I have repressed memories of playing cards against Edea as a teen. That struggle was way more real than Ultimate Weapon.

I get emotional thinking about Edea because she's actually such a kind person. She was a woman cursed with powers, but gave all the love she had in herself to children whose parents died in a war, gave them food, shelter, and the means to defend themselves so that they don't suffer the same fate all over again. She also allowed Ultimecia to possess her because she refused to let Ultimecia harm any of her children. She embodies all the qualities of a good mother.

Edea is way more iconic and memorable than Ultimecia for sure.

The first 30 seconds of silence were weird EDIT: It's just super quiet compared to narration

This game really could benefit from a proper remake, so that the developers can flesh out more backstory of the characters, fix the issues (mainly the monsters leveling system, balance the junctions and limit breaks so the game won't be so easy to break) and of course have a bigger Laguna section.

As much as i love the FF7 Remake, i can't help but feel this game would had benefitted even more from the formula, specially since time travel is already an established plot element.

It must have been a weird situation for Cid - he started the entire Garden establishment, knowing that ultimately the entire thing was only for Squall's benefit to realise his potential to defeat the sorceress in the future as fated. It also makes sense that he appoints Squall as SeeD's leader, saying to Squall that it is his fate, his destiny, to lead SeeD in defeating the sorceress, and Squall angrily berates him for talking like it had been decided since his birth. It had been - and Cid (through Edea) knew.

To me, Edea is a truly genuine person who wanted the best for the ones around her. Her story says something about the duality in people, but intentions are what's most important. I'd love to get more insight into Selphie or Irvine! Thanks for an awesome story.

Perfect timing for this vid as I've been obsessing over this game again! Great content as always!

For me, the whole Edea assassination part of the game felt soooo spectacular, probably partly to Fithos Lusec parade and the dramatic twists. It really stuck with me as one of the greatest parts of any FF game.

Edea is one of several major landmarks in FF8 which captured my heart in my teen time. I played FF8 as a mean to learn English from reading dialogues in the game. Edea first appearance in Deling City (in her private chamber) was so overwhelming. I felt like her every movement could express its meaning without sound. She was a total package of main antagonist, enigmatic gorgeous manipulative and also ruthless. It was kinda fun to figure out along the story who she really is. I think most of FF8 players would consider her the official bad guy more than the elusive Ultimecia who never showed up until the end of the game. As Edea the matron, her conviction and determination is astounding. She has done her best to go against her fate. One thing i like about Edea is that she doesn't sugarcoat things. She is kind but she doesn't beat around the bush or mindlessly talk BS (like her husband did during disc 2 and 3.... Honestly i kinda wish Edea would dump him lol) to her kids. Her speech at the orphanage to Squall in my opinion was well thought-out and it's like she knew the perfect time to do it. She's one of few decent adults in FF8 (i could only think of Raines, Dr. Kadowaki, and Kiros) where some grownups seem to forget their maturity somewhere. Thank you for Edea's video... Since it's a female character i'd vote for Celes from FF6.

I feel like the story of this game is one you have to play multiple times to really appreciate. it's so deep and there's so many things I didn't notice/pick up on during my first playthrough

It's pretty cool that Ultemecia giving Edea her powers is the actual reason why she can possess her from the future in the first place. Ellone can only send someone's conciousness to the past into someone she knew. Assuming the Junction machine: Ellone works the same way, it could probably let Ultimecia trace her power back to every sorceress in time that wielded it, and take possession of them.

Ff8 is my favorite ff game. I could easily say that edea is my favorite character in any ff game. So well rounded and the most humane character displayed in any ff universe.

When I was little and used to watch my brother play FFVIII, I had a lot of nightmares where Edea would kill me and my friends with her powers. That is, until I discovered she's actually a good person. Then the nightmares stopped and she became one of my favorite characters.

I love FF8 it’s one of Underrated FF game and I remember PS2 Tech demo that the first time I think Square Decided to do a remake or something like this it’s always compared to FF7 and we know that’s Unfair 👌

Edea might just be my favorite character in the whole Final Fantasy universe.

YESSSS!! Soo happy you guys did an origins video for Edea!!! Thank you!!

Loved 8 minus the junction system, and before anyone says I was just too stupid/wasn’t paying attention as to how to use it correctly, you’re absolutely right.

Princess ashe is a great one to cover

Nice seeing FF8 getting some more love recently!

Yuffie please! Also, I remember on my first playthrough not being able to wait to take Edea down, but learning she wasn't the actual main antagonist. I think it was the first game that made me look into characters to try to figure out why they did what they were doing.

Out of all the FF Origin videos, I NEVER get tired of hearing about (MY FAVORITE GAME) Final Fantasy 8! Years later, and the story of this game is still awesome! And you guys giving me a history of the game makes me love it even more! THANK YOU!!!

Thank you so much for this origin for Edea Kramer I just started playing it Last Friday. She was very lovely.

Edea had been told that she was no longer a Sorceress before she left Esthar. That she'd given up her powers already. Zell explains this when everyone meets up again on the Ragnarok.

ANOTHER AWESOME VIDEO! i can't believe how I'm always learning something new about this game despite how obsessed I am over it... thank you for such a well-made video as always.

The scene where Edea appears out of nowhere to manipulate Seifer while Succession of the Witches plays still gives me goosebumps.

Posted 5 minutes ago. I've never been this early to one of your videos! Sorceress Edea is one of my fave characters in the game, besides Seifer!

Thank you for that awesome video, I've always been obsessed with Edea ! Could you consider making a video on Lady Yunalesca ? I've always find her fascinating

All the 8, give it to meeeeee ❤️

I'd like you to cover Selphie from Final Fantasy 8. Or Irvine. Or any of the rest of the main cast please.

Wow! This was really interesting for me. I never did finish 8, I had a borrowed copy and ran out of time (darn train sequence) - I never got this far into the story. Definitely a compelling character and with this duality to her, one of the more complicated "bad guys" in Final Fantasy that I've learned about!

Yunalesca or Celes would be great

you nailed the narration,energy and production! perfect!

Awesome video guys! I have spent so much time thinking about this game over the past decades, but am not really sure that I ever thought about Edea first inheriting Ult's power and then later being possessed by it. That's bizarre! As for the next origins, how about Lady Yunalesca or Princess Ashe?

So, you wanted a comment on Edea, she was the only female Opposing side Same side, Time shift shit that also solicited this idea of power and what the cost really is. Thank you for sharing the creation knowledge of the prime sorcerers god guy thing. Even he had to share it, so he chose wisely. and so did Edea with squall... A completion of the cycle. But retention of the nature of being a sorceress. I had forgotten just how deep, eloquent and yet simple/brief and never overstayed in You're Role Playing of Their Story. This game actually added alot of salvation into me. Even with how is is, there still is. peace.

Please do Garnet Til Alexandros XVII! Her story was so powerful -- suspicion, betrayal, family issues by the dozens, eidolons; I always thought of her as the true main character of FFIX.

I played this game as a young teenager. All of this went right over my head. Especially when you throw time travel and spacefaring in there? Whoosh.

This is my favourite ff game, I've played it more than 10 times and I didn't know about the 5 years old story of edea. Awesome video

For a future person to cover I would suggest a forgotten character from a forgotten game, Paine from FF 10-2.

I would love too see you do one on ultimecia.curious what made her go evil and travel to the past, if she already rules it.

Yasss. You all are the best! Glad to support the page!

8 year old me being traumatized by that FMV OF Sorceress Adel ‘awakening’ 😩😩😩

Yesss replaying the remaster. Such an amazing character I wanna know more about.

Was wondering when you would have done a vid on her. Great video 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

I just bought this on the switch. It's amazing how much I hated the junction system way back but it has definitely grown on me. Great video as alw as ys🤘🤟🤘

I know people have said it before but please do Ultimecia >.< You did Rinoa and Edea and I would absolutely love to see her done as well.

The one character I would LOVE to see covered is Lovable Laguna (absolute favorite character) keep up the amazing work!

i want a remake someday with Ultimecia more fleshed out.

I mean, while the public wouldn't have known, her other role, as the feared sorceress, was simply Ultimecia, not her. One thing that's a problem in a story involving time travel, what was to stop Ultimecia possessing Edea at any other time? Seemed like she could possess any sorceress she wished at any time in history

My Teenhood Crush

Awesomeness!!!! Now Laguna,please!!!!

Great video! But I think you left it a little unclear on how the sorceress possession works. I would LOVE a video on that, as I've found it so hard to follow as different translations say different things on how the sorceresses inherit power and what that actually means for them.

Would love a origin of Ultimecia 🙂.

I would love to see a origins video on kuja

Laguna video next please :D

She deserves her own game

Pls cover oerba characters (fang or Vanille). I want to deeply understand their origins, when i saw your caius ballad origins video, it’s really amazing and i’m hoping you can explain also their life before the events of final Fantasy 13

What does Edea mean to me? She a total evil babe, that's what.

Beautiful story. Beautiful video. Keep up the great work

id like to see emperor Mateus Palamecia. I really like edea she knew what would happen but did it anyway. because she knew it was for the best.

If squall fights and defeats ultimecia (a reality that ultimecia knew would eventually occur) she forced her powers onto past-version-Edea, whom would be inspired by squall to create SeeD via timeloop repetition and setting into motion a series of events that would eventually reach Rinoa who would receive the sorceress powers. Based on the myth of Hyne and the origin of the sorceress powers, until a timeline exists where the sorceress powers cannot transfer onto someone, the world and its multiple timelines are held captive by Hynes magic which hosts women able to be manipulated into sorceress powers. SeeD attempts to combat sorceresses, ultimecia attempts to create a timeline where Hynes powers no longer exists...she is the overlooked hero of the FF8 story...

Y'all wasn't playing when you said that the channel is going full time! Keep up the content!

Well now I wanna know about Ultimecia.

I like the orange logo better

Thanks a lot. As always, it's a really informative discovery. +

I would love to see you cover the origins of Celes from FF6 or Rydia from FF4. They are my favorite! Thank you FF Union.

I don't know much about 8, Thanks for breaking down who she is.

Would really love for you to cover the evolutions of the summons in the FF Series, particularly Shiva and Ifrit.

It would be good to see the story of Ifrit of FFXV.

Man I love your videos, but how is it that every time I gotta raise the volume because you start in mute and then blast my ears with regular volume?

Could we please do Vanille next?

This was actually a pretty good video.

Video suggestions; The Cetra and The Gi tribe ❤

There is a problem here with her story. In the past she received her power from a sorceress at 13 and later started the orphanage with Kramer. Or that or it is a bad time loop. Because Ultimecia transfers her powers to Edea and dies and shouldn't be able to control Edea later. Or she did receive her powers at 13 we continue through the time line and Ultimecia appears in a time line where she never received those abilities and passes her power on to Edea and the dies leaving Edea with the full power of all sorceress from all time. This of course implies that she will pass on her power and later it will make ultimecia even more powerful in that next loop.

Remake 8 , 9 , 10 that's what people want . 7 was popular because of graphics and sephiroth the story in the original ends with a 15 hr grind.

Could you do an origins of Zell? And where did he learn to run around the world?

Great video, Jecht's origins next?

Shantotto Origins~ OHO-OHOHOHOHOHO (And I've been wondering just how powerful she exactly is)

This video made me wonder how she would have been fit into FF7. I like Edea as a villian. Also, please do an Origins video on Lani from FF9 if you have a chance.

I love Edea but i hate her when i try to get her Triple Triad card. Those damn Centra rules!

Thank you.

My favorite game of all time

Like, in a visual and musical sense, FF8 is one of my favorites. But in no way could I ever recommend it to someone not familiar with the games already. Edea is one of my favorite villains (?) in all of FF, but even after watching this video it really encapsulates how needlessly complicated this story is. Its kind of painful because it had everything lined up to be so good, but where it counts they kind of scuffed it.

Kuja continue with the villains

Dang, I really need to play FF8 again and actually read all of these things again. Even though it was my first FF game, I guess I really dont know as much about the story as I thought. Learned so much about Edea here lol

Every FF save for maybe IV which is 100% linear asd far as XP and story had some type of gimmick concerning leveling or not. FF1- Random stat rolls FF2- Dont even fkin get me started FF3/V/Tactics- Make sure you level characters as the job you want the stats from FFVI- Wanna be awesome? Try and wait to level as long as humanly possible( after +2 espers and even better would be after picking up your final character.) VII feels like 4 in that there isnt much difference between leveling or not, you miss or gain nothing. Characters will be what they'll be. Now the things you call broken about VIII I call unique. For instance I enjoy that early I can draw/junction for stats to keep from leveling (because monsters level with you) but you better believe for the final fight I'll be level 99. FF is a game of grinding to see how powerful you can become to face an Ultimate(pun intended) challenge at the end. Ultimecia delivers if you play the game right. Which btw. She's Rinoa. Idgaf what Kitase said. If they managed to tell any type of story at all with the timeframe they had to create that game...that would be the only one. If you remove the one instance it was denied, the evidence supporting it is overwhelming.

Great video. I wanna make a suggestion for Kuja, as I feel Kuja is the best villain in the FF universe

I love everything about her story (hence my using her name(s) for the last 15+ years)

I thought I lost my audio again. so I skipped to the middle and happy that it was not my computer

Could I request an Origins video for Garnet Til Alexandros, please? Loving all the content, by the way.

Wow! That's Prefect stay more Origins videos see you soon next video

Wow, after playing the whole game years ago, I got only about half of that information. Thanks! If the battles didn't keep getting harder and the summons weren't so long, tying together the dialog scenes in my mind would have been much easier. Also, voice acting and the characters having faces that looked unique would have really helped. When I tried to understand the game after seeing the ending, I didn't even remember the brief scene about Hyne and how it all started, and it is the one thing that makes everything else make more sense. Having so much drama and having no voice acting really made it difficult to follow in general. At least Hyne gives some kind of meaning to Ultimecia's power and motives--she is like the ultimate incarnation of Hyne's power. I just assumed either R=U (after reading plot theories since I didn't know for sure whether the plot made sense) or that the plot was drivel. If only it were directed better, then the story and meaning behind all of the confusing details may have come together better. FF7 is great but has the same director who spread details out too much in the same way. The major explanations of the plot of FF7 are also essentially placed as easter eggs, unfortunately--though I did a nearly 100% playthrough and didn't suffer from that problem. In FF8, along with solving that, more characters and character development, which FF7 at least had, would help as well. Ultimecia is basically a cookie cutter villain even with all of the possible correlations with Hyne. I didn't even realize the scientist guy was connected to Edea and Cid and that's how he knew Ultimecia even existed. If the game explained more about how he knew it was her possessing Edea that would have really helped.

Love any video you do on FFVIII

What I have noticed was that the orphanage design looks a bit the same, as the Deep Research Center when you have to go down to fight Ultima Weapon. They all look to be inspired by Roman architecture but at the same time, they could be related in some form?

Just got the remaster on switch as it was on sale. Still dig this game

Bit of a stretch. But I’d love a Y’shtola origins video sometime. Can’t deny she’s a personal favorite. Dunno if I’m the only one there 🤷‍♂️

love the story from FF8 but hate the junction system

can u do an “origins”about Tseng from FF7? 😆

I would love to see an origins video on Fran from FF XII. Also Aranea from FF XV would be another good one.