The fact that you don’t like necron coming out of nowhere means the devs did a good job. You aren’t supposed to like it. It’s a slap in the face. You thought you did it. You beat the main villain and won, and the villains actions brought out an evil who’s decided to be life. After being bloodied and beaten up, a fight you don’t expect arises and now you HAVE to fight to really put it all out in the line to Win. This is the realest way some thing bad happens. Under your nose and out of nowhere. Truly remarkable writing and done very well.

I didn't hate the fact that Necron shows up after defeating Kuja. Deathguise was a brick wall, Kuja was the mission, and Necron was the achievement. No one expected him, unless they read a walkthrough, so you could prepare for Deathguise, you were prepared for Kuja, but Necron was a test of your ability to stay alive. The whole point of him was that you were beaten and bloodied, but wouldn't give up on life, which was the whole point of the story, of every character's story, was not to give up and accept the fate others hand you. You're supposed to be caught of guard by him, he arrived as the worst possible moment, because he's the last thing you would expect, an extra-dimensional being who has watched the universe Gaia belongs and has finally decided that his theory is correct and life is overrated.

What's up with all the Final Fantasy final bosses ultimate goals always being to bring the world to a void or nothingness? LOL...anybody else notice this same pattern?

Why is everybody so mad that Necron came out of no where? I've noticed that seems to be a recurring element in a lot off the FFs. Final Fantasy 3, the Cloud of Darkness came out of NO WHERE. Final Fantasy 4, that last boss came sort've came out of NO where. And Final Fantasy 13 and 13-2 bosses came out of NO WHERE! I havent played a few of the FFs YET... ...but I've come to notice that theres always a bigger boss that hasn't been talked about that always comes after the final boss you thought was the final. Does that make sense...?

I never noticed the eyes closing and opening in this fight. I also didn’t realize the eternal embodiment of Necron never died but most likely returned to back to it’s dimension or another dimension.

I think Necron was meant to be a callback to Neo Exdeath, Final Fantasy V's final boss, which makes me subscribe to the theory that Necron represents the "back" of the Iifa Tree. Why? -Exdeath was once a tree in the Forest of Moore that housed a ton of evil spirits. If we follow that logic, it only makes sense for Necron to be linked to the evil within Iifa Tree. -They both share the goal of omnicide, including themselves once everything else is gone. Their logic for doing so is different, but the destruction of everything is basically the ultimate evil act. -If you listen to Necron's theme and Neo Exdeath's, you might notice a few parts are extremely similar. -They both have Grand Cross, and they have the same effect - a chance of inflicting any number of bad status ailments at random. Anyone else agree?

Err Necron just quoted yoda at 0:26... “Fear is the path to the dark side…fear leads to anger…anger leads to hate…hate leads to suffering.” Yoda, The Phantom Menace

Aesthetically, I think this is one of the coolest final bosses. Both the design of Necron, and the music are flippin' crazy good. Sadly I think what cripples it story-wise is not that it's unexplained, but how sudden it is. If they would've just made a couple references to the looming "Eternal Darkness" earlier in the game, this fight would've been just downright awesome.

I don't know why they didn't use his original name : Eternal Darkness.

The soulcage theory is wrong. To begin with, the whole theory is based on my English name "Necron" so that the clues gain a measure of "sense" but that is not my true/original name. My real name is Eien no Yami or "The darkness of Eternity". My battle represents the eternal struggle between the two extremes of existence The will to live and exist despite knowing where that road leads. The desire to disappear rather having to suffer such fate. My loss proves the will to live to be stronger

Eh... sorta but not really. Sephiroth's real body was frozen in mako at the Northern Crater for the entirety of the game, but he used Jenova as a vessel to carry out his will (his gibbering monologue in the Temple of the Ancients makes little sense otherwise) and it is really him you fight at the end of the game. Also he is the primary source of both Cloud's and Tifa's torment, who are two of the main-MAIN characters of FF7, the third being Aerith.

I may sound stupid but when you make your team for Necron does one give their life so the other will live? (Sorry I haven't seen past this)

It is indeed impossible to lose against Sephiroth, as soon as he casts Supernova, the battle is won, omnislash or knights of the round are enough to finish him off.

@Bananamatic I blew most of my AP guarding against status ailments. Most of the damage was supposed to come from Steiner's Shock.

There's a chance that Necron doesn't come completely from nowhere - there is a moment where Doctor Tot wonders out loud what happened to cause the crystals or whatever they are to separate when they started as one, and at least one person has said that could(?) have been foreshadowing Necron. Also, reading the older comments, I see there's a theory about Necron and Soul Cage being the same character. I didn't know that - I'll check it out.

I think there is one similarity between necron and soulcage in the fact they both tells you they are eternal

I had a hard time with Kefka. Maybe it's just me, but I hated grinding, so I never did it unless I really had to. It just takes up so much time to the point of ridiculousness.

UUUNGH Best FF BGM ever.

I still can't believe I beat this FF with my best time. I must be really wacko.

Err... You DO realized that Jenovah, NOT Sephiroth, was the main villain... right? PLEASE tell me you know this.

Besides, this guy DIDN'T come from nowhere. You've fought him before, about half way through the game. Just in a different form. He does mention coming back, though. ANY idea who I'm talking about?

True, but at least in Cloud's anti-benevolent quest, we get some justification in rooting for him because he's finally settled this grudge match that has taken up all of his attention.

Unloseable? Is that a word?

0:25 discount yoda

Yeah, Soulcage, but that wasn't even confirmed by ANYONE involved in the game design and is so ambiguous that nobody would know that if it weren't for Google. And don't claim you figured it out on your own.

realistically trance kuja and the necron are the only final bosses. deathguise u can beat and then save.

the beginning fucking scares me

You are the same kind of player that claims that Grandia 2 has the worst final boss of all RPG´s because they do not realize that in the Japanese folklore the butterflies represent death and rebirth. FF9 is heavily Japanese folklore dipped and to top it up, the English dub was horrible leaving behind a lot of the hints and meanings that gave form to that ending. Heck, they even called "Necron" to "that which is the darkness of eternity" The game made a lot more sense in it´s original version

Stupid youtube, thought you could hide this from me? Nope, BizTesta! Seriously though, nice to see the fight I could never do. This fight prevented me from beating FFIX in the first place, nice job!

I cheated ngl. I used theivery to cut through his defense and beat him really fast. Theivery cuts through all defense for 9999 if youve stolen throughout the game. My favorite move.

Ooh so you play a game where the final boss is unloseable? That makes the climax of the game so much more interesting.

I would have to give the vote for Worse boss ever to Yu Yevon. Not Only does he come the hell out of nowhere like necron, and add the fact that he's a Human Sized Bug... But if you're Prepared Properly Or Over Grind... He is SO Easy, especially if you have Reflect. I consider the Boss fights right before him The True final boss fight he's so bad.

oh I'm not gonna deny that you are absolutely right on that boss cause it doesn't do fucking anything and it's easy as shit

I beat this guy at level 1, and it's not that hard. I think ozma, AND MELTIGEMINI did this challenge hard.

Star wars D= what the frick?

Have you read the theory about necron being soulcage

When did I claim this, good sir? I don't remember that at ALL. Also, Final Fantasy Ultimania.

This boss looks extremely similiar to Bizarro Sephiroph.

No, your battle represents the worst resolution in video game history to what was otherwise a pretty great falling action by showing up because they apparently decided to have M. Night Shyamalan and Deadpool write the script for Disc 4 of the game.

yeah, known as one of the dumbest final bosses ever, he comes out of fucking no where

Me: "Yes, I beat Kuja!! Time to enjoy the ending to this game." Necron: "Cryptic methaphor!!!!!" Me: "Who the fuck is this guy?" Necron: "Vague, rhetorical conversation!!!!" Me: *turns game off* "Fuck this, I'll play a Final Fantasy where the final boss is actually the main villain and not some random fucker." *pops in Final Fantasy VII*

Welp, here is the moment in FFIX that is the most infamous and well known for the fans, the actual final boss: Necron, that comes right out of nowhere. But… in all honesty, Necron isn't even the BIGGEST problem with IX, I'd say that some of the biggest problems are Dagger's stupidity and the poorly done, unfocused love story of her and Zidane. Necron was at least last minute and a short appearance, and the whole "completely out of nowhere final boss" bad writing isn't even something that is unique to Necron, Final Fantasy and several old JRPG's did this cliché before, "Pulling a Necron" isn't anything new, but this guy's unexpected and arbitrary appearance at the end of IX is by far the most ridiculous example of this unfortunate practice, and the reason it's named after him. (Especially with how this is post-FFVII writing, you'd think that the writers would have moved on from this kind of bullshit) But if anything what is really irritating is that it's Necron that gets all the attention and focus as opposed to other larger problems with IX. What's also irritating is how some fans will actually try to justify his appearance. These fans will say things like "he is supposed to symbolic!" and "he is supposed to be a physical representation of the game's themes!". Okay, it's pretty dumb symbolism and IX's themes are all over the place and are incoherent, uninspired and uninteresting, and if the writers thought they were being "subtle and clever" they were freaking wrong, because this is about as subtle as a brick to the face. (There are even pretentious, long winded KZfaq "analysis" videos about Necron and trying to justify him) Some have also theorized that Necron is actually the true form of the Iifa Tree, based on what Garland said before about how Zidane "only saw the back of the Tree", which is a nice theory and all, but ultimately incorrect as the Ultimania completely josses this theory by stating: "Eternal Darkness [Necron] Monster created by fear of death A being awoken by the fear, despair and hatred of Kuja, who discovered, with the fulfillment of his ambition near, that he had little time left to live. It rejects the cycle of life through the crystal and attempts to return every world, including Terra and Gaia, to nothing. The final enemy to confront Zidane's team." (From the "Lifestream Net") Necron really is nothing more than just a random monster summoned by Kuja's feelings and the "symbolism" is nothing more than a cheap excuse and a cover up to the REAL reasons that he is here. The first reason: Necron is actually, like many things in IX, just a cheap reference to a past Final Fantasy, in this case it's a reference FFIII and the "Cloud of Darkness", the CoD was also an out of nowhere final boss for III that was brought upon by a person that feared death (Xande, that Kuja is copying from), though to be fair in the CoD's case, it wasn't completely out of nowhere, III repeatedly talks about the balance of light and dark and how if that balance is upset with light or dark getting out of control, it brings forth a cataclysm, and the CoD is that cataclysm, so it at least had more of a connection to the story than Necron did. (and the DS Remake of III at least tried to expand on this a bit more) Then there is Necron's actual name, You didn't think the last boss's original Japanese name was Necron, do you? It was probably changed because of text space restrictions, but Necron's Japanese name literally translates to "Eternal Darkness", as stated from the Ultimania quote above, and Necron even says his actual name right here in his dialogue (though the translation mixes up the words a bit) Is there a link here? The Cloud of DARKNESS (or Dark Cloud for a literal translation) emerges at the very end of Final Fantasy III to return all existence to the Void. The Eternal DARKNESS emerges at the very end of Final Fantasy IX to return all existence to nothingness. Hmmm. There also might be some FFV thrown in, given that Necron's design looks really similar to the Necrophobe, the optional boss you fight just before the final boss, Exdeath in V (that and the similar names, but considering that Necron isn't supposed to be his actual name, that could just be a coincidence), even the Crystal World looks pretty similar in appearance to the World of Darkness and the Interdimensional Rift, the final dungeons of III and V. The second and bigger reason: Necron is only here so Kuja can have his cheap last minute redemption, when you beat Necron, Kuja suddenly teleports you away back to outside of the Iifa Tree, and Kuja is suddenly all remorseful and the game try's to have this sad and tragic moment with him and Zidane. (will be addressing how weak that was when we get to that scene) Since having Kuja suddenly getting regretful and teleporting everyone out would have been too blatantly deus ex machina-ish, the writers threw in Necron to try and make the whole thing slightly more coherent. TL;DR version: The real reasons Necron is a thing is to be just another cheap shout out to a previous Final Fantasy and to be a walking talking plot device for Kuja to have his forced last minute redemption. (So the next time you come across a pretentious KZfaq video or some fan trying to justify Necron, copy and paste this rant to them)

I am getting Gurren Lagann vibes :3

I... will admit that Necron is indeed the worst final boss in the series. Coming out of absolutely nowhere an' shit. Though he IS a good fight, and probably the most challenging of the final bosses. Least he wasn't pathetic like Kefka and his Grand Cross can kill you, unlike Sephiroth's Super Nova.(Though it IS visually pleasing. But I'd rather have a challenge, thank you.)

FF9 was good, but FF7 kicks so much ass those 2 games aren't even in the same league. Here's how I rate my FFs FF7 epic, FF 4 and 6 great. FF 8, 10, 1, 5 really good, FF 2, 9 good, FF3 ok. The rest suck.