A crappy video cleaning up previous crappy work. Firestone all American 5 tube radio with transistor filled vacuum bulbs
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@JerryEricsson3 жыл бұрын
In 1963 my Godfather/Uncle came home from the Army, he had been stationed over in Hawaii with an Infantry unit, thankfully he got out just before they were shipped over to Vietnam for the beginning of that little skirmish. When he got home, he gave me his Voit diving mask and swim fins because he knew I loved the water, he had used them in the Pacific off the coast of that little island, and a small transistor radio. I had never even heard of such a thing, as new ideas were slow to arrive in our small town in the Dakota's. I used to love that little radio, I would take it to bed with me at night and play it very low, holding it to my ear since we were, at the time, living in a tiny 2 room apartment of sorts, a family of 5 in 2 rooms calls for some sense of quiet after lights out, and it was enforced quite brutishly by my father, who had been a farmer up to that point, and having sold the farm on yearly payments, money was very tight as was tension in the home as we settled into town life after years on our own on the old home place, now but a memory in my lonely mind. Laying awake on that folded out scissors couch, holding that tiny radio to my ear, those squeals and squawks of the distant stations that blasted in after the sun set was such a thrill, hearing music I had never heard before, rock and roll, country hits, and God how I loved that blue grass gospel music. Your videos sure bring those days back, it is simply wonderful to sit here now and enjoy the sounds that played so long ago on a radio now but a memory. Thanks so much for the great entertainment of your videos, I keep going back and re-watching the old ones, and rejoice when a new one comes to the web!
@tough2136 жыл бұрын
that is the strangest repair job I have ever seen . I know people can do great work but I have not seen that before . you do great work and are a man of many trades and enjoy all your videos thank you for sharing this
@randyc81713 жыл бұрын
That is the cleanest radio chassis you have ever had in your videos up to 2020.
@AudioMobil4 жыл бұрын
I never noticed Modern Talking playing on that radio at 37:50...I'm glad it survived this musical torture from Germany! :)
@NorthRiverTV8 жыл бұрын
That radio turned out to be a better performer than i would have predicted. I remember staying at the LAX Marriott on Century in the mid 90's, and sitting out on the balcony of the room with a walkman DX'ing the AM band, 660 KTNN cranked right into SoCal. I'm surprised that Firestone rig was able to even pick it out with 640 not far way. Another good video!
@bluepen613 жыл бұрын
Your rf can driver tool kit reminds me of my watercolor brush set. I like how you preserve the character of the exterior. Many times that image/impression tells its story.
@JerryEricsson4 жыл бұрын
When I was a young man, and serving in the US Army, one of my buddies from High School ran into me at a local bar, where I was downing a few beers and talking about my adventures. He had joined the Fire Department, and all volunteer agency. They had a radio shaped sort of like that one, I don't recall the brand, but they had painted it red, which of course, is the color of the FD. What he wanted was a red bulb to make the dial light up red. Well, at the time I was on leave from The Old Guard, out in the DC area, we did ceremonies and had theatrical lighting as part of our duties. So the next time I came home on leave, I brought him some red jell paper that we used in the spot lights during Torchlight Tattoo, and Spirit of America pageants which we produced for the Washington Elite, and several times a year for the Public. We tore the radio apart and inserted the jell paper behind the glass, it was amazing! I still use different colors of gel paper in my projects to change the color of displays and lights where needed. Hell I even put red on the dash of my old 1963 Ford Econoline van we had converted to a camper van for traveling while i was in the Army, it looked very cool at night and kept my night vision intact much better then the plain dash lights that came in the rig.
@Suddenlyits1960 Жыл бұрын
1957 & 58 Plymouths have the instrument panel and a gauges bathed in a beautiful emerald green light at night. Even the push button transmission selector lights up green at night. I always enjoy night drives. I always wondered why on later models they went back to plain white light again.
@JerryEricsson Жыл бұрын
@@Suddenlyits1960 My daughter gave me a bunch of candy with flowers packed in a replica of a 51 Chevy Pickup. We the candy is long gone as are the flowers but that pickup, well I kept it as I had one just like it for many years. I decided to wire it for lights. I put LED's for headlights, Red LED's for tail lights and a green LED under the dash for dash lights. A flat old phone battery glued under the box gives her power and a slide switch where the bumper hitch shold go controls the power. She looks GREAT when she is powered up!
@stephenwilliams52013 жыл бұрын
Uncle Sam sent me to south eastern signal school ft Gordon. GA. AND got a real good time with radio repair. But all ways rem: safety first. Hot Chassis . Ist nixt gut. a few feet away you could not hear the hum I bet. Tks Fer good show. Kv4li
@JerryEricsson4 жыл бұрын
I don't recall who's video it was, but one of the radio repair guys uses contact cement on speakers to revive them and repair rips. He never puts anything on the cement, just allows it to dry on the speaker. His explanation is that it re-bonds the surface on very old speakers and allows them to once again reproduce all the tones that have gone missing due to aging of the paper. It appears to work very well at bringing back the bass as well as the high notes.
@rEdf1965 жыл бұрын
The Firestone radio would look cool painted in the same green color as that light.
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
there is no "best" AM radio, thank you for opening my eyes to the two methods of AM stereo, and demonstrating the dimensional vs flat~ nowadays there does not have a special switch for stereo, the ole Grundig did not have a switch for stereo~
@willcojak96506 жыл бұрын
Hearing the am radio take me back in time. thanks!
@asbestosfibers13255 жыл бұрын
You've got to wonder how many of these bad old fixes we're a kids first attempt to repair something...
@keithjordan75458 жыл бұрын
Good Job fixing that old radio up. Glad you got it going, sounds pretty good. Interesting, informative video as always.
@justsumguy2u8 жыл бұрын
Great job, I enjoyed this one alot. Whenever I buy a radio, I always cringe when I see stuff like that under the chassis. I was honestly quite shocked that it worked as-is, I expected the pilot light (and maybe the 35Z5) to fizzle. But I've seen worse. I had a radio where someone replaced the output transformer, and epoxied it right to the tops of the 50L6 and 35Z5 tubes.
@stephenwilliams52013 жыл бұрын
Looks like a job for spagetty. Insulation. Where possible. A 80% hum reduction good job.
@Pyridox8 жыл бұрын
That turned out to be a decent radio, after cleaning things up and tweaking. The audio sounds a little better after putting everything back in the chassis. Thanks for the video.
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
AM was the earliest modulation method used for transmitting audio in radio broadcasting. It was developed during the first quarter of the 20th century beginning with Roberto Landell de Moura and Reginald Fessenden's radiotelephone experiments in 1900.[1] This original form of AM is sometimes called double-sideband amplitude modulation (DSBAM), because the standard method produces sidebands on either side of the carrier frequency. Single-sideband modulation uses bandpass filters to eliminate one of the sidebands and possibly the carrier signal, which improves the ratio of message power to total transmission power, reduces power handling requirements of line repeaters, and permits better bandwidth utilization of the transmission medium. *sounds greek to me
@rfburns56018 жыл бұрын
That buzzing may be power line intermodulation. The aerial power lines act as an antenna; they soak up a good bit of RF. Usually where the lines are spliced together (at a transformer or intersection) , one or more of the splices will become somewhat oxidized and act as a rectifier. The amount of rectification on the oxidized surfaces varies with the 60 cycle current. So the mixture of RF and 60 cycle through the same oxidized joint will cause 60 cycle modulated RF to be re-radiated on the line.
@carlrudd18588 жыл бұрын
Interesting witnessing you go thru the deductions and corrections. :)
@dansmith60375 жыл бұрын
Man, I've seen some cobbled up repair work but this one takes the cake! Very sloppy indeed!
@KennethScharf8 жыл бұрын
Those white capacitors look like the ones I once got in a parts kit from Lafayette radio back in the 60's! That heater tap is NOT in the middle! IT's only about 5 volts worth to provide power to the panel lamp. Those tubes could be operated without the lamp, when the lamp is in place the heater is deprived of some power, but it gets hot enough from the remaining 30 volts across the rest of it. Sometimes they have even tied the plate to pin 3 and used the heater as a current limiter for the B+ supply! Guess you'll replace that broken tube socket for the rectifier.
@martinda74466 жыл бұрын
Shango talks about 'J' hooking, which sounds sort of self explanatory. When a chassis had posts or terminals the correct practice was to clean everything then offer up and orient the component - note lead position and lengths- . The lead to be terminated has been chosen and you know where the bend will occur. A pair of long nose round section pliers is used to bend the lead to 180 degrees. Place around the terminal, ensure a snug fit and solder with multicore solder using a clean, wetted iron applying heat to the opposite side of the post. The lead is clipped to length and the joint inspected. That is MIL SPEC. termination circa 1950. I was taught this in 1982! We also learned to lace cable - amazingly that has come in useful! This was the last few years of specialised technical colleges in the UK. A 180 degree 'J' is quite enough and often the idea of having a good mechanical connection is misinterpreted. It does not mean the wire needs to be bolted to a vice or tied in a knot - It means the parts to be soldered need to be firmly held together when the soldering takes place. This ensures a good and reliable joint. Sorry if this is a bit boring. EDIT: I just found out how to -strike through a line- Aha.(start and end with hyphen - no spaces though - -no spaces though- )
@bobtk23528 жыл бұрын
In tuning the IF cans, could you cut back the level of the RF generator? At high level, it's just blasting its way thru the IF strip, making it hard to hear a peak.
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
no static between stations, extraordinary~
@hannonm8 жыл бұрын
oh my heart ached when i saw the Repairs.
@emorris2728 жыл бұрын
At the 36-37 min mark, am I seeing filament light coming through where shango repaired the speaker?. Nice radio!
@scottgibson75344 жыл бұрын
No it is a mounting hole if the speaker was ever put in a cabinet.
@arthureverett82205 жыл бұрын
I worked on my neighbors hybrid Sylvania 19 inch color set. The previous tech just taped the new ashcans (filter capacitors) to the bad filters and didn't disconnect the open bad ashcans. The old ones shorted out blowing the circuit breaker and shorting out the diodes in the power supply. That's the first botch job I had to correct. The TV repair shop.that did the original botch job finally went out of business. My neighbor wanted to stomp on his head!!!!!
@tonyp77795 жыл бұрын
35z5 had a pilot lamp tap at pin 3. there is a reason why its done like that.
@davewm95898 жыл бұрын
nice sounding after fixing the hack.
@OlegKostoglatov8 жыл бұрын
After you posted the last video featuring this set, along with the repair of the cloth covered one, I found a few examples on a certain auction site whom will not be named. It seems that the older versions had the larger square IF cans with the trimmers in the top like one would expect with an octal tubed AC/DC radio (there were some for sale featuring pictures with the back off. Too bad about the crack in the bottom but at least it's easily repaired with epoxy glue and bondo, unlike the ones I saw on that auction site with chunks out of the side.
@gwcoty07156 жыл бұрын
OlegKostoglatov I
@Synthematix8 жыл бұрын
5:25 that would make an excellent star trek sound
@Rainbow__cookie5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@dondesnoo17715 жыл бұрын
Surprised the signal generator ground didn't take out the lights without a iso. Xfmr..a matching toaster would be good 😁
@Rainbow__cookie5 жыл бұрын
I would deSoilder and redo everything from scratch + maybe do some cabel management 😉
@willcojak96506 жыл бұрын
Lov the old radio .
@edwardallan1972 жыл бұрын
I like the renegade pilot light! 😳 I am charmed by the way it shows the starting power surge! And then indicates the warm up is done.😸 Why do you keep trying to break that cheesey solder joint in space? 😮
@dhpbear26 жыл бұрын
3:48 - The previous owner didn't even replace the paper caps!
@Rainbow__cookie5 жыл бұрын
:(
@Pwaak8 жыл бұрын
Good save and very interesting! Point of injection of signal/sweep generators and where to tap/look for the signal, in both tube and transistor types, is a subject that I need more experience to fully understand. As you make your videos, if ever you wish to comment or explain further about this key procedure, it will be very, very much appreciated!
@arthureverett82205 жыл бұрын
I used to use Duco cement or Elmers Glue All to repair tears on speaker cones. Worked for me!!
@abeleballestri6127 жыл бұрын
It was a pity that some H.F. Hum was still present ,but I think that hum is partly coming from the video camera,otherwise it was a good demonstration how to restore and resurrect an old radio with tubes. Thanks very much.
@knarf8028 жыл бұрын
You have a nice "tire radio" there. The botch jobs you can find in these old radio's still surprise me. I think that dial would look pretty good with a NE-2H or IN-3, but I dunno if its worth the effort with that (probably filter yeah) buzz. Its always disappointing to find new caps in an old radio you think is stock even if its not a botch job. Its about the magic!
@mohinderkaur66715 жыл бұрын
The squealing on some stations is due to 455khz harmonics from the diode detector feeding back to input usually around 910 or 1365. shielding of diode detector can eliminate this, A tin can cut to shield diode detector and its circuitary is needed. IF Selectivity issue possibly due to degraded Mica in the base of ktran, maybe best to do the IF transformer surgery and connect external caps
@Hunter-xy6qq8 жыл бұрын
Very impressive video.
@TheFurriestOne7 жыл бұрын
Firestone did radios back when? Fascinating!
@HDXFH8 жыл бұрын
Interesting layout
@Baptack0746 жыл бұрын
Something about that radio It's face reminds me of Admiral Ackbar a Star Wars character
@iamdarkyoshi8 жыл бұрын
wow. I am impressed it worked even a little bit right off the bat. I want to fix my late 30s early 40s halicrafters set. I have all the tubes, knobs, ect but it is missing the dial cord and the speaker/audio output transformer. What will I need to do to get it working? I have a capacitor/inductor/resistor tester with capacitor ESR, so I am fine there, but no signal generators or modulators.
@dhpbear26 жыл бұрын
2:53 - That's the 'cat's whisker' :)
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
this is performance art!~
@Xplasma15 жыл бұрын
"The price of repairs doubles if you tried to fix it yourself and couldn't."
@stevenking29808 жыл бұрын
So was the camera in manual focus? Still a good video. Thanks Shango.
@alynicholls32305 жыл бұрын
i wish i had one of those spiral basket antenna's that's on the back of the backboard. that style of coil form makes great pulse induction metal detector coils when wound with litz wire, i want to strip off the wire so i can make a 3d print file of the coil form.
@edwinrodolfocampossolis88325 жыл бұрын
I, Love this radio :-*
@jimlocke93205 жыл бұрын
Max Robinson has provided an excellent explanation of how the dial lamp circuit works: www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/AA5-1.html Basically, the lamp is in parallel with a 6.3 volt section of the rectifier tube filament. On initial power on, the filaments are cold and draw a lot of current. The lamp is supplied approx. 6.3 volts and lights up normally. As the filaments warm, the resistance drops, the lamp receives less current, and dims. However, the B+ is connected through the lamp and tapped filament section. As the B+ starts to flow (when the rectifier cathode heats up), the lamp receives more current and comes up to full brightness. The circuit works well if the filaments start out cold. However, if the radio is turned off and then right back on, there is a surge of current to charge the electrolytic capacitors. The lamp glows brightly. It and the tapped filament section may burn out. Avoid turning the radio off and immediately back on!
@dhpbear26 жыл бұрын
2:30 - As Dave from EEVBlog would say "That's a bit 'how ya doin'!'" :)
@RODALCO20078 жыл бұрын
What a cheap and nasty way of fitting a dial light. Better to have a proper 120 / 6.3 Volts transformer to supply all 6.3 V filaments in parallel. ( It probably comes down to costs ) Radio works well.
@OlegKostoglatov8 жыл бұрын
+RODALCO2007 Most of the five tube AC/DC sets, sometimes also called All American Fives, had the tube heaters connected in series to add up to the AC power line voltage. The typical layout would have a 50 volt tube, a 35 volt tube, and three 12.6 volt tubes, all in series. They are often called All American Fives because literally every radio manufacturer in the U.S, and in Canada, from 1946 till 1968 made their own version of one. Japan copied the same layout, and the same tube types, but made sure that the heaters would work on 100 volts AC by using a 35 volt tube rather then a 50 volt tube, for export purposes they would put the 50 volt one in. They had series string transformerless sets in Britain and in Europe as well, but those typically had a big wire wound resistor, with various taps, in series with the power line since they had to accommodate a range of different mains voltages, some as low as 110 volts (DC) and others as high as 250 volts AC. However the series string of tube heaters would still add up to 117 or 120 volts. As you say it was all about cost, but the result was a radio with decent performance that anyone could afford.
@RODALCO20078 жыл бұрын
+OlegKostoglatov Many thanks for your very detailed reply.
@paullarson21788 жыл бұрын
+RODALCO2007 Even back when these AA5's were made the copper in a transformer was considered relatively expensive. Depending on which way you orient the mains plug, the chassis can be at 120vac line hot. Of course the whole thing is isolated in an insulated enclosure for safety. Just don't knock one into your bath water.
@OlegKostoglatov8 жыл бұрын
paul larson It really depends on whom made the AA5 and when as to whether they were a true "hot chassis" set, this Firestone is definitely a hot chassis job along with many Zeniths. I have a 1946-47 Fada model 1001 that is a true hot chassis set, one side of the power cord is connected right to to the chassis full time, the other is connected to the power switch and to the heater string thereafter. However many AC/DC sets had both sides of the line isolated or semi isolated from the chassis, they would run separate wiring from socket to socket for common negative. Then, because the tube shields, coils, the IF can shields, and the frame of the tuning cap needed to be grounded, they coupled those to the B- side with a large capacitor like a .2 mf, and a 220,000 resistor, some omitted the resistor though, so those would pass RF frequencies to act as RF shields but block the 60 cycle power line frequencies, as well as DC.
@paullarson21788 жыл бұрын
+OlegKostoglatov Ideally you would want the chassis at line Neutral, and that was the idea with one blade of the US style mains plug being slightly wider. However many of the AA5's I have repaired had the plugs modified to defeat polarization. Many of the GE sets also tied line direct to chassis. No capacitor involved at all. A large value capacitor isn't much of a safety factor for 60hz AC anyway, although I suspect it might limit the peak current some in the case of a short.
@frankmooney72823 жыл бұрын
I have a Hallicrafters S-22r with no factory solder on oscillator coil. Just wire wrapped to connection point. Also a resistor with a dead short wire across it from factory. It works but the resistor cannot be doing anything. Not sure what to do with it.???
@JesseHancock6400ba8 жыл бұрын
ok, Shango. I liked this video alot. I would like to ask what kind of camera you used , cause its great quality.
@shango0668 жыл бұрын
I think it was a flip from costco
@Synthematix8 жыл бұрын
Find somewhere that supplys 9 to 12v dc and use a warm white led strip, far more efficient and will last forever
@badbanano8 жыл бұрын
Why didn't that pull down to next tot the condenser get swapped out?
@randynelson22652 жыл бұрын
That radio looked like someone was trying to train chimpanzees to repair radios. Like a NASA experiment gone wrong.
@godfreypoon51488 жыл бұрын
Fire Stone? ... Fires Tone!
@djspeakerfreak6353 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUR VIDS sorry for the caps im a rl dj
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JeffDeWitt5 жыл бұрын
I know this is a bit late but I think I know why the alignment didn't go well on this radio. I've got a beautiful 1940 Emerson and was looking at the schematic. Under the alignment instructions it says "Always use as weak a test signal as possible when aligning the receiver." You mentioned you signal was VERY strong and I'm thinking it swamped the circuit.
@nor42776 жыл бұрын
Is there a part 3
@brianbloom17993 жыл бұрын
all that wining you did about the radio, and it was a easy fix,
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
rtv black, what is used on differentials does the job~ dries in five minutes~
@sonicdash38188 жыл бұрын
those wire blobs are obvious amateur wire splices, the previous person who was working on that radio had no idea what they were doing and most likely didn't have the right equipment to do what qualified for a good job when it came to said wire work, a proper splice if any, would be a cleaner appearance, that and if It were done right, would be compared to either your work or the work +bandersentv hen it comes to professional repairs
@oregonwinger645 жыл бұрын
I work on quite a few touring bikes, and the cobbled up wiring I constantly see, just continues to amaze me !! I got a Zenith H500 here recently, that had wiring similar to that Firestone, them apparently attempting a power front-end upgrade. Had to redo the whole thing. Had a blown 3V4 tube, too. Prolly plugged in a tube while turned on. A no-no.
@HDXFH8 жыл бұрын
Dial lamp must double as a fuse if something shorts
@MartinSBrown-tp9ji3 жыл бұрын
Shango likes to dial twist for much of the video.
@qwertykeyboard59013 жыл бұрын
I like the other radio better. Cabinet has more character
@jillgates1340 Жыл бұрын
Did you try it first?
@bryantichota35782 жыл бұрын
Firestone made radios?!
@senorverde098 жыл бұрын
Absolute crap job. Good work cleaning that mess up.
@qwertykeyboard59013 жыл бұрын
2:17 oh lordy
@jedk95232 жыл бұрын
i pluged in a old crt tv one day, it blew the breaker box
@arthureverett82205 жыл бұрын
They just hung the ashcans (filter capacitors) any old way. Really sloppy work I would have ran the dial light off a separate small low voltage transformer and connect 1 lead of the transformer to the on off switch
@Synthematix8 жыл бұрын
Hasnt the person who soldered all this heard of heatshrink tubing? ffs that thing was a fire waiting to happen. Nope the japanese caps are very good especially sanyo, its the chinese no name specials that are trash
@rsattahip6 жыл бұрын
Hate working on someone else's mess.
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
mmmm massage power~
@mikegLXIVMM3 жыл бұрын
Remove all resistors, capacitors and wires. Rebuild from schematic.
@XtremeKremaTor8 жыл бұрын
unlike the other videos you have uploaded quality was not looking like 720 for some reason. blurred/smoothed out too much and out of focus.
@hannonm8 жыл бұрын
+Szymon Krasuski its cause he can't see the screen, Remember?
@stevenking29808 жыл бұрын
No actually he bought a new camera. It was probably on manual focus. :)
@jayster.k.wiseguy Жыл бұрын
there is one station that I can get the Giants baseball the A's are on FM but have bought so many damned AM radios, my grandpa's GE model would if in a certain position in the house...all have a certain whoo-wooo woah to the signal, perhaps it's the "superhederodyne" but only the BOSE can get the baseball, and the CCrane~ which is so tightly put together, never goes back after trying to replace the antenna, a penny glued on, but there is nothing to grab onto, so the antenna is a real can of worms on the CCrane and you Need it~ am so disappointed with the battery Hungry CCCrane~ have had three and they are digital, but station at Clearlake,....there are NO stations up here~ attempts to use the signal accelerators failed, apparently there is something weird, cannot drive thru town, the signal is intentionally muddy, it seems~ the BOSE on it's side saves the day, runs hot wondering when it's gonna catch fire~ "Easy-brake, oven" there is no handle and one switches the stations trying to handle it, it has four D cells, and always uses them dead, 'cause the weather-alert drains them~ plugging in just makes the noise appear, and does not recharge the batteries~!