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Final Fantasy X-2.5 - The Widely Hated Prequel to X-3 (+Will) | REFFOID

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TomLazan

TomLazan

Күн бұрын

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@AverageBananas12
@AverageBananas12 Жыл бұрын
It scares me that "Will" exists because to me it tells me that they're doubling down on the craziness of X-2.5
@MirandaLemons
@MirandaLemons 4 ай бұрын
Impressed you made sense of all this. 😅 That fan translation is nearly unreadable.
@markmocerino9664
@markmocerino9664 2 ай бұрын
The thumbnail had me screaming 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JuFated
@JuFated Жыл бұрын
I hate these extra sequels because it robs the cast of their deserved ending. Like let them be happy and Stop forcing them do plot and character repeats, overriding the happy ending they worked for and earned just for sequelitis and money. Im guessing the staff dont really talk bout it because it got so much negativity so maybe theyre hoping people just forget bout it.
@tropichawk850
@tropichawk850 Жыл бұрын
Welp, this is the first video from this channel I'm watching as it releases, and the first after catching up with the channel as a whole. It was more difficult than I thought it'd be: Binging 35~ hours of content here before needing to wait for more, but I'm happy I made it. And what a video to have made it in time for. This novella has always been such a... strange little thing. Haha. I remember watching "Will" when I bought the HD Collection, then seeking out vague info on 2.5. It's nice to finally have the fullest picture I can as an English speaker. Aside from the fanfic theory/rumor, I've also heard it said that the original creator of FFX didn't want a happy ending to their story, and all of this nonsensical grotesqueness was a response to someone else writing a happy ending into X-2. I have no idea how accurate that statement is, but it's more believable than the fanfic idea, and it would explain a lot. In any case, thank you so much as always for your work on this video and I'm excited for the next!
@TomLazan
@TomLazan Жыл бұрын
I've heard that too, but I gotta wonder if he's that petty. Also wasn't he a writer on X-2 anyway?
@tropichawk850
@tropichawk850 Жыл бұрын
​@@TomLazan He might've been. I didn't pay much attention to that sort of thing until a while after the playing through these games. Either way, I also don't really buy it. It's just another theory I figured was worth mentioning.
@tropichawk850
@tropichawk850 Жыл бұрын
​@@TomLazan Also, wait, do you have a Patreon or something I can join? If so, I can't believe I never noticed that until now.
@TomLazan
@TomLazan Жыл бұрын
@@tropichawk850 it's built into KZfaq, you can join by hitting the "Join" button next to Subscribe!
@tropichawk850
@tropichawk850 Жыл бұрын
@@TomLazan Oh yeah; I forgot KZfaq has that feature. Thank you! I'll have to remember to join when my next paycheck rolls in.
@Wardiri
@Wardiri Жыл бұрын
"Square Enix doesn't like doing sequels in other systems." Square: Final Fantasy VII, my beloved. Love your channel! I have been following your journey for like a month now. And I'm hyped to see your XIV journey continue too!
@Chelaxim
@Chelaxim Жыл бұрын
I bought a PS4 with my stimulus in March 2020 solely for FFVII Remake. I also bought Ni No Kuni 1 and 2 and finished my backlog Pandora's Tower,Xenoblade Chronicles and The Last Story and came out of lockdown with a posh accent and people thought I went insane...but that's a story for another time.
@mrpenderz
@mrpenderz Ай бұрын
Damn, I remember hearing a bit about this extra story, but never realised it was so...weirdly spicy? What I dislike most about it though is the fact that it seems to completely ignore the rich supporting cast from FFX and FFX-2 in favour of a deluge of new characters with dubious motivations and backstories: where are the political leaders of Spira, Baralai, Nooj and Gippal in all this? Does Maechen have anything to say about this alternative history? What's Kimahri's take on the situation? (is he once again silently standing in the background watching Yuna and Tidus go at it?) The return of Sin feels a bit cheap as well. I hope they ultimately go for something different. I dunno, I had always envisioned the springboard for FFX-3 being the conversation with Rikku that occurs if you manage to get 95% in FFX-2, where she and Yuna talk about 'Rikku's story' in the future: a third game centred around Rikku would be the perfect opportunity to address the final mystery of the FFX universe, "Who exactly are the Al Bhed?" because I always found it weird how Tidus had lived out the life of a normal guy from Zanarkand 1000 years ago and had heard of Chocobos but hadn't heard of the Al Bhed, perhaps implying that the Al Bhed maybe arrived suddenly in the intervening time? From there it could transpire that they had come from space (to maybe tie in further with the FFVII connections hinted in FFX-2) and were initially shunned by all other races for their literal otherworldness. In the wake of that revelation there could be some tension between Rikku and Gippal against Rin and Shinra in terms of who will unite the Al Bhed and decide how they progress as a people, with Rikku ultimately prevailing as their new leader and they resolve to explore space. Or something like that anyway. If they're still keen for sex in it then I guess Gippal and Rikku can do that too.
@akiinmoonlight79
@akiinmoonlight79 Жыл бұрын
Your videos make me extremly happy ~ 😭❤
@RPG_Gamersdegree
@RPG_Gamersdegree Ай бұрын
Lulu uses the word "beckoned" in X it was early in the game, but it was only used once.
@janaxelblomberg7768
@janaxelblomberg7768 Жыл бұрын
I love this series, i found it while looking for 4 heroes of light retrospectives and yours was great, same with the whole series. You NEED more subs
@RoboFuryMan
@RoboFuryMan 26 күн бұрын
Remaking X and then drawing a bridge from there to X-3 with expansion on the Jecht/Auron/Braska lore I think would be the best course of action. Going from PS2 graphics to PS5 or 6 also doesn't make a lot of sense, and just picking up where X-2 left off doesn't either, and considering MULTIPLE endings to that. It's not like Kingdom Hearts where we have a consistent gradual change in the experience, but more like huge gaps with some really dumb fillers. I think it should have consistent visuals, gameplay, voice actors and such like the new FF7 trilogy.
@dzlatarev20
@dzlatarev20 4 ай бұрын
I wanted to correct your summarization of Velm and Kush. I don't blame you for getting Velm incorrect due to the half-assed translation, but Velm wasn't Al Bhed and he didn't create the "disturbingly realistic androids" (they're cyborgs, yup), that was a Bedohl named Alb who represented his people as a master scientist. He's watered down Hojo. XD Velm was just a man from Besaid who was assigned as a Guard to Kush, fell in love with her during his service, and shit happened with other Bevellian Summoners and Guards in the midst of kamikaze Zanarkand soldiers invading with blitz balls. Kush decides that instead of turning her beloved Velm into an Aeon Core (or Sacred Vessel as I like to call them), she agrees to become Ifarnal's (a Lucan Summoner who's in love with her, yes there's a love triangle). Since Kush and Ifarnal don't exactly have a close bond, the best they could do with the tantric ritual is conduct it sexually. Velm walked in post-coitus and flew into a rage, a mechanical Bedohl walked by and killed him, and Kush in her misery "beckoned" (more like summoned him) using her new power as a Sacred Vessel. Pretty much echoing what Yuna does now as of FFX-3. Kush did it for a thousand years. Yuna's been doing it for a year. The reason Yuna sounds dead inside is that to summon, you're supposed to draw on the power of the Fayth as a medium so you don't consume your own mana. (The scene on Mt. Gagazet with the wall of Fayth pretty much alludes to this). Yuna's literally dying keeping Tidus alive bc the Fayth from FFX don't feel like giving him plot armor. Otherwise, you're doing excellent work and I enjoyed listening to your video. This is Part 1, bc I'm still in the beginning, but I'm buckling down for the rest! 🎉
@toadvine9609
@toadvine9609 7 күн бұрын
I think putting sex/hetero pair-bonding into Final Fantasy as the source of some new power was Shinzo Abe's last secret act
@Chelaxim
@Chelaxim Жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy XIII-2 stays winning as the best sequel. The bar is in hell but a win is a win.
@beautifulsoul9477
@beautifulsoul9477 Жыл бұрын
You're right. I adore them both off the sound track alone.
@ClapperSfromMOOEYBUENO
@ClapperSfromMOOEYBUENO Жыл бұрын
The skill “Sex” was actually going to be introduced as early as FF7 but was scrapped due to unknown reasons.. and (you’re not gonna like this..) it was with Tifa not Aerith 😭
@TomLazan
@TomLazan Жыл бұрын
WHAT
@ClapperSfromMOOEYBUENO
@ClapperSfromMOOEYBUENO Жыл бұрын
@@TomLazan im actually wrong, it was an implied scene if you had a high affection stat with Tifa in the OG game during the Highwind scene with her and Cloud, but I know you rocked with Aerith so you wouldn’t have seen that scene if you were nice to Aerith
@soggycereal28
@soggycereal28 2 ай бұрын
knowing this is like opening pandoras box, you enjoy ffx and want to see what other content was created for it and then you find out about this
@avapark9948
@avapark9948 7 ай бұрын
I only heard about will as the audio drama where tidus cheats on Yuna and Sin just comes back. And for years I was like "ew why thats dumb" and I never listened for myself because I mixed up the fact that 2.5 was never translated with Will (which wouldn't have happened if it wasn't labeled as credits and extras but whatever). Personally I really like will now. Sin being back is dumb yeah but i guess if they just need a threat back the reason suffices. And I enjoy the actual reason why they broke up. Tidus didn't cheat, Yuna just wanted to protect him and the fact that he doesn't get mad and softly asks to meet the other man she supposedly loves shows that this wasn't weird Tidus character arc back tracking. That being said I hate 2.5 LMAO
@temmiekaz
@temmiekaz Жыл бұрын
34:17 YEAH BABY I MADE IT INTO A VIDEO
@danielhart882
@danielhart882 8 ай бұрын
Omg I was so scared when I heard this start , it sounded so much like my comments that I couldn't definitively be sure you had the full plastic experience.
@OGBabygurl
@OGBabygurl 2 ай бұрын
Square is cooking up some bullshit in the kitchen. At first i cried as this was my first FF game and i hold it so desr to my heart...but now this sounds so insane, I HAVE to see them make it ver batim just out of spite 😂
@austinlewis5459
@austinlewis5459 Ай бұрын
Have just found out about this during a X/X-2 replay and I reject it. It is not my FFX. I can write a better story than that.
@IsaacG8
@IsaacG8 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Final Fantasy X over X-2.
@daric_
@daric_ 3 ай бұрын
Squenix: Please just let X die. All these sequels keep making the story worse.
@SchizoKat
@SchizoKat 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video man. This gotta be the worst sequel to ever exist. For me personally the story ended with the perfect ending of FF X-2
@rredix
@rredix Жыл бұрын
New FF or Die. LFG
@user-nu8vw1ow4n
@user-nu8vw1ow4n 11 ай бұрын
2.5 book should be burn. Will? it should be destroy as well.
@torshec8634
@torshec8634 Жыл бұрын
"Blitz Bomb is a hazardous and extreme version of Blitzball" Shame Tidus learned it the hard way. And hey, I also want them to go back to finishing the last three episodes of FF15 because the novelization and Forspoken left a horrible, horrible taste. But maybe it's best to move on.
@nightfears3005
@nightfears3005 Жыл бұрын
Err, it is most likely one of the worst stories ever told in fiction.
@Slimjim2147
@Slimjim2147 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately since this book flopped in Japan I doubt X-3 will ever happen. I think this book was the attempt to test the water, and it was not received well so I doubt the current written script for X-3 will ever see the light of day
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