Deb shares her experience with rotary in skiing. A deep dive into rotary movement.
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@profpat704 ай бұрын
As an addicted carver-thanks for showing me another way to ski. And one that I learned, and unlearned years ago. At age 84 I find myself more open to new/old ideas. Thanks Deb
@johnwalker28414 ай бұрын
Over the years, it’s amazing how things have changed. In the middle 1960’s, in order to negotiate a steep line within a narrow corridor. It required an exaggerated up and down motion with hard edge sets( ergo short swing turns) If the run was long, it was exhausting. I’ve learned over the years to be very light on the edges and let the skis do the work. I find (even on very steep hard surfaces) that if I keep my torso square and I rotate my feet to finish the turn, I can manage to maintain a tight corridor with my desired speed control. No exaggerated movements for this old man.
@flytimothypaul4 ай бұрын
It’s an obsessive quest to groove the perfect turn to a level where it’s so natural the mind can be removed altogether. The best journey ever.
@debbielombard51324 ай бұрын
"It never ends", I'm so thankful you share your thoughts and feelings skiing!
@Skier_2024 ай бұрын
Rotary is such an under appreciated and important skill for advanced skiing. Carving is fun and obviously important for racing, but it is so over-emphasized in the internet skiing world. I'm with Deb in my love for this move. It's really helped me take my skiing (and enjoyment of skiing) to another level!
@darrensmith91434 ай бұрын
There is also no good mogul skiing without rotary.
@rafaelalbertotorres80704 ай бұрын
As she masterfully expressed it, "it never ends," which is part of the beauty of skiing.
@danielshults52434 ай бұрын
Deb's tip at 4:10 about getting the outside foot behind your hip just a hair is kind of the reciprocal of another cue that has really helped me recently- which is to point the inside knee where you want to go. It kind of results in the same effect: your upper body falls into the new turn, not only laterally but also FORWARD, resulting in a much easier time accessing the tips of the skis to get the turn started off "on the right foot," so to speak. Always interesting how different cues work for different people when it comes to these complex movements.
@karencarver72964 ай бұрын
Thank you Deb. You should tele! The idea of having the shovel of the downhill til slightly behind we free-healers call “pedal the bicycle backward” it creates ankle flex without having to forward pressure, thus creating more range of motion in the thighs and hips so no “parking and riding” just flow!
@cosma19454 ай бұрын
I've watched many of your videos and they're all great! This one, on the finesse of skiing and expression of your precise body feelings during turns - is extra special. Thanks!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@johnpetersen81164 ай бұрын
The amount of golden nuggets in this video is astounding! Each time you stopped to relate your internal cues or talk about ski or body performance I had to stop the video and think about how I go about doing those same things. If you listen closely, you can also imagine how you might go about teaching this stuff too....just be sure you really understand it!.....this will become a favorite of mine!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Ya, you get it. Thanks!
@aztecterp4 ай бұрын
This is a great video! I truly love how much you love skiing, and your dedication to excellence despite being an elite skier. If only others would share your passion about learning 🙂
@skimangojazz4 ай бұрын
One of your most fun videos ever Deb, love it! You never cease to inspire me. Working so much on my carving these days and this is such a great reminder of how the same fundamentals apply to non-carved turns.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Have fun!
@skimangojazz4 ай бұрын
Also your square hips comments after the hundreds of posts on that ski forum arguing over your last video made me laugh.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
@@skimangojazz what ski forum?? Did I miss something 🤣🤣🤣
@geniejennings83843 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, Deb! I have been instructing for 32 years, now, and am working on developing "dynamic wedge turns." I am finding I am really shortening my inside leg to maintain a wedge: very little, but some, edge on the outside ski. In a wedge configuration, as you do here, I can let my skis move away, just as I work to do in parallel turns. My daughter started coaching this year and was shadowing me with my adult group. I demonstrated it to them and she told me she had never seen me ski so straight down the fall line. This had not been an intention. But, I noticed that my personal skiing had been changed as well! Because the "dwt" required so much leg activity, it transferred over to my parallel skiing without my brain getting involved and in the way. This confirmed my belief that skiing in a wedge shape with good body alignment will lead directly to parallel skiing with no moves learned that have to be unlearned, simply changing pitch and speed.
@Motio34 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this particular “tortured experience” 😂 as you refer to it around 8:45. And I feel exactly the same about that almost meditative flow feeling that skiing can give. Especially when you slow it down a little. Viva slower skiing! Your authentic openness and generosity in giving the world a glimpse of your inner life is lovely. All the technical is beautiful too. As always. But your ability to create a sense of special connection with the audience is one of a kind. 🥰
@Motio34 ай бұрын
And, um, maybe I got a bit carried away, but after reading the comment where you mentioned the ski you were on, I bought it within the half hour. Just in case Fischer might want to know! 😊 Normally I agonize for too long (talk about torture!) with the ski research/demoing/scrounging for already sold out inventory. So thanks for helping me “initiate”(and complete!) a dreaded shopping project! I have wanted a ski in this class for a couple years now, so… here goes. (I do already have a Fischer slalom ski, RC4 SC, which I really enjoy, so I’m not just being totally impulsive. The little I read about the Curv GT seems to indicate it’s a very well respected construction and performance, so we’ll see if I can ski up to its standards ) Sometimes a leap of faith kinda move required in skiing, yes? ❤
@gernotzemanek8534 ай бұрын
Looks like how Franz Klammer skies these days, as noticed on you videos. It's fun to play with different ways to ski.
@gernotzemanek8534 ай бұрын
I also want to add your episode with races of yore it was so much fun to watch them play with you on the snow the Mahar Bros. were a highlight.
@mihai-cristinelatanasoaei21394 ай бұрын
New video from Deb = stop what I am doing and start taking notes . thank you for the great content!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
💪💪💪💪💪💪💪 love it😉
@renb18212 ай бұрын
Just got my PSIA Level 1 and as a former racer rotary skills are what I really want to work on. As someone who has watched your videos it was cool to hear you say you went through this process as well and I am really excited to start playing with different turn shapes and developing rotary skills. Thanks Deb!!
@alant7793 ай бұрын
Hi Deb, thanks for showing me the world of skiing. I love hearing about your first hand experiences of what you're doing. Those are always what have helped me the most in your videos. This time, I stumbled onto the pulling-the-foot-back thing on my own just trying to bring my downhill hip forward while carving. But once I did it, I felt so stable and effortless, that I decided to try out your exercises again. What you described in the old rotary movement clicked, and it finally felt like I was leading the ski rather than being led by it. Surprisingly, it helped with making smooth transitions during the falling leaf exercise too. Super satisfying. I'll have to work on my inside ski next. Leading with the inside hip, driving the knee... I can't wait to experience what you mean by being stacked.
@nathantoney.15014 ай бұрын
I will never stop trying to improve.
@zhenrad4 ай бұрын
Funny, this is exactly what I was working on all day today! I sure would like to get a lesson from you someday
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Love it
@austinado162 ай бұрын
Along with everything else offered in this video, it's a fantastic window into the mind of a high level, competitive athlete. Magnified a thousand times, because Ms. Armstrong is an Olympic Gold Medalist. The mind just remains "on fire" with all the nuances that connect the body to the skill, and it's a lifetime of, "How can I refine this?" I love every bit of this, and I've been using these training vids to help both my, and my daughter's skiing. We're both former competitive runners, so we share the mindset... always looking to "dial it in." I'm 60 and she's 24.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong2 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 awesome
@lg568310 күн бұрын
I loved it when you spoke of putting it all together and it your Zen I really don’t know what Zen is but I understand you and that’s amazing for me to be on that level.
@jamesgarcia91232 ай бұрын
her stance', and going in and out of turns is the pro way! love it thanks deb! peace
@charlieli4 ай бұрын
Deb, I love your love on the ski!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@LarsEriksson-vp5eb4 ай бұрын
Your energy and enthusiasm is so inspiring. Looking forward to what will come next!
@Chicken_nuggets133 ай бұрын
Deb! This video is the culmination of what you bring to skiing - thank you. You love skiing. You break down and isolate the pieces. Then you put the puzzle back together in dynamic fashion. Very few people "narrate" the turn like you do. Thanks from Vermont, Todd
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong3 ай бұрын
Thanks Todd
@AleksanderPena4 ай бұрын
Thanks Deb for sharing all of this. I'll try to implement some of them in few weeks. Full of hope to start carving finally 😊
@dianeboross69782 ай бұрын
I love doing this, in fact, on the flat running up to the first fall line is a great way to get in touch with this technique. I am trying to get to a point where it's my default and don't have to think about it anymore.
@shoes123uk84 ай бұрын
Super content Deb, Thank you for sharing 🙏 ❤
@andylambert30462 ай бұрын
Love the enthusiasm -- it inspires me! Very helpful insights here.
@szuber424 ай бұрын
I had a great instructor once tell me on the chair if alone move both skis with ankles at the same time with toes up and pressure on the shin then try it on the snow and wow.
@arnaldosimisschver5234 ай бұрын
another great video, thanks from Brazil Deb
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
You are so welcome
@sebastianmichalski53184 ай бұрын
So much positive energy ❤
@josephgdraper4 ай бұрын
Thanks Deb for adding more to the conversation on squaring the hips! In your most recent videos you mentioned how you have been experimenting with squaring your hips. The realtime trial and error exploration in this video is awesome! Heuristics (trial and error experimentation) is a valuable part of the scientific method. I’m a retired engineer and the ski school I teach with has several full time engineers who teach skiing part time.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Awesome!!!
@Studio42Brooklyn3 ай бұрын
I just love this video. Exactly how I feel when I ski.
@kevinwu6934 ай бұрын
The way I understand hip direction is that it should be squared to the direction of travel, which at moments matches the direction of the ski tips. But rotary of legs changes the direction of the ski tips faster than the change of direction of travel in a skidded short turn, and that makes many people confused about trying to countering their hip against their ski and direction of travel
@death2pc4 ай бұрын
Your "Falling Leaf" discipline is exceptional and has application here, too..........
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Yes😉 it does have application here correct. Thanks
@realityczar57394 ай бұрын
You inspire me! God bless
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I’m glad
@bachibouzouk284 ай бұрын
Du Québec, j’adore vos conseils, you are a great motivator🤩
@funkentratzer97444 ай бұрын
Awesome tips! I love hearing you describe various sensations as you ski - it gives me a target. Does the difference between pivoting and stroking in a turn come down to hip socket rotation in a pivot versus knee rotation in stroking? That difference is likely above my current ability level, but I hadn’t thought of it before you pointed it out. Cheers!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
A pivot as I understand it is a direction change on a dime, stroking to use my favorite term is shaping over some time and distance
@nosliwm4 ай бұрын
You're on a square hips tear recently! :) I'm working on it myself now.... thanks!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
I know! I am. Ha!!! And even more to come. It’s fun diving into it. I have actually been thinking about it and skiing it for years now, only now going public with it and getting into teaching it
@user-dt4tx9sw7o4 ай бұрын
Deb..you should telemark you would be awesome at it thanks for all the cool tips they have helped my progression in the tele turn, your awesome!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Ya, I really appreciate tele. Glad you like the vids
@christophersharp18284 ай бұрын
Deb I’ll be in Taos late February. Will you still be there? Your videos are so good!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Possibly😉 glad you appreciate the videos
@joshcourt67444 ай бұрын
Gosh those turns look good! Had a lightbulb moment about a week ago, where I realized my foot to foot pressure was feeling more like a toggle switch and less like a dimmer. Bringing it back to a smooth transition felt so good! After that I realized I could focus on all the parameters (edge angle, steering, fore/aft) and they could all be more smooth and intentional. Finesse is key for sure!
@user-fx7qp3ng1m4 ай бұрын
Considering the smaller edge angle, are these turns good as a drill to do on the slopes in order to practice for off-piste skiing?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
You bet
@Skedawg884 ай бұрын
Thanks! I always look forward to a new video from you Deb, and this is a good one! But then they all are. Question; have you heard the word scarving? Yes, I know it’s not a real ski term.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Not sure I have. Thanks for supporting the channel!!
@Skedawg884 ай бұрын
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong It means steering blended with carving. PSIA Centerline had carving on one side of centerline and rotary on the other. The two can come together. Not sure where I first heard the term. Not trying to be a know it all, just asking. ( Steering plus carving. ) You’re welcome.
@margaretreid65703 ай бұрын
Great video once more 😍
@rebenasrekoms4 ай бұрын
It looks like you’re floating on top of run - amazing
@drl10464 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Thank you for supporting the channel
@micklogg53774 ай бұрын
Love vids
@Richard_HUN4 ай бұрын
In these kinds of rotary turns, does the back of the ski slip, or is it carving the whole way through? Sounds insanely difficult with carv only
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
The tail is displaced slightly from where the tip of the ski passed through the turn
@jspark63512 ай бұрын
감사합니다.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@JeffreySimon05063 ай бұрын
Turning from the hips, while keeping them squared? As opposed to tipping from the ankles?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong3 ай бұрын
I don’t know what to say. I can not teach by text. Watch the video a few more times. I think it speaks for itself. Also watch a few more of my hips videos😉
@tilbie644 ай бұрын
May I please ask what you feel/think of these skis vs yellow SC PRO pair? Thanks, Deb.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
For teaching and bumps these skis are very versatile for me. The others I love carving on the groomers, my power ski😉
@tilbie644 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. That is pretty much what I guessed. I am on a pair of Atomic slalom skis pretty much every day. I am very interested in the yellow pair. We are waiting for some new snow here in Aspen. Have a great day, Deb! @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
@robinmay84504 ай бұрын
Love "cycling" through focuses.....keep those learning loops closed.....input to output and back again...
@brianferris14 ай бұрын
What does Deb do when there is no snow on the mountains?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Ha!! I hike and bike and love it😉 thanks for the comment
@sabinebillon9774 ай бұрын
J’adore too👌
@tamcaj4 ай бұрын
Ce qu’elle est inspirante !
@arnaldosimisschver5234 ай бұрын
Valeu!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Big thank you🙏🙏🙏 greatly appreciated
@puregsr4 ай бұрын
What is the radius on those skis?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
15 M. This ski is the CURV GT in a 168. 123-76-107
@kevinwu6934 ай бұрын
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong What is your take on a similar ski that is roughly 10cm longer than this one, which is about the same height of the skier (me). I had a little trouble getting in to a longer ski initially because I used to ski only 165
@puregsr4 ай бұрын
@@kevinwu693if you're doing true parallel skiing, I don't think length matters much. Deb is used to skiing skis taller than she is since she skis fast and needs the stability. My take is when you need longer skis, you'll just know it.
@scarface5484 ай бұрын
You inspire me everyday to live a life of passion.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Ah thank you! Appreciate you supporting the channel
@artfunamori44424 ай бұрын
I think about all kinds of things while I’m skiing… you’re only making it worse! 😂 The Cooper Puckett hip thing is gonna haunt me all season!
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
I love it!!!
@puregsr4 ай бұрын
So even while doing such short turns, you're still trying to keep your hips squared, turning side to side?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
In these short turns I was focusing on my square hips
@puregsr4 ай бұрын
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong I guess squared hips doesn't mean your chest must also face the direction of travel at all times, like at the end of the turn, right?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
@@puregsr hips and chest are different areas of the body that can operate seperately
@flamingvipir4 ай бұрын
Lots of comments about the technical side of this video, but what really spoke to me was the absolute focus, even wonder, when you bring attention to the individual muscle and joint sensations while linking your body (internal) to your skis, to the snow (external). As someone who has done martial arts and is now getting into skiing, I think the reason both sports speak to me personally is not because of the external challenges - in skiing, the terrain, snow conditions, obstacles; in martial arts, the mat, the pads, the people trying to kick you 😂 - but rather the real challenge, which is mastery of your own body. Always excited to find parallels in new activities to balance introspection with extrospection (if that's even a word lol)
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
I love this comment. So cool💪💪👍👍
@gogglebro94214 ай бұрын
Deb, watching you ski, it looks to me like the stroking motion comes from rotating your hips. Is that what it feels like to you? //Marshall
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
I get lots of stroking from my hips as my hips remain square to my direction of travel, my hips keep up with my skis. I also stroke the skis through the turn through ankle and lower leg work
@gogglebro94214 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarification! I have a follow up question. Are you trying to ski with anticipation too while keeping the hip square (traveling in the direction of your skis)?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
@@gogglebro9421 ya, sure. The upper torso is independent of the hips for leveling, counter, anticipation with vision
@gogglebro94214 ай бұрын
FYI - I’ve followed Chase Seymour’s advice (from one of your past videos) about flexing the “outside” ankle at turn initiation or maybe better to say flexing the ankle at the top of the turn. I mention this because I found that this movement put my outside foot, where it belongs, behind my hip. For me, Chase’s tip was the missing piece to making more dynamic parallel turns.
@albertmaziarz67393 ай бұрын
her 10 years back not today
@chiubacca824 ай бұрын
It's hard on cordoray, maybe easier on 1" fluff.
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong4 ай бұрын
Ha, I’ll take 12” fluff 😉
@trouts44443 ай бұрын
I'm completely lost on this one. Phrases, words, movements in a jumble. ??? It seems like she is saying skis flat with slight edge and somehow rotate the skis, maybe with the thigh? Pinkie toe edging uphill ski when and where exactly in prep for becoming the now outside ski. ?? ? ? I love Debs video but this one after 4 looks is not clicking for me. ?
@DebArmstrongSkiStrong3 ай бұрын
The rotary skill, making a turn shape smaller than what is built into the ski design takes shaping the turn from the skill of some form of rotary action. I have other videos on rotary as well
@trouts44443 ай бұрын
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Thank you Deb I'll search for them. Ski language is a big problem for many and certainly me. I have never understood rotary after many years and oodles of video from better people making KZfaq videos. I assume you boy is well off pizza and french fries and carving gates. 🙂
@mrredithhall71154 ай бұрын
👏 thanks for sharing FUN-ATHLETIC Rotary Based 🎿👏 👏 👏