I'm not arm chair I did 16 years ff in the UK, so I do have some knowledge of correct usage of b a.

@@stevebailey6403 Are there many balloon framed dwellings in the UK?

And who did you impress with that insecure and childish comments? What's the matter, can't form an opinion about their tactics so you have to bash people who can?

@@azul8811 Another useless comment from you that makes no point and doesn't apply to this fire.

@@JB91710 Comment? I made no comment. I made an inquiry. And that inquiry was specifically directed to a particular UK Firefighter. Tell me, have you now become the self appointed moderator of what questions are permitted here, even when they do not concern you?

Mark G ...You laughed out loud at that?

lol, they have to be better than they were in the 80's and early 90's. One night i said to a lady "watch, they will put those lines across those wires" and without fail 30 seconds later they blew the transformer then looked at each other like how did that happen. I just laughed and went back to work and said the power will be out a long time and they sent us home. Half the town lost power because of them. Worse was when they started putting the fire out then shut water off to move trucks around. And then there was the 17 year old who couldn''t find the spanner on the truck so he ran across the street and took one off another truck at the station. And this was all for one fire! It was like the Keystone cops fire department version.

noticed that. I guess SOP's allow a white helmet as a substitute for basic safety gear. Also, back in the day as a truckie, I found that a roof ladder over the peak of a steep roof was a lot easier to work off of than trying to grow a couple more feet in height so I could try to stay in contact with the stick.

Some things never change. And obviously nothing has changed since the 80's in Q-town when it comes to the fire department

mike shreiner Sounds like YOU, the one who’d come screaming out of the fire, begging the firefighters to save your Star Wars figurines, are just jealous cause you’ve only got one ball (and that one is showing signs of disappearing also).... Thank GOD your criticism don’t phase them cause if it did, you’d be (AGAIN) in a world-of-hurt.... All you who insult Firefighters, confess to the world... your armchair-keyboard-wussy-pussyness with every insult. You “tell on yourself”...

Thank you for this great assessment KZfaq Fire chief.

From what I could see in this video, these guys extinguished the fire from the inside of the building. IDK, that seems like a success in my book. Is there something I missed?

The lack of SCBA is a problem. You can see thick black smoke pouring out of the surrounding openings, and you don't want to breathe that in. Also, it's good to be breathing from the air pack while ventilating in case things deteriorate (EG: fire gets worse, firefighter falls through roof, etc.) Ultimately, it's a safety issue. Proper use of SCBA and PPE helps ensure everyone goes home.

When I near ANY call in car, I try to find a driveway, at least a block away. ( Early Days of Western Salisbury, when 'late,' that was protocol, and it worked well).

My thought too

Yes. Video posted.

Blakey W Sr ...To vent it...🤔

You are an idiot!!! This is the reason everyone thinks volleys are a joke

That's a Chief who teaches the wrong things. Not a LEADER.

No, leader would be in command, looking after this people and the scene. Not on a ladder. Furthermore, a real leader would be in full PPE.

Not a good idea to follow dumb people.

So leading by the wrong example inadvertently trains his crew wrong. They and he needs to be written up, retrained and micro managed for a lengthy period of time until confidence in his ability to lead right is sustained. Safety of all members is always primary to the call for service

You'd only follow him out of curiosity....

Unreal.

Order that too I was just watching it just now and I don't see no air pack on his back but he's got a mask on his face and don't do a whole lot of good

Russell Davis he wanted to be cool 😂😂

They are supposed to clear any broken glass in case a firefighter has a mayday and may have to escape urgently but safely out of a window without being cut up.

And I might add: To all the firemen/firewomen of Quakertown, Perkasie, Pennsburg, Ottsville and any I may have missed, police and emergency services, with tears in my eyes I thank you with a full heart. You guys and gals are GREAT!

What was the cause of this fire? I hate seeing older homes like this go up. I saw the old barn in the back converted to whatever. So that dates it.

Yes but, the fire should have been under control long before that smoke ignited, so what does fast mean to you?

It was 90 degrees with matching humidity that day. Without being on air, his mask should've been all fogged up. Not sure how he could see anything. Very unsafe practice. If fire would've pushed out of the hole, one breath of that super heated air would've been devastating. Not to mention if the roof failed and he fell through. No survivable air. If you are venting above the fire, always wear full turnout gear and SCBA and be on air. The life you save may be your own!

That will protect your lungs and body from cancer.

Like I said, regardless of conditions, I’m not defending his actions. To commit oneself to any fire ground without being fully prepared is kind of senseless in my opinion. Every firefighter(based on level of training of course) should be ready for reassignment at a moments notice, with particular emphasis toward firefighter safety and survival. If the unexpected occurs, everyone should be able to fill in the blanks in as fast a manner as possible. There’s no reason for a qualified firefighter to be operating without their SCBA on and mask at the ready. But without siting all types of REAL firefighting problems that can arise from such negligence, lets all just be honest and call it what it is. For whatever the reason, over the past few years, it’s become a fad, it’s trendy to mimic the PG County “Boston flat” look including the removal of the eye protection. I know for a fact that in my general area members are told that if they don’t have the appropriate eye protection then where your mask as an alternative. Again, senseless in my opinion but it happens.

To vent for improving inside conditions, searching & interior attack being done

@@katiekane5247 You don't need to vent a self venting fire. It will do exactly what Steven said, it will involve the entire attic. We also place far too much emphasis on ventilation. Going by all that pressurized black smoke, this was a vent limited fire just waiting for some oxygen, and then it would flash. Vertical ventilation would create a perfect flow path and give the fire exactly what it wants. It is true the visibility may improve while in the flow path, but the fire is getting hotter, and it is coming. We need to make sure that before we vertically ventilate, we have applied enough water to transition the fire from vent to fuel limited. Underwriters Laboratories did a great study that you can read online regarding the effects of ventilation.

Steven Phillips ..Thank you,KZfaq fire chief.

And the hole he cut was....not sufficient

When you see black smoke change to lighter, there's water being applied inside.

Bad work ethic which is the number one reason. They just don't give a damn or are to stupid to know how to.

What does that even mean?

kathy Higgins that the plumber might have started the blaze

@@kathyhiggins3836 , um, that there was work being done in the house and the plumber could've started it? You know, with maybe a welding torch or something?

Wolfhound it is July...people do open windows. Suspicious for sure 😤

Like Bruce said it's July and considering the temperature was upper 80s today and high humidity, some people don't have the Fortune to have central air and window mount air conditioners, they do open the windows in their homes. Till you know facts maybe your arm chair quarterbacking should be in your head and not make stupid comments. With that being said, the crews made one hell of a knock down considering the conditions.

@@johnbenamati1330 Don't really agree. Arson? Have no idea but this is the hottest floor of the house and their is no air conditioning at all; I have to wonder if was occupied; they may have the windows open just to vent heat.

@@johnbenamati1330 With that sort of hate I have to wonder if you are a paid firefighter?

@@johnwashburn7423 nope I am a proud volunteer! Just hate stupid people

Because from the top of the window up into the peak of the house heat and gases are trapped and heating up when they get hot enough they can ignite posing a danger to interior attack crews

@@engineco.1494 Good answer for the question. Now, my question is, why bother with ventilation when the roof has already burned through?

No need to go to the roof. Fire already venting through windows and roof.

Vertical ventilation impacts a fire differently than horizontal ventilation does. I would imagine that this is a ballooned framed structure which means the walls have an open void from the cellar right to attic! Great for running utilities, but terrible for fire spread. Despite smoke issuing out of a particular floor, we can't always say with 100% certainty where the fire actually originated in ballooned frame buildings. Very likely this building has "knee walls" on the top floor. If fire gets behind walls in such buildings it's also going right into the ceiling and the f/f have fire above them as well. Those ceilings need to be "pulled" in order for it to be extinguished. It can be very difficult to extinguish attic floor fires in balloon framed buildings without vertical ventilation, as you basically chase the fire around. Things can get quite uncomfortable on those top floors under fire conditions. High heat and low visibility and not knowing exactly where the fire is. Vertical venting at the highest point may improve visibility for the firefighters thereby assisting their search for possible victims. If you can cut the hole over the hallway and stairs all the better! I think these guys are vollies. As far as I can see, they put out the fire from inside the building.. which I consider a success. It's not uncommon for this type of fire to turn out quite differently. Just surf You Tube and you'll see. I certainly wouldn't be too quick to criticize these guys & gals here. They seem like a determined group.

azul8811 thanks my friend great info !!!

The.King.Pin apparently you missed the hit in the rear. No one is talking about the nozzleman. Took a lot of heat up there and stuck with it. Didn’t back down. The roof is on the house yet. No one hurt. Get a fucking life. I want to see you do it.

Mer nope

Who cares?

Well aren't you the special snowflake of the century, he's your participation trophy and cookie.

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