Giants’ Hard Knocks Ep 2 Reaction: Trade up was REAL!

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Anthony and Alex react to the second episode of the Offseason New York Giants Edition of HBO's Hard Knocks.
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@jasonheidt5820
@jasonheidt5820 24 күн бұрын
Great insights on Hard Knocks as usual guys. I am a true believer in Joe Shoen and his abilities to improve our Giants.
@coachdave3420
@coachdave3420 24 күн бұрын
He handled the Saquon situation like he should have handled DJ
@kandyman2705
@kandyman2705 24 күн бұрын
No one should be surprised about Schoen’s stance on Saquon. This regime just doesn’t value the RB position, especially older ones. I happen to agree with Joe’s assessment. Too bad we don’t have the QB to carry the torch. Even though I secretly feel he just might surprise us. Maybe I’m just a cockeyed optimist. lol.
@mattinnj979
@mattinnj979 24 күн бұрын
Schoen will keep us competitive year in and year out. He’s cleanwd out all the DG garbage and is building a young, AFFORDABLE, and talented team that is well coached other than OL and there is promise there QB, CB2 and DT. That’s one draft away with smart FA pickups
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 23 күн бұрын
Yep. We got another year of rebuilding to do. This won’t happen overnight.
@marlymarlle
@marlymarlle 23 күн бұрын
Ep.1 "we're all in on Daniel Jones, we cant pay our RB" Ep.2 " Lets try and get Drake Maye and Hey Saquon give us your word you'll double backafter testing the market" 🤔🤷‍♂️.
@JohnMoog-ug6bk
@JohnMoog-ug6bk 23 күн бұрын
The Saquon outcome is a win win - Giants don’t overvalue the position, Saquon saves his body playing behind a competent O line & not being the whole offense. Now how to get a franchise QB?
@gottabec
@gottabec 24 күн бұрын
The part about Joe asking NE about the 3rd pick means nothing. It only fuels the narrative of those that wanted, or suggested, that the Giants trade up to 3 for Drake Maye. Joe said during a press conference that they would look into trading up and down to see what all the options were. So, this is nothing new and does not confirm that narrative. And Alex, I do agree that DJ needs to be more aggressive. I only hope the o-line and receiver talent will allow so. DJ's development is still in question to me, and I would like to assess it when he's complimented with talent like the other good QBs in the league.
@firesidegiants
@firesidegiants 24 күн бұрын
I respectfully disagree on the top part - I think there was palpable interest. If the Giants move on from DJ after this season we will know they wanted a QB in one of the best classes we’ve seen in awhile. I mean, why wouldn’t they?
@joemann5730
@joemann5730 24 күн бұрын
​@firesidegiants he also asked other teams and said in the first episode that he was interested in trading down. He asked the panthers, bills, etc if they wanted the number 6 pick. He was doing his due diligence. I do though believe if they did trade up, it would be for maye
@anthonylemanski9032
@anthonylemanski9032 24 күн бұрын
I’m in complete agreement with you on this. It’s creating a narrative that is not there.
@gottabec
@gottabec 24 күн бұрын
@@firesidegiants That makes a lot of sense. Who wouldn't want a "shiny new toy" so to speak? I think that's what drives the narrative for some folks as well. Keep up the good videos guys!
@Jason-do4uz
@Jason-do4uz 24 күн бұрын
Guys if the giant's trade up they are drafting a QB doesn't make sense not too
@hotsauce717
@hotsauce717 24 күн бұрын
The giants did not offer Saquon 25 million guaranteed! This is the sticking point incase you missed it. The eagles gave him 26 million guaranteed, it’s a no brainer for Barkley and it’s no hard feelings. I just wished Schoen played hard ball with Daniel Jones just like he did with Saquon.
@miguelcintron7048
@miguelcintron7048 24 күн бұрын
Schoen touched on the fact briefly that if this year falls apart he’s done
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 24 күн бұрын
Why can't we have a team that's competitive? Seems some teams in the NFL are always competitive, even in rebuilding years, like the Steelers, Cowboys and Green Bay. Not the Giants, when they are bad, it's lasts for decades.
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 23 күн бұрын
@@thelakeman5207And yet we still manage to win a Super Bowl a decade. Oh, woe is me….
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 22 күн бұрын
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 - What have they done for us lately? I lived thru those lean years of 1963 to 1986. There's about 6 teams in the NFL that seem to end up in the cellar a lot more than the rest, the Giants being one of them. Why?
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 22 күн бұрын
@@thelakeman5207 Don’t give me that “WhAt HaVe YoU dOnE fOr Me LaTeLy” bullshit. 2011 isn’t all that long ago. You want a drought, go talk to the Cowboys, Redskins, Raiders, Dolphins, Bears, or Jets. Hell, go talk to any of the 12 teams that have never won a Super Bowl. It could always be worse. Rebuilds take a few years. Be patient or so long farewell. Oh, right, PLAYOFF WIN IN 2022.
@ejgonzalez2313
@ejgonzalez2313 23 күн бұрын
Excuses ! Excuses ! a lot of PR talk lol.
@boxingtrav2473
@boxingtrav2473 24 күн бұрын
It's crazy we're acting like 27 years old is old especially when he's your best player who's never had a good oline and no #1 receiver to help out since Odell
@jeffreyworthy5384
@jeffreyworthy5384 24 күн бұрын
27 yrs old at RB isn’t the number you should be worried about after 1200 carries in NFL and 700 in college along with not playing a full NFL schedule since his rookie season those numbers you should be concerned with
@boxingtrav2473
@boxingtrav2473 24 күн бұрын
@@jeffreyworthy5384 Barkley was by far and away the most talented Giant. They let him walk for nothing. Assbackwards thinking. What would this offense look like with Barkley?
@jeffreyworthy5384
@jeffreyworthy5384 24 күн бұрын
@@boxingtrav2473 they will get a comp pick for him next season so at the moment it looks like nothing and signing Saquon a RB that is one of the lowest valued positions would prevented the Giants from be able to sign Burns …….all these yrs with Saquon for how great he was they ain’t win nothing so paying a RB 12.5-13 mil when you have plenty of holes to fill makes no sense and it hasn’t worked the last 5 years so let’s keep doing the same dumb shit and expect to win
@boxingtrav2473
@boxingtrav2473 24 күн бұрын
@jeffreyworthy5384 Was Saquon the problem? No. They failed to build a line, got rid of their number one receiver and made an average QB their franchise QB. Do you know what Barkley will do with a competent team. This will get ugly for the Giants
@cecilmccathern9661
@cecilmccathern9661 24 күн бұрын
If Dak was making $37 Mil Dallas would have signed him already
@ejgonzalez2313
@ejgonzalez2313 23 күн бұрын
Sorry Alex !!! you ARE SO !! WRONG !!
@ejgonzalez2313
@ejgonzalez2313 23 күн бұрын
The Giants could have hit the reset button on the qb position two years ago when they had a chance to franchise tag Jones and be done with Jones after last year, but the Genius that is Joe Shoen decided to give $84M guaranteed which pretty much said eff you Saquon. Giants will go 5-12 BTW.
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 23 күн бұрын
Do you like Bobby Okereke? Because then we couldn’t have afforded Okereke.
@mikedelvalle931
@mikedelvalle931 24 күн бұрын
DJ was much more a gun slinger under Shurmur. I'm not saying he would ever be elite, but Judge and the Clapper ruined him mentally.
@BrutalShoG
@BrutalShoG 23 күн бұрын
DJ got ruined by poor OL play . The amount of hits he's taken is not sustainable for any QB . People think you can just walk off a hit everytime a 300+ bull pounds you to the ground. Last season showed you how quickly he deteriorated after just week 3.
@mikedelvalle931
@mikedelvalle931 23 күн бұрын
@@BrutalShoG Oh I agree the OL played into it as well. But you can't deny their horrible play calling and offensive scheme was dated and didn't fit DJ or anyone anymore.
@theheavyweightchampionofth6862
@theheavyweightchampionofth6862 24 күн бұрын
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......F....SNAKEQUAN the TRAITOR.....WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@user-dx2gf2ei8j
@user-dx2gf2ei8j 24 күн бұрын
Drake Maye might be a Gunslinger at N C, but with the roster DJ had to play with it was like taking a knife to a gun fight.
@Stumben2
@Stumben2 24 күн бұрын
yeah. I mean if our offensive line was even RANKED say 20th there might be some conversation. But when you are ranked DEAD last and this historically bad, I doubt any QB including Mahomes makes it through the season. We wouldn't be the only team starting someone from the practice squad half way through the darn season.
@cecilmccathern9661
@cecilmccathern9661 24 күн бұрын
We ALREADY know DJ is ready so why u gaming this up
@KD_SWAGGER
@KD_SWAGGER 24 күн бұрын
Sounded like a BS conversation between Joe Schoen & Saquon Barkley if you ask me.
@Nick-fc9xy
@Nick-fc9xy 23 күн бұрын
Schoen is the issue. He is Evan Neal of GMs.
@capicu7660
@capicu7660 24 күн бұрын
Schoen didn’t want to overpay Saquon, but bid against himself with DJ. Please stop with that nonsense. 🤦‍♂️
@JohnPArgueta
@JohnPArgueta 23 күн бұрын
How do we actually know that he bid on himself? There was no hard knocks last year right? He could very well have gotten information that that’s what the market for DJ was going to be. He knew more or less what the market was and he gave him an incentive Structured offer that allowed him to get out after two years if he wanted. There was more guarantees to get him to sign the deal. If you honestly think that no one would have offered him any money after his performance two years ago and in the playoffs, then you’re not really looking at it objectively. He didn’t get that much money for a quarterback. Let’s not compare his contract to Saquon because they are two different positions.
@lucaseureka2998
@lucaseureka2998 21 күн бұрын
lol clowns waste of energy
@ggraham852
@ggraham852 24 күн бұрын
Janiel Dones is gone after this season!!!!!! Count ya days draft bust 🤪
@growmiegreenthumb8025
@growmiegreenthumb8025 24 күн бұрын
Giants have zero talent. Best player just went to Philly. Unless Eli brings his voodoo it's already over
@markmatulic9905
@markmatulic9905 24 күн бұрын
At this point I don't believe scheon is the guy
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 23 күн бұрын
It’s been two years. He will most likely get four to do a proper rebuild. Be patient.
@lucienlessard7020
@lucienlessard7020 24 күн бұрын
You DJ haters will never give him credit for anything. No QB could come in with this offensive line and do squat
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