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Firepower: Combat Vehicles

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Today's soldier rides into battle protected by sophisticated infantry combat vehicles. Hop aboard the world's most renowned infantry fighting vehicles, from the half-tracks of WWII to armored personnel carriers, bristling with guns and missiles.
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@meee2014
@meee2014 12 жыл бұрын
"the m113 is built from aircraft quality aluminum which has the strenght of steel but is much lighter" no the fact that its made from aluminum is a weakness not a strenght, aluminum has a very low melting point so one rpg round and it will blow right though
@janegeary6013
@janegeary6013 9 жыл бұрын
What are they talking about, the first APC was British, the Mark IX. It also used empty oil drums to float over rivers under it's own power, making it the first amphibious vehicle as well. Might also want to look up Vickers-Carden-Loyd light tank, T-38/40 light tanks, both of which were amphibious years before Americans.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
You are correct. The mark ix was the first apc.
@chandrachurniyogi8394
@chandrachurniyogi8394 3 жыл бұрын
the FNSS ZAHA Tracked Amphibious Assault Vehicle armed with a 25 MM GAU-23/U rotary cannon & 7.62 X 51 MM HMG is the modern day iteration of the AAV-7!!! the FNSS ZAHA has a top speed of 12 knots in water & can safely stay afloat in sea state 2!!!
@russeltanting6194
@russeltanting6194 Жыл бұрын
Mounted infantry on tanks is one way to do it
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s 12 жыл бұрын
M113 aluminium has been known to stand up to RPG hits better than steel due to the fact that anti-armour RPGs are designed to penetrate steel. Not that it really matters; to make a vehicle RPG-proof would involve making it so heavy that it can't swim. What this means is that for a given weight, aluminium is stronger.
@joeandjoe2
@joeandjoe2 3 жыл бұрын
Strength to weight ratio ?
@demon07nd
@demon07nd 12 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying that it was a bad vehicle, in fact it was a pretty dam good one, it just had a fatal flaw
@LupusAries
@LupusAries 11 жыл бұрын
The Infantryman is especially vulnerable to fly-by-wire attack jets (F-16, AMX and the likes?) Try to find those buggers first. I think the A-10 is a bigger threat, as it is slow enough to actually see them. Remember an F-16 at attack speed is between 300-500 knots, and an infantryman doesn't appear on the radar.
@user-dp4ok9ox5w
@user-dp4ok9ox5w 12 жыл бұрын
One Russian pilot said once that fly-by-wire makes an average pilot good, but not fly-by-wire with a great aircraft will make a good pilot an ACE!
@Stormwern
@Stormwern 12 жыл бұрын
mark targets for the striker!
@LupusAries
@LupusAries 11 жыл бұрын
The fun thing is, the germans pioneered the IFV concept with the HS.30. The russians took it, made a more advanced, more capable and even more reliable design out of it and mass produced it. The BMP itself spawned the Marder, the Bradley and the warrior. Like all military inventions, you can never say who invented what, as they all influenced each other. And of course, since the other side was the enemy, no one had any qualms about stealing inventions.
@meee2014
@meee2014 12 жыл бұрын
or you can do what the russians,koreans and israelis do and put a system like the isreali iron fist, or russian arena, which will protect from any missle or low velocity round
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 12 жыл бұрын
to makes things clear im not a fanboy of any kind to any other vehicle, nor do i dislike vehicles of a certain origin. bofors 40mm used on the cv90 rh 202 20mm used on the marder bushmaster 35 and 50mm are also able to be mounted on the current bradley turret if i remember correctly 2A42 30mm used on the bmp2 as well as the improved version used on the bmp3 25mm ?oerlikon? used on the dardo there are a lot alternatives with same or higher caliber yet higher rof and "throw"
@thomasthetanderloin
@thomasthetanderloin 11 жыл бұрын
the bradleys used ERA plates, which are only the size of a lunch box and is capable of stopping an anti tank shells and anti tank missles
@ERWAN2246
@ERWAN2246 12 жыл бұрын
the VAB is actually still in service, only two infantry regiments are equipped with VBCIs
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
an army that was equipped with obsolete t55 and t62, downgraded t72 with crappy shells and now comes the best, the asad babil tank, protected with soft steel. yeah. a very competetive army :P
@bmbpdk
@bmbpdk 11 жыл бұрын
00:23 aint that the vehicle from one of the Aliens movies? the one with the marines dropping down into that colony?
@SWEBlackwater
@SWEBlackwater 11 жыл бұрын
Way is not the Combat Vehicles 90 (CV90) in this Video.
@TheSpartansElites
@TheSpartansElites 12 жыл бұрын
Atleast you know what you're talking about and know your weapons but remember to consider ammo types and how that affects the gun because some guns can't fire faster because of the type of shell they use will either overheat the gun or break it in most cases but since I don't know much and the types of shells anybody uses i'm not going to assume
@bmbpdk
@bmbpdk 11 жыл бұрын
During my tour in iraq a british sergeant asked me (No shit, he really said that): Sergeant: "Do you know what the best thing is, about your M113?" Me: "No, whats that sir?" Sergeant: "Getting out of it.." Me "Why?" Sergeant "Its noisy, shakens like shit, no AC, almost no protection, and only a .5 cal as weapon" He was used to the british Warriors... The british: "how the hell can you sleep in it?" Us (The Danes): "Sit, lean to a side, close your eyes, voila"
@c4blew
@c4blew 12 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the BMP-1 is always regarded as the first IFV when in fact the german Schuetzenpanzer lang HS.30, which had a 20mm that could be operated from inside the vehicle, was already in service in the german army since 1958! Thats 3 years before the BMP-1 design was even started! Despite the BMP-1 being the much better vehicle (since the HS.30 was junk) I don´t consider it as the first Infantry Fighting Vehicle!
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
should have made myself clearer there. throwing weight for 1 second, not per shell. obviously a 25mm shell carries a more weight and energy per shell. but taking into account the rof of the 20mm is nearly twice as high and therefore increasing the hit propablity. sidenote:my fist comment was directed at the : "murrian tanks and military best" kind of people ;)
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
era CAN NOT stop kinetic penetrators. they can decrease their penetration potential but not stop them. so even if a sabot round with 800mm of penetration looses half of its possible value after era the bradly does NOT offer enough protection against it. similar story about heat protection. a lot of parts arent covered by ERA bricks= no ptrotection there. lets admit the fect that the bradly isnt well protected as it wasnt designed to be protected against modern heat and sabot rounds...
@Shadowofthesoldier
@Shadowofthesoldier 12 жыл бұрын
This is an old video, the wheeled french vehicle is actualy the VBCI (Vehicule Blindé de Combat d'Infanterie ) It's a 8x8 wheeled vehicle with a "similar" turret as Bradley
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 12 жыл бұрын
well the bushmaster can shoot up to 650 rpm but with the problems you named... thats why i dont like it... the whole vehicle was developed due to the arrival of the bmp series. while those were repled by mora capable vehicles over time, the bradley was not and became heavier with every upgrade..thats more fficent than buying new ones but as resulst and combat reports show, not the smartest decison
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 12 жыл бұрын
"otherwise it would be overpriced"..it already is... especially if you compare it to ifv's developed at the same time... there also are a lot of other autocannons with way higher efficency if you take a look at how much "explosive" it brings to the enemy per minute. about the TOW...its not like no other vehicle cant mount those.
@dosFING
@dosFING 12 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the soundtrack is for this series?
@joeandjoe2
@joeandjoe2 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find out ? I hope life is good.
@Something007SC
@Something007SC 12 жыл бұрын
couldnt a enemy combatant shoot the wheels and pop the tires to disable these troop transport vehicles? or am i missing something
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 12 жыл бұрын
bradley with armour protection in one sentence? ...LIE
@demon07nd
@demon07nd 12 жыл бұрын
no its not, you hit it with even a small round in the rear, the fuel tanks go up, burning up the troops and crew inside
@TheSpartansElites
@TheSpartansElites 12 жыл бұрын
have you ever been in one? if not, please continue to tell me about how badly armored the combat vehicle you've never been in is
@TheSpartansElites
@TheSpartansElites 12 жыл бұрын
Well what do you expect... it's an IFV not a tank it's not supposed to be able to survive those or else it would be overpriced and I believe it's well worth the price, having a 25mm cannon is amazing to have on a battlefield with it's power and fire rate alos, the TOW makes the Bradley an efficient anti-tank vehicle, and the Bradley wasn't meant for fighting the Taliban, well nothing truly is because of guerilla warfare, my point here is that it's well worth it it's just not fit for guerilla war
@ryanownsu10
@ryanownsu10 10 жыл бұрын
the bradly reminds me of the bradly type vehicle on battlefield 4 i just wish 1 TOW missile would kill a tank like it would in real life same thing for the tanks one cannon shot should kill a tank not 3-4
@5xthejoy
@5xthejoy 11 жыл бұрын
run flat wheels.
@thenoobfactor
@thenoobfactor 11 жыл бұрын
Just about every IFV is about as well protected.
@TheSpartansElites
@TheSpartansElites 12 жыл бұрын
You also have to remember about all the technology that goes into the Bradley IFV i'm not entirely sure about what's i it but i'd believe it would be close to what an Abrams is like, the autocannon is great and who said you needed HE power in an autocannon? you can have penetrative power also and if wouldn't mind naming some models that are better than the Bradley's cannon, see i'm asking you for proof et's see how this argument turns out!
@dposcuro
@dposcuro 11 жыл бұрын
Regarding the MK 20 Rh 202 vs Bushmaster 25mm? You are utterly misinformed. The MK20 fires a round weighing 108g-134g (APDS-Full caliber) at a muzzle velocity of 1050-1150 m/s. The Bushmaster 25mm fires a round weighing 184g-215g (HEI-API, no APDS information found), at 1100 m/s. It fires heavier ammunition, at the same velocity, which inherently produces more energy. The 25mm is a much harder hitting weapons.
@TexasGrandDad
@TexasGrandDad 11 жыл бұрын
M577/M113 are/were rattle traps. The only plus to the 577 was being able to pop up through the TC hatch.
@muffinman1
@muffinman1 13 жыл бұрын
Should talk about the Russian ones as well..cmon.
@Barman1942
@Barman1942 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff
@Something007SC
@Something007SC 11 жыл бұрын
well what am i missing, cause i want to know
@alabdelrosario
@alabdelrosario 12 жыл бұрын
an IDE can obliterate any vehicles mentioned here.
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
that is based on what? no modern german afv has seen real combat to this day... leopard has seen some combat in afghanistan when used by the canadians and being equipped with mexas. right now the leopard 2a6 is seeing frontline service but again... "Only" gurellia warfare. no tank vs tank. and i also didnt claim the bmp to have goodarmour... while i can say now that the bmp3 with era and arena slapped on it sure does have it
@Mixupmoods
@Mixupmoods 11 жыл бұрын
@ 19.50 looks like RC Cars };-)
@ArmorKingEmir
@ArmorKingEmir 11 жыл бұрын
nope
@Thedogbond
@Thedogbond 12 жыл бұрын
@muffinman1 soviet?
@walsertaler
@walsertaler 11 жыл бұрын
u'r missing something
@joeandjoe2
@joeandjoe2 3 жыл бұрын
What ?
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s 10 жыл бұрын
Fuck me! Truth on the internet. I think imma go hunt unicorns now...
@thenoobfactor
@thenoobfactor 11 жыл бұрын
I never said it was. I just said the bradley is not a crappy vehicle either. The original M2 had some teething problems (though the first version of the marder never even had an ATGM) And despite what you say, I trust ruskie military intelligence far more than i trust you.
@stevewalsh3032
@stevewalsh3032 11 жыл бұрын
You mean Serbian defence of Kosavo
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s 10 жыл бұрын
The Warrior does NOT have the best combat reputation. It's not the worst IFV in the world, but if I remember correctly it has limited firepower, isn't amphibious and protection is an issue. Good examples of IFVs include CV90 and BMP3 Troika
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
Ag3nt0fCha0s you are delusional
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 12 жыл бұрын
havent been in one , have seen enough detailed reports about its awesome protection against: IEDs, mines and rpgs of any age and model...its a hyped overpriced vehicle only dwarfed by the myths about the M1
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s 10 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind that the M113 is an APC while the Warrior is an IFV. That said, the Warrior needs to improve it's firepower; it suffers from the classic British issue of "Ammo costs money so lets restrict how much the soldier can use". This is a false economy as a well trained soldier will use only what's needed and it's worth the ammo cost to keep soldier's alive (although, not in the eyes of Britain's ruling elites, it has to be said).
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
Ag3nt0fCha0s that depends on the version of the m113.
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
apc=/=ifv while i understand low protection for apc's i dont understand why you say an ifv doesnt have to be protected. look at the size of this thing! its tall as a house and you say it doesnt need protection? and good that you mention the warrior... known for being what? a good of bad ifv? yes even the bmp3 offers more protection with its era and arena protection system. the german marder also offers higher protection while being 40 years old! ask the iraqi army...lol :D
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s 10 жыл бұрын
With respect even a 50. cal can take a Bradley. As for armoured APCs, take a look at T55 to APC conversions.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
A .50 bmg can't penetrate a bradly.
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 12 жыл бұрын
now that i think about it...there are worse vehicles in service around the world right now...the warrior for example...with that ridiculus RARDEN...
@floatsomboy
@floatsomboy 9 жыл бұрын
My is this American propaganda watched the first 5 min had to give up. The M3 half track was a late comer the Brit's had the universal carrier the Germans 250/251 half tracks. The BMP was the first fully tracked fully inclosed APC, why the Russians wanted to protect their infantry from NBC contamination on a possible post nuclear war.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
floatsomboy *The American M113 was in service from 1960-present. The Russian BMP was designed between 1961-1965 and in service from 1966-present.*
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
Marder has better protection, bmp3 has better protection. dardo has better protection... want me to keep on going?
@Gegengrupenfuhrur
@Gegengrupenfuhrur 11 жыл бұрын
except the EFV is a piece of shit, if you want to watch BlackTailDefences channel's documentary on it youll see why
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
hmm i feel like keep on going bashing the bradley... the marder 20mm cannon has a higher throwing weight than the bradleys 25mm. the milan has higher penetration than the TOW and is therefore much more capable to defeat those mean soviet tank hordes threatenign the world today. the marder has a lower silluette. even when hull down a turret hit ist lethal to the crew due to the unmanned turret... higher hp/tonne, longer range bla bla bla...yeah man, the marder sure is a crappy IFV :D
@StarFyodperor
@StarFyodperor 8 жыл бұрын
"Serbian aggression in kosovo" ... Which is in Serbia..., and being occupied by druglords of albania... even to this day... Check Your facts...
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
Beatrix Nuada you must be a fucking serb.
@sotemot
@sotemot 11 жыл бұрын
;)
@floatsomboy
@floatsomboy 11 жыл бұрын
Again more American propaganda about how they thought this all out them selfs, balls the french and Germans both where using armoured half tacks way before WW2. and the BMP 1 predated all NATO designs by at lest 5 years. and fully tracked APC where used in WW2 by the commonwealth troops any of the Kangaroos be it an M5 without turret an M7 priest or a turret less Canadian Ram tank. As for the quality of some of the modern American stuff thats questionable cost does not equal protection.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
floatsomboy you haven't done any research on the topic.
@TheSpartansElites
@TheSpartansElites 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, to be honest every country has it's downsides America just likes to by the most complicated and pricy machinery of war there is out there, and that's coming from a war loving patriotic idiot!, anyways it's understandable because even though American weapons are complicated and pricy if used right they can be the most powerful weapons ever, even though that can be for anything really, I personally think the main things the US military has going for it is aircraft even if my beloved F22 died
@xb3ud
@xb3ud 10 жыл бұрын
Sigh. This is so full of misinformation it makes my head hurt. Even the stuff thats correct is so dumbed down it hurts to watch. Ugh. Cool vid if you like brawn over substance but not very useful or intereating.
@Keinlicht
@Keinlicht 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a lot of bs for entertainment's sake
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd
@Nebukadnezarthe2nd 11 жыл бұрын
lol? marder designed and build in the same time... it hasnt been exported but gut the chance to see combat in afghanistan. there it survived IEDs and RPGs... while bradleys and their crews have severe casualties the marder does not. the marder didnt even recieve any ERA and can cope with it... soviets consider the bradley a threat? to bad the USSR is long since gone... the bardley is as overrated as the M1 series... oversized boxes of empty promises... they offer nothing more than others do :D
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