Couple of corrections that have been pointed out by you helpful people in the comments: 1- Hand Arts all have the brave effect except Initiate and Shield Art, that's my bad, the description is inconsistent across them all so just a heads up! 2- The price required to upgrade from the first tier to the final tier is NOT added with each step, what you see on the final step is the TOTAL. Sorry for the confusion!

I'm kinda glad they kept it like SoV where you can branch and forge into a specific weapon

Note, silver sword only needs 20 silver ore, the amount is total, not cumulative

Weapons are not as expensive to max as you think. The weapon material costs are not displayed in increments. The cost of a +5 already includes the material costs of previous levels. If you go +1 the cost of all other levels will reduce accordingly.

As a general PSA, I would never forge Mini Bows into Iron Bows because Mini Bows allow for melee range. Instead forging them to +5 and stopping seems good. Likewise, keeping a forged Longbow around is a great idea.

I'd say this was an engaging guide

wow thanks for this guide. I'm gonna share it with my friends.

Having a fist unit with a shielding and a flash art is actually fun because there is such a difference between both interchangeably. Makes the unit feel extremely versatile

The dogs fur determines the type of ingot found. From the first areas of the game the normal dog always finds iron, the white dog always finds steel and the black dogs always find silver. And this is after every battle for the most part, including paralogues and skirmishes. Take advantage.

I haven't delved much into forging yet but I'm so grateful for this video!

Something to note about the martial arts weapons is that their damage is based on half of strength and magic combined. Usually, weapons are either strength only or magic only. Magic weapons like Levin Sword are magic only. So, if you think emblem/bond rings that give both strength and magic are kind of lacking, you can put them on a martial arts user to leverage both stats. Any might bonuses help since most of the martial arts weapons are brave effects. Gets crazy when you hit people 4-8x in a row.

Thanks for the content. There are so many upgrade/temp buff systems in the game. Watching guides like this while I’m out/driving really helps me enjoy the game when I sit down to play instead of racking my brain/googling stuff to make sure I don’t waste resources.

Getting a high luck Anna will help immensely in funding the forge

Yeah it clicked for me around chapter 12, I noticed the dogs drop ingots out of all the animals and immediately replace all the animals with dogs and they have been dropping them consistently ever since

Thank you for the spoiler free guide! I appreciate it!

This helped a lot as some of the weapons I wasn't too sure what they would be or how much better they would be compared to my + weapons

I personally find Iron Daggers +5 a very solid investment too, it's basically better than silver with less weight and less expensive and you can even get it very early on to carry you through the mid game

This was a great guide. Ive been upgrading my weapons but never knew you can create different weapons time to make some killer weapons

thanks for not spoiling anything and providing a good guide

Thanks for the guide!

This video is absolutely helpful❤

I also had already been using a lot of dogs for my forging and had looked at most of the weapon branches then thanks to this video. I just watched this to see any I may have missed or haven't yet seen. Also you should definitely do a tutorial on the bond rings or potentially show off the extra skills on some of them. Like there is one that can make Thunder tomes attack twice.

thanks for the guide, it put into perspective whether i should be holding out my silver ore for later game weapons or if liberation and FEH weapons are worth upgrading.

You can also do skirmishes as they appear and the dogs will produce resources after each one... pretty cool

I know this was probably tedious for you, but thank you for explaining all this

Dogs are a forge best friend.

I am in late game for maddening. Fist weapons are clutch against range. They will break any ranged dagger, tome, and bows, which can really come in handy.

Thanks for helping with the game mechanics. My first playthrough on hard classic, but I didn't use or understand any of: weapon forging, good units and suitable units for them, optimal emblem pairings, inheritance and kept swapping people in and out so everyone was underleveled. Playing on maddening now and finding the game far easier Actually using all this stuff lol. I don't know how I managed to play the game without canter...

Shielding Art is great for staff users who have crap STR. +5 DEF makes a unit quite a bit tankier vs melee units, especially if they aren't going to do a lot of damage anyway.

It's a little sad that some the more out there and unique refines and upgrades from SoV like the Rhomphia, Saurion, or Ilwoon didn't made it in. Most of the weapon lines are pretty uninteresting mostly consisting of Iron, Steel, Silver, Brave with magic and killing branches. Daggers, Tomes, and fists got the worst of it in terms of creative forging.

You'll have to pry my cat farm from my cold dead hands

I'm a few days late, but I did want to point out that it's completely possible to use forging in order to get a Bolganone and Thoron tome before chapter 9. They only cost a total of 200 Iron 20 Steel and 1 Silver each (plus 4k gold). It is absolutely worth it, because you can auto promote Citrinne after chapter 7 and she can use both at that point. This is easily the best thing to focus on in Maddening first since it's just so useful.

@ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="260">4:20</a> - yes Lances have a smash weapons. They're called Great Lances

I hope somebody finds this helpful. The video stated it takes 38 Silver to get a Silver Sword from base to +5 by totaling up 1+2+5+10+20 for each step. This is not correct. 20 is the number of silver it takes to go directly from a Silver Sword to a Silver Sword +5. Same with the other materials and gold. Think of it this way: A Silver Sword +5 is a Silver Sword that contains 20 pieces of Silver. A Silver Sword +3 is a Silver Sword that contains 5 Pieces of Silver. So to make a Silver Sword +3 into a Silver Sword +5 requires adding 15 more pieces of silver, since it already has 5. The game uses this interface pretty consistently throughout the game. You can see this in the arena raising bond levels, or using SP to purchase Emblem skills. Speed+1 I think costs 100SP. Speed +2 costs 200SP. But if you have speed +1 already, it will only cost an additional 100SP to get speed +2.

To be fair to the daggers, they do seem to get the most forge benefits from actually dumping resources into them. My Yunaka has an iron Dagger+5 for average schmucks, and a silver one (also +5) for bosses, though i could easily get away with just the iron one.

Huh… for some reason I never scrolled down to realize you can scroll down to forge your weapon into a completely different one lol. I like that, pretty similar to echoes though the gold and iron aren’t as tough to come by. So you can make some pretty cool weapons like levin swords pretty early Thanks for the guide!

I like the shielding art for seadall so that he just gets a teensy bit more durability in case i have to end turn with him in enemy range

Nice video. Would you be willing to make a video for best weapons to engrave ? And how said engravements might work best for certain classes. This game is a bit to interface heavy for my liking.

Some of the other fist weapons in your inventory have that brave description as well

Just realized yesterday Alear has martial arts gonna use that when able to

shield fists turned my Framme from a healer into a heavy armor in the relay trials. she literally was the only reason i finished a three map trial with my sanity in tact. my heavy ended up getting one shot by mage i didn't account for properly so framme had to take up the job and it was much more effective than i imagined since her defense stats aren't too bad anyways. add that i gave her tiki for emblem bracelet and i had a tank that blasted up to 4 enemies at a time.

Dude I turned lapis into a thief because her front line from the getgo is so weak. Turns out she's super strong as thief, probably even better than Yunaka

This was very helpful thank you! How do you get Anna's weapon?

I ended up just guessing correctly for all the weapons by just looking at the stats lol

Oh snap! I'm still in the early game so I haven't played around much with forging.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="357">5:57</a> I love that he basically said "Source: Trust me, bro"

Silver-hand Arts DOES have the initiate combat twice perk like the flashing-hand just so people don't think they have to rush straight into it!

Gold has been a real hassle to obtain in this game. How are you going about farming it? The corrupted gold I feel doesn't give that much and the other one is through training skirmishes along with high luck Anna.

It's extremely helpful since my game just came in the male today. I have to wait about 30 or so minutes cause got to wait till it comes home. I got a question what does Smash do? I know what break does but what about smash.

Wow I've never heard someone pronounce Iron like "eye-ron" before 😂Not everything is meant to be pronounced exactly how it's spelled. But overall great guide, thanks! Definitely took some notes.

Is there any point upgrading a sword (for example) to +1/+2/+3 etc, if you plan to upgrade it to a new weapon? I'm guessing it won't keep any plus modifiers? Will it make the transformation cost any less? If not I guess you'd be better off transforming a new un-upgraded weapon?

This was very helpful, I hate when even after you have the weapon it's still ???

Really appreciate the video. Have to say though, "I-yun" sword not "I-Ron" sword

You'd be surprised how effective just +2 iron will be. I'm still using iron and low tier weapons with few refines and engravings. They are wrecking silver weaponed enemies after chapter 12

Possible spoiler- Surge does have a third version but I’m not sure if it can be forged. The tome is Nova but they changed how it works, but you can tell based of the appearance that it’s supposed to be the Surge tome.

Silver sword +5 requires exactly what it says its not cumulative its actually subtractive. If you.get a lower rank you pay less for the higher ranks

Spend your gold to max out investment to lv5 for each region, because it will spawn gold corrupted enemies which gives you more gold in return, as well as MULTIPLY Resource gains several times over, like Bond Fragments which is vital for upgrading and reducing the grind in some sense if you want to make S ranked Bond Rings.

Choops bullied me into watching this.

I have one question that I don’t think was covered. If I upgrade a weapon to +1 or higher, does it transfer to the next tier if I later upgrade?

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="263">4:23</a> how do you get that weapon? Im fine with spoilers, as I've beaten the game, but ive never seen that weapon

To be honest they should also make some killer version of the daggers and fists maybe called: Killer Dagger and Killer Art

Poison doesn’t do damage to foes… it increases the damage they receive.

Didn't play three houses so what is smash? I see that the great weapons have it built in but they can't make follow ups nor attack first even when you initiate. Seems kinda only good on heavily armored units. Also how does that work with vantage?

I’m surprised that they don’t have Bolt Axe or magic fists. We just had them in FE3H, so I’m sad that they don’t have it here. They’re probably saving it for DLC or a free update.

Question, I made a +4 Iron Lance. If I were to instead want a steel lance, should I just turn a standard one into steel and keep the +4? Because the +4 is doing a lot of work

is there any point upgrading from 1 tier to the next if both are available in the shop?

Dogs will produce ingots also if you go thru a map on the tower

Where are the long range tomes? I keep on reading that Meteor is available, but whenever I talk to people they say it isn’t available for blue units. Is Meteor or Bolting available?

Do items stack at adoption or do I need to get them after each chapter?

what would happen if you change steel sword +5 into silver sword ? is it possible ? will it be silver sword +0 ?

Not entirely related, but anyone else feel like smash weapons were intended for defending and not attacking? I've tried using them and I feel like using them to attack is far too risky with the speed cap being 40s to 50s that its honestly not worth it when enemies are set to always attack first when you're using smash weapons. The only possible exception I can think of where smash could be used offensively is if tempest trial augments on rival weapons works to boost evasion and even then I'm not 100% that's worth it.

Is this game good to play ?

Silver weapons are good but should go to brave weapons or just stick to lvl 3 Silver weapons?

I would it like to have a recomendation of what weapon to forge early to mid game

What character and class would be best to use the brave bow?

When looking at this, it’s sad seeing a lot of the S-Tier weapons being mostly unattainable

could you make a guide on how to gain money quickly?

You do not total all of the costs to upgrade. as you upgrade all future upgrades get cheaper - The same mechanic applies to inherent skills and SP costs. Basically you can go ahead and upgrade early

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="290">4:50</a> I believe you might be off. Take a look at your Silver. You’ve only 14 but it says you can +4 the weapon. I don’t think the costs are additive but are actually cumulative.

What is the differences between Avo & Ddg ?

It's time to turn this place into a dog shelter!

So what weapons should I upgrade?

How the hell do you get Anna axe and alfred sword?

It’s dumb how it doesn’t explain that you don’t always get gold from a battle and the donations are pretty much your main source of income and I’m upset I didn’t realize until late game

You havent seen any ice magic? Where is my dark magic? I desire the heavy power of Flux and it's brotherhood.

You can save yourself some time on the video editing by just unequipping things. You don't see the Sprites on the lists if they aren't attached to anyone

Man other than Anna who'd use the hurricane axe. All the prevalent axe users have physical elelements to their build

for your next guide, do a money making guide: max out Anna's luck and have her solo maps for max profits $$$$

You do realize you could've saved before spending the resources then reloaded after showing them.

Adopted animals drop mats after every battle

Which mage class can also wield bows?

I thought this would also talk about engraving

Kind of crazy that you can't forge a Hand Axe. So... yeah. Nuts.

Why would a silver sword need 38 silver to max? The material cost per level aren't additive. Normal silver sword to silver sword +5, only requires 20 silver

Funny that Brave sword is enough to make a fe fan click

How do you called your video is guide.. when you censored it everything what we need you to guide us?

Anyone upset there’s no darkness? Flux Fenrir ):

I thought elsurge goes to nova

Yeah, forging felt much easier than FE:TH

Excuse me what Why is Fólkvangr in this game