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Finding the right mixture of luck and skill with Richard Garfield

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Board Game Design Lab

Board Game Design Lab

6 ай бұрын

In this BGDL rewind from May of 2018, I chat with Richard Garfield about finding the right balance of luck vs skill when designing a game. We also chat a bit about how to design a good collectible card game.
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@abwuds7208
@abwuds7208 6 ай бұрын
That was wonderful!!! Thank you so much! Questions were fantastic and what a great opportunity to listen to Richard Garfield. I feel so lucky
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, he's such a wealth of wisdom 😀
@michelebaioni5716
@michelebaioni5716 6 ай бұрын
29:16 Richard's self deprecation followed by Gabe's unintentional roasting made me chuckle... I appreciate you Gabe for your hardwork and dedication to BGDL!
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
Ha, oops
@allskulls
@allskulls 6 ай бұрын
This was great to listen to and I am all for more revisits to the old podcast.
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
Lots of great wisdom to come!
@bibleboardgames5199
@bibleboardgames5199 6 ай бұрын
A very interesting discussion! Luck vs Skill vs Mitigation vs Strategy vs Replayability. I remember playing NetRunner back in the day and some people thought I was doing fortune-telling. Games have come a long way!
@LewisCho
@LewisCho 5 ай бұрын
Great podcast 🤘
@watershedpublishing
@watershedpublishing 6 ай бұрын
Love the topic. Can't wait to listen.
@LeoCreatini
@LeoCreatini 6 ай бұрын
Nice podcast: great questions and insights - liked and subscribed, thanks!
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@zachcarmichael699
@zachcarmichael699 6 ай бұрын
Would love to see an episode on the future and innovations of the deck-building genre. I know you had a couple of episodes from a few years ago on BDGL, but I'm sure the genre has changed since then.
@ferbogadoaSalirAJugar
@ferbogadoaSalirAJugar 6 ай бұрын
one hour and 57 second of the best wisdom in designing a boardgame, I apreciate a lot. Living in Paraguay, that´s means a lot to me. Designing my own card game and this lessons are precious.
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful!
@marcosseven8872
@marcosseven8872 6 ай бұрын
Great and insightful 👍 thanks for posting it
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening!
@jessedotson5998
@jessedotson5998 6 ай бұрын
Awesome episode
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Deceptikhan
@Deceptikhan 5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that MTG is highly luck based because no matter how well you plan your lands and mana curve, you still get mana screwed fairly regularly. I wonder if his opinions on luck and skill have evolved since he created that game.
@f.g.5967
@f.g.5967 6 ай бұрын
The answer to the title is easy: with money
@laartwork
@laartwork 6 ай бұрын
I always say there is luck in real life. Just be skilled enough to be prepared for it.
@Oviedo_Games
@Oviedo_Games 6 ай бұрын
Great video! So much helpful insight. Gabe, I'm interested in what you think about looking at dice rolls as a matter of averages? If you have an even/odd mechanic, a player can easily judge what they should expect- without it being a guarantee. Do you think that is a mindset players can get behind? Will rolling way below average sour the experience more than rolling way above will sweeten it?
@BoardGameDesignLab
@BoardGameDesignLab 6 ай бұрын
A game has two experiences: 1. How it plays on paper. This is where the averages tell you certain expected outcomes. 2. How it plays in real life. This is where a string of unlikely die rolls can completely destroy an experience by making the game feel either too hard, too easy, or just un-fun. As a designer, I keep both in mind as I craft an experience and try to mitigate the possibilities of experience 2 as best as I can. My conversation with Geoff Engelstein dives into this topic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNRja814zqvIe5c.htmlsi=-sQEE7fqsmCDyXTH&t=4101
@real3ater
@real3ater 13 күн бұрын
35:25
@darbyl3872
@darbyl3872 2 ай бұрын
Chess has uncertainty, but that can be mistaken as luck. Luck depends on something random, but player decisions do not qualify as random (even if they decide randomly). Let's agree on basic definitions, please.
@ytisgood7327
@ytisgood7327 Ай бұрын
good point. unknowable vs randomness are two different things. luck is more to do with randomness. however, if there are too many unknowables then it probably means that your decisions are going to be pretty much random, and therefore give a sense of more 'luck'.
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