Still probably less than 25% of the content we received in Battlefield 4 by this point in the lifecycle. Far too little, far too late. The premium model, despite its flaws was far superior.

I hate the changes I like to snipe and pistol and rocket on assault class wuth mckay was unlocking the rewards for those weapons. Now I can't. I I want to get the rewards for rocket I have to use a different class it's actually stupid. Its dumbed it down with removing the possibility of making your own build using the gadgets with what you want.. bad change. Done with this game..

Battlefield 2 had 8 classes

@@Jonas-ej7id I think it was 7.

@@DarkCloud3000 yup 7, what Marv probably meant was the roots that made 2 turn into what 3 was (and 4 kept on improving) with Bad company being the biggest jump due to that change. While BF2 was very good, the elements transferred perfectly into bad company and etc, 2042 just went too far trying to reinvent the wheel (class system) while ruining some aspects we all took as granted in the battlefield series, along with a Portal that was a bit underwhelming after playing it for a few hours. They messed up class progression with whatever mess we got, and they messed weapon progression, vehicles are in a weird place with them trying to balance something in a vehicle type once in a while, either nerfing them or making infantry just totally blow it out (making vehicles useless). As the video said, they messed way too much with this title, it's bad if we keep saying battlefield something is bad compared to X and the next release is somehow worse and only then do people say maybe the previous one wasn't worse. WW2 was an example, it wasn't as bad as this, still missed some things. This 1 just really went over the moon.

sleeps is for the weaks

yeah that's what it is. Just give us regular soldiers and have the gadgets be tied to the class itself not the specialist ffs

@@nickysimi9866 exactly, it’s so frustrating

Not really. It plays different and adds a lot of readability to the game.

@@yayayayayaya8140 the problem still persists if you are in a squad that isn't working approprately or as a squad and it gives them the ability to refuse to work together because now they have this "proficiency" system. He is right, ithis isn't going to please everybody, but the fact this would have been better in the beginning but not included is still going to be haunting EA and the Battlefield communities

I mean, you'd lose more people than you'd gain with that kind of change. The proficiencies hit both sides of the community.

@@FSH-fv6ww yup I agree it’s smarter for retaining players, I just think those two changes would get the game even closer to ye old battlefield formula (which I would personally like very much)

@@dinglewhompus Oh yeah 100%. I think the proficiencies went far enough that most people will choose the class and the weapons together. However, it doesn't stop anyone from lets say going Mackay and sniping on some cranes on manifest.

Imo one of the flaws of other battlefields is locked weapons to classes, it just limits gameplay way too much

@@landturtle7470 Interesting. I've always thought that the limitation helped keep gameplay interesting because you have to play to the classes benefits while also playing around its weaknesses. For me its been more "constraint breeds creativity" while also feeling like you have a role to play. Just my take tho

Still playing it sometimes!

I played BF1 with Flakfire several years ago. Still the best damn BF teammate to date. 👍

I would disagree, support are supposed to be up in the face supporting their teammates which means SMG is what should be used. Engineers are taking out vehicles and lmgs can be used to help do that more than an SMG.

I agree , I use Angel with AA as well and loved the ability to drop a crate and resupply rockets. Now I don’t even want to play, as I have no aircraft defence game . Oh well…other, better games to play out there.

They only listen to their greedy shareholders.

@@adrnacad3434 and that's the problem with activision.

I think it's awful, i hate what they have done,nothing works correct and its just a complete mess, even the way you equip underbarrell has changed and even then you cant use smoke or incendery with it as you used to.deleted to make space for pacman.

So far its double its numbers and the trend graphs show it still going up.

Honestly I can see people staying, unlike cod mw2, battlefield is listening.

I thought that is what it already is. Recon can hold their breath longer with Snipers.

@@jcaashby3 from my understanding it's they get immediate hold breath

The problem is will anyone trust them for another game? I'm completely burnt out on battlefield currently and I'm exclusively playing 3/4/1 now. And if they announced another game I would not buy it until I see what other people are saying about it

No trust for another game for sure but changes were nice shows they are willing to admit and fix dumb decisions hopefully they learn but its dice and ea sp doubtful

Dramatic much? 😒

@@anangryspartan2502 battlefield is a big franchise, it wont die for just one bad game (well 2 as BFV was a bit shitty at the beginning, but still)

Most of the developers currently working at DICE joined after Battlefield 1, while most of the old devs left, with most of the new devs not knowing how the Frostbite engine works. So we will have to see if the next Battlefield game will be any good. (source: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpaci7Gil9DWd2w.html )(yes, i know youtube video's are not reliable sources but idc enough to find some actual sources)

it is the little things that make battlefield fun

its also making more people leave

Tomorrow

Indeed. Agree 100%. Spawn system is still terrible. This isn't a true BF game. It's a mix of BF and COD. EA is nerfs and buffs the wrong stuff. Only to please new players or casual players. Just for the money. If EA was truly interested to make the game better then they need to work on your list and take a look at veteran players and listen to them. Or they keep showing they are not capable and don't care.

Wow. That list is sad to see. I was a huge fan of the franchise and can’t help but wonder what they are thinking. These changes seem like the bare minimum that they feel like doing while they make the next game. I know development now that I don’t stream and can see past the shrouded veil. But it’s still just a guess of mine. 🤷‍♂️

No clan- That’s a good thing we don’t need 20 players with max ranks raping the game and thinking it’s fun.

@@Ohmygodstfu2045 That is called stacking and then it is competitive. Especially platoon vs platoon. We did that a lot in BFV.

It's sure alot better than mw2 when it comes to feed back that's for sure.

That's what I've been saying. At least dice can learn from their mistakes and do something about it. Unlike infinity ward.

@@1roxyfan491 I'm playing cod right now and it's an absolute fucking mess

@@hiderrsupbrah23 same

Honestly, i liked not having classes. The freedom was unmatched, and now the gane feels nerfed by not having the freedom to apply any weapon to any player. People do not fucking give you ammo and as a result tanks and choppers run the entire match. Sucks to see a good thing go to shit.

Same here bro

Which is my biggest obstacle with modern games, is that they turn into a heli shitfest quick.

No Igla, I bamboozled myself.

Tomorrow

Yeah, feels like Flak trying to pull a strawman

Ok. Good bye!

nope

I don’t really care about clans, but the feeling of being in a team has totally been lost imo. Hopping between the older Battlefields/Hell Let Loose and then trying to jump into BF 2042 is a trip. In 2042, the only way to tell if someone is an enemy is by checking the icon. Similar issue to Halo Infinite getting rid of team colors - enemies have red holographic outlines lol…. It has gotten me killed quite a few times in Close Quarters Combat. I see a guy with the exact same color of armor as my teammate and hesitate for a split second.

lol

I rarely, RARELY see AI.