how did he know that Clive was Mythos? Also did he give the ifrit eikon to clive because before that point of time, clive hadnt shown any signs of being a dominant? The origin of Ifrit is still a bit unclear.

If there is a DLC, I'm willing to bet that it will be about Leviathan. Recall that Joshua discussed "Leviathan the Lost" when researching Ultima and the Eikons. Leviathan was BY FAR the most memorable and epic boss/summon from Final Fantasy 15, and is nowhere to be found in the main story of 16 besides that line from Joshua. I think that's a good setup for a DLC expansion which explains what happened to Leviathan the Lost

So lorewise, is Clive the 2nd strongest protagonist after Lightning and WoL (FF14)?

There are certain parallels I noticed between XIII and XVI: -The L'cie are like the bearers. Both are physically marked and shunned by society because they have been marked by a higher deity. -Both final bosses: Ultima and Bhunivelze, are arrogant gods who underestimate human will, and when they are defeated, the world becomes void of magic or resets itself from any kind of magic -And I might stretch it a bit saying that Lightning Returns and XVI are similar because you only control one character.

Love how much Gingys been posting recently

is it just me but they sure make Shiva kinda weak where jill is normally needed to be saved alot.

Clive is best character ever.

Small correction. Clive took Titans powers after his first fight with Hugo. This also reinforces that even tho Clive takes the abilities of eikons the original dominants can still transform

Love this video! Will you make a complete FF series retrospective?

After just beating the gane myself, like literally as I write this comment, I do think that Joshua survived. My guess is when Clive went to fix the hole in Joshua's chest he used a mixture of the Phoenix and Ultima's power, which thus brought him back to life so that he could write the book. I also like how, if this is the case, Joshua is essentially the new world's version of Moss The Chronicler.