WE MADE IT TO 500 SUBS! Thank every single one of you so much. Even if you haven't subscribed, your views, comments, and likes have fueled my willingness to keep going on this wild ride, and I"m so happy to reach this milestone.

This is insane to me that people are discussing fates in such depth still. Awesome

This is great, these graphis are really useful at a glance man. You and Zoran are a great duo as always.

Yes Songstress is a must to any route. You really want to Azura spend some time Troubadour classes and maybe Kinshi Knight. Those classes grant Azura quite good skills that she can support allies without doing anything. Demoiselle (Troubadour) (Male allies within a 2 tile radius receive 2 less damage during battles) Free - 2 Damage to Males and yes can stack with Damage reduction skills or other Demoiselle and Gentilhomme. Inspiration (Strategist) (Allies within a 2 tile radius deal 2 extra damage and receive 2 less damage during battles) Allies take -2 Damage and do extra 2 damage (You can have your allies take less -4 Damage and your allies can do +2 damage) Amaterasu (Kinshi Knight) (Allies within a 2-tile radius recover 20% HP at the start of the user’s Turn) (This stacks with Azura's Personal Skill Healing Descant which means 2-Tile radius recover 30% ) (You can have your allies take less -4 Damage and your allies can do +2 damage and radius recover 30% HP at the start of the user’s Turn without doing anything.) Voice of Peace (Songstress) (Enemies within a 2 tile radius deal 2 less physical damage) (You can have your allies take less -6 Damage and your allies can do +2 damage and radius recover 30% HP at the start of the user’s Turn without doing anything.) Foreign Princess (Songstress) (“Foreign Army” units within 2 spaces deal -2 damage and receive +2 damage.) (You can have your allies take less -8 Damage and your allies can do +4 damage and radius recover 30% HP at the start of the user’s Turn without doing anything.) (And this is just without any support from other characters) With Camilla's personal skill Rose's Thorns (Adjacent allies deal 3 extra damage and receive 1 less damage), (You can have your allies take less -9 Damage and your allies can do +7 damage and radius recover 30% HP at the start of the user’s Turn without doing anything.) With Ellise's personal skill Lily's Poise (Adjacent allies deal 3 extra damage and receive 1 less damage), (You can have your allies take less -11 Damage and your allies can do +5 damage and radius recover 30% HP at the start of the user’s Turn without doing anything.) If we add skills to Ellise like Demoiselle (Troubadour) and Inspiration (Strategist) classes she has and does well. (You can have your allies take less -15 Damage and your allies can do +7 damage and radius recover 30% HP at the start of the user’s Turn without doing anything.)

I always loved Nohr Noble but I never realized how good it really was. I just like tomes and it let me keep the Yato. My first time around my heart seal class was Mage so I had access to Dark Knight when I had gotten most of the skills for better mobility and not much downside. The power to activate ally's skills and lower enemy stats by 4 hits really hard. It's quite the power house option.

I always like when Zoran talks about Conquest, cause he really know how to go througt it, he is a literally god

The best part of this video is showing how Nohrians are just Built DifferentlyTM -Dark Mages having some of the best early skills in the game and access to a game changer weapon in Nosferatu vs Diviners having really shitty base stats and having their biggest value being Rally support and pair up bots -Wolfskins retaining their usefulness on their base class as bulky fighters/pair up bots, making them easy to use vs Kitsunes needing a good partner/friendship class option to get out of the class ASAP and building weapon rank in the Weapon Rank Hell that is Birthright -Bows having much better stats than Yumis -Elise, Leo and Camilla all being significantly more impactful on gameplay than Sakura, Takumi and Hinoka on Conquest/Birthright (don’t have the experience to back this up when it comes to Revelation) -Blacksmith having virtually no reason to be considered in a more serious run vs Wyvern Lord being one of the best classes in this game and having a good chunk of units that want to pursue said class over their magical counterpart -Hero!Xander being so game changing that he gets a whole ass segment in Hero even if he can only get that class via friendship/marriage -Virgin Lances in Falcon Knight vs Chad Lances in Wyvern Lord All jokes aside, excellent video! The dynamic between the two of you flows really well and makes the 50 minutes go by really fast. Really hope we get to see more of you two :)

In my opinion adventurer vs bow knight is really down to what you want to do with niles, I like going adventurer like 12 or 13 and building staff rank and generally being easier to level up mid game becase if you use felicia 2 as a pair up on him or like nyx hes still orkoing with shining bow (I generally use felicia 2) and then once they are married I get pass get out and go to strategist for like a 9 move pass staffer

One point towards General in BR is that there aren’t any Armor effective enemies in Birthright.

I don't think Hoshido Noble is completely useless, as Rescue is an E rank staff. With Dragon Ward, it allows for more aggressive play with frailer units. It's not game breaking or anything, but it is a nice option to have.

30:16 This aged... It aged.

this is such a cool video to come out in 2022. i thought no one would care about this game anymore but it still gets support. awesome graphics too btw

Correction moment (26:05) Defense +2: Grants Defense + 2 Natural Cover: This unit takes -3 damage when fighting in a space with a terrain effect.

Love that you guys still make content for this game, I love watching these videos. Very informative, you guys have great analysis discussions.

Thanks so much for all the effort you put into this!

This is a fantastic video! I'm actually here because I needed to see what the sprites look like when animated, but the video was so much more funny and well-done than I expected! :D

Your Fates content is really great and definitely something I wish I had back in 2015 lol. Love the videos with you and Zoran

Thanks! Will definitely be useful when I spontaneously start my next fates playthrough

Ooh yay. More Fates deep dives. I'd suggest normalizing peaks to -24 to -28 dB in the future. Music is comparatively a little loud.

This is such a great video! Thanks for taking the time to discuss the pros/cons of each class, and how they're situationally useful on specific characters. I'd love to see this on Awakening as well!

I suck at fates but this video got me excited to try conquest once again. You have my sub, keep it up!

I returned to Fire Emblem Fates recently and started Conquest and this is very helpful. Thanks!

Wow, these graphic cards are really nice. Really helps me appreciate the sprites in Fates up-close.

Great video you guys are a fun and informative duo

When I used to play the shit out of Fates when I was younger, I used to experiment with Heart/Marriage Seals to make stuff like Mechanist Takumi and Nohr Noble Ophelia

as a relative newcomer to fates discussion i must say that this is a very interesting vid. whats funny to me is that in most fe games the generalist mounted class tends to be better in games where enemies are easier like fe8 and lower difficulty awakening but fates is surprisingly kind to the more specialist classes even in birthright because of how badly you want wep ranks.will definitely consider these insights on my next fates run

The madman actually did it Thank you, this will be real helpful in the Lunatic Ironman I'm starting soon

Butler aesthetic is superior to maid aesthetic

I did maid Elise once. could not tell you why I thought it was a good idea, but I did it.

This wqs actually a really good video, and I'd like to see more of this type of stuff

If you wanna build hard into crit, getting Friendship between Charlotte and Hinoka in Revelation can give Berserker access to Deathblow through Oni Chieftain. Throw in a great club and you're looking at ~90% crit rates.

its 2022 and yet you guys made a great video on fire emblem fates! im definitely subbing

I hope you do a video like this for Awakening too, this is great!

Best Fates duo returns!

Fire Emblem findings and data about the games are so hard to find (reference Echoes: SoV LTC if u need convincing) so always glad to see public info :)

This was a really great video! I'm more of a casual player but loves classic mode. I personally just uhhh, ransack peoples castles and buy a bunch of skill so I don't have to bother with reclassing, heart sealing and all of that and just make all of my units good as soon as I get them (currently doing a Hard/Classic Revelations run). This was still a very informative and entertaining video, really awesome!

qualitative content thanks

I saw someone on serenes forest recently argue that malig knight is subpar at best and it made me die inside.

God I love fire emblem fates, awesome video!!!!

Two cool FE content creators collaborating for Fates’ breakdowns? Great way to wind down after work

My other favorite games are Crusader Kings. I just love torturing myself with swords & math.

Man… I miss this game. It had the best characters. Good times, good times.

I’m an Apothecary Azama stan in BR; his class change on joining becomes 26 HP, 15 Strength, 4 Magic, 8 Skill, 9 Speed, 10 Luck, 14 Defense and 5 Resistance. On average, Setsuna will have better Skill and Speed but Azama will have better HP, Strength, Luck and Defense; and Takumi’s bases and growths are a step above Setsuna’s but less significant than Azama’s. Most Yumis might be bad but forged Brass and Iron can carry before it’s even a problem (if Takumi joined with anything other than his Fujin Yumi, he’d be another terrible Archer). Friendship with Subaki gives Sky Knight and marrying Setsuna gives him Archer. Both have access to Kinshi Knight, so what I like to do is get Azama to level 20 through Apothecary, promote, then change to Kinshi Knight to get the Sky Knight and Archer skills and Kinshi Knight’s Air Supiority all within the first 5 levels of being in the class. You bring up being locked to 2 range is bad, but I can think of a few chapters where having 2 range is really helpful and pair up is probably more broken in this game than Awakening’s because you can guarantee strong Dual Strikes, so it’s not exactly hard for Azama to provide strong chip damage or route stragglers.

Would love to see a vid where you talk about the best class options for each unit :)

awesome stuff

Thanks a lot, it is really troublesome for me to know who i should class into what/advance. Thank you :}

Ayyyyy Lagspike collab w/ Zoran again!

50 minute ASMR, huge win

Just started my lunatic no royals run of conquest, TY!

Starting my conquest lunatic classic run today so imma watch this to refresh my mind on these haha

as someone who avoided fates until recently this helps me understand it a bit better

Thnx, I was wondering that the Kinshi knight was. Now I remember I promoted her to that because she’s my fav

I find that Effie makes a great flood gate. I shove her in a one tile pathway and shove Elise up right behind her and heal tank so I usually go general on her.

Alright, before watching this I wanted to try my hand at evaluating the classes/promotions in Fates and we'll see how I do. Just a brief summary for each along with a generic rating. Starting out with... Nohr Prince/Princess: Low tier. A very niche class since only Corrin and his offspring can utilize it. It has some decent skills and the promotions can be fun to build around, but the best Corrins will pursue different class lines. Nohr Noble is usually the superior choice since it has draconic hex, but it's heavily dependent on how Corrin is built. Cavalier: Top tier. Nothing too surprising here. Shelter, Elbow room, and Defender are all really good skills, high movement gives them a lot of flexibility, and good stats all around. Paladin over great knight in most scenarios, though Great Knight isn't without its perks. Mercenary: Mid-high tier. This one is a bit tricky for me. Certainly not the best classes around, but good enough utility to be sought after by very specific units. The hero class specifically isn't great for most units, but on Corrin, Xander, or any unit with a lot of investment it's a very effective late game class thanks to its balanced stats and no bonus damage weaknesses. Not to mention axe breaker. For less stellar units, bow knight is normally the better option since they can get in easy chip damage with a forged bronze/brass bow and will have higher movement. Dark Mage: High tier. Might be a bit of a stretch, but heart seeker alone can be a life saver and dark knight is arguably the best magic class overall (not including DLC). Sorcerer isn't a slouch either, both bow breaker and life taker are very helpful abilities. Wyvern rider: Top tier. Possibly the best class line. Malig Knight has great skills along with serving a niche for magic based units and Wyvern Lord has rally defense, Sword Breaker, and overall superior stats. Bows obviously limit them in certain instances, but their ability to fly is still quite dominant. Outlaw: Mid tier. Bow knights with +1 movement? Yes please. Adventurer is pretty good too, but outside of shining bow utility it isn't super impressive. Fighter: High tier. I already mentioned the hero class, but getting access to the +5 Hp skill alone is pretty great and gamble works a lot better on Heroes then berserkers. Berserkers themselves may even be better. Lots of powerful capture options, rally strength and pair up options for good support utility, and really good strength and speed for dishing out damage so long as you can work around their lower accuracy. Heck, with their high HP they can even be decent damage sponges when setup properly. Troubadour: High tier. High movement and good supporting abilities. Maid/Butler has a few niches and good availability, but Strategists are better overall. Knight: Low tier. Unless your name is benny, go for great knight over general as it's a pretty solid class with some good skills. But regardless, knights just aren't that great of a class overall and you almost never want to change someone into a knight or general. I would've put it a bit higher for great knight, but cavaliers can turn into those too and give better skills. Wolfskin: Mid tier. Keaton and Velouria are pretty decent combat units, but have little flexibility thanks to their limited weapon options. Certainly better off then their counterparts though. Kitsune: Low tier. Outside of having really good speed pair up bonuses, this class isn't very good. Kaden and Selkie are frailer and weaker than wolfskin and their niche of high resistance is made almost completely irrelevant due to better class options. Also worth noting that they're stuck with the regular beaststone for most of the game (especially in Rev), which is their worst weapon choice by far. Villager: Lowest Tier. Does anyone level this class up to level ten for promotion? If you're going to go out of your way to use Mozu, just reclass her to archer. Apothecary: Low tier. Mostly this low due to availability. If it was locked to less units, I'd put it in mid. Potent potion is actually a very nice skill and the merchant's ability to create gold bars can come in handy, though I'd recommend the mechanist for most units thanks to its better weapon choices and replicate. Ninja: Top tier. A class so good that they're still helpful when the unit has bad stats. Poison strike combined with hidden weapon debuffs make this class perfect for weakening enemies and their natural 1-2 range also makes them great for attack stancing off of stronger units to get the kill. Stronger Ninjas can go the extra mile of being good enemy phase combatants as well. Master Ninja is generally the preferred choice, but honestly you can make Mechanist work just as well if not better so long as you can make up for their lower speed. Replicate is also a great ability for any unit who you can afford to give it to. Oni Savage: Low-mid tier. A surprisingly rare and mediocre class line. The issues are less to do with the class itself and more so that it's limited to Rinkah, Hayato, and Hinata (Also Fuga). The first two need a lot of investment to get anywhere and Hinata is just meh. Blacksmith may take the prize of most unused promoted class in the game despite having lancebreaker. Additionally, the oni savage and chieftain also tend to have bad accuracy. The only thing that may lift the class up is decent pair up bonuses, and access to shove and deathblow, which can be pretty good skills. Spear Fighter: Mid tier. Really solid class line with access to seal defense for setting up kills. Nothing super special, but they get the job done. The spear master is the better option overall, but Basara's can work well (or even better) if the unit has some affinity for magic. Diviner: Mid tier. Not up to par with the dark mage, but the diviner can hold its own well enough. Birthright Orochi and Revelation Hayato are the primary users of this class and their preferred promotion choice is a bit situational. Basara greatly improves durability while Onmyojis are better support units. Monk: Mid tier. A healing class line with some decent skills and combat capabilities. Great Master is the superior promotion choice for most units as it has better stats and can even get good mileage out of the bolt naginata. Shrine Maiden (the female version of Monk): Low-Mid tier. Priestess isn't doesn't quite match up to the great master, especially since they don't have natural access to the shining bow in Birthright where both classes are most likely to be used. For Sakura in particular I would actually recommend Onmyoji over priestess, though not necessarily for Mitama. Sky Knight: High-Top tier: Between the ability to fly, use staves, and having rally speed Falcon Knights are easily one of the better classes, though more so for its support then its combat abilities. I would only consider promoting to Kinshi Knight if you are playing Revelation since attacking from range is a bit more important and there are more opportunities to snipe enemy fliers out of the sky. Archer: Low-Mid tier. Probably biased, but I feel that archers are pretty decent in this game. Certain blow can be a godsend for certain units/setups and quick draw is very nice to have. As fun as sniper is, Kinshi Knight will is actually the preferred promotion thanks to its ability to fly. And with that, I think I'm finally done! That took a bit longer than I anticipated... now to watch the video.

I wish I could go Butler Effie and Maid Odin. That's all.

Character tier list wen? Seriously though, glad to see Fates content in 2022

Kinshi Knight Mozu is some of the most fun I've had in fire emblem

Man I wish I could make good fe content. Theres still so much love for the series. I think in these games the class you want is very dependent on the characters, but like if we would do a "what if corrin went class x or y" im gonna go with beserker. My recent conquest run was a great success because I could just oneshot ninjas with handaxes while having a good amount of speed and health to be able to frontline stuff, especially with draconic hex. Only thing is that it gets eaten alive by anything magic..

It's true that this has a better branching promotion than FE8, but Gerik probably has the most balanced options of any branched promotion. Hero has better stats and handaxe where Ranger has a whole bunch more utility.

I will not deny that you've made several interesting and fair points regarding classing options. But I don't really care much for it since I am the type of player who likes to give characters their "canon" class promotions and just throw on different skills to improve their power. Thank god for Aptitude being available from visiting other people's castles.

Pump that Fates content into my VEINS

Not the powerpoint presentation 😭😭 Great video though learned some new things

Man i miss the days where Fire Emblem used sprites in overworld

A 50 minute video about a game I can’t play? Sign me up!

Fantastic Video!! I agree with nearly everything you guys said. I would disagree with Zoran that wary fighter has no use. I do agree that it's not required for ch 19 but for a slower unit like Benny who's primary function is to tank against a bunch of units having a skill that nullifies a follow up against mages that could potentially be in a mixed group of enemies increases his survivability tremendously. What I feel about knight class that's its an ok low investment class held back by awful availability. Units like Hinata ,Fuga and Subaki would do fine in that class since wary fighter fixes their frankly bad speed and you could save a speed backpack for someone more useful and it gives them a mounted option to heart seal later on if you feel inclined. But since Corrin is the only way to give a lot units that class which means there never gonna reap its benefits since Corrin has much better talents to chose from. On a side note: Oni Chieftan Hayato is awesome and that everyone should try out at least once since that little kid gets an absurd def boost + growth in conjuction with the horse spirit can make him feel unkillable in Birthright.

This is a Nohr ad isnt it Cav/Great Knight/Paladin Bow Knight Wyvern Lord/Malig Nohr Noble > Hoshido Noble Dark Mage/Sorc/Dark Knight Wolfskin/Wolfssegner I guess Hoshido has Kinshis and Master Ninja, but nothing else in Hoshido even compares lol

For Effie, I like Kinshi Knight and it goes off her existing Lance rank, but I also like swinging by Sniper to pick up Certain Blow and then Partner Sealing to Berserker. Idk if it's worth delaying the Percy paralogue until he can inherit Certain Blow though (probably not). Thoughts?

I’m currently doing a heart seal run and immediately reclassify units soon as I get them, it’s been lot of fun but I’ve been so broke bc I’m using all my gold for the seals, gotta just depend on the items given

I actually think there is a good argument to make for selena promoting to hero over bow knight, and thats if you want to friendship seal her into a wyvern rider. going hero to pick up sol and grind some axe ranks before shifting to wyvern can be a decent play, depending on your scheduling for ranking up friendships.

The song you listed as Ametrine Mountain from Pokemon Reborn was originally GlitchxCity's Pokeball Factory Remix

Old video, but i just wanted to chat about what i enjoy as a nit so meta option, but i really like it nonetheless. Astra Sniper. Mozu!Hisame with Kiragi A+ support got me a really funny machine gun. In revelations specifically, i give him the crescent bow or a killer bow and just watch him delete priority targets while still providing attack stance pair ups for melee units.

As a proud wyvern lord xander user, he good with beastkiller

I made my Mitama a Malig Knight in my recent birthright classic lunatic run Since she S ranked with Kana and haha funny partner seal go brr. I did not realize the power of malig knight Mitama she straight up kicks ASS I could arguably say that that Mitama is better then any Camilla, straight up kills with like 22 STR, 20 mag, 23 SPD. At Malig Knight level 1 Hard carried most of the run tbh

Shit man, I was hoping for some advice on the best base class to start Corrin off in for growths. I know its still the prince class technically, but I always go samurai or mercenary especially considering child options. Any opinions you can share?

ya know, i never see these kinda things on FE fates and all the opinions made me realize. i do a lotta goofy builds for this game

Where do you think the free dlc-Witch Mark and Spotting Glass- fits in the whole thing? I personally think Mark is superior to Glass overall but both have their really good applications. I almost always use my mark on Nyx because it turns her into even more of a glass cannon than she was previously with the insane mobility that the class provides. I believe it offers one of the highest magic nukes in the game if your stats roll well. But then again, Nyx is already one of the best magic nukes in the game to begin with. Otherwise, I just find it really weird that you get a bulky bow tank(?) with Glass. Bows are already not supposed to be a constant pressure on the front line and really are supposed to safely hide just behind your actual tanks but this gives you not only a portable ballista that gets crazy at higher levels (even if it lacks decent range) but some decent bulk to stay in the front line for a turn or so. It just doesn’t make sense for me seeing as until the late game where the starts becoming viable, you have access to much better tank options and it’s still only mediocre at best. I don’t know, just feels weird and unreasonable without access to a sidelong Yumi (which is only available in the Birthright route if I remember correctly) and even then there are still a lot better options. The artillery support is really helpful when enemies get clumped up and that’s about it because even that has friendly fire which can be very detrimental if you have brawly, slow units or you have to commit to a push by starting it with a shot. I don’t know. Maybe I’m not thinking of the right things in this position but it just seems not very worth it.

i tried berserker 100% crit great club odin in rev and it was so much fun

Not gonna hold u I've never used Azama as anything but a Dread Fighter lmao

The only reason I changed Azura's class was when I used the Witch talisman for Warp and changing her back afterwards. Warp is so nice since it means she doesn't have to play catch up to faster units or be carried around like a bag. Edit: For those unknowing: Witch Talisman is a dlc item.

here me out, jakob but in maid suit, now that's the coolest

Kitsune and Nine-tails are classes that allegedly exist (:

Would appreciate another video for DLC classes like Lodestar, etc. :)

Hey, random question about skills, since I can't find an answer elsewhere. If you, for example, take Corrin from Hoshidan/Nohr Noble, and swap them into Swordmaster, will they get the unpromoted Samurai skills? Asking because I'm planning on either going into Nohr Noble, then Swordmaster, or just swapping into Samurai, depending on if I have to actually be a Samurai to get those skills.

Do any of Corrin's second kids actually benefit from staying in the noble classes over their other options? I love the novelty of having, like, dragonstone Ophelia for instance haha

Keaton was a top 5 unit in my first lunatic run

This reminds me of my school presentation

Is there a recommendation on what level to promote in fates? I have an idea in other FE games but in this one I’m not sure. Should you wait until 20, promote earlier if you can, or wait until a certain chapter?

Goated vid. FATES SWEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

never thought about hero xander currently playing through lunatic for the first time might unironically put him into hero give him my two boots and make him an enemy phase beast

I didn’t even know that blacksmith was a class in fates.

Awesome video but the knights correct class skills are not actually in the description lol

I am a stubborn person but for a oboro!Caeldori between spear master and Falco knight because class preferences which would you recommend for revelation? Wouldnt be there for awhile because picking up LND but useful info for gen 2 focused run

I sealed Mozu into an Archer and made her a Kinshi Knight and holy shit I made a fucking demon, she takes on archers right in front of her, her speed gets her hardly hit, and she doubles pretty much every enemy, I recommend it 10/10

You should give yourself a (PINGAS) Promotion!

What about dlc classes??

I think maids and butler are both cool

Also on the ninja promotion, can't ignore the rule of cool that comes with being a MASTER NINJA

I don't understand why Felicia promotes to mercenary instead to a magic class IS want to nerf her 🚬🚬

So what your Opinions on the DLC Classes? Future vids of em? Or none? I just curious on your take.

Can I ask why Yumi users are considered bad in birthright? I realise most of the late game maps are completely open spaces with no terrain, which leaves yumis out in the open. But I was wondering if there was another reason considering they're the strongest weapons on paper