I wonder if they'll ever do a full remake in the style of Octopath. you never know.

@@GiordanDiodato since they did this one ...i would say no ? lol

I very rarely cry for anything, no matter how sad or emotional it is, but seeing new life being breathed into my childhood, to see this scene as beautiful as I imagined to be when I first played this game as a kid, that did it for me. I haven't cried like this in a long, long time.

They don’t even spoil it for you in the music box at the main menu, it says no vocals. Caught me by surprise

This version was the best of this scene and I love get chills from her singing every time!

i got so surprised with the 3d backgrounds. and when the voices came in for marias solo i started tearing up a bit. mightve not been old enough to experience this game 30 years ago but damn, this game means a lot to me.

100% Agree

Final Fantasy is the best video game franchise of all time ❤

This makes you cry? Wtf lol

It's not full scale but a rock version of Darkness and Starlight was in one of the Black Mages albums. III I think. It has the same bits plus the finale that was cut off in the game.

i think there is

I'm really surprised we haven't had a fully musical themed Final Fantasy done in the style of a rock opera

@@solblackguy If you've never heard it, listen to "The Impresario" by Jake Kaufman and Tommy Pedrini. It's as close as we'll get and it's SPOT-ON. Like Uematsu and Queen had a baby.

It must contain the Ultros and Locke dueling for Celes as well!

Which one is that?

@@hanselbarlowe2575 Spoilers: In World of Ruin when she throws herself off the mountain.

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@@andreseh87Wait, you don’t have a choice to try to save a certain NPC?

@@dumazroy3462 You do have that chance.

Combine that with far better lyrics in the modern translations, and I'm a sobbing mess. It's just so beautiful.

Bro, it’s so cool to see they are remaking games I grew up with.

Idk, the original has a lot more feeling imo

Listening to it, my friend and I felt like we could make out the words (by reading the lyrics and listening to the sounds). We knew it wasn't the actual voices but it pushed the SNES to its limits and thus was just as moving. This was great hearing the actual singing but the SNES version will always be special.

@@Ebani it’s called nostalgia. I’ve heard both, i love the remaster version so much more. People say her singing is bad, but I really like it personally

Me too. Just got to that part yesterday and I'm finding all these little touches and subtext that I'm wholeheartedly enjoying, even more than the first time I played it.

*16-bit.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Lol I thought it was great, both the male and female voice actors. I guess I am a complete amateur when it comes to musical appreciation. I know it was great because I started tearing up from the sheer beauty when celes starts singing. Just to me. I guess I am easy to please.

@@maxstone9999 is not that is actually bad, but celes singing sounds unprofessional on purpose and that hit me aswell in the feels. That's a level of effort i wasn't expecting.

Agreed.

She's very nasal. I don't like it. But then most western dubs are bad...

I highly doubt that this was intentional. She sounds like a real opera singer in all of the other languages… And the game implies that she pretty much nailed it.

@@Kbtoy789 you are right he is wrong.

Setzer would not have kidnapped her with such performance, he would notice it's a trap, besides she is a General no a simple soldier, I think she would be trained in different arts since childhood and would at least try to sound a bit like a real opera singer to caught Setzer.

I think it's likely intentional that she sounds untrained. The classic opera vibrato is unmistakable, and is a hallmark of the genre. It's actually a consequence of the singing technique and is not as controlled as one might think. In other words, an opera singer does not purposely sing with that amount of vibrato, it just happens. So if you don't hear that vibrato, the singer is not using "proper" technique. Though personally I find the amount of vibrato obnoxious even though it's "proper" lol

I think A lame excuse for it to sound so weird. Why can't she be a good singer and that be believable when people suplex trains and she is out there destroying gods and gigantic monsters from hell and she weighs 90 lbs.

Modders get on it

The 2D version of the castle made my heart melt too

This whole game in particular DESERVED the Octopath treatment, not just this one scene!

Her mouth moves to the words in the original SNES version. It's so bizarre that Square Enix changed her mouth to be static in the Pixel Remaster, which is clearly a downgrade. I have to assume this was due to added multi-language support and the relative complexity (or laziness) of the dev team to make lip syncing work across each language.

@@lowhp_comic I think the part where you escape the Magitek Research Facility (when you're riding the mine cart) also gets the HD 2D treatment.

The amateur singing was definitely intentional. She's a soldier, not an opera star.

@@anthonyjackson3526 Exactly.

Though in spanish she really sounds as a professional 🤭🤭🤭. However, it is just magical in any language ❤

lol

You guys are hearing what you want to hear.

100% Agreed..

It is, and I player every one of them. This game needs a full remake.

This game deserves an entire ground-up remake.

It deserved a remake more than FF7.

It sucks that they took down that watered down looking remake and made it look like this. So, I get to play through this again. I have played through multiple times and only ever beat the game on that ugly mobile remake. This game needs a full 3D remake. The characters look great in Opera Omnia, and look as if they could be in a remake looking like that.

Nah. I would be okay with more original games. I am excited for FF16.

@Raleigh Harris unfortunately Final Fantasy 7 has another mobile remake called Ever Crisis coming sometime this year. I did see a few fan made 3d Final Fantasy 6 remakes here on KZfaq somewhere, which looks unique compared to this one. Most of these Square-Enix Final Fantasy pixel remakes has this awful lag issues aside from the fonts most fans including myself don't like, but the soundtrack sounds better than the original.

Bruh really said final fantasy 6, the game that inspired everything about octopath, has octopath vibes

I mean, it literally is the Octopath engine spliced in for this one scene.

That's because they used the HD/2D engine they created for Octopath for this one section. They are remaking their first game in this engine Live A Live (the first game made by the creator of chrono trigger but never released outside japan and often said to be one of the best rpgs) They have said they plan to do more remakes in this engine so maybe this was a sorta test to see ow people would react to ff6? Was a crazy time for square then as FF6 - Live A Live - Chrono Trigger were all released one after another and I'd love for the other 2 to get a remake too .. can't wait for Live A Live tho

@@gishigoshi bruh really? he's clearly talking about the art style of this scene which is in fact remade in the octopath engine smh

@@MaximumCarnage- They're also remaking Dragon Quest III wiyh it as well.

Would definetely surpass Cloud's crossdressing scene if done right

@@sLasHeRxXx07 Okay you are the master of dry humor.

rekt!

Because Square enix rather you pay for a mobile phone game that acts like a free to play.

Celes is not some opera floozy, she’s a general! 😆

But yet Setzer is blown away by her voice. Is he deaf?

In Spanish and other languages, they’ve used opera singers

@@linkfreak404 What are you guys talking about? It sounds fine.

@@brucewayne1777 Agree I liked it

I was in tears and shocked at the same time.

Me too. Wow, this was amazing.

LOL HOW? The singing is so shit and out of tune.

@@RDR911 Maybe to you.

This version is by far the most beautiful one though

@@PLTgamer i agree

@@PLTgamer Completely subjective, the original has a lot more feeling imo bc they had to work without a way to convey it, yet achieved it nonetheless.

It's weird to me that they went this far is seemingly this one spot of the game.

@@ZenKrio If there was ever one spot of the entire Pixel Remaster series to go too far, it'd be here, the banner scene of the final game.

@@CyricZ honestly, ff6 is my favorite in the series, and I've never understood how this is such a significant scene to the game lol. If anything, where I'd use this level of effort? The World being Reshaped by Kefka. Celes suicide attempt. Terra becoming an Esper and going berserk. The rest of the Espers attacking Vector. The use of the Light of Judgement.

@@CyricZ wait.. I know you! You're the guy in Gamefaqs that made the biggest guide for this game!

@@Moldy135 in that case shouldn't the suicide scene also have the same level of quality??

No they'd just screw it up like they did the FF 7 one I'm afraid. The pixel remaster is the only remake needed.

@@Ashgrom 7 remake was great, what are you talking about? Sure it was different in some areas, but it respects the original while doing its own thing which is great. If they were to remake this one they wouldn’t change anything like how they did 7

@@captainpep3 7 remake shits on the story lmfao

@@flint8291 doing it’s own thing is not the same as shitting on it, just because it’s different that doesn’t mean it I didn’t respect the original

@@captainpep3 It's not just "different", it goes against a lot of things that were great in the original game WHILE it was being advertised as a true remake of it

This scene made a huge impact on me back when I was a kid playing this game (as 'Final Fantasy III') on SNES. One of the most magical musical moments in a game already FULL of magical music. At the time it had the greatest OST in video game history.

Why did they decide voices in these Lyrics? It was English singing and not Japanese signing.

This is the only part of the game that has any 3D effect. The rest of the game is entirely 2D. I *wish* they would have spent the effort to do the whole game like this, but the rest of it's a pretty much a straight 2d port with a lot of bugs, incorrect (Narche is displayed as a generic cave on the world map in PR, unlike the original which showed a city in the mountains.) or shrunken sprites in some cases (due to being adapted to the GBA's small vertical resolution, which this PR based its sprites on. Makes some bosses look less imposing.) and really contrasting overworld tiles taken from the GBA version (which were brightened to almost looking neon to compensate the non-backlit LCD). Also, some scenes and exchanges from the original Japanese SFC release were removed. Though, this has been the case for years... just, kind of disappointed that it's still happening in 2022.

@@StrikerTheHedgefox true, I meant this scene as a whole, rather the whole game. People keep throwing around demands for what they wanted from this port. I don't seem the point in the purist perspective. That being a port of the game with no changes, no updated Sprite or background work, or orchestrated ost. There are many ports that already exist to fill that purpose. The pixel remasters are interesting in that they can both keep the charm of the original while taking advantage of modern tech to enhance music and Sprite detail.

The singing is literally out of tune

@@RDR911 she's a general not a singer that's the whole point

@@RDR911 basic comprehension hard

This is remaster not remake.

@@manoharalisa5829 yes, but would a remaster randomly change graphic styles (it resembles 2DHD) at various points like this? No, the answer is no, it wouldn’t

When I was younger I would say this. Now that I'm 42 I say you can't remake perfection.

@@joselombana8381 no you cannot but you can improve it. There’s always areas of improvement even in perfection

I don't trust the current Square Enix to do it properly. The only way it could work is if they get Hironobu Sakaguchi involved. Otherwise I wouldn't be confident in a complete remake.

I was yelling "USE THE FUCKING AUTOCROSSBOW" all the time during the rats part lol

Yeah I was spazzing out when he was just using bioblast and shit.

Locke is my favorite character in FF period, Celes is right up there

People complained? I thought this was really really good.

@@esta7763 I'm complaining. It's the wrong lyrics. And yes, it matters. Oh my hero So far away now, Will I ever see your smile Love goes away From night into day It's just a fading dream I'm the darkness And you're the stars, Our love is brighter than the sun For eternity, for me there can be, only you, my chosen one. Must I forget you? Our solemn promise? Will autumn take the place of spring? What shall I do? I'm lost without you. Speak to me once more! We must part now. My life goes on. But my heart won't give you up. Ere I walk away, let me hear you say, I meant as much to you. So gently, you touched my heart. I will be forever yours. Come what may, I won't age a day, I'll wait for you, always.

@@herranton Do you say Aeris or Aerith?

@@esta7763 I say Aerith, but that argument is different. Her name was originally Aeris in the North American release. The _official_ game called her that, before they called her anything else in English. Either is really acceptable. But again, it's different. In the opera scene, they changed the lyrics of the song and thus changed the _meaning_ of the dialog. The story is different how ever so slight. Changing a characters name doesn't effect the story.

Same here! I was scrolling through looking for this comment

It's the other way around.

It's the best game ever made.

I've been waiting ever since the PS1 came out. People don't understand the level of fairy tale geniuses they had working for Square and anime in general from the late 80s to the mid 90s. Starting with FF7, square loses its mind and becomes obsessed with emo pretty boys covered in belts and zippers and shit. Plots become convoluted garbage.

It's not that weird, though. "Ne'er" is an established archaic/theatrical version of "never", so it's probably what they were going for here. They just didn't subtitle it to match the contraction, for whatever reason.